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  • Gay-ass Disney robot kills it.Otherwise really cool creepy scene.Saw this waaaay back.Remembered the "ring" at the end,not the "disturbing hell-in-black hole scene".

  • This movie was released in December 1979.....not '78, not '70.

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  • Nah, all you need in doom is the shotgun.

  • @em23 Yeah, Alan Dean Foster wrote a novelisation where the consciousness of the Palomino crew exists after the Black Hole - but his book was largely an expansion of the film's screenplay. It also sets the event as occuring near Christmas and extends the film story with adittional scenes and dialogue. I also have a UK annual with a comic strip that shows the crew returning to Earth in a parallel universe. The Maximillian / Frank McCrae plot was in a very early draft of the screenplay! :-)

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  • I heard that one of the original drafts of the script revealed that Kate's father, the first officer of The Cygnus, was punished by Reinhardt (after trying to seize control of the ship and return to Earth) by being lobotomised and imprisoned in Maximillian. At the end, that's why Reinhardt is imprisoned in his place in Hell and Kate's father's soul is shown freed and going to Heaven! Flakey explanation, but I haven't heard a better one!! Great movie.

  • @whinger1996 i remember reading the novelization to this movie and it was something to the effect of the three characters and the robot becoming like spirits and ascending to a higher realm. 

  • I wasnt born.

  • Just a note....the date on this should be 1978, not 1970. Hope it helps.

  • @StormsongK thank you - I have amended it :-)

  • @StormsongK

    Hate to tell you... it's 1979

  • @sullybaseball You're right...I always remember it as '78 for some reason. Maybe I was still 8 when it came out. I double-checked, and you're correct.

  • @StormsongK Thought it was 79....

  • @tall32guy Yes, I've since been told it was '79.  I keep remembering it as '78 'cos I hadn't turned 9 yet.

  • in the book of enoch a man is guided to the stars by an angel and that angel takes him to a great terrible black where thos angels (planets) that have turned from god are to exist in oblivion for millions of years, in it the guy gives a perfect description of a black hole, black holes equal hell,the bible and shit like it arnet books of fiction people, they are just written in different perceptions

  • @Trollamollex Wonderfully said!

  • ShadowSonic - could be, ideas seem to come around and go around.

  • So, is this where Event Horizon got the idea for "Go through a Black Hole, go to Hell" thing from?

  • ftolmsteen - I think it’s a bit like the Frankenstein and his monster (whereby he gets killed by his own monster)...the guy who gets imprisoned in the robot was the robot's creator.

  • @KleenezeRichardGreta Also, he is the Robot in a sense, as creator he's infused him with his darker nature. He also said natures laws don't apply in the black hole, so his soul being imprisoned inside the robot is fitting. He was in hell to begin with (madness) and the hell of the black hole is a fitting place for him for all eternity.

  • I never watched this movie. So the guy looking face to face with the robot somehow gets imprisoned in the robot? Or becomes it? I dunno.

  • 2:12 HOLY CRAP ALAN MOORE!

  • I would like to hear a Heavenly song like this end piece for my Ascending ! Then I would surely know that I made it!

  • A sugar coated version of Hell to the millionth power.

  • They're supposed to be remaking this sometime in the next few years.

  • I want to see the sequel where they return to Bizzarro earth and dogs wear hats and go to work and have chimps on leads, while cats rule the oceans!

  • WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

  • It's atmospheric and.. whoa...wait a minute...I just realized that you are all just characters in my dream.

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  • Alice in Wonderland, in reverse...

  • it looks like mordor

  • Well that just creeped the shit out of me.

    Let us hope that hell really isn't what is on the other side of a black hole.

    Other than that... longest ending without words EVER!

  • why in the FUCK is the robot having an existential moment?

  • @maxymyllyon *Shrugs* It's deep?

  • Going through a black hole turns you into a cylon? I did not know that.

  • it looks like reindhearts making out with maximillion. and they both gave birth to a cyborg max. hahaha

  • Well that would suck ass....

  • Disney movies were cool back then. Nowadays, I don't know...

  • I saw this in the theater at 11 years old, and even all these years later it still creeps me out. This wasn't Disney trying to be shocking, it was genuine psychological terror. In 1979! No horrific makeup or language needed. Those were the days.

