yea and you only need to replace batteries every 5 to 6 years at $500 to $1500 per battery! look it up!! lead acid batteries are toxic! i think i will wait for lithium p type batteries, they will be much better
This video was shot in 2001 when a top-of-the-line camera had 2 Megapixel and it's probably using MPEG-1 compression. It also played better than that before it was uploaded and converted by Youtube into Flash.
"today electricity is produced in nuclear plants,do you know it???
so if you are pro nuclear,go ahead and show the world how dumb you are... "
and only 3500gwh are used each year in extracting oil out of the earth not to mention refining so you can put it in your engine or pumping it into your car at the petrol station.
there aint a single nuclear plant in my country, every heard of wind, hydro and solar? electricity can be green petrol can't
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Electricity is not produces in nuclear plants you retard! Those make parts for explosives. Electricity is made in POWER plants. There is a big difference!
@SniperViper1000 tell that to france! 90% of their electricity comes from nuclear power plants! also you get electricity from chemical reaction hence lead acid batteries
@SniperViper1000 in california if you produce more then you use then by law the electric co. pays you the same rate they would normally charge the customer
2. Look at how expensive those damn batteries are.
3. It costs that much because of demand for the product. Raise the demand of the electric car and the batteries will be worth more then your house.
4. Look at how efficent & easy they are. Look at all the jobs they provide.
5. No, it's not. You obviously don't know what electricity is. Because it's provided by a whole bunch of other services including oil, coal & nuclear...
Sweet, Now just gotta deal with the 500k price tag I bet. Car's like this make no sense. Even if it only cost 100k to buy. I could spend 5k and never ever put 95k worth of gas into a gas powered car. Making a gas powered car cheaper.
you talk shit. i've drove about 60.000 km on a car that gave me 16 km/Litre. now i can tell that i've spent about 5k euro on 60.000 km in about 1 year. What about 30-40 years of driving? what's gonna be 150 or 200k ? and what about the planet? What air you kids are going to breath you morron? ppl like you should be shot at sight.what are you a f*king dyno ?
Wrongo. Here is a example. I bought a Kia last year for about 4 grand. It gets 30 miles to the gallon and i have put 12,000 miles on it. At 4 bucks a gallon thats 400 gallons, Or 1600 bucks. Over the course of say 20 years at 10 bucks a gallon, that is 32,000 in just gas. The car in the vid however, While it gets like a mile per 0.01 dollars, Costs upwards of 500,000 dollars. And it only has a service life of about 10 year's. The car in the vid just isn't practical on any level except fuel use.
Now don't get me wrong, The tsport is a great invention and when it is ready for the civilian market, meaning useful for someone who has a family, job, And the like, The it will be a truly wonderful machine. So unless You are going to give every person in the world 500,000 dollars to get one, I am right. As for the planet, The CE vehicle is out of time. Gas vehicles will be phased out within the next 20 year's or so, It is just a question of technology that can outperform them. Which We have.
now i can see. you illuminated me :P at 12.000 miles in one year i can see the light now. i put 60.000 on mine, and are others doing much more. As you know we got ferrari, lamborghini's but most of us can't afford.Don't have to be a 500k tzero, let it be a 5k electric box with 4 weels to drive us arround for free if we charge it using solar power.within 20 years or so may be to late for this planet to recover.have a look on our polar sistem.
60,00 Miles on a car in one year? Do You have to cross state lines to get to work or something? 60,000 Miles into 365 is 164 miles a day, Every day. Oh well, There is a exception to every rule. I use my car when I need to, And not for much else. I use a motorcycle in the summer and get about 55 miles to the gallon. Anyway, My point is that these car's aren't viable yet as a every day vehicle.
Even the 5000 dollar car's You speak of have many problem's. Batteries wear out, Don't hold a charge, Plastic part's, unreliable electric engine, And ton's of other little problem's plague them. In the end it comes down to choice. And I choose the evil I know over the one I don't.
the hell with the car manufacturers. i wish someone starts manufacturing one of these electric cars from his backyard. he will become extremely successful and his company would beat any large car manufacture! i will buy one from him. all my friends would too.
its more efficient to burn fossil fuels in your car rather than in a power station,convert to electric,transform voltage,send down wires,transform again and again,convert to chemical in battery,convert back to electric convert to mechanical,substansial losses on every step = increased emissions
Simply compare the COST of driving an ICE compared to driving an EV, after all fossil fuel is fossil fuel right. An average ICE costs $20-25 per 100km, while an EV with regen costs $1.00 per 100km.
For every $100 spent to fuel an ICE tear up $85 of that as useless heat. An ICE is about as energy efficient as an incandescent light bulb, end of story
@gilessmokey That is assuming youre burnin expensive petrolium in power plants. Mind you a set of solar panels can charge your battaries, for free. And power plants that use fossil fuels aren't as common in north america as they are in other parts of the world. Even though there are some losses in the grid, those transformers are over 90% efficient. And you're forgetting about the losses that occur in combustion engines, most of the chemical energy stored in petroleum is converted into heat.
