Crowd member - Ian would you mind being quiet for about 30 minutes I cant here myself speak while your playing your crappy music with your Dog faced wife
I hate when people talk at shows continuously. I would be pissed off if people were talking at my show, I mean come on your watching Ian Mackaye of Minor Threat, The Teen Idles, and Fugazi.
haha honestly if your set can be drowned out by people talking, you need to turn your fucking amplifier up. and as for people being opposed to recording shows, that's just bullshit. i think if you're gonna perform you should encourage your fans to record you and share your performance.
@jasonlitherland That is an opinion (i cant really argue that its a bad one)(especially for promotion on your part) and alot of bands have other opnions. Maynard J. Keenan from tool doesnt allow cameras because he feels that it makes many feel un-easy. You're less in the moment because you realize you're somewaht under the scrutiny of the camera. I personally dont like being taped. Artists who taped themselves should tape themsleves and not the crowd. In my opninion.
@DuppyBruh i know all too well how awkward it can be to watch yourself back on a recording. but when you put yourself on a stage you're putting yourself out of control of everything except the instrument you're playing and the songs you're promoting with your presence. that's supposed to be the beauty of it, and if the music Ian's playing doesn't move him to do anything but gawk at the audience and tell em to put their phones away then he should stop pretending to be mellow. cause he's not.
If Ian tells you to be quite you fucking be quite. If he tells you to stop taping you stop taping. What the fuck were you doing at that show if you weren't going to respect the man.
Will the people on stage be quiet for about....forever. Gee ian, thats enough, we dont care anymore...we just came to get coffee and chat and shit, you're here. Wrecking our conversation with this scary talent of yours. Forget it guys, lets just go to a bar and get drunk, talk about our straight edge days...when music was actually good...first round's on me.
I can see getting upset with people talking (personally I could give a shit less, I play to get my ya-yas out. If you don't wanna listen, well you payed to get in so your problem not mine) but why the whining about taping? Maybe I'm just from a different generation or something.
no offense at all, i really dont care, but the girl on drums seriously looks like she's on heroin. and if i were in ians place i would let it go, simply because if i'm playing music that i care about and people arent interested enough to listen on their own because they want to, then i dont want those people listening to what i'm doing anyway because they won't respect it for what it is
Talking (loudly) during live shows almost literally makes me sick, I think the worst I've ever heard it was in live videos of Elliott Smith, I'm not sure if you know of him or not but a lot of times he played acoustic sets, he's playing the most beautiful songs you've ever heard and half the crowd is just fucking YAMMERING, non-stop. It's different if it's an open mic night or coffee house show or something, but to go to a concert to hear someone play and just talktalktalk, such disrespect.
seen fugazi live quite a few times and even some free shows they put on outside that were just phenomenally cool! But...there was one show where Ian got pissed and bitched the audience out. He kept stopping the song to tell the audience they weren't allowed to dance. I thought it was due to the terriblly unappreciative audience ignoring him....But THEN, my friend swore them off as he was kicked outta their show for dancing! Ian's a pioneer, and still does impressive things for his community but-
It seems like he was just in a bad mood. He was already pissed at the dumbasses in the back talking. Theyre are plenty of other videos of The Evens live. He doesnt do that every show.
i appreciate everything ian has done for music and in particular the city i live in. he's an institution. but he's an asshole and has always been. he doesn't give a shit.
this guy is a hugde dick id be like "suck me fuckin dick you fuckin cock ibought this video camera and i can do what the fuck i want to do with it..your lucky i dont shove it up your fuckin ass you bold fuck!!!"
Probably just in a bad mood. Nothing to make a huge fuss over.
I know some very awesome people in various bands who I've seen act like a dick when they are in a bad mood on stage, but all around they are very great people.
I agree with Ian. I love Fugazi and Minor Threat, and I don't think Ian's God, but I remember to the days where I did stand-up in high school, and I hated the fact that people were talking during my act. I'm not going to say that I did great, but I know the feeling of wanted to be respected. You paid for a show along with the people around you. Treat people how you would like to be treated. If you wouldn't want people talking or taping during your show, why would you do it to someone else?
i dont know cute album but its just not the direction DISCHORD should be going in right now if you ask me. more POSTMODERN MOD SKIN and PUNK entertainment less kick
I had a chance to meet Ian Mackaye back in 07 when the Evens came through. Definitely a nice guy ( even got a picture with him ), but I will admit he's a very intimidating individual from a far.
even if he was being a dick. let him be, just count the number of times you have acted in a way that you don't feel too good about now. he is just ian mackaye a musician, not god, he doesn't have to be perfect all the time.
dude, ive always thought thought ian mackaye was the shit and ive loved minor threat for yeeeears but, to all you kids who are trying to defend him, he was totally being an asshole
umm to people who want to talk while somke one is performing we rather you stay home if your at a show just to talk and get laid and drink your fucking boozes go to a party and put on a stereo and don't pay attention to the music there, but when you go to a music show it's usually to listen to some god damn music, I totally understand his attitude and I agree with the last comment when your in a band or have performed you know how it feels to be listening to peoples comments about their fb's
IT IS social event fuck that he aint my daddy if i wanna have a good time and talk and drink beer while a band his playing then why the fuck not this aint school where the teacher can shoosh me..FUCKING ROCK N ROLL
@txteabagger because people have paid to hear a band and not paid to hear you drink beer and talk ...is that so hard to comprehend. You wait ten years to hear your favourite band and some cunt spoils it by talking..is that cool???
@monkeygonetoheavensi you sound like you are attending a neil diamond concert .you probably stand with your arms crossed at the front of the stage sighlentley swaying .