  • @kirk1968 Movies were like that back then. Even into the 80's they were somewhat. Now, no one tries that approach anymore really with science fiction/thriller/suspense/horr­or movies. They have lost touch with how Hitchcock and all the master filmmakers did it. :)

  • I like the music, sounds like something john williams would compose. Great score!

  • @veeseee128 Close--John Barry did the score for this. Hope they use it in the remake.

  • Reinhardt inprisoned in his robot maximillion for eternity that was his punishment to be isolated, dead, and evil as the things he created.

  • Thisis so bizzare its like hell. Did reinheardt emerge with maxiimillion? weird sequence. hahah hell it tis.

  • Disney needs to produce more movies like this...instead of the nutless infantile insulting mockeries of cinema they keep defacating onto the general public.

  • @mowriter Why? For all the guts shown thematically here, this film bombed on first release and to do this day is regarded by most critics as one of Disney's more infamous live-action turkeys.

    No Hollywood studio is going to be courageous--or crazy--enough to attempt a metaphysical ending like this with a mainstream release ever again. Particularly not Disney, and not for kids. I first saw this at 4 in the theater and had to look away during the Hell sequence, as it was INTENSE.

  • @gpwerner : well it always comes down to marketability, doesn't it? I wonder if Eisner is why they went from daring and creative to insulting and pablum.

    The thing is...kids can handle the edgier stuff! Maybe not 4 (I might have been 7 or 8), but pre-teens for sure.

  • @mowriter We know that, but the days of Disney having the fortitude and confidence in small children to handle "serious, adult" themes are long gone outside of the occasional Pixar film.

  • im sooo cofused about the whole becoming the robot thing i guess its because i saw this out of the context of the movie

  • @sargientcupcake Nope: you watch the whole movie from beginning to end and this last bit is just as confusing O_o

  • @sargientcupcake I recommend reading the book *SPOILER ALERT* Basically the book says that any 'consciousness' going through the event horizon of a black hole is transformed into the seed of another galaxy/universe/part of the cosmological 'whole entity' where time as the 4th dimension is a flat scale, ie there are no units of measurement... (sorry if this doesn't really help) ;-)

  • They´re listeting idoser xD

  • This is a fuckin trip! lol

  • @81pluto fo real

  • Maximillion is awesome.

    I always thought that was Jesus going through the heavenly tunnel.

  • @alexforever411 It has always appeared to me to be him as well.

  • I hope the remake will be as dark as the original one. Maybe darker. And the soundtrack has to give you the creeps as John Barry's great soundtrack did.

  • "with a bit of a mind slip your into a time trip lets do the time warp again!!!!

  • If the movie event horizon has tought me anything we should pray for there souls....But if doom has tought me anything lets hope they have a marine in there crew that doesnt talk alot and packs alot of guns in bodily orifices

  • lol i liked how you spelled orifices right correctly but not "their" but i 100 percent agree with you, nasa should make it regulation that on every voyage there should be a mute bad ass with wayyyyy too many guns

  • sounds reasonable to me. a girl with big jugs would also make sense....

  • Why is it that whenever somebody is ragging on somebody for writing something dumb, they always make a mistake and write something dumb themselves? It seems to happen every time. Well I for won refuse to make that mistake.

  • @sargientcupcake Wouldn't make no difference. Eventually you run out of ammo.

  • @outlawstar15a2 fists of manlyness?

  • @sargientcupcake LAWLZ.

  • @sargientcupcake I wouldnt be praying, i would be too busy doing some talking with either my shotgun, chainsaw or BFG9000!

  • @sargientcupcake Either way, I know for absolutely SURE I do NOT want to go to hell when I die! and I don't want anyone else to go there either! Even if they are someone I don't like! LOL

  • uhhhhhhhhhhh oook

  • So two guys and a woman all get trapped alone on the other side of a black hole. There's either going to be a lot of three-ways, or somebody's stuck doing the robot.

  • @vulpalasar Borat says "I'm thinking 3 of ways, robot has power switch ehh?"

  • LET'S PRAY HE WAS A GENIOUS

  • even the robot gets a psychedelic close - up! This is a very odd film, like Disney doing 2001

  • The best ro bot I've ever seen...xDD

  • fake

  • no shit

  • @xenthiro You're a complete idiot for pointing that out.