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Cars are 30% efficient and power plants are 40% efficient. Even if the electric car is near perfect (95%)(which will never happen) it will only be 35% efficient. Why bother?
Highway driving takes like 100hp or 80KW constant. Running at 80KW for an hour to get 100km would end up costing $8 (0.08 per kilowatt hour). Electric cars are pointless until we have fusion for electricity.
Slapping some battery's and an electric motor in a car is easy. Do something useful.
my dad has that Porsche in back. Though the electric car is faster and beeter mileage, i would pick the Porsche because it has a better reputation , has more detail, and im gonna love driving it! I respect the electric car though.
Cool. The 280 mile range would fill all of my local driving needs. My issue is with disposal of batteries and the electricity to recharge them. Generating the electricity would have to be from Green technology to make this a truly clean vehicle. Could solar panels in the car be used to partially recharge them during the day? That could extend the range.
Listen, forget the "recharging is just as bad as using oil/coal" bandwagon.
An EV uses 1/25th the energy an ICE uses, so the same energy and pollution required to drive juts one ICE can power 25 EVs the same distance at the same speed.
Sure, you can have solar panels on the car but unless the car weighs less than 50kg it will never provide enough power to be the primary power source.
Thanks for the additional info. I think EV's are a great idea. I live in a northern state where winters are very cold. Does extreme cold affect them? My town uses NEVs. Do they recharge while you are driving them?
I think we need to get away from the concept of the internal combustion engine. EV's, cars that run on compressed air.
Temps around 0C actually make batts last longer that higher temps, but freezing isn't good for them.
General rule of thumb, if an EV has a DC motor it won't regenerate, if it has an AC motor it does, and regen can extend range by up to 50% so it's a big MUST HAVE!
All petrol ICE cars are 15% energy efficient. Ripping up $85.00 from every hundred spent on fuel is just ridiculous really!
Rule of thumb? My first electric vehicle (search here 4 neurotikart) was DC and had regen as its only braking. Nearly ANY motor can regen, but of course, you need the right controller. It's all in the controller.
Regen won't extend the range *that* much, unless you can be magically teleported to a mountaintop. But it helps, and it's a much more easily controlled braking (anti-skid)
EVs are cheaper to fuel because the electric co produces cheaper electricity. (Economy of scale)
LOL, you call that an EV? You want to have a debate do you? Sure DC can regen, but it requires privative switching to reverse polarity which gets more expensive as power levels rise. AC regen is a simple by-product of lowering the drive frequency below rotor speed. I don't 'invent' the figures I quote, go question AC propulsion if you doubt 50% range extension is real! EV's are cheaper to fuel because they are 85-90% energy efficient (not inc regen) compared to an ICE that is 15% efficient.
It's a vehicle, and it's all electric. That's an EV. :D Sure, it's not a Tesla Roadster - I know that.
I was simply pointing out that regen brakes can be had on nearly any motor.
EVs are still trying to get the range of ICE vehicles. They can't yet. For example, a (1980) VW Rabbit pickup with a diesel engine pretty easily got 500 mile range. Many have been converted to electric, and none get 1/3 of that range. It comes down to battery weight.
EVs aren't quite that efficient. (1/25th? where does that come from?) Don't get me wrong, I like fast EVs, but they're not perfect. They're cheaper to operate because electric energy is generally cheaper than gas. It's much harder, however, to haul around electrical energy. (Batteries vs gas, diesel, alchohol, whatever) That's why EVs don't get the range of ICE vehicles...yet. They tend to be heavy.
1/25th is a comparison of the cost per mile to fuel an ICE Vs an EV based on the quoted ICE mpg and the current cost of fuel. It obviously depends where you are, what you drive and todays oil price. Take it as fact, and EV costs approx $1.00 per 100km. My car with a quoted factory spec of 14 liters per 100k @$1.40 a liters = $19.6 per 100km, that's 1/19.6 right there (a Ferrari uses significantly more). Take that to the UK where fuel is over $2.50 a liters and you see what I mean!
You're equating cost with energy. Yeah, electric *can* be cheaper, but it always takes a certain amount of energy to push 1000kg down the road and through the wind. It can certainly be *cheaper* to do it electrically, but not necessarily easier. It's still much more expensive to build and EV, especially with an AC drive. From there, whether it's cheaper than ICE depends on how long you can drive it on your cheaper fuel. As EVs proliferate, the cost should drop. Let's hope...
Mate, ANYTHING beats burning 85% of the mega cash we all have to spend at the petrol pump to simply get around. I quoted 200wh/km, that's DO-ABLE NOW! A kw/hr of either fuel or electricity is approx the same price, but with an ICE you're flushing most of it out the radiator and exhaust... most people don't even realize this, I know I didn't till recently! How can you argue with reducing costs by 1/25th? LOL Do the maths!
too bad it doesnt look good. amazing technology but the front of the car looks... squeamish. or sad and the tail is dull and big, reminds me of a car from the 80s. i guess for this amazing car, some body designing had to be compromised, for a good reason im sure.
