@fireblaze82 She said "Prochaine Station: Namur". It's the Green Line lady's voice, but saying the stations on the Orange Line! The STM thought ahead and knew they would eventually assign an MR63 model train to the Orange Line which is line that almost always uses the MR73 model.
@fireblaze82 The new trains are going to be made even thinner, and lighter with newer products. I don't know if it means safer though. I like MR-73's, but I prefer MR-63's.
@MysticMTL I know,you like Jeumonts.But I like the 042,so fun to hear!Plus,when it leaves a station,you could actually feel the electricity doing the job :D
@yaumatei1994 It used to be so nice, and the vandalism really only started in the last 10 years. Because there was a train that was out of service in the late 1990's for a few years and when it came back into service around 2005 it looked like a brand new train because it had no scratches or graffiti in it! Since 2007 they have added a few measures to prevent damage, with scratch proof plastic, and graffiti proof windows. It won't work overnight, but it's a start.
@franki3Ru550 I think this was recorded during the afternoon rush hour, and people were tired as they rode the train home. The STM is in the process of changing all of the lights in the trains to make people more awake and attentive, and less tired and depressed.
The only way I can differentiate between the green and orange lines is by the announcement lady's voice... on the green line , her voice is MUCH lower pitch, much slower and more enunciated..I like her pronunciation more.. only trouble is that she sometimes sounds like she's having one of those days where your voice is a little hoarse whebn you wake up lol.. The orange line lady is much higher-pitched and feminie-sounding..plus she talks faster..
@ammarios If you ride a Green Line train on the Orange Line, you'll hear the stations announced, but by the other voice. The two names of the station announcers iirc are, are Judith Ouilmet and the other is Michelle Deslauriers.
True. But i'm not sure if they even made mr-08s yet. They look as if they're from the future or something like that. I havent seen one in reallity yet. They're too "BRAND NEW" if you ask me.
@SuperXpress2 The contract isn't even signed, and it will take about 4 years to see the first trains arrive, once they start work on them. But so far everything is on hold it seems.
@MrZackattack2010 I think this is the same thinking that the STM was using when they originally ordered the new MR08's, but companies around the world took them to court and won their right to fight for a bidding process, which takes so much longer, and in the end it will be Bombardier that makes our trains.
@MysticMTL i say give it to Bombardier why this country, this province trusts them, they make beautiful stuff, they can provide hundreds of new jobs also i believe some time ago a poll went out most people want to give it to them anyways
@SuperXpress2 Exactly! Back in the 1970's it was the other way around and there were MR73's on the green line and MR63's on the Orange Line. In the future the Green Line will have the MR73's and the Orange Line will have the MR08's, (if an order is ever made). They still have MR63's occasionally on the Orange Line when they are missing trains, since there appears to be a maintenance shortage now, and they have more MR63's than MR73's, which is why they use them on the Yellow Line now too.
Nothing is confirmed yet. Every time they select the metro design and builder, someone else takes them to court, so right now we're still at the drawing board process. AC was an option but I'm not sure if it will be in the final design. It could be too expensive and generate too much heat to be worthwhile to them, so we might just have to endure the heat underground for another 40 years.
@HiddingInTheCloset If the contract gets accepted, they will replace all of the metro cars in the next 10 years. But they keep having setbacks by different companies fighting to get the contract to build the new metro cars. So we'll have atleast another 5-7 years of MR63s, and possibly 10-12 years for the MR73s. The MR08's could arrive as soon as 2015.
We have a unique subway system with rubber tires, which are quiet and can climb high inclines, unlike steel tires which are louder (even if newer ones are quieter, the people think of steel as loud and the people who live above the subway tunnels will fight it). They would need to replace the entire network all at once to the new steel tire standard, and I'm not that confident in the quality of Chinese metro cars, if their metro cars are the same quality as everything else that comes from China.
At 1:01 I heard the Ms. Green Line / Ms. MR-63 say "Prochaine station Namur". So I guess either it's automatic text-to-speech or the lady recorded every station on the network? I always wondered how they did the announcements...
Yeah, when they recorded her voice, they had in mind that the MR63s would be needed on the Orange Line while the MR73s were being rebuilt. They even have the Laval Stations programmed in, which the MR73s don't even have!