  • No doubt a good movie for its day!

  • fail!

  • Top (Disney) scientists have concluded that when you go into a black hole you hear a lot of psychedelic talking, see hell, see heaven and then come out on the other side just fine.

  • MAXIMILLIAN is hot stuff !!!

  • So...Reindhart entered the black hole and was sent to Bohemian Grove?

  • Reindhart... from Legend of Galactic Heroes?

  • I never understood this part. Maximillian was supposed to be a robot, right? What's with the eyes under his visor?

  • they were like, fused, or something

  • The cast should have endured spaghettification

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  • cool scene but that robot was shit. even for 1979...

  • Hippy Comment

    Maybe were all going through the black hole of life

  • Life IS a black hole.

    It sucks and then you die.

  • Interesting idea katyrick09.

    Quantum uncertainty suggests that since virtual particle pairs are constantly being created and then destroy each other, some of the particles get sucked into the hole, while the opposite ones escape, creating particle out of the uncertainty. If virtual particles come out of the uncertainty, then maybe anyone going in becomes part of the quantum uncertainty. That uncertainty may be the universal consciousness, or God, or at least a major part of the universe.

  • In the novel, Reinhardt & Max ended up in a form of hell and yet the good guys instead of travellig through some form a heavenly limbo-safely into a galaxy - actually were suggested to have been destroyed in the Hole and became 'a part of the universe'! So tragic ending all round.

  • I tried to go into the "Black Hole" with my girlfriend...she didn't like anal sex.

  • Hahahaha!

  • LMAO That more likely be a Brown Hole or different color depending of what she ate. There's this book I was reading at Walden Books: "What your poop tells you". That was funny big time, but very true.

  • Something caused all this. But what caused... that cause?

  • Someone once asked me, would you rather kiss a bunny between the ears or go through a black hole...be wise what you pick for...

  • reality matter , as we know it does not survive a black hole ... in my opinion heaven and hell are what we make them ( a part of our consciousness ) ... and not after death . . . ( the possibility of Heaven and hell are on the earth and men do not see it . . . but create it , nonetheless . . .

  • I have 2 stupid questions for someone who may try to answer with or without 2 stupid answers.

    I personally do not believe in Hell fire, but assuming Hell does exist: "What would" (1) be more stronger?, A black hole or hell?. (2) According to religion, Hell is inside Earth. If so, evidently the black hole would attract Earth & therefore Hell along with it. Now, what if Hell is somewhere else other than Earth & gets too close to a black hole?.

  • @argent2020 All religions are bullshit.

  • A lot of similar theories were visited in the film Event Horizon only if I remember correctly that film presented the concept of an artificially created worm hole by an onboard generator of sorts. A fun concept to play with for sure.

  • argent that isnt necessarily true.there are several theories on what would happen upon entering a blackhole,the most popular is that you would bind with whatever is in it or enters it as you do

  • I once heard a guy saying that UFO's utilizes black holes to travel at the speed of light if not higher to move about in space.

    But, my understanding is that it is impossible for anything to travel faster than the speed of light.

  • @argent2020 Space can expand faster than the speed of light.

  • @kokobaboko As far as we know, nothing can travel faster than th speed of light..

    The space can't be expanded, space is just that, space; and is static.

  • @argent2020 Well aren't you an ignorant fuck, trying to act as if you know something.What you should have said was, "as far as YOU know." Look chimp, move out of the 1600's if you want to try and correct a modern mind. "static space", lol what is it like to go through life with a child's understanding of the universe? Are you really 43? Because that would make you stupid rather than ignorant, the things of which I speak should have been absorbed by cultural osmosis by you at this point.

  • @kokobaboko Sorry Mr. Butt Fucked, but the only one who acts stupid is no other than you. Of course, you're accepted as a modern moron in need of attention and a product of incest who likes to surf the net in search of a mega dick that would calm your need to be sodomized on a regular basis.

    Hey fag, dream on.

  • @argent2020 Just as I thought, you couldn't find one shred of evidence to prove you knew what you were talking about. You are just a stupid caveman living in a delusion wherein you actually have half a brain and know what you vomit out onto the internet. Typical backwards ape claiming to be all Christ-like, when that is just the veneer of a lie to cover the festering stupid and feckless piece of shit you are at the core. Learn some humility, at least some of the religious zealots try.