The technology of the electric vehicles is already viable. Just that the electric vehicles are a lot but reliable and they are not damaged as much as those of internal combustion. For the companies it would be a disaster to sell a car to the one that difficultly is damaged some fuse or electric circuit every 10 years. For that reason they continue excluding the technology EV, to maintain the consumer into the auto-parts stores. On the other hand the oil companies, the government and people.
Tzero is currently parked in a wharehouse in San Dimas Ca. Its batteries have died and will take about $15000 to replace. I belive the life span of the last and only Lithium battery pack installed in Tzero was less than 20K miles old. if you factor the battery cost into your $ per mile, the real life cost is about $1 per mile. FACT!!!
They should use the new technology being created by EEStor in Cedar Park, Texas. 500 miles on a 5 minute charge, and tested for a million charges with no sign of degradation (That's 500,000,000 miles). They are also safer and ten times lighter than a conventional battery.
Their PR sounds too good to be true, and as no product has been delivered or demonstrated in public they haven't proved it lives up to their claims. I think a combination of Supercap and Li-ion nano will be the go.
Supercap will never fly. An interesting alternative might be a flywheel to store the energy, as proposed by an old article in Popular Science (or was it Popular Mechanics?) mag. Would be perfect solution for regenerative braking scheme
Think of the entire mass of the vehicle as a 'flywheel' energy storage system.
The energy used to accel the vehicle, minus air and rolling friction, can be extracted and reused again via regeneration, especially active regeneration used as the primary brake system.
A high speed, high mass, low friction flywheel within the vehicle is not practical, gyroscopic effects alone would rule it out.
Only about 15% of the energy from the fuel you put in your tank gets used to move your car down the road or run useful accessories, such as air conditioning. The rest of the energy is lost to engine and driveline inefficiencies and idling. Therefore, the potential to improve fuel efficiency with advanced technologies is enormous. With an Electric Car it costs just $2.00 per 100kms with MUCH more performance than with petrol at $20.00 per 100kms.
Humm nice data TSPORT ... "With an Electric Car it costs just $2.00 per 100kms with MUCH more performance than with petrol at $20.00 per 100kms." Looks like the future could be more Green after all .. Hope we catch the train on time
wonderful machine!! And the one from Tesla Motors also looks great. Man,you're a GENIOUS, you can become the next Henry Ford!! PLEASE succeed!!! Do this for yourself (lots of money), for our Civilization (independence from oil cartels), and for Mother Earth (no pollution).
tsport100: OK you won i dont know of any thing that accellerates faster than a top fueler. But is still amazing that a rollercoaster would have such a speed.
cars accellerate slowly. in japan, theres the dodonpa rollercoaster that reaches 107 mph in just 108 seconds using compressed air. top thrill dragster rollercoaster goes 0-120 mph in 4 seconds (60 mph in 2 seconds) cars=slow, coasters=fast!
If these could go 300 miles on a charge, they mite be onto something.. People that like to travel don't want to have to be down for a couple of hours just to charge up.. Until the technology gets better for the power source, I cant see the general public jumping all over this..
Thanks, It DOES have a 300 mile range and new Nanosafe batteries can be fully charged in 10 mins. GM research estimates most cars are parked 80% of the time anyways, so plenty of time to charge. The only new habit is plugging in the car overnight to charge on off-peak power @ $0.05kw/hr. (Should cost $2.50 to re-fill from empty) The best habit to get rid of is having to pull into a petrol station to get ripped off $80.00 to fill the tank every week. I think people will be all over that.
batteries are really nice, and besides, I think that as soon as your car is popular, the network of BATTERY EXCHANGE STATIONS will emerge (I mean: you go to station, get a fully loaded batt set, pay only the cost of loading and leave your old one)
Why be so smug? Your average race car barely goes 30 laps before pitting to suck down another 100 litres! It's almost a joke how low tech they are, just keep pumping more fuel in till she can't take no more!!!
this tzero is my favourite car in the world . it needs a better video, can we get one uploaded? This should be front page news on youtube not flipping lonelygirl.
have you seen the tesla? The tzero is about less than a second faster, but I think the tesla looks much more well engineered. Look up tesla motors on google.
this video was recorded with an orange
leschampagnes1 5 months ago
they probably filmed it with a hairdryer
juska555 7 months ago
yea and you only need to replace batteries every 5 to 6 years at $500 to $1500 per battery! look it up!! lead acid batteries are toxic! i think i will wait for lithium p type batteries, they will be much better
geminirat60 11 months ago
recorded with hearing aid
konrad12xpl 1 year ago
1 fps, hardly
intelinsideTV 1 year ago
Yak ugly car design. Tesla looks better. But I do like its performance.
throttlelever 2 years ago
nice slideshow?