Talking during shows is one of the most fucking annoying things you can do. For some people, they enjoy just listening to the music and connecting with it. It's not a god damn social event. This is grade school shit; If someone is presenting, you shut up and pay attention. If that doesn't fly with you, you can fucking leave. (I don't know why you'd come to a show to talk anyway, that just seems strange.)
@dirtyhandgesture it actually IS a social event and people like to make comments about the show as they see it to each other talking all over an acoustic set sux i get it if you r loud thru the whole set but it seemed ian wanted to cause a scene here.
at this venue near where i live there is a sign that says, word for word "SHUT UP no-one paid to listen to you talk to your pals. if you wan't to talk to your pals when the bands are on, PLEASE LEAVE THE VENUE"
You know what I hate (speaking as a performer in a bottom tier punk band and as a fan)? People in the audience who only show up to get piss drunk and slosh around in the pit and abuse the bands. Shows are supposed to be entertainment, yes, but we're not your personal fucking slaves, dancing jesters to amuse the lumpenproletariat. It would be rad to play a show - or to merely attend one - where there was more than a passing connection between fan and band. Point: I get where Ian's coming from.
i can get with the NOTION... but then I also think if you're gonna perform live you make certain concessions to your audience... not the least of which is vulnerability. I also think putting people on the spot by addressing people talking or videoing in this manner is just as rude as say TALKING during the performance. i dunno. ian does what he wants and wants things just so. he's a very grumpy/anxious man.
I'd have trouble disliking anything Ian does. seems like a nice chap, plus he has been involved with some mega mega mega schweet music. I remember seeing Fugazi when I was about 14 years old (1992), sitting on stage by Ian's feet with sweat pouring all over me. Still inspires me thinking back nearly 20 years! shiz
yeah... it's pretty much impossible to judge someone's reaction when all we see is like a 1:28 of footage. Who cares anyways this guy was apart of some pretty crazy ass music. Were all human
you're all a bunch of self-absorbed, narrow-minded, lemmings. i've filmed the evens twice and he's never said a word. ever think maybe he just had a bad night? nah can't be, he's too perfect, too self absorbed, THE self-proclaimed hero and savior of punk who's now just turned into a grumpy old man. lol @ taking 1:27 from a video taken 3 years ago and now turning against him. funny thing is, i'm 100% sure he doesn't give a shit. now THAT i can back.
@SammyMcwammy Her drumming is fine. She puts her drums through a reverb affect, which doesn't translate well onto a crappy video. Listen to the record.
And yeah if an artist says no taping, it's their call, legal or not. Why should you be able to give their performance away for free when they did the real work? Plus the audience probably paid to be there (I know, not cool that I'm sitting here watching it for free too...) But think about it, a professional musician is just that. They make their living from recordings and performances. If customers could come in to where you work at Wal Mart and take part of your pay you'd try to stop it too.
Anyone saying this girl can't keep time needs to listen closer. She's not perfectly in time with the delay effect but considering it's repeating her fills in addition to the 2 and 4, that would be hard to do. If you ignore the delay effect, her drumming is actually quite good. A drummer doesn't need to play in perfect time to have a good groove anyway, listen to John Bonham. If you think he played in perfect time, you're in no position to critique anybody's drumming.
"Would the people in the back mind being quiet for about 30 minutes because our band is the aural equivalent to wallpaper & WE'RE going to be quiet for about 30 minutes..."
ha ha, guess he didn't want that embarrassing moment to be taped period, because he knew eventually it would get out like it has. You did exactly what he didn't want you to do.
Just because he was Fugazi and Minor Threat and Embrace doesn't give him the right to tell people to shut up. If he told me to shut up I'd tell him to fuck off. Believe.
@Safetysnaith Stop being a fuckin baby. Wanna cry because he won't let you talk during his PERFORMANCE? Christ. . And he was trying to be as nice as he could about it. You can talk anywhere else than at the time. Who knows when he'll be in that venue again? Not saying The Evens are huge, but you ruin it for everyone.
@pukeoncops123 I wouldn't - he can barely play and this is some boring indie pop shit! Fugazi sucked it HARD as well! This clown hasn't done anything interesting in almost 30 years!
On a side note: i'm pretty sure anyone who would disagree with that statement would be the kind of individual who also doesn't understand the reasoning behind purchasing CD's and would rather rip music without paying for it... in which case, i don't have enough time or the energy in my fingers to lay it out more elaborately for you. odds are, if your'e an artist.. you get it. if you aren't.. you don't.
@minusthumbs well I'm an artist and I stand by my initial comment that to purport to be so holier than thou indie but then to act like this is pure hypocrisy, especially when he demands in such a superior looking down his nose manner. Maybe some people were at their local bar, minding their own business and didn't want Ian McKaye ruining their evening and being told to shut up? There's another POV.
as a musician and a fan of music i can completely understand both points of view.. the artists point of view is simple: there is no way to capture that moment or the way the music sounded in that room(especially with a camera 'some guy' brought from his house)without doing the music a disservice.. if the artist gives the OK thats a different story. i personally enjoy watching live performances of artists, but ultimately it should be up to the band/artist... respect their decision.
yeaaah... someone filming you because they love what you do and you tell them to stop is an asshole thing to do. i'm glad this is uploaded. lost some respect for him aswell.
@hendrixonlsd They filmed because they saw a youtube moment, not because they liked the songs. You see how they didn't put up any songs? He was embarrassed and didn't want the people to see him that way because most would think he was a dick. . Look what happened. This probably went on both before the guy started taping and after he stopped.
have you been in a band ? have you tried comunicating through music ? have you ever felt how strange and annoying it can be to feel someone is not listening with their mind and ears, but focusing in what the musician looks like, and making him feel self-conscious about that ?
not everyone feels good being in the spotlight. some of us want to just play and be listened. not recorded. not grasped down in images. just listened.
