They are not homeowners. They are lessees. They are tenants of property owned by somebody else. If I own my own property, I can keep pets, I can have kids, I can have as many other people live in my own property as I want (barring health code violations) as I want.
But if I rent from somebody else, the "property owner" gets to decide the terms of my residency. Kids? Pets? Guns? My property -- up to me. His property -- up to him.
I don't like the terms -- I get to go somewhere else.
"Our Property" Ms. Water's? You think you, the Congress, own Federal property? NO, the citizenry of the United States owns all federal property, as it is purchased an maintained with our tax dollars; as such, all rules which govern said property are bound to the Constitution.
@cook119 You really thin Waters used the possessive pronoun 'our' in the context of the American citizenry? No, public housing authorities are not