BlooDish14 2 years ago
I dare you to get a lower frame rate. jk..not really though
pvtryan1234 3 years ago 9
@pvtryan1234 lol
jophierosebayes 7 months ago
great video 1/4 frame per second its great
khronikind 3 years ago 5
This video was shot in 2001 when a top-of-the-line camera had 2 Megapixel and it's probably using MPEG-1 compression. It also played better than that before it was uploaded and converted by Youtube into Flash.
tsport100 3 years ago
"today electricity is produced in nuclear plants,do you know it???
so if you are pro nuclear,go ahead and show the world how dumb you are... "
and only 3500gwh are used each year in extracting oil out of the earth not to mention refining so you can put it in your engine or pumping it into your car at the petrol station.
there aint a single nuclear plant in my country, every heard of wind, hydro and solar? electricity can be green petrol can't
niteryder50 3 years ago
what country would that be
Th2EyA0rEa1MoN2gUs 3 years ago
Electric is better than gas cars! All you old stupid asses need to learn!
1. Look how many moving parts are in a gas car!
2. Look how much servicing is needed over the life of the gas car!
3. Look how much GAS costs!
3. Look how much pollution they give off!
4. Look how heavy they are!
5. Electricity is cheap!
6. Harness SOLAR POWER and it's FREE!!!!!
Can't you get any of this through your thick stupid heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
actiongt3rs 3 years ago 12
today electricity is produced in nuclear plants,do you know it???
so if you are pro nuclear,go ahead and show the world how dumb you are...
beaumec242 3 years ago
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Electricity is not produces in nuclear plants you retard! Those make parts for explosives. Electricity is made in POWER plants. There is a big difference!
ccoasterdesigner 3 years ago
Electricity is made from 4 Elements. Wind, water, solar and ground. Not nuclear Uraninum comes from Nuclear power plants not Electricity.
SniperViper1000 2 years ago
@SniperViper1000 tell that to france! 90% of their electricity comes from nuclear power plants! also you get electricity from chemical reaction hence lead acid batteries
geminirat60 11 months ago
@geminirat60 Little to late, pal. I was young and foolish then. Now I've changed.
SniperViper1000 11 months ago
@SniperViper1000 glad to hear it! go solar!!
geminirat60 11 months ago
Agree with you mate...now try to convince all the people that are selling oil to stop being rich to benefit the other 95% of the world
QuickFolio 2 years ago
You don't need to convince the sellers you convince the buyers....
tsport100 2 years ago 2
You wanan know something is Canada, Ontario you can sell leftover solarpowar you don't need to the goverment for money :)
SniperViper1000 2 years ago
same in the us
bpg2attheh 2 years ago
@SniperViper1000 in california if you produce more then you use then by law the electric co. pays you the same rate they would normally charge the customer
geminirat60 11 months ago
@actiongt3rs that car is fucking ugly btw
womanizerg 1 year ago
@actiongt3rs
1. Look at how many jobs those parts provide.
2. Look at how expensive those damn batteries are.
3. It costs that much because of demand for the product. Raise the demand of the electric car and the batteries will be worth more then your house.
4. Look at how efficent & easy they are. Look at all the jobs they provide.
5. No, it's not. You obviously don't know what electricity is. Because it's provided by a whole bunch of other services including oil, coal & nuclear...
SniperViper1000 11 months ago
@actiongt3rs
6. Solar ain't free unless it's atop of your house. Otherwise it's beyond affordable. You also have to buy the solar panels.
Nice pipe dream, pal.
SniperViper1000 11 months ago
@actiongt3rs ...Yeah I see some points being made, however I'll be waiting for you at the finish line ..HAha I crack myself up!
TheNoisePolluter 9 months ago
Hey GILESSMOKEY!!!
Have you ever hear of SOLAR POWER???
Are you ignorant or just STUPID!!!!!
actiongt3rs 3 years ago
find an Ultima GTR and shut the hell up.
coronapack 3 years ago
\wtf 0fps
marineofuac 3 years ago
Sweet, Now just gotta deal with the 500k price tag I bet. Car's like this make no sense. Even if it only cost 100k to buy. I could spend 5k and never ever put 95k worth of gas into a gas powered car. Making a gas powered car cheaper.
Charagrin 3 years ago
you talk shit. i've drove about 60.000 km on a car that gave me 16 km/Litre. now i can tell that i've spent about 5k euro on 60.000 km in about 1 year. What about 30-40 years of driving? what's gonna be 150 or 200k ? and what about the planet? What air you kids are going to breath you morron? ppl like you should be shot at sight.what are you a f*king dyno ?
mkoo33 3 years ago
Wrongo. Here is a example. I bought a Kia last year for about 4 grand. It gets 30 miles to the gallon and i have put 12,000 miles on it. At 4 bucks a gallon thats 400 gallons, Or 1600 bucks. Over the course of say 20 years at 10 bucks a gallon, that is 32,000 in just gas. The car in the vid however, While it gets like a mile per 0.01 dollars, Costs upwards of 500,000 dollars. And it only has a service life of about 10 year's. The car in the vid just isn't practical on any level except fuel use.
