Thanks for this. There is so much guru-ism of various kinds, so much seeking. But to walk as no-one, knowing nothing, is so strongly resisted by the habitual character who wants, more than anything, to know, to comprehend, to be safe in a controlled and familiar life-story. But to be no-one, knowing nothing ... if there were any such thing as a way, or anyone who could walk it, then this surely would be it. Thanks for posting this.
this would mean everyone is enlightened and they just don't know it... knowing that you know nothing is not enlightenment. Its one of the first steps to achieving enlightenment.
@kaifinn when I am awake? I will know? I thought their was no I? First of all I am awake, If the I is an illusion then it is at least an illusion we can agree that we share and enlightenment is a experience because there must be a experiencer to know anything or "see the truth", seeing or knowing anything is a experience that is personal, meaning their is a I. and if the truth cannot be told why are you believing what you read in a book about what someone is telling you?
Thanks for this. There is so much guru-ism of various kinds, so much seeking. But to walk as no-one, knowing nothing, is so strongly resisted by the habitual character who wants, more than anything, to know, to comprehend, to be safe in a controlled and familiar life-story. But to be no-one, knowing nothing ... if there were any such thing as a way, or anyone who could walk it, then this surely would be it. Thanks for posting this.
everest001 1 year ago
@everest001
yes you are right, the seeking and the guru's, the whole spiritual world, the tao and the path, it is all part of the illusion.
just another story unfolding in the truth. wich is THIS.
kaifinn 1 year ago
this would mean everyone is enlightened and they just don't know it... knowing that you know nothing is not enlightenment. Its one of the first steps to achieving enlightenment.
HereTruthIs 1 year ago
@HereTruthIs
there is no everyone, there is no I. you can never achieve enlightenment.
because it is the illusion of you that holds you back.
also there are no steps to enlightenment. that is what they (the unenlightend goeroes) want you to believe.
when you are awake. you will know. before that, you are just playing with words.
how can there steps to enlightment. it has absoluty nothing to do with spirituality or a pad. it is just seeiing what is there.
kaifinn 1 year ago
@kaifinn when I am awake? I will know? I thought their was no I? First of all I am awake, If the I is an illusion then it is at least an illusion we can agree that we share and enlightenment is a experience because there must be a experiencer to know anything or "see the truth", seeing or knowing anything is a experience that is personal, meaning their is a I. and if the truth cannot be told why are you believing what you read in a book about what someone is telling you?
HereTruthIs 1 year ago
@HereTruthIs
before englightenment there was drinking water and eating steak.
after enlightenment there stil is drinking water and eating steak. (zen prove)
meaning there is no difference. it is just looking in a different angle.
enligtenment can never be a experience, they will not last.
sometimes a experience of oneness can occur, but that isn't IT.
and of course you can know. because enlightenment had nothing to do with killing your ego.
it is stil there. it is now of less importance
kaifinn 1 year ago
Interesting ... Thank you for sharing. "Bow"
Susanoo58 1 year ago