NH: Manchester civil disobedience continues - Pot, Gandhi

[lukrativ0922]

Weed will become legal now because of people trying to get arrested (sarcasm). Also, notice the baby stroller right by them at the bus stop. Even in the event weed became legal, you still should not smoke around kids.

[spamonko]

test

[JesusDillinger]

Hey, I thought marijuana caused people to be come unspeakably violent and libidinous.

[thisthetruthaboutyou]

I am not from NH but I can say by observing your published videos your group is hypocritical and does nothing more than create issues to victimize yourselves you all look foolish and because of you I will never step foot in your state. Freestarters. Your organization or group is overzealous the only thing we see here is cameramen and narrators creating the pettiest conflicts from nothing just to have a reason to cry. You cause all the conflict you report you fail to report the facts.

[libertarianjury]

I bet the really bad pigs (DEA, BATFE, IRS) will be moving pig reinforcements into NH now.

Another thing to do would be to show up one at a time to get arrested (to ensure the arrest of some people), and video them from far away. Then, have more and more people show up at the scene of the arrest who are smoking and carrying .762 rifles. Have the police arrest them, one by one, or make a mockery of the arrest of the first one.

Remain peaceful, but show them numbers that raise questions.

[adamwtyler]

kids are watching

[RidleyReport]

testing. i heard comments were mysteriously disabled for this vid.

[Elephantintheroom01]

I don't understand why people can't see a connection between protecting any kind of liberty and protecting all liberties...

[mcgrawtim123]

I have an old High School friend who's a retired S.F. cop and he has a medical marijuana card. The marijuana laws, statutes, acts, whatever, have to be repealed.

[HHODork]

What is the location of the Manch 420 protest? I live about 20 min away and would like to show up for it on monday. Can someone IM me with the address? Thanks

[txballoonman]

Veteran"s Park on Elm St., downtown, just north of the Verizon Center

[smellyfooty]

tell that to Tommy Chong...

[bigjohnson9687]

We need more people to take a stand like this, I hope it keeps up, and emailing your elected government officials, is one of the easiest ways to help out the cause to legalize marijuana, we voted them into office, they need to hear from us. I support these guys. hopefully you made your way down here a couple of weeks ago for the freedom rally in boston,ma it was great. tons of pot smoking on the green, right in front of the state house.

[Pv8man]

lol, that home made song is funny...

great activism though....

very well thought out...

[StarLitStranger]

An unjust law is itself a species of violence. Arrest for its breach is more so.

Mohandas Gandhi

Thought you guys would like that

[p00lman]

And how is this law unjust?

[hibraisil]

Its unjust because , even though pot isn't harmless, its no more risky than many other things Americans do every day. Either legalize Pot or outlaw anything that is just as risky or riskier. Its only fair.

[p00lman]

You're talking about fairness, not justness in the eyes of the law.

[boots920]

"eyes of the law"

They might be 1.4 million dead Iraqi citizens , genocide and the big debate in the states is some taxpayers smoking pot.

Yes only in America , pretty sharp eyes...you couldn't get more ridiculous if you tried.

[p00lman]

Not only in America, and states cannot declare war with other countries, so your analogy fails.

[hibraisil]

fairness is a big part of judging what is just and unjust. Something does not become just merely because a law is written to support it. Otherwise slavery would be considered to have been just because the laws of the time supported it. In cases like this, where people wanting their liberty have been trying for over 40 years to get the unjust laws repealed, civil disobedience becomes the only option.

[p00lman]

Slavery WAS considered just at the time. Thankfully, concerns over human rights prevailed.

I'd love to see you make a case that pot smoking is a human rights issue.

[savemyplaylist]

Just look at your position. These people are partying, smoking and having a good time, all the while you hold some prohibition law as sacred.

You much be a VERY boring person. Go organize your stamp collection.

[p00lman]

If only I was a criminal, I could be interesting like you.

[savemyplaylist]

Pretty much, yeah. As far as the government is concerned, it wants obedient, mindless consumers. It appears to have worked quite well in making you one.

Looking at your profile I can tell you one thing: you will never be a rocker. You are a boring prude and represent everything rock is not.

[p00lman]

You shouid tell my band that.

[boots920]

No Victim ...

[p00lman]

That doesn't mean it's unjust. Use a dictionary.

[boots920]

Well why is a just law then ? People taking drugs is a medical condition not a crime. Otherwise all the alcoholics and smokers would be in jail.

That's probably the next wiz bang idea the gov. will come up with.

[p00lman]

You can't have a "just law," because the laws define what justice is to each country.

If an entire population was allergic to pineapples, the country would probably outlaw pineapples and any import of pineapples. Is that just or unjust? Neither. It exists for the sake of the society.

[boots920]

So what harm does pot do ?

Does the same as alcohol or cigs. ?