Charagrin 3 years ago
the car in the vid may cost 500k. tesla roadster costs one fifth of that at 109k.
it uses the same lithium batteries.
mrpainintheheinie 3 years ago
So every 10 years or so I would have to buy another for 109k? Pass
Charagrin 3 years ago
no you wouldn't. the battery would be expensive but nowhere near 109k.
popular mechanics reported the cost at 10k.
per current electrice prices, it would cost you one cent per mile going 220 mi,les ona single charge.
mrpainintheheinie 3 years ago
a mass produced li ion battery pack costs roughly 4-12 thousand dollars
slipperypete2011 3 years ago
not to mention the cost will be drastically reduced in time, just like with ALL technology. A CD player used to cost $1000 in the early 1980's.
WNDC 3 years ago 3
Now don't get me wrong, The tsport is a great invention and when it is ready for the civilian market, meaning useful for someone who has a family, job, And the like, The it will be a truly wonderful machine. So unless You are going to give every person in the world 500,000 dollars to get one, I am right. As for the planet, The CE vehicle is out of time. Gas vehicles will be phased out within the next 20 year's or so, It is just a question of technology that can outperform them. Which We have.
Charagrin 3 years ago
now i can see. you illuminated me :P at 12.000 miles in one year i can see the light now. i put 60.000 on mine, and are others doing much more. As you know we got ferrari, lamborghini's but most of us can't afford.Don't have to be a 500k tzero, let it be a 5k electric box with 4 weels to drive us arround for free if we charge it using solar power.within 20 years or so may be to late for this planet to recover.have a look on our polar sistem.
mkoo33 3 years ago
60,00 Miles on a car in one year? Do You have to cross state lines to get to work or something? 60,000 Miles into 365 is 164 miles a day, Every day. Oh well, There is a exception to every rule. I use my car when I need to, And not for much else. I use a motorcycle in the summer and get about 55 miles to the gallon. Anyway, My point is that these car's aren't viable yet as a every day vehicle.
Charagrin 3 years ago
Even the 5000 dollar car's You speak of have many problem's. Batteries wear out, Don't hold a charge, Plastic part's, unreliable electric engine, And ton's of other little problem's plague them. In the end it comes down to choice. And I choose the evil I know over the one I don't.
Charagrin 3 years ago
electric cars have fewer moving parts. they don't need air filters, oil filters, oil changes.
a gas powered car has thousands of moving parts. an electric car like the tesla roadster has just 12. go to tesla motors website.
mrpainintheheinie 3 years ago
Why a huge big investor does not start to put money and produce that a/c motors in large scale?
That´s the most important question.
mauricera 3 years ago
They're putting money in electric car when the price of petroleum reachs 500 % per barrel :D
meongoan1987 3 years ago
looks yummy...i wunna eat it
tommyboy123454 3 years ago
Top speed? Range? Charge time?
piecartbox 3 years ago
*Top speed 110 mph with only 1 gear,
*300 mile range on $5.00 worth of electricity,
*10 mins to 4 hours. Charge time depends on what batteries you run how depleted the batts are and the current capacity of your power outlet.
tsport100 3 years ago
WE NEED TO BUY ONE SAVE THE PLANET.
llojaw 3 years ago
I WANT ONE .
llojaw 3 years ago
The electric car looks like shit,porsche should build a electric car styled after a 911,they sell a ton,plus it would be environmently friendly!
nfsjunkies09 3 years ago
the hell with the car manufacturers. i wish someone starts manufacturing one of these electric cars from his backyard. he will become extremely successful and his company would beat any large car manufacture! i will buy one from him. all my friends would too.
BaaEnsaaf 3 years ago
so how do I get one ?? I would also be happy to get a conversation kit for a gas car
Hellaciousoutlaw 3 years ago
compare an electric motors efficency to a gas engine's efficency and then you'll see the light buddy.
nick02 3 years ago
electric motors are the most efficent cars out there.
-KEVIN-
kevinf26 3 years ago
Electic motors are much more efficent then the combustion engine.
txgiorgi 3 years ago
its more efficient to burn fossil fuels in your car rather than in a power station,convert to electric,transform voltage,send down wires,transform again and again,convert to chemical in battery,convert back to electric convert to mechanical,substansial losses on every step = increased emissions
gilessmokey 3 years ago
Simply compare the COST of driving an ICE compared to driving an EV, after all fossil fuel is fossil fuel right. An average ICE costs $20-25 per 100km, while an EV with regen costs $1.00 per 100km.
For every $100 spent to fuel an ICE tear up $85 of that as useless heat. An ICE is about as energy efficient as an incandescent light bulb, end of story
tsport100 3 years ago
@gilessmokey That is assuming youre burnin expensive petrolium in power plants. Mind you a set of solar panels can charge your battaries, for free. And power plants that use fossil fuels aren't as common in north america as they are in other parts of the world. Even though there are some losses in the grid, those transformers are over 90% efficient. And you're forgetting about the losses that occur in combustion engines, most of the chemical energy stored in petroleum is converted into heat.