@miguelbaptista Yes I am in a band I make my living at being in a band, I tour and often play a lot of acoustic shows. Ian has been around long enough to know this is what you must deal with when you play acoustically. Watching this video I really think that this video best encapsulates what I hate about music and "the scene" Fuck Ian and this band really sucks, I liked Fugazi but this is horrible.
@miguelbaptista I strongly disagree, I loved Minor Threat and like Ian Mackaye but Its up to the musician to play music that will make the audience listen and WANT to shut up of their own accord...if you can't keep a crowd captivated by your music they will lose interest, plus they paid their money for it so it's pretty much their choice.
@miguelbaptista lol, who said these people were doing any of these things? if you have issues with being self-consious, you are in the wrong industry. Let people talk and have fun, and play your set. They were in the back of the room, not at the front of the stage... people are allowed to converse with one another..
@miguelbaptista naw, if people wanna take pictures or film, unless otherwise stated before hand, it is their right, Ian is just being a whiner. He allowed filming in the Minor Threat days, the Fugazi days and now all of a sudden he said it is not ok. People have a right to take pictures, and people have a right to film if they want. Let the fans have a keep sake of the events if they need be. Punk was about freedom, and rights to be yourself, not being a picture nazi.
@miguelbaptista futhermore filming is added promotion. it allowsyour music to be put out to place that would not be able to see it live, one of the biggest problems with punk is that most places will not have all ages shows, which singles out a lot of fans of the music, who are not able to be a part of it first hand cause they book them in clubs and bars that are 21+ in the USA. So I say filming allows those people to be able to be a part of something they would not be able to otherwise.
I was at a show where he did exactly this. I wasn't filming, just there to enjoy, but I film bands professionally & major artists obviously require clearance, but the thing that never rested with me since is exactly that 'grass roots' image McKaye puts over. He can be all soapbox DIY & put on the CD art for Dischord 'Don't pay more than $8' to stick it to a record store, yet wouldn't let some kid that loves what you do film it? Hard to reconcile. Shame I lost a little respect for him since then.
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Ian MacKaye is a fucking dipshit. You whiny little PC punks can go ahead and vote this comment down six times before you go to this nearest folk punk house show and leave early if kids start drinking and moshing.
Musical sucking is a matter of opinion. It's not grumpiness when people devote time and energy to see/hear a band and inconsiderate people ruin it for others. The volume of their band is great because you can actually hear their words, unlike 96% of rock shows that fuck it up by turning up to loud.
The majority of the people there probably came to listen to the evens play rather than listen to people in the back. Ian was being curteous to the people who actually went to see the band. If you cant respect a musicians wishes during a performance you should probably learn common decency.
i don't hate ian, he is a personal hero of mine and my biggest musical idol, but when he starts shit like this something has to be said. this is not musical compassion, this is a grumpy old man who need to get laid.
Exactly, what's the point of paying to see a band, ignoring them and then getting pissy about them being offended by you going all that way to the gig just to ignore them?
Yeah I agree with the camera thing to an extent, he does have the tendency to get annoyingly sanctimonious about how grass roots he is, but I do admire his courage to fight back against laws banning kids of a certain age from shows and stuff, his sincerity and willingness to actually act on & remain stay true his punk manifesto in a po tositive constructive way is surprisingly rare in most agenda-driven bands, even though he takes it all way too srsly. The camera thing was maybe...
...a step too far, but then again I've played on stage in bans with people filming and it can get really distracting and put you off, maybe it was more that than some sort of anti-gig-video-taping principle, and it just came out sounding rude because he was still all cranky from the people talking in the back. I'm not some Mackaye-die hard who wants to defend his every action, just a fellow musician who can somewhat sympathise. But yes you're right, to reiterate, he does take stuff too srsly.
Are you seriously hating on school teachers? Wtf? So you never went to school? You don't know how to do math, read, write, spell, etc.? Think twice before you type, dumb ass.
I can understand him not wanting people talking loudly .. it ruins the show for other people too.. but the taping? I don't really see how it affects anybody in a bad way.
I like Fugazi and what they stood for, but this is just silly.
what fame? he's known throughout the punk and straight edge communities. but fame? i wouldn't consider him to be famous. he's not on TMZ and he's not hounded by paparazzi man. he's just Ian.
not literally, i mean his music. it's no secret and it wasnt in the 80's underground punk scene. anyone who went to fucking show with minor threat knew who they were. maybe not everyone. thats not a bad thing.
Beta-est of the beta.
area43 2 days ago
"would you turn that video camera of please, fuck you" haha
shadylurker138 2 days ago
Crowd member - Ian would you mind being quiet for about 30 minutes I cant here myself speak while your playing your crappy music with your Dog faced wife
LiberlismIsALie 4 days ago
The music is super light, so everyone has to shut up to hear it. And I guess he doesn't like being filmed.
GoatMaggot07 1 week ago
where's the hardcore Ian??
JohnnyOTZ 1 week ago
I hate when people talk at shows continuously. I would be pissed off if people were talking at my show, I mean come on your watching Ian Mackaye of Minor Threat, The Teen Idles, and Fugazi.
