New York City MTA Bx31 Orion VII #7806

[Keviniar777]

I think that cng sounds way better than hev

[8v71buses]

Thanks! Btw some TAs are going to repower their S50 buses with ISLs but the problem i have with that is DD new engines are only options for the Tour Bus Applications, and the ISL is the only option for the transit bus application :-(

[8v71buses]

Oops! I meant to say brownbrownson, (Just out of curiousity) Do you know if the NYCTA has any plans on repowering the V CNGs, VII CNGs, C40LFs, or the RTS buses with ISL engines in the future?

[brownbrownson]

@8v71buses lol that's alright. i actually have no idea. i'm a transit guy in Vegas, not NYC. so, you'd probably be better off asking @Caitsith810. :)

[8v71buses]

Yo Caitsith810, (Just out of curiousity) Do you know if the NYCTA has any plans on repowering the V CNGs, VII CNGs, C40LFs, or the RTS buses with ISL engines in the future?

[8v71buses]

The Series 50 Orion VII CNG's sound more powerful and better than the Series 50 C40LF's

[moneg2008]

loud bus

[moneg2008]

i have bx33 ner me

[moneg2008]

that bus is shoting

[sieman700]

what's with the back door's look like they dont stay open

[brownbrownson]

you know, i think the driver will turn the door "on" and can be pushed open if needed and will stay closed if no one uses it. then as the driver gets ready to depart, the switch will be turned off, disabling the door. i think that's how it works.. but don't take my word for it..

[sammydenyc]

Yes, brownbrownson, you are correct. Its passenger operated, so if unlocked the passengers can just push the door open (or press the yellow tape to open automatically, which sometimes doesn't work), and then when its time to leave we wait until the doors close and then it locks. Then bye bye.

[brownbrownson]

funny, i've never seen it happened.. it just seemed like the most logical way it'd work.. and thanks for clarifying.. !

[brownbrownson]

im sure the yellow tape only alerts the driver to stop at the next stop..

[moneg2008]

i got bx33 ner me dude loud

[Sarah7694]

I love those VIIs. :)

[venusfan]

Hybrids are the best as they make doing the Q41 and it's 40+ turns an afterthought. Only wish they were more reliable though as for costing $1/2 million dollar each they seem to break down a lot. Oh, and when I have a full load forget it when going over bumps as the bus feels like there is not suspension at all.

[TuneRVisioN510]

This is the CNG, not Hybrid... I wonder why people get them confused when they sound so different :S

[QueensBuses]

I have a question, what is the sound at 0:50 caused by? Its constantly heard on 05 and 07 CNGs.

[brownbrownson]

i asked the same and i've been told its the turbo..i think i'm wrong though..

[TuneRVisioN510]

It IS the turbo.

[brownbrownson]

okay, good. i thought i was remembering wrong..

[sammydenyc]

Yah, its the turbo release, AKA blow off valve. luv that sound!

[brownbrownson]

me too! :]

[brownbrownson]

i like that sound better on the C40LFs..

[nyct54]

I love these buses they sound good

[Centro31]

Wow, that bus is loud!

[kingjokerakadd1]

why do they sound like diesel buses

[TuneRVisioN510]

Because this is a Detroit Diesel! LOL jk I dunno.

[QueensBuses]

The CNG version has DD50s. The hybrid version has Cummins ISBs.

[TuneRVisioN510]

Yeah, Detroit Diesel Series 50G EGR to be specific ;)

[brownbrownson]

because buses run off of diesel fuel. as far as i know..

[BXM4C]

That is indeed a CNG Orion.

[newyorkfan16]

Oh ok, so how rare are the New Flyer C40LFs there?

[brownbrownson]

are you asking me?

[TuneRVisioN510]

They are ONLY in Brooklyn, and not on too many routes. But 911 and 912 are always around throggs neck, bronx running as training bus or N.I.S. bus during the day.

[brownbrownson]

why are they only in Brooklyn?

[TuneRVisioN510]

I have no clue but I am glad they're not in the Bronx because that will mean good VII CNGs going to Brooklyn to get beaten up.

[newyorkfan16]

Do the D60HFs always run in Manhattan?

[brownbrownson]

i so wish i could answer that...but when i was there, i really only saw them in manhattan..

[TuneRVisioN510]

The run in Manhattan, Bronx, and Queens (Seen 2 D60HF's on the Q111, it wasn't a NYCT bus either...)

[JamaicaQnzFreak]

Yes they do, they run on the M14, M15, M79, M86, M101, M102 and M103 buses!

[TuneRVisioN510]

The run in Manhattan, Bronx, and Queens (Seen 2 D60HF's on the Q111, it wasn't a NYCT bus either...)

[JamaicaQnzFreak]

They are on the Q113....the demo NG's were testing on the Q111!

[TuneRVisioN510]

Ohh my mistake...

Anyone knows whats causing that cool whine sound on takeoff? Its even more common on ZF trannies on the VII...

[QueensBuses]

Yes thats a Orion 7 CNG, Im not too familiar with them though. They only run on Brooklyn and the Bronx routes.

[brownbrownson]

why is that?

[QueensBuses]

Dont know. They run the HEVs in Queens and Manhattan

[brownbrownson]

whats HEV? hybrid electric?

[TuneRVisioN510]

Yeah... What camcorder do you have?

[brownbrownson]

Canon Elura 100. i actually recorded this on film, but WMM is terrible and skips all of my videos i produce from it and so as an alternative, i reupload them to my SD card and so on.

[nycbusfan]

Because there are only two depots that can fuel CNG buses.

[brownbrownson]

Out of the (how many depots are there anyway?) depots there are in NYC?

[QueensBuses]

I think 27 or 28. But nycbusfan, what about the Orion V CNGs at College Point.

[TuneRVisioN510]

This is the Orion VII CNG #7806, not 7608. lol

[brownbrownson]

im weird like that...sorry!

[TuneRVisioN510]

It's cool, 7608 is still an Orion VII CNG, but not with the same transmission and destination signs.

[brownbrownson]

are the D. signs green? what transmission does it have?

[TuneRVisioN510]

And I think that's by Allerton ave.

[brownbrownson]

it was right in front of an ice cream booth thing.. that started with a "C"

[TuneRVisioN510]

It must be Mace Ave. then. :)

[brownbrownson]

the ice cream shop is called Carvel.

[TuneRVisioN510]

Okay 233rd Street and Paudling Avenue, damn its hard to tell all the Bx31 route look the same.

[brownbrownson]

correct! that's where it was. my new video i should be putting up soon was recorded in front of a little grocery shop named Associated over on Laconia...-i forgot the other cross street.

[TuneRVisioN510]

Was it another Bx31, or Bx28/30 video?

[brownbrownson]

Bx31. i kinda messed up the end though. :( oh well, i'll be back in the 917 soon lol

[corcom2007]

@brownbrownson I used to live in the Edenwald Projects (EWP) near Associated on E.229th Street

[brownbrownson]

@corcom2007 i think i passed by there when i was in the Bronx two weeks ago.