Blodslav 1 year ago
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Cars are 30% efficient and power plants are 40% efficient. Even if the electric car is near perfect (95%)(which will never happen) it will only be 35% efficient. Why bother?
Highway driving takes like 100hp or 80KW constant. Running at 80KW for an hour to get 100km would end up costing $8 (0.08 per kilowatt hour). Electric cars are pointless until we have fusion for electricity.
Slapping some battery's and an electric motor in a car is easy. Do something useful.
masteropie001 3 years ago
Judging by comments on you're profile page you're just looking to argue
1) ICE cars are only 15% efficient, you haven't included transmission losses.
2) EVs have regen that can extend range by 50%, ICEs have nothing comparable.
3) Your argument is based on ALL power being generated by coal... How ridiculous. 20% of US energy is Nuclear for a start!
4) EVs are rated at watt hour per mile. This EV uses 165wh/mi which is 103wh/km. So it uses 10.3kw/hr per 100km @ $0.08kw/h =
$0.82 PER 100KM!
tsport100 3 years ago
when you claim 90 or 95%efficiency you have not included battery losses.
gilessmokey 3 years ago
these cars are fast as hell but the headlights are just plain ugly. I'd buy one after it gets a facelift.
KenMacMillan 3 years ago
my dad has that Porsche in back. Though the electric car is faster and beeter mileage, i would pick the Porsche because it has a better reputation , has more detail, and im gonna love driving it! I respect the electric car though.
nocomment33 3 years ago
why can't electric cars look like real cars!!
The bumper is not detailed enough ;(
nocomment33 3 years ago
Check this one out.
watch?v=hOl_1S10jTk
There are cool looking electric cars, the problem is price.
KenMacMillan 3 years ago
Cool. The 280 mile range would fill all of my local driving needs. My issue is with disposal of batteries and the electricity to recharge them. Generating the electricity would have to be from Green technology to make this a truly clean vehicle. Could solar panels in the car be used to partially recharge them during the day? That could extend the range.
AXESMI 4 years ago
Listen, forget the "recharging is just as bad as using oil/coal" bandwagon.
An EV uses 1/25th the energy an ICE uses, so the same energy and pollution required to drive juts one ICE can power 25 EVs the same distance at the same speed.
Sure, you can have solar panels on the car but unless the car weighs less than 50kg it will never provide enough power to be the primary power source.
tsport100 4 years ago
The counterbandwagon to which is the fact that regen. braking and no idle energy makes EVs way more efficient.
cyborgtroy 4 years ago
Thanks for the additional info. I think EV's are a great idea. I live in a northern state where winters are very cold. Does extreme cold affect them? My town uses NEVs. Do they recharge while you are driving them?
I think we need to get away from the concept of the internal combustion engine. EV's, cars that run on compressed air.
AXESMI 4 years ago
Temps around 0C actually make batts last longer that higher temps, but freezing isn't good for them.
General rule of thumb, if an EV has a DC motor it won't regenerate, if it has an AC motor it does, and regen can extend range by up to 50% so it's a big MUST HAVE!
All petrol ICE cars are 15% energy efficient. Ripping up $85.00 from every hundred spent on fuel is just ridiculous really!
tsport100 4 years ago
Rule of thumb? My first electric vehicle (search here 4 neurotikart) was DC and had regen as its only braking. Nearly ANY motor can regen, but of course, you need the right controller. It's all in the controller.
Regen won't extend the range *that* much, unless you can be magically teleported to a mountaintop. But it helps, and it's a much more easily controlled braking (anti-skid)
EVs are cheaper to fuel because the electric co produces cheaper electricity. (Economy of scale)
wires99 3 years ago
LOL, you call that an EV? You want to have a debate do you? Sure DC can regen, but it requires privative switching to reverse polarity which gets more expensive as power levels rise. AC regen is a simple by-product of lowering the drive frequency below rotor speed. I don't 'invent' the figures I quote, go question AC propulsion if you doubt 50% range extension is real! EV's are cheaper to fuel because they are 85-90% energy efficient (not inc regen) compared to an ICE that is 15% efficient.
tsport100 3 years ago
It's a vehicle, and it's all electric. That's an EV. :D Sure, it's not a Tesla Roadster - I know that.
I was simply pointing out that regen brakes can be had on nearly any motor.
EVs are still trying to get the range of ICE vehicles. They can't yet. For example, a (1980) VW Rabbit pickup with a diesel engine pretty easily got 500 mile range. Many have been converted to electric, and none get 1/3 of that range. It comes down to battery weight.
wires99 3 years ago
EVs aren't quite that efficient. (1/25th? where does that come from?) Don't get me wrong, I like fast EVs, but they're not perfect. They're cheaper to operate because electric energy is generally cheaper than gas. It's much harder, however, to haul around electrical energy. (Batteries vs gas, diesel, alchohol, whatever) That's why EVs don't get the range of ICE vehicles...yet. They tend to be heavy.