But then, I wonder, why did they they pick another person to record the Green line? Because if I remember correctly, the new (and current) recording of the MR-73s came about the same time as the first (and current) recording of the MR-63 (somewhere in 2003-2004?). Too bad we don't have any vids of the old days (with the old muffled MR73 lady, and the "announce-if-you-want-to" MR63 scheme.
Actually, MR73s already have Laval programmed for a long time now, if that's what you meant ;) lol.
Yeah, sometimes I hear them turn off the automatic announcer on the green line, especially during the recent labour dispute. Ok, they're programmed. I don't go too often to Laval, and when I went a few weeks ago they had no station mentions at all, so I just assumed that they weren't programmed in yet.
Now it is a text-to-speech. but originally it was a recording. Many station name are still with the original voice of the lady. We can not differentiate, the Vocal synthetisis is a reproduction of the voice of the lady who made the recordings.
@tony0964 It was a lady and yes, she recorded every single station name. Her name is Judith Ouimet (look up a youtube video titiled "Judith Ouimet-Berri UQAM").. I read a long article about her describing what the process was like.. She said they made her pronounce them all MANY MANY times, with different tones and different pronunciations... she said it was a VERY long process .. and apparently they also asked her to make sure that she used a standard EU French accent..I love her voice
@yaumatei1994 Ihe mid 1990's they added completely automated announcements in the MR73's, and around 2002 we saw the semi-automated announcements added to the MR63's. On MR73's the train announces based on a relay on the tracks and MR63's Operator has to manually select the train direction and which stop to start at, and more or less presses PLAY on the recordings, so if the train stops in mid tunnel, the train will assume that the train has arrived as the station and announce the next station.
I'm riding on a train that doesn't belong on this particular metro line, but they're using these older trains temporarily on this line while they renovate the newer trains, so it's a pretty rare sight to see, and probably won't see this ever happen again in the future.
I always wondered what happened if you rode the subway all the way to the end of the line, anybody know? Do you just turn around and keep on riding or do they ask you to vacate the car?
Soundwise, MR63's have a higher pitch sound, while MR73's run with a deeper rich sound. And MR73's always start with 3 sequential notes, and only 2 prototype MR63's start with similar notes. Interiorwise, the MR63's have grey walls and white with speckled black seats, and the MR73's either have orange with white seats, or (new remodels) have dark blue seats and brown walls.
does anyone look at you weird or like stare at you when you take videos of metro's and stuff? im facinated by montreals transportation system and im hoping to work there in a few years (right now im 16) but when i take a video or something people look at me like im some lunatic voyeur lol
Yeah, I kind of get that impression when videotaping or photographing in the metro or on the bus. I also have had a few encounters with metro security and bus supervisors, but I've managed to explain my way out of any trouble.
I almost find it office that you could have run into trouble for that. They wouldn't have bothered you if you have CBC sticker on the camera. That's BS. This post-9/11 world is a piece of crap. I want out ;P
I agree. Before these issues of 9/11, we used to be allowed to chat with the driver while he was driving and he left the door open for us, and we used to be able to visit the metro/bus garages without any problems. Now so much has changed, it's really a shame...
I now live in Toronto, and I remember when I was a kid in the 80's this is how it was. MR-63s were on the Orange and MR-73s were on the Green. In the late 80's I believe, they swapped the lines. But it's funny how MTL assigns trains to run on a specific line. In TO, you see H-5s and T-1 trains on all lines. They dont have any specific assignment.
It has something to do with the MR73's are more capable of climbing the higher inclines on the Orange Line, as well the MR73's like to return unused power to the tracks, while the MR63's just disperse it as heat. Then there are the reasons that some STM maintenance have stated, the MR63's and MR73's don't get along with each other while they're on the same line.
It's more a question of reliability. The MR63's and the MR73's don't always like to ride on the same tracks as each other. According to the STM maintenance staff, it has something to do with the way that the power is returned back along the rails. The MR73's recycle the unused electricity, while the MR63's produce heat to dissipate the unused electricity.
I have seen more people in the Montreal Metro on a slow summer Sunday Morning... On a normal rush, you are standing up squeezed between a fat guy armpit and a crying baby..
Oh. I see what you mean. When I said Rush Hour, I meant that I was on the train on Tuesday afternoon at 4pm, which is during the scheduled rush hour. When the trains run 2 - 3 minutes apart.