The government wants to keeps drugs illegal so they can finance their black opps. IE free trade with columbia , its such a joke. Oliver North com'on nothing happens to these crooks, just the pot smokers its ridiculous.

[StarLitStranger]

Alcohol was once illegal and funded many criminals during Prohibition. Now we fund cartels in Mexico and terrorist organizations because of the black market created.

We also spend so much money on keeping non violent offenders in jail.

Marijuana has been proven to be less harmful then alcohol, a medicinal plant, and hemp can be used as a healthy alternative to most materials and possibly fuel. YET IT REMAINS ILLEGAL.

[p00lman]

I don't disagree with your points.

But the way to change this is through legislation, not being an idiot and doing something currently illegal.

[StarLitStranger]

There is nothing wrong with civil disobedience.

And who has more influence over politicians these days? Lobbyist or voters?

I agree that it is a stupid thing for the individuals (for their own personal lives) to do but important for the cause it represents.

[p00lman]

There's civil disobedience, but then there's legal disobedience.

[StarLitStranger]

Whatever you want to call it. Its non-violent protest.

[p00lman]

No. You can protest in a way that doesn't break the existing law.

[JohnBabiuk]

there is a huge difference between law, act, and statute. Otherwise, they wouldn't be called, law's, act's, or statute's. Find a Black's Law Dictionary, or better yet a Bouvier's Law Dictionary (the only Law Dictionary used by the Supreme Court) and do a little research. There is absolutely no LAW broke in the above video!

[p00lman]

Believe what you'd like. Go out and start smoking up in front of the police department and see what happens.

[JohnBabiuk]

lol rather than speak from ignorance, go do some research. Look up Corpus Delicti. Pull up the Controlled Drugs and Substances ACT, find a Law Dictionary (like suggested below) and see the courts definitions of words, and how they differ from common understanding of language. Then return to the debate! Until then, I'll claim victory through two law Maxims. 1) He who distinguishes well, learns well. And 2) Let he who would be deceived, be deceived!

[p00lman]

Smells like hypocrisy!

[kittyprydekissme]

Actually, protesting by breaking the law is very effective. That was the point behind lunch-counter sit-ins and freedom rides. When police arrest the lawbreaking protesters it makes the police (and hence the law) look bad. If police do not arrest them, it shows that no harm comes to society from the law being broken. Also, widespread breaking of a law makes what enforcement remains appear arbitrary and harsh, which turns opinion further against the law, as occured with alcohol prohibition.

[inertia186]

Haha. The "legal disobedience" idea is classic! Is that like a neutral subsidy?

[hibraisil]

Is this the same answer you would give to the people that broke the laws to help Jews escape Nazis, or to people who broke the laws to form the underground railroad to bring slaves to freedom?

[p00lman]

That's a hliarious and absurd analogy.

Try again.

[hibraisil]

Not at all. You're position is that the law is sacrosanct and above reproach until it is changed. These extreme examples demonstrate the fallacy of that position.

[p00lman]

I'm position?

Once you invoke naziism, you've given up on a rational argument.

[hibraisil]

Yes, I'm aware that I used "you're" instead of "your." Good job proofreading but notice how you refuse to actually address what I wrote and instead simply dismiss it. That's usually the position of someone who has no real answer.

[p00lman]

Let's see you pose a real argument without invoking naziis. Or is that the only example you have?

[BanjoNaps]

their is no federal justification to ban any substance. That junk "act" from the 1970s is easily unconstitutional. The interstate commerce clause does not give the federal government the power to make any substance illegal. That power; as the tenth amendment clearly states, is reserved to the states. Having a federal ban an cannabis is clearly illegal, and in the case of industrial hemp 100% irrational. If a state government wants to have it legal it is well with its right to do so.

[p00lman]

"Having a federal ban an cannabis is clearly illegal."

Er, it's illegal? Are you sure that's the word you want to use?

Okay, then who should be arrested for it?

[alistairproductions]

@StarLitStranger Not to edit gandhi, but you could even get rid of the word unjust

[CMLovejoy]

Modern Day Hippies.

[p00lman]

It's not like the definition of hippies has changed.

Unfortunately they're as dumb as ever.

[boots920]

Why are they dumb ?

What's dumb is the US government's war on drugs 0 benefit for billions spent.

Then you have to consider the US government might be the biggest drug dealer in the world .

Example Oliver North - Drugs for Arms screwing with countries with proceeds from drug sales.

[p00lman]

Can you possibly try to respond to someone without pasting the same nonsensical trollish shit over and over? No one is reading your crap. No one cares! Either participate in the discussion or go jump off a cliff.

[boots920]

Well the hamster taxpayers don't care now but they will when it costs $100 US Fed Notes to buy a loaf of bread.

Take a midol buddy the American public won't do shit until they see the problem.

[p00lman]

1. Respond to what I wrote.

2. Stop spamming.

[StarLitStranger]

Yes because emailing your senator ever really does anything.  lmao