We're not there yet, but we're getting there.
wires99 3 years ago
1/25th is a comparison of the cost per mile to fuel an ICE Vs an EV based on the quoted ICE mpg and the current cost of fuel. It obviously depends where you are, what you drive and todays oil price. Take it as fact, and EV costs approx $1.00 per 100km. My car with a quoted factory spec of 14 liters per 100k @$1.40 a liters = $19.6 per 100km, that's 1/19.6 right there (a Ferrari uses significantly more). Take that to the UK where fuel is over $2.50 a liters and you see what I mean!
tsport100 3 years ago
You're equating cost with energy. Yeah, electric *can* be cheaper, but it always takes a certain amount of energy to push 1000kg down the road and through the wind. It can certainly be *cheaper* to do it electrically, but not necessarily easier. It's still much more expensive to build and EV, especially with an AC drive. From there, whether it's cheaper than ICE depends on how long you can drive it on your cheaper fuel. As EVs proliferate, the cost should drop. Let's hope...
wires99 3 years ago
Mate, ANYTHING beats burning 85% of the mega cash we all have to spend at the petrol pump to simply get around. I quoted 200wh/km, that's DO-ABLE NOW! A kw/hr of either fuel or electricity is approx the same price, but with an ICE you're flushing most of it out the radiator and exhaust... most people don't even realize this, I know I didn't till recently! How can you argue with reducing costs by 1/25th? LOL Do the maths!
tsport100 3 years ago
its quick but my god its ugly
wolfmother4eva 4 years ago
too bad it doesnt look good. amazing technology but the front of the car looks... squeamish. or sad and the tail is dull and big, reminds me of a car from the 80s. i guess for this amazing car, some body designing had to be compromised, for a good reason im sure.
dav08zxc 4 years ago
The car is originally a kitcar designed to run a 1100cc roadbike engine called a Sportech made by Piontek. See funcar,com
tsport100 4 years ago
I gotta agree, this is no Tesla
mre2u2 4 years ago
Why only the slide show? You think after all the effort that went into this car, you could create a video so we could see it in action.
JohnPaul2006 4 years ago 2
See some other tzero videos on my channel. (p.s. it's a Youtube conversion problem, the original uploaded video was fine)
tsport100 4 years ago
The technology of the electric vehicles is already viable. Just that the electric vehicles are a lot but reliable and they are not damaged as much as those of internal combustion. For the companies it would be a disaster to sell a car to the one that difficultly is damaged some fuse or electric circuit every 10 years. For that reason they continue excluding the technology EV, to maintain the consumer into the auto-parts stores. On the other hand the oil companies, the government and people.
AZURA888 4 years ago 2
Tzero is currently parked in a wharehouse in San Dimas Ca. Its batteries have died and will take about $15000 to replace. I belive the life span of the last and only Lithium battery pack installed in Tzero was less than 20K miles old. if you factor the battery cost into your $ per mile, the real life cost is about $1 per mile. FACT!!!
ls1andvortec 4 years ago
FACT... It was a 50Kw/h pack which enough to do 500kms... more than is required! Average battery pack size is less than 20Kw/h
FACT... These batteries were designed for small drain devices like laptops, not for 165Kw cars that go 0-60 in 3 sec.
FACT... There are ALREADY ON THE MARKET nano tech batteries that'll do 15,000 recharge cycles and last over 40 years... designed FOR EVs!
Thanks anyways!
tsport100 4 years ago
Can you tell me more about these batteries?, Are you talking about carbon nanotubes?
jimmyjoeh2o 4 years ago
For more info look up A123 Systems or Altairnano.
tsport100 4 years ago
They should use the new technology being created by EEStor in Cedar Park, Texas. 500 miles on a 5 minute charge, and tested for a million charges with no sign of degradation (That's 500,000,000 miles). They are also safer and ten times lighter than a conventional battery.
shambala14 4 years ago
Their PR sounds too good to be true, and as no product has been delivered or demonstrated in public they haven't proved it lives up to their claims. I think a combination of Supercap and Li-ion nano will be the go.
tsport100 4 years ago
Supercap will never fly. An interesting alternative might be a flywheel to store the energy, as proposed by an old article in Popular Science (or was it Popular Mechanics?) mag. Would be perfect solution for regenerative braking scheme
mre2u2 4 years ago
Think of the entire mass of the vehicle as a 'flywheel' energy storage system.
The energy used to accel the vehicle, minus air and rolling friction, can be extracted and reused again via regeneration, especially active regeneration used as the primary brake system.