Wait,what did it say? I heard a voice at 1:07.Was it the next stop info?WHAT DID IT SAY??!!!
fireblaze82 1 day ago
@fireblaze82 She said "Prochaine Station: Namur". It's the Green Line lady's voice, but saying the stations on the Orange Line! The STM thought ahead and knew they would eventually assign an MR63 model train to the Orange Line which is line that almost always uses the MR73 model.
MysticMTL 12 hours ago
To my opinion,MR-63's are the safest.They are made with much more than plastic.Maybe they malfunction a bit but,hey.They're old.
fireblaze82 2 days ago
@fireblaze82 The new trains are going to be made even thinner, and lighter with newer products. I don't know if it means safer though. I like MR-73's, but I prefer MR-63's.
MysticMTL 2 days ago
@MysticMTL I know,you like Jeumonts.But I like the 042,so fun to hear!Plus,when it leaves a station,you could actually feel the electricity doing the job :D
fireblaze82 1 day ago
@MysticMTL And plus,the door system on the MR-63 closes tightly,so that way they have lower chances of the door opening in the tracks.
fireblaze82 1 day ago
The MR-63 train looks very vandalised.
yaumatei1994 11 months ago
@yaumatei1994 It used to be so nice, and the vandalism really only started in the last 10 years. Because there was a train that was out of service in the late 1990's for a few years and when it came back into service around 2005 it looked like a brand new train because it had no scratches or graffiti in it! Since 2007 they have added a few measures to prevent damage, with scratch proof plastic, and graffiti proof windows. It won't work overnight, but it's a start.
MysticMTL 11 months ago
Wow the people in the subway look so depressed lol
franki3Ru550 1 year ago
@franki3Ru550 I think this was recorded during the afternoon rush hour, and people were tired as they rode the train home. The STM is in the process of changing all of the lights in the trains to make people more awake and attentive, and less tired and depressed.
MysticMTL 1 year ago
@MysticMTL I kinda liked the Ambient lighting of one out of three lights awake :P
sylvie606 9 months ago
@MysticMTL
I have fallen asleep in the metro before, but only on MR-63s! Even the Jeumont at its loudest couldn't keep me awake! XP
NovaBUSFan 9 months ago in playlist montreal city metro
The only way I can differentiate between the green and orange lines is by the announcement lady's voice... on the green line , her voice is MUCH lower pitch, much slower and more enunciated..I like her pronunciation more.. only trouble is that she sometimes sounds like she's having one of those days where your voice is a little hoarse whebn you wake up lol.. The orange line lady is much higher-pitched and feminie-sounding..plus she talks faster..
ammarios 1 year ago 2
@ammarios If you ride a Green Line train on the Orange Line, you'll hear the stations announced, but by the other voice. The two names of the station announcers iirc are, are Judith Ouilmet and the other is Michelle Deslauriers.
MysticMTL 1 year ago
great sighting, by the way! =D
BusBoyCRHS 1 year ago
True. But i'm not sure if they even made mr-08s yet. They look as if they're from the future or something like that. I havent seen one in reallity yet. They're too "BRAND NEW" if you ask me.
SuperXpress2 1 year ago
@SuperXpress2 The contract isn't even signed, and it will take about 4 years to see the first trains arrive, once they start work on them. But so far everything is on hold it seems.
MysticMTL 1 year ago
@MysticMTL i say give it to Bombardier why this country, this province trusts them, they make beautiful stuff, they can provide hundreds of new jobs.
MrZackattack2010 1 year ago
@MrZackattack2010 I think this is the same thinking that the STM was using when they originally ordered the new MR08's, but companies around the world took them to court and won their right to fight for a bidding process, which takes so much longer, and in the end it will be Bombardier that makes our trains.
MysticMTL 1 year ago
@MysticMTL i say give it to Bombardier why this country, this province trusts them, they make beautiful stuff, they can provide hundreds of new jobs also i believe some time ago a poll went out most people want to give it to them anyways
MrZackattack2010 1 year ago
I havent seen an mr-63 on the orange line. They're usualy on the green line and the yellow line. Here its usualy mr-73.