  • @kokobaboko. I doubt you can think with less than half of one of IQ score.

  • @argent2020 Learn the language, moron.

  • @kokobaboko Stop sucking dicks & taking the semen like tapioca. On a second thought, don't stop, come on!, keep sucking my dick, I'm cumming, I'm cumming..Swallow it!,

  • Well, according to ventose123 you'll become a dimensionless point in space and thus without volume.

    LOL, a compressed human being.

    I remember a program long ago in the discovery channel when they showed a rocket heading towards the black hole and while getting closer it started to stretch more and more and more until becoming like spaghetti more and more and more until they became microscopic.

  • I saw something on the discovery channel too. In which they explained if a group of Astronauts were to go NEAR-I think they said very close to the event horizon--and of course if they were able to leave it and come back home--over 500 years would pass...so strange..So the black hole changes time drastically.

  • I saw a rocket getting closer & stretching until becoming more & more like spaghetti.

    Then they showed Homer Simpson getting too close to the edge of a black hole.

    Do you believe in the possibility of portals?.

    I heard a story by someone saying that this guy was with his family at home, he got up from the diner table & as he walked he disappeared in front of everyone there present. Two months later, the family heard him screaming for help coming from the same spot where he banished.

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  • Interesting idea! It would be somewhat of a birth.

    Really, even our own human births are said to be a very stressful event (probably the most stressful event we normally go through). Just imagine being abducted from a dark world floating around in peace and then entering this world of chaos... weird 'human aliens' with white/blue coats and masks... bright lights... cold hard rectangular room! Yikes!

    I think there is a lot of symbolism to think about in the last part of this film.

  • This is by far stupid since the black holes are so big that even Earth itself would fit in like a mosquito in a big bad ass volcano. And not only that, anything that goes in would turn like spagetti until it just turns into molecules.

    The black holes have so much power that even the light itself cannot scape.

    However, I wonder if there's a singularity in the center of the black hole (deep inside of course). I doubt it.

  • Wrong again Internet; first all black holes contain singularities. In fact the term black hole is just a colloquial expression to refer to singularities.

    Second, black holes are super massive, but they occupy a dimensionless point in space and thus have no volume.

  • With this you say: "they occupy a dimensionless point in space and thus have no volume", you've just burnt my last neuron.

    A point without dimension.

    A point without volume.

    I thought without volume and without dimension you have no point.

    Explain volume & dimension in your own words, before going to Google.

  • Points have no dimension. Lines have one, planes have two, free space has three.

  • En.

    U're so right, Mr. Euclidean.

  • When I saw this movie as a kid, and it got to the part where you see Reinhardt floating around, I thought that the collapse of the Cygnus caused his body to become freed from the screen that fell on him and that he literally was floating freely in the black hole.

  • Hell? Hell makes no sense.

  • they would have been disintegrated if this was for real... retards

  • ACTUALLY, they would have become spaghettified, and broken down into constituient atoms.

    Why would you hold a sci-fi movie to the laws of physics? Inherent in the genre as the word fiction after all.

    Ignoramous.

  • I like how they are all trippin out as they go through. AHHhhhhhh!

  • warhammer 40k for the disney set

  • Funny how this movie fits perfectly into WH40K fluff - they just discovered The Warp! lol

  • and now we're all fucked because of disney! THANKS GUYS.

    heh.

  • "Event Horizon" would fit better with that comment.

  • event horizon is a sweet ass movie

  • except event horizon isn't a disney movie now, is it?

  • @glassineheart And what makes you think a Disney movie could better capture the sheer terror of 40K's Immaterium?

  • John Barry's music all sounds the same. Listening to this clip, I could almost imagine Roger Moore's shuttle pulling up to the space station from "Moonraker." Best thing of "Black Hole" was the design of the robot "Maximillian." Oddly, this was the name of the actor who portrayed the Nemo-like character.

  • Maximillian is indeed the coolest baddie robot ever (and what i wouldn't have given for him to torture the Roddy McDowell Robot to death as a bonus feature) but this hell-scene score is just great. Srsly, do you really see Roger and Lois and Richard Kiel and his diddy little blonde twisting their anti-gravity wires about to this?