Shutteroos 3 weeks ago
he should smoke some pot to relax HAHA!
isidro19890 1 month ago
lol WTF happened to this guy to make him suck so bad now?
eddWyrd 1 month ago
what a controlfreak
chewingtinfoil001 1 month ago
haha honestly if your set can be drowned out by people talking, you need to turn your fucking amplifier up. and as for people being opposed to recording shows, that's just bullshit. i think if you're gonna perform you should encourage your fans to record you and share your performance.
jasonlitherland 1 month ago
@jasonlitherland That is an opinion (i cant really argue that its a bad one)(especially for promotion on your part) and alot of bands have other opnions. Maynard J. Keenan from tool doesnt allow cameras because he feels that it makes many feel un-easy. You're less in the moment because you realize you're somewaht under the scrutiny of the camera. I personally dont like being taped. Artists who taped themselves should tape themsleves and not the crowd. In my opninion.
DuppyBruh 1 month ago
@DuppyBruh i know all too well how awkward it can be to watch yourself back on a recording. but when you put yourself on a stage you're putting yourself out of control of everything except the instrument you're playing and the songs you're promoting with your presence. that's supposed to be the beauty of it, and if the music Ian's playing doesn't move him to do anything but gawk at the audience and tell em to put their phones away then he should stop pretending to be mellow. cause he's not.
jasonlitherland 4 weeks ago
what is this guys dea? relax haha
kcgoodwin19 1 month ago
you know your music must be exciting when people can talk louder than your music
berbobloo 1 month ago
Loved Fugazi from when I was a teenager. What is this song? It sounds great
PlazaMoon 1 month ago
@PlazaMoon It's Ian's new(er) band called the Evens. WAY different from Fugazi but still good in it's own rite.
DrFonzo 2 weeks ago
If Ian tells you to be quite you fucking be quite. If he tells you to stop taping you stop taping. What the fuck were you doing at that show if you weren't going to respect the man.
jek21 1 month ago
Intense drumming.
Gorgosaure 1 month ago
He has a right to tell them to shut up. You don't go to a music performance/concert to talk, you go there to listen, watch, or dance.
DrugStabbingTime 1 month ago 4
Will the people on stage be quiet for about....forever. Gee ian, thats enough, we dont care anymore...we just came to get coffee and chat and shit, you're here. Wrecking our conversation with this scary talent of yours. Forget it guys, lets just go to a bar and get drunk, talk about our straight edge days...when music was actually good...first round's on me.
tbarragan29 2 months ago
everyone hush so you don't mess up my boring ass music.
haam 2 months ago 2
ahhahahaha thats the best ending ever.
Don't quite know why it was so offensive-perhaps Ian thought "Hey this kid might sell it" but....
deathbypowerglove 2 months ago
I can see getting upset with people talking (personally I could give a shit less, I play to get my ya-yas out. If you don't wanna listen, well you payed to get in so your problem not mine) but why the whining about taping? Maybe I'm just from a different generation or something.
myguitardidyermom12 3 months ago
I say you're totally missing the point. I say that sucks for you.
igotgearigotgear 3 months ago
no offense at all, i really dont care, but the girl on drums seriously looks like she's on heroin. and if i were in ians place i would let it go, simply because if i'm playing music that i care about and people arent interested enough to listen on their own because they want to, then i dont want those people listening to what i'm doing anyway because they won't respect it for what it is
MattyCreed 3 months ago
maybe people would shut up if ian still played fucking hardcore
grinhousekiller 3 months ago
Awesome!!!
10Hours1Minute 3 months ago
this sucks don't blame them for taking. she can't even keep the beat if that's what she is trying to do.
003937 3 months ago
does he know that hes not that good?
pippigladstone 3 months ago
wow ian, fucking take a chill pill
dvzqz87 3 months ago 2
this is why i enjoy stealing his music
yyy333 4 months ago 6
what asshole would talk through this show.
ifartlestonu 5 months ago
Talking (loudly) during live shows almost literally makes me sick, I think the worst I've ever heard it was in live videos of Elliott Smith, I'm not sure if you know of him or not but a lot of times he played acoustic sets, he's playing the most beautiful songs you've ever heard and half the crowd is just fucking YAMMERING, non-stop. It's different if it's an open mic night or coffee house show or something, but to go to a concert to hear someone play and just talktalktalk, such disrespect.
angryhobo212 5 months ago
@angryhobo212 i know it. i am familiar with him.
ifartlestonu 5 months ago
seen fugazi live quite a few times and even some free shows they put on outside that were just phenomenally cool! But...there was one show where Ian got pissed and bitched the audience out. He kept stopping the song to tell the audience they weren't allowed to dance. I thought it was due to the terriblly unappreciative audience ignoring him....But THEN, my friend swore them off as he was kicked outta their show for dancing! Ian's a pioneer, and still does impressive things for his community but-
PatBProductions 5 months ago
hey at least he didnt go all michael richards on their asses
heavyminded09 5 months ago 2
People calling him a dick should realize that there's no context and none of us know what happened before and after.
straightedge442 5 months ago 2
It seems like he was just in a bad mood. He was already pissed at the dumbasses in the back talking. Theyre are plenty of other videos of The Evens live. He doesnt do that every show.
yYourFami1y 5 months ago
i appreciate everything ian has done for music and in particular the city i live in. he's an institution. but he's an asshole and has always been. he doesn't give a shit.
abitterrevival 5 months ago
This was not in a "show space" but rather a vegetarian cafe. People were there that were trying to just eat dinner.
xsteevox 6 months ago
this guy is a hugde dick id be like "suck me fuckin dick you fuckin cock ibought this video camera and i can do what the fuck i want to do with it..your lucky i dont shove it up your fuckin ass you bold fuck!!!"
logansdrums 6 months ago
@logansdrums You don't know why he asked to have the camera turned off, best just show some respect just as the person who filmed this did.