A high speed, high mass, low friction flywheel within the vehicle is not practical, gyroscopic effects alone would rule it out.
tsport100 4 years ago
Only about 15% of the energy from the fuel you put in your tank gets used to move your car down the road or run useful accessories, such as air conditioning. The rest of the energy is lost to engine and driveline inefficiencies and idling. Therefore, the potential to improve fuel efficiency with advanced technologies is enormous. With an Electric Car it costs just $2.00 per 100kms with MUCH more performance than with petrol at $20.00 per 100kms.
tsport100 4 years ago
Humm nice data TSPORT ... "With an Electric Car it costs just $2.00 per 100kms with MUCH more performance than with petrol at $20.00 per 100kms." Looks like the future could be more Green after all .. Hope we catch the train on time
Thanks
silvioapent 4 years ago
wonderful machine!! And the one from Tesla Motors also looks great. Man,you're a GENIOUS, you can become the next Henry Ford!! PLEASE succeed!!! Do this for yourself (lots of money), for our Civilization (independence from oil cartels), and for Mother Earth (no pollution).
OldWaysFollower 4 years ago
now make it float!!!
jaredmease 4 years ago
tsport100: OK you won i dont know of any thing that accellerates faster than a top fueler. But is still amazing that a rollercoaster would have such a speed.
Mamba205 4 years ago
cars accellerate slowly. in japan, theres the dodonpa rollercoaster that reaches 107 mph in just 108 seconds using compressed air. top thrill dragster rollercoaster goes 0-120 mph in 4 seconds (60 mph in 2 seconds) cars=slow, coasters=fast!
Mamba205 4 years ago
Yeah mate, and they use 4000Hp to do it...
A top fueler (the REAL one) does 0-100 Mph in 0.8 sec, lets see your roller coaster carry it's own power source and beat that! LOL
tsport100 4 years ago
I've actually seen a T-Zero parked a long time ago - a few years. It had that little gas engine in tow to extend range.
Awesome car.
geniegogo 4 years ago
Fastest street legal Electric car 0 - 60 mph in 3.6 sec - nonsence theres an eletric version of the ariel atom - 0 to 60 on that is 3.06
littleshite 4 years ago
See my other videos for the X1
tsport100 4 years ago
cost of one?
street legal?
DdgeShelby 4 years ago
proto-type = not for sale!
Road registered = street legal!
tsport100 4 years ago
what does a T-Zero cost and is it street legal?
DdgeShelby 4 years ago
It is road registered but only 3 proto-types were built. The Tesla is based on the tzero as is the Wrightspeed X1 and Venturi Fetish.
tsport100 4 years ago
p.s. The T-zero looks like a cross between a porsche 914 and a Lotus in some aspects, definatly a cool looking vehicle..
DdgeShelby 4 years ago
If these could go 300 miles on a charge, they mite be onto something.. People that like to travel don't want to have to be down for a couple of hours just to charge up.. Until the technology gets better for the power source, I cant see the general public jumping all over this..
DdgeShelby 4 years ago
Thanks, It DOES have a 300 mile range and new Nanosafe batteries can be fully charged in 10 mins. GM research estimates most cars are parked 80% of the time anyways, so plenty of time to charge. The only new habit is plugging in the car overnight to charge on off-peak power @ $0.05kw/hr. (Should cost $2.50 to re-fill from empty) The best habit to get rid of is having to pull into a petrol station to get ripped off $80.00 to fill the tank every week. I think people will be all over that.
tsport100 4 years ago
batteries are really nice, and besides, I think that as soon as your car is popular, the network of BATTERY EXCHANGE STATIONS will emerge (I mean: you go to station, get a fully loaded batt set, pay only the cost of loading and leave your old one)
OldWaysFollower 4 years ago
Let the arabs and other terrorist nations choke on their toxic goo. Go electric! Gotta get the car cost down first, then look out ICE dinosaur
mre2u2 4 years ago 2
TZERO IS VERY FAST AND COMPACT
blazerblast 4 years ago
she'd loose a le mans! nice idea though
100MPG 4 years ago
Why be so smug? Your average race car barely goes 30 laps before pitting to suck down another 100 litres! It's almost a joke how low tech they are, just keep pumping more fuel in till she can't take no more!!!
tsport100 4 years ago
Electric is instant tourqe.
drsnk 4 years ago
why not race a porsche made the same year this Tzero was made to make the race fair and even?
CeeStyleDj 4 years ago
Fair and even? The Porsche has 4 wheel drive and it's raining!!!
If you want to see the same EV set-up blow off a 600bhp Porsche Carerra GT see my other videos.
tsport100 4 years ago
I wish this were a production car, I cannot wait to get my hands on an EV!
thesolo 4 years ago
The Tzero is your favourite car fusionfreq? I'm more of an EV-1 and Tesla Kind of guy.
DeLorean4 4 years ago
this tzero is my favourite car in the world . it needs a better video, can we get one uploaded? This should be front page news on youtube not flipping lonelygirl.
fusionfreq 4 years ago
I have 4 other tzero videos on You Tube.
tsport100 4 years ago
have you seen the tesla? The tzero is about less than a second faster, but I think the tesla looks much more well engineered. Look up tesla motors on google.
mrquicky 4 years ago
The Tesla is basically a production version of the Tzero.
tsport100 4 years ago
its a shame this is so painfully low quality...looks like its really interesting.
deltasleep 4 years ago
Seems YouTube has some quality issues when converting some .mov format.
tsport100 4 years ago