  • wow you've never seen 2001: a space odyseey have you

  • I have. I assume you're referring to HAL, who isn't a robot.

  • I have to agree with you. Our local Woolies had the soundtrack for £1.50 back in the day so I took the bait. Boy, the dullest soundtrack ever. Really plodding.

  • I think that is the thing that a composer is identificied by his music style. If i hear a soundtrack i can tell you if it is from barry or not but is that good or bad ? How ewer I like mr. Barrys Sounds.I was a big big fan from Maximilian when i was 12 years old. Time is runnung out, we are all just black holes.

  • The ending of the novelization is even more weird. The crew travel through the black hole and they themselves become an entirely new universe, formed from their combined intelligences.

  • Yep, written by Alan Dean Foster, as I recall.

  • totally creepy. i had the paperback too but i couldn't remember the ending. now i'm freaked out.

  • this is a very understated film.

    i thought it was very good.

    very dark for a disney film.

    but im a fan.

  • Stupid idiot, your the queer and the douchebag here

  • It has impressed me ever since I was 9 years old.

  • Same here, it was probably the first sci-fi film I ever watched...

  • It is really epic ... when I was 18 I drew parts of it with corel draw.

  • STAR WARS XD

  • What is Rob Zombie doing this robot for at 2:09?

  • The fun thing about Dante's Inferno is that very little (or none) of his "Hell" is a fiery inferno. Indeed, the most damnable of the nether regions in Dante's work is portrayed as an almost Nifelheim-like environment... no warmth at all. That region is reserved for the worst of sinners; traitors against the divine and the universal order.

    Interesting stuff, although I dont believe it, cuz I dont believe in eternal damnation, but I view Dante's work as pure fiction with a theological twist.

  • i've read it and think the exact same if hell was real why would it be eternal that would make no sence if it was there at all it would be relative time

  • A Black Hole is an entrance to Hell. You do not want to go into one!

  • Some argue also that black holes might be gateways to the physical manifestation of /b/.

    Which is practically hell.

  • TO: fiveMIRrOrs

    I hope I never have to find out.

  • Yes, but most likely they're just singularities in space/time and helped in the formation of galaxies, keeping them together and in motion.

    And very very occasionally they're Disney films ;)

  • Considering that you'd be crushed to death by the intense gravity long before you even got close to the event horizon, that's fairly sound advice ;)

  • Yeah but back in the 70's they didn't know that.

  • Yeah they did.

  • Great observation ..

  • p.s.: Some unknown force within the black hole gave him what he wanted: immortality whilst the others were guided to safety through the black hole as they were simply and essentially good people who wanted to escape and survive. Very ambigious and Kubrick like but thats how I feel about it. However, the other take on Reinhart: punished to be trapped inside Maximillian for all eternity in Hell is also plausable and extremely Faustian....

  • You could interpret it as Reinhardt getting what he wanted: immortality. Durant in the film describes the black hole as 'Dantes Inferno'. It could be that he's been floating inside the hole for ages, i.e. his overgrown hair and beard and that he melded his head with Maximillians body (somehow!) to simply survive.

  • they made a scary version called Event Horizon

  • The 'Hell' sequence was incredibly brave for a Disney film.

    Nowadays it wouldn't get past the marketing people or focus groups.

  • @kitchenaut

    Yup and we can thank censorship for that.

  • The robots looking at the crew like "WHAT THE FUCK!? ARE YOU CRAZY!?"

  • woahhh...I feel like...dizzy, man...

  • I am still mildly amazed that a company could spend tens of millions of dollars on a film without knowing how it would end; and that after months of hard work they could not find a writer who could write an ending that made sense.

  • copy of R2D2 with eyes.

  • 'copy of R2D2 with eyes. '

    Still, Artoo is based on the robots in Silent Running, plus The Black Hole shits on the prequels.

  • The filmusikk sounds like alien`s score at the end

  • i like this ending. it left you thinking wow and wtf at the same time.

  • If only going thru a black hole where that easy!

    That last shot of the ship thru the hole, they must have been going light speed!

    If all that were real, I'm sure that probe ship would have had some external damage done to it on arrival to Earth, lol

  • i am dizzy

  • i had a dream once about the fall of the angels, and a black hole was what they fell into, it was 'the bottomless pit' of the bible. i wonder if that was what the film makers were suggesting?