LaterzMcGhee 5 months ago
Probably just in a bad mood. Nothing to make a huge fuss over.
I know some very awesome people in various bands who I've seen act like a dick when they are in a bad mood on stage, but all around they are very great people.
rixclipz 6 months ago
Why would he want them to stop taping?
revived0103 7 months ago
What song is this?
BrutalizeURf4ce 7 months ago
@BrutalizeURf4ce "Shelter Two"
daviddowns81 7 months ago
@daviddowns81 Thanks
BrutalizeURf4ce 7 months ago
ian would have been better served, and his image would have been less tarnished if he had let them talk. this shit is garbage
dmbbf5 7 months ago
I agree with Ian. I love Fugazi and Minor Threat, and I don't think Ian's God, but I remember to the days where I did stand-up in high school, and I hated the fact that people were talking during my act. I'm not going to say that I did great, but I know the feeling of wanted to be respected. You paid for a show along with the people around you. Treat people how you would like to be treated. If you wouldn't want people talking or taping during your show, why would you do it to someone else?
JackBNimbleify 8 months ago
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i dont know cute album but its just not the direction DISCHORD should be going in right now if you ask me. more POSTMODERN MOD SKIN and PUNK entertainment less kick
mediattackrecords 8 months ago
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mediattackrecords 8 months ago
I thought the song was good and figured the people were being rude. *shrugs*
alexanderj1986 9 months ago
I had a chance to meet Ian Mackaye back in 07 when the Evens came through. Definitely a nice guy ( even got a picture with him ), but I will admit he's a very intimidating individual from a far.
Tandaradei100 9 months ago
even if he was being a dick. let him be, just count the number of times you have acted in a way that you don't feel too good about now. he is just ian mackaye a musician, not god, he doesn't have to be perfect all the time.
radioclash84 9 months ago
dude, ive always thought thought ian mackaye was the shit and ive loved minor threat for yeeeears but, to all you kids who are trying to defend him, he was totally being an asshole
joshbernardy 10 months ago
That drummer chick doesnt look happy
Soundgardener80 10 months ago
drummers ok i think, theres wierd delay on her setup maybe.
n00bBalance 10 months ago
@n00bBalance Dunno man.... i've played drums for 13 years I noticed her mistakes instantly
Soundgardener80 10 months ago
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AttemptedNova 10 months ago
umm to people who want to talk while somke one is performing we rather you stay home if your at a show just to talk and get laid and drink your fucking boozes go to a party and put on a stereo and don't pay attention to the music there, but when you go to a music show it's usually to listen to some god damn music, I totally understand his attitude and I agree with the last comment when your in a band or have performed you know how it feels to be listening to peoples comments about their fb's
gregsageisdead 10 months ago
IT IS social event fuck that he aint my daddy if i wanna have a good time and talk and drink beer while a band his playing then why the fuck not this aint school where the teacher can shoosh me..FUCKING ROCK N ROLL
txteabagger 10 months ago
@txteabagger because people have paid to hear a band and not paid to hear you drink beer and talk ...is that so hard to comprehend. You wait ten years to hear your favourite band and some cunt spoils it by talking..is that cool???
monkeygonetoheavensi 10 months ago
@monkeygonetoheavensi you sound like you are attending a neil diamond concert .you probably stand with your arms crossed at the front of the stage sighlentley swaying .
txteabagger 10 months ago
I'm going to pretend this doesn't suck ass because I'm a Fugazi and Black Flag fan.
bucktoofus 10 months ago
@bucktoofus he wasnt in black flag
txteabagger 10 months ago
what song is this
really nice and mellow
aztecasteve 11 months ago
Drummer is off.
TheILLTechnics 11 months ago
Talking during shows is one of the most fucking annoying things you can do. For some people, they enjoy just listening to the music and connecting with it. It's not a god damn social event. This is grade school shit; If someone is presenting, you shut up and pay attention. If that doesn't fly with you, you can fucking leave. (I don't know why you'd come to a show to talk anyway, that just seems strange.)
dirtyhandgesture 11 months ago
@dirtyhandgesture it actually IS a social event and people like to make comments about the show as they see it to each other talking all over an acoustic set sux i get it if you r loud thru the whole set but it seemed ian wanted to cause a scene here.
txteabagger 10 months ago
This music sucks shit
yepthatsjoesoundsgoo 11 months ago
ppl can and if they want they should talk at shows and fuckin documenting it is a great thing!! , ian gotta chill cuz thats a shitty attitude
IN MY OPINION OF COURSE
amital 1 year ago
at this venue near where i live there is a sign that says, word for word "SHUT UP no-one paid to listen to you talk to your pals. if you wan't to talk to your pals when the bands are on, PLEASE LEAVE THE VENUE"
sunchild90 1 year ago 8
You know what I hate (speaking as a performer in a bottom tier punk band and as a fan)? People in the audience who only show up to get piss drunk and slosh around in the pit and abuse the bands. Shows are supposed to be entertainment, yes, but we're not your personal fucking slaves, dancing jesters to amuse the lumpenproletariat. It would be rad to play a show - or to merely attend one - where there was more than a passing connection between fan and band. Point: I get where Ian's coming from.
thultner 1 year ago 6
@thultner If you were better that might not happen.