SuperXpress2 1 year ago
@SuperXpress2 Exactly! Back in the 1970's it was the other way around and there were MR73's on the green line and MR63's on the Orange Line. In the future the Green Line will have the MR73's and the Orange Line will have the MR08's, (if an order is ever made). They still have MR63's occasionally on the Orange Line when they are missing trains, since there appears to be a maintenance shortage now, and they have more MR63's than MR73's, which is why they use them on the Yellow Line now too.
MysticMTL 1 year ago
The new MR 08s will be rubber tyred like the existing fleet and they will be articulated and have security cameras.
gamerrails 1 year ago
The new MR 08s will be rubber tyred like the existing fleet
They will be articulated and have security cameras.
I Don't know if they will have air conditioning
gamerrails 1 year ago
The new MR 08s are going to be rubber tyred like the existing fleet.
They will be articulated and will have security cameras.
It is hard to tell if they will have air conditioning. Considering that the summers are hot as they are in Toronto.
gamerrails 1 year ago
Nothing is confirmed yet. Every time they select the metro design and builder, someone else takes them to court, so right now we're still at the drawing board process. AC was an option but I'm not sure if it will be in the final design. It could be too expensive and generate too much heat to be worthwhile to them, so we might just have to endure the heat underground for another 40 years.
MysticMTL 1 year ago
mr-63 are old and shitty, i take the green line everyday and they are terrble... much rather them take all the mr-63 out and have mr-73 :)
HiddingInTheCloset 2 years ago
@HiddingInTheCloset If the contract gets accepted, they will replace all of the metro cars in the next 10 years. But they keep having setbacks by different companies fighting to get the contract to build the new metro cars. So we'll have atleast another 5-7 years of MR63s, and possibly 10-12 years for the MR73s. The MR08's could arrive as soon as 2015.
MysticMTL 2 years ago
the chinese want us to use steel wheels altho steel wheels could bring the metro outside
MrZackattack2010 2 years ago
We have a unique subway system with rubber tires, which are quiet and can climb high inclines, unlike steel tires which are louder (even if newer ones are quieter, the people think of steel as loud and the people who live above the subway tunnels will fight it). They would need to replace the entire network all at once to the new steel tire standard, and I'm not that confident in the quality of Chinese metro cars, if their metro cars are the same quality as everything else that comes from China.
MysticMTL 2 years ago
At 1:01 I heard the Ms. Green Line / Ms. MR-63 say "Prochaine station Namur". So I guess either it's automatic text-to-speech or the lady recorded every station on the network? I always wondered how they did the announcements...
tony0964 3 years ago
Yeah, when they recorded her voice, they had in mind that the MR63s would be needed on the Orange Line while the MR73s were being rebuilt. They even have the Laval Stations programmed in, which the MR73s don't even have!
MysticMTL 3 years ago
But then, I wonder, why did they they pick another person to record the Green line? Because if I remember correctly, the new (and current) recording of the MR-73s came about the same time as the first (and current) recording of the MR-63 (somewhere in 2003-2004?). Too bad we don't have any vids of the old days (with the old muffled MR73 lady, and the "announce-if-you-want-to" MR63 scheme.
Actually, MR73s already have Laval programmed for a long time now, if that's what you meant ;) lol.
tony0964 3 years ago
Yeah, sometimes I hear them turn off the automatic announcer on the green line, especially during the recent labour dispute. Ok, they're programmed. I don't go too often to Laval, and when I went a few weeks ago they had no station mentions at all, so I just assumed that they weren't programmed in yet.
MysticMTL 3 years ago
Now it is a text-to-speech. but originally it was a recording. Many station name are still with the original voice of the lady. We can not differentiate, the Vocal synthetisis is a reproduction of the voice of the lady who made the recordings.
fuckingxemo 2 years ago
@tony0964 It was a lady and yes, she recorded every single station name. Her name is Judith Ouimet (look up a youtube video titiled "Judith Ouimet-Berri UQAM").. I read a long article about her describing what the process was like.. She said they made her pronounce them all MANY MANY times, with different tones and different pronunciations... she said it was a VERY long process .. and apparently they also asked her to make sure that she used a standard EU French accent..I love her voice
ammarios 1 year ago
@ammarios When did the announcements first come to the MR-73s?
yaumatei1994 11 months ago
@yaumatei1994 Ihe mid 1990's they added completely automated announcements in the MR73's, and around 2002 we saw the semi-automated announcements added to the MR63's. On MR73's the train announces based on a relay on the tracks and MR63's Operator has to manually select the train direction and which stop to start at, and more or less presses PLAY on the recordings, so if the train stops in mid tunnel, the train will assume that the train has arrived as the station and announce the next station.