ThemeForAJackal138 2 months ago
@ThemeForAJackal138 cute
thultner 2 months ago
i also have to say i find The Evens exceptionally boring.
bringthatbeatback 1 year ago 3
i can get with the NOTION... but then I also think if you're gonna perform live you make certain concessions to your audience... not the least of which is vulnerability. I also think putting people on the spot by addressing people talking or videoing in this manner is just as rude as say TALKING during the performance. i dunno. ian does what he wants and wants things just so. he's a very grumpy/anxious man.
bringthatbeatback 1 year ago
I'd have trouble disliking anything Ian does. seems like a nice chap, plus he has been involved with some mega mega mega schweet music. I remember seeing Fugazi when I was about 14 years old (1992), sitting on stage by Ian's feet with sweat pouring all over me. Still inspires me thinking back nearly 20 years! shiz
EvLoutonian 1 year ago
If I was one of "the people in the back" I would have hurled a brick at Ian Macakye
and told him to stop playing crappy gay music and reunite minor threat
CoolWhippedNegro 1 year ago
@CoolWhippedNegro Ian is allowed to be a person. He can make whatever music he wants to. Deal with it.
Ad if you hurl a brick then you would most likely get tackled and beaten up. Which would amuse me.
8BitStranger 1 year ago 2
yeah... it's pretty much impossible to judge someone's reaction when all we see is like a 1:28 of footage. Who cares anyways this guy was apart of some pretty crazy ass music. Were all human
spruceshark 1 year ago
WOULD THE PEOPLE ON STAGE ... MIND PLAYING SOMETHING WORTH A DAMN ... FOR ABOUT THIRTY MINUTES!!
Jesus what a douche....
AttemptedNova 1 year ago
ian maybe got sick of telling people in the front how to be, time to give shit to the people in the back
Dredefecto 1 year ago
you're all a bunch of self-absorbed, narrow-minded, lemmings. i've filmed the evens twice and he's never said a word. ever think maybe he just had a bad night? nah can't be, he's too perfect, too self absorbed, THE self-proclaimed hero and savior of punk who's now just turned into a grumpy old man. lol @ taking 1:27 from a video taken 3 years ago and now turning against him. funny thing is, i'm 100% sure he doesn't give a shit. now THAT i can back.
mdc848 1 year ago
WOW! poor ass drumming! ouch!
SammyMcwammy 1 year ago
@SammyMcwammy Her drumming is fine. She puts her drums through a reverb affect, which doesn't translate well onto a crappy video. Listen to the record.
tpwst5 1 year ago
and I will say that this band is one of the worst things I have heard in some time I am surprised it is coming from Ian he usually does great things.
starkweather444 1 year ago
Ian became the cranky old man here lmao.
Except I hate it when you go to shows and can't hear because of the hater's yelling and 15 year old girls screaming about tit signing
Its stupid. Crowd interaction is great but not the way its done most of the time
deathbypowerglove 1 year ago
he acts like the employe of a 7-11 when the kids from the hood are messing around
sesper 1 year ago 4
@sesper
lol
thats funny and so true.
all Ian needs is a an indian accent.
CoolWhippedNegro 1 year ago
And yeah if an artist says no taping, it's their call, legal or not. Why should you be able to give their performance away for free when they did the real work? Plus the audience probably paid to be there (I know, not cool that I'm sitting here watching it for free too...) But think about it, a professional musician is just that. They make their living from recordings and performances. If customers could come in to where you work at Wal Mart and take part of your pay you'd try to stop it too.
jacksandfives 1 year ago 4
Anyone saying this girl can't keep time needs to listen closer. She's not perfectly in time with the delay effect but considering it's repeating her fills in addition to the 2 and 4, that would be hard to do. If you ignore the delay effect, her drumming is actually quite good. A drummer doesn't need to play in perfect time to have a good groove anyway, listen to John Bonham. If you think he played in perfect time, you're in no position to critique anybody's drumming.
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jacksandfives 1 year ago
its all down hill from here
QuadropheniaBrosef 1 year ago
People should shut up anyways, once they realize this is Ian.
deathbypowerglove 1 year ago 5
"Would the people in the back mind being quiet for about 30 minutes because our band is the aural equivalent to wallpaper & WE'RE going to be quiet for about 30 minutes..."
jackshaw 1 year ago
@jackshaw
I don't get it...
InsideYoFeebleBrain 1 year ago
@InsideYoFeebleBrain I KNOW! Why won't they just get live & drown those pricks out? I don't get it either.
jackshaw 1 year ago
i love how when ian tells you to turn it off, YOU TURN THE MOTHERFUCKER OFF
justiniscoolohyea 1 year ago 4
Oh, about the youtube moment thing, whoops
ha ha, guess he didn't want that embarrassing moment to be taped period, because he knew eventually it would get out like it has. You did exactly what he didn't want you to do.
RawwestHide 1 year ago
sweet Danelectro...
FNTM3rd 1 year ago
Just because he was Fugazi and Minor Threat and Embrace doesn't give him the right to tell people to shut up. If he told me to shut up I'd tell him to fuck off. Believe.
Safetysnaith 1 year ago
@Safetysnaith that's because you are an asshole, apparently. Don't go to live music performances, if you want to run your mouth...go outside.
FNTM3rd 1 year ago
@FNTM3rd Get fucked.
Safetysnaith 1 year ago
@Safetysnaith wow, dude--such an intelligent reply...I feel so 'put in my place'.
Whatever, punk---you are just PROVING yrself to be an asshole, so keep on...
FNTM3rd 1 year ago
@Safetysnaith Stop being a fuckin baby. Wanna cry because he won't let you talk during his PERFORMANCE? Christ. . And he was trying to be as nice as he could about it. You can talk anywhere else than at the time. Who knows when he'll be in that venue again? Not saying The Evens are huge, but you ruin it for everyone.
RawwestHide 1 year ago
@RawwestHide You can get fucked too.