MysticMTL 11 months ago
J'ai deja pris un MR-63 sur la ligne Orange, mais il allait un p'tit peu lent, est ce normal?
Autobus08 3 years ago
Oui, les moteurs sont un peu moins performantes que les MR73's.
MysticMTL 3 years ago
Lol I dont understand what you did?
Vlamakis 3 years ago
I'm riding on a train that doesn't belong on this particular metro line, but they're using these older trains temporarily on this line while they renovate the newer trains, so it's a pretty rare sight to see, and probably won't see this ever happen again in the future.
MysticMTL 3 years ago
Ohh thanks!!
Vlamakis 3 years ago
I always wondered what happened if you rode the subway all the way to the end of the line, anybody know? Do you just turn around and keep on riding or do they ask you to vacate the car?
argent48 3 years ago
how could u tell the difference beetween a MR63, and a MR 73??
habsfan2010 3 years ago
Soundwise, MR63's have a higher pitch sound, while MR73's run with a deeper rich sound. And MR73's always start with 3 sequential notes, and only 2 prototype MR63's start with similar notes. Interiorwise, the MR63's have grey walls and white with speckled black seats, and the MR73's either have orange with white seats, or (new remodels) have dark blue seats and brown walls.
MysticMTL 3 years ago
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BrettTGarrod 4 years ago
does anyone look at you weird or like stare at you when you take videos of metro's and stuff? im facinated by montreals transportation system and im hoping to work there in a few years (right now im 16) but when i take a video or something people look at me like im some lunatic voyeur lol
ngfrost 4 years ago
Yeah, I kind of get that impression when videotaping or photographing in the metro or on the bus. I also have had a few encounters with metro security and bus supervisors, but I've managed to explain my way out of any trouble.
MysticMTL 4 years ago
I almost find it office that you could have run into trouble for that. They wouldn't have bothered you if you have CBC sticker on the camera. That's BS. This post-9/11 world is a piece of crap. I want out ;P
xsmurf 4 years ago
I agree. Before these issues of 9/11, we used to be allowed to chat with the driver while he was driving and he left the door open for us, and we used to be able to visit the metro/bus garages without any problems. Now so much has changed, it's really a shame...
MysticMTL 4 years ago
I now live in Toronto, and I remember when I was a kid in the 80's this is how it was. MR-63s were on the Orange and MR-73s were on the Green. In the late 80's I believe, they swapped the lines. But it's funny how MTL assigns trains to run on a specific line. In TO, you see H-5s and T-1 trains on all lines. They dont have any specific assignment.
alyr315 4 years ago
It has something to do with the MR73's are more capable of climbing the higher inclines on the Orange Line, as well the MR73's like to return unused power to the tracks, while the MR63's just disperse it as heat. Then there are the reasons that some STM maintenance have stated, the MR63's and MR73's don't get along with each other while they're on the same line.
MysticMTL 4 years ago
why do the trains seem like the green line?
matteodi 4 years ago
That's why I took this video, because it was a rare sighting of seeing a Green Line train on the Orange Line.
MysticMTL 4 years ago
som time the MR63 MACK DO DO DOOOOOOOOO
bloodman2345 4 years ago
It's more a question of reliability. The MR63's and the MR73's don't always like to ride on the same tracks as each other. According to the STM maintenance staff, it has something to do with the way that the power is returned back along the rails. The MR73's recycle the unused electricity, while the MR63's produce heat to dissipate the unused electricity.
MysticMTL 4 years ago
thats is not the afternoon rush..
Vlamatos 4 years ago
Why do you not think this is the afternoon rush?
MysticMTL 4 years ago
I have seen more people in the Montreal Metro on a slow summer Sunday Morning... On a normal rush, you are standing up squeezed between a fat guy armpit and a crying baby..
Vlamatos 4 years ago
Oh. I see what you mean. When I said Rush Hour, I meant that I was on the train on Tuesday afternoon at 4pm, which is during the scheduled rush hour. When the trains run 2 - 3 minutes apart.
MysticMTL 4 years ago