Safetysnaith 1 year ago
Who the FUCK wouldn't be paying attention to Ian Mckaye?
pukeoncops123 1 year ago 58
@pukeoncops123 thats should be common sence mate
AtomicSpaceRitual777 1 year ago
@pukeoncops123 I wouldn't - he can barely play and this is some boring indie pop shit! Fugazi sucked it HARD as well! This clown hasn't done anything interesting in almost 30 years!
danodono 9 months ago
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xalstarx 5 months ago
did he said thank you of fuck you at the end? :D
RepeaterMan 1 year ago
i hate when people go to shows and just sit in the back and talk. it defeats the purpose of even going.
PissGeneration 1 year ago 25
@PissGeneration because there's no room at the front. They just want you to think there is, so we stopped looking. why?
musikinLA 3 months ago
Still go that punk in him. Still yelling, it sticks with you forever... never goes away.
VileRottenVideos 1 year ago
the fuck was with that drummer? she kept falling off the beat
dumb14wanker 1 year ago
@dumb14wanker she had an a delay or echoing effect on....multiples on a single hit
RepeaterMan 1 year ago
hahaha. no taping! jesus ian what the hell?
phideauxiii 1 year ago
wht the fuck is this?????? ian were you feeling ok that day
oldschoolpunkchris1 1 year ago
I Ian had too much to drink before this gig, thats why he was straight edge..couldn't handle it!
This band really suck...maybe he doesn't want this shit getting out cos he knows its crap....
keilan303 1 year ago 2
Coooolll!
metalslut1 1 year ago
Asshole.
ManSwamp71 1 year ago
On a side note: i'm pretty sure anyone who would disagree with that statement would be the kind of individual who also doesn't understand the reasoning behind purchasing CD's and would rather rip music without paying for it... in which case, i don't have enough time or the energy in my fingers to lay it out more elaborately for you. odds are, if your'e an artist.. you get it. if you aren't.. you don't.
minusthumbs 1 year ago 2
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@minusthumbs well I'm an artist and I stand by my initial comment that to purport to be so holier than thou indie but then to act like this is pure hypocrisy, especially when he demands in such a superior looking down his nose manner. Maybe some people were at their local bar, minding their own business and didn't want Ian McKaye ruining their evening and being told to shut up? There's another POV.
appleballcar 1 year ago
as a musician and a fan of music i can completely understand both points of view.. the artists point of view is simple: there is no way to capture that moment or the way the music sounded in that room(especially with a camera 'some guy' brought from his house)without doing the music a disservice.. if the artist gives the OK thats a different story. i personally enjoy watching live performances of artists, but ultimately it should be up to the band/artist... respect their decision.
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appleballcar 1 year ago
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whenever you add/or collaborate with a woman, it's a big mistake. she sucks.
nightmarefacility 1 year ago
yeaaah... someone filming you because they love what you do and you tell them to stop is an asshole thing to do. i'm glad this is uploaded. lost some respect for him aswell.
hendrixonlsd 1 year ago
@hendrixonlsd They filmed because they saw a youtube moment, not because they liked the songs. You see how they didn't put up any songs? He was embarrassed and didn't want the people to see him that way because most would think he was a dick. . Look what happened. This probably went on both before the guy started taping and after he stopped.
RawwestHide 1 year ago
sick drums.
TRVKVLTSATAN 1 year ago
I'll be quiet when you start playing something worth listening to.
musicajuro 1 year ago 2
@musicajuro hah hah
nightmarefacility 1 year ago
what did he say after you turned off the camera and the song ended?
kissFAN1619 1 year ago
hahahahah Ian Mackaye is the man.
kidynamitee 1 year ago
To all the people complaining:
have you been in a band ? have you tried comunicating through music ? have you ever felt how strange and annoying it can be to feel someone is not listening with their mind and ears, but focusing in what the musician looks like, and making him feel self-conscious about that ?
not everyone feels good being in the spotlight. some of us want to just play and be listened. not recorded. not grasped down in images. just listened.
that is how i feel. take care.
miguelbaptista 1 year ago 40
i wouldn't mind if the females in the crowd were focusing on how i looked because in the end it means i get blow jobs and pussy.
rockabillysilly 1 year ago
@rockabillysilly ugh....you're an idiot
RawwestHide 1 year ago
@miguelbaptista Yes I am in a band I make my living at being in a band, I tour and often play a lot of acoustic shows. Ian has been around long enough to know this is what you must deal with when you play acoustically. Watching this video I really think that this video best encapsulates what I hate about music and "the scene" Fuck Ian and this band really sucks, I liked Fugazi but this is horrible.
starkweather444 1 year ago
@miguelbaptista I strongly disagree, I loved Minor Threat and like Ian Mackaye but Its up to the musician to play music that will make the audience listen and WANT to shut up of their own accord...if you can't keep a crowd captivated by your music they will lose interest, plus they paid their money for it so it's pretty much their choice.
Soundgardener80 10 months ago
@miguelbaptista blah, blah, blah....
danodono 9 months ago
@miguelbaptista lol, who said these people were doing any of these things? if you have issues with being self-consious, you are in the wrong industry. Let people talk and have fun, and play your set. They were in the back of the room, not at the front of the stage... people are allowed to converse with one another..
daviddowns81 7 months ago
@daviddowns81
Ian, and myself, are speaking about taking pictures and filming. So yes, we are in the right industry, its music, not modelling.
miguelbaptista 7 months ago
@miguelbaptista naw, if people wanna take pictures or film, unless otherwise stated before hand, it is their right, Ian is just being a whiner. He allowed filming in the Minor Threat days, the Fugazi days and now all of a sudden he said it is not ok. People have a right to take pictures, and people have a right to film if they want. Let the fans have a keep sake of the events if they need be. Punk was about freedom, and rights to be yourself, not being a picture nazi.
daviddowns81 7 months ago
@miguelbaptista futhermore filming is added promotion. it allowsyour music to be put out to place that would not be able to see it live, one of the biggest problems with punk is that most places will not have all ages shows, which singles out a lot of fans of the music, who are not able to be a part of it first hand cause they book them in clubs and bars that are 21+ in the USA. So I say filming allows those people to be able to be a part of something they would not be able to otherwise.
daviddowns81 7 months ago
he shoulda been like "may I ask WHY??"
etipp283 2 years ago
fuck yeah!
rockabillysilly 1 year ago
I was at a show where he did exactly this. I wasn't filming, just there to enjoy, but I film bands professionally & major artists obviously require clearance, but the thing that never rested with me since is exactly that 'grass roots' image McKaye puts over. He can be all soapbox DIY & put on the CD art for Dischord 'Don't pay more than $8' to stick it to a record store, yet wouldn't let some kid that loves what you do film it? Hard to reconcile. Shame I lost a little respect for him since then.
appleballcar 2 years ago 4
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Ian MacKaye is a fucking dipshit. You whiny little PC punks can go ahead and vote this comment down six times before you go to this nearest folk punk house show and leave early if kids start drinking and moshing.
thecodeisred 2 years ago
uh yea you can fuck off, thecodeisred
lokrat2 2 years ago
would you turn that video camera off please? Fuck you. Ian, what was the point of that.
lokrat2 2 years ago
Musical sucking is a matter of opinion. It's not grumpiness when people devote time and energy to see/hear a band and inconsiderate people ruin it for others. The volume of their band is great because you can actually hear their words, unlike 96% of rock shows that fuck it up by turning up to loud.
zorlaf883 2 years ago 3
my god people, where is the testosterone?
WeeRossJ 2 years ago
PLUS, this music sucks anyway, i don't know what he is doing.
WeeRossJ 2 years ago
Then start your own band and sing about it.
deadlyrhythm 2 years ago 3
touche
WeeRossJ 2 years ago
The majority of the people there probably came to listen to the evens play rather than listen to people in the back. Ian was being curteous to the people who actually went to see the band. If you cant respect a musicians wishes during a performance you should probably learn common decency.
zorlaf883 2 years ago
Why would you bother going out to a show if you want to have a discussion? Seems like you could find a quieter place.
And, sadly Ian must still be a school teacher...for showgoing retards.(No offense meant to the mentally disabled.)
rpaxton1974 2 years ago
if he couldnt hear then he should have played louder,
fucking school teacher.
WeeRossJ 2 years ago
dont hate on ian, he started the straight edge movement, and if u go to a show, arent u there for the music?
fresh098 2 years ago
@fresh 098
i don't hate ian, he is a personal hero of mine and my biggest musical idol, but when he starts shit like this something has to be said. this is not musical compassion, this is a grumpy old man who need to get laid.
WeeRossJ 2 years ago
Exactly, what's the point of paying to see a band, ignoring them and then getting pissy about them being offended by you going all that way to the gig just to ignore them?
nwcrouch 2 years ago
ya ik
fresh098 2 years ago
@nwcrouch Agreed but the camera thing was just dumb. Mackaye has a better than you additude that pisses me off.
halifuckinfan 2 years ago
Yeah I agree with the camera thing to an extent, he does have the tendency to get annoyingly sanctimonious about how grass roots he is, but I do admire his courage to fight back against laws banning kids of a certain age from shows and stuff, his sincerity and willingness to actually act on & remain stay true his punk manifesto in a po tositive constructive way is surprisingly rare in most agenda-driven bands, even though he takes it all way too srsly. The camera thing was maybe...
nwcrouch 2 years ago
...a step too far, but then again I've played on stage in bans with people filming and it can get really distracting and put you off, maybe it was more that than some sort of anti-gig-video-taping principle, and it just came out sounding rude because he was still all cranky from the people talking in the back. I'm not some Mackaye-die hard who wants to defend his every action, just a fellow musician who can somewhat sympathise. But yes you're right, to reiterate, he does take stuff too srsly.
nwcrouch 2 years ago
@nwcrouch agreed.
morningstoner666 1 year ago
He was being considerate to the people who wanted to listen to the music.
lokrat2 2 years ago 2
Are you seriously hating on school teachers? Wtf? So you never went to school? You don't know how to do math, read, write, spell, etc.? Think twice before you type, dumb ass.
SeanSisco 2 years ago
Lame
Savedleech 2 years ago
MINOR THREAT
nick8874 2 years ago
I can understand him not wanting people talking loudly .. it ruins the show for other people too.. but the taping? I don't really see how it affects anybody in a bad way.
I like Fugazi and what they stood for, but this is just silly.
Calosu 2 years ago
drumming was out of time anyway fuck it... sounded horrible
zZoiks 2 years ago 3
All these complaints mean shit - people that talk at shows should go away.
jsb43 2 years ago 2
This guy is a pussy
critter11111 2 years ago
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ian totally fucking went soft and ignorant. his teen years were his claim to fame really.
Ollie5400 2 years ago
what fame? he's known throughout the punk and straight edge communities. but fame? i wouldn't consider him to be famous. he's not on TMZ and he's not hounded by paparazzi man. he's just Ian.
Pausize 2 years ago
not literally, i mean his music. it's no secret and it wasnt in the 80's underground punk scene. anyone who went to fucking show with minor threat knew who they were. maybe not everyone. thats not a bad thing.
Ollie5400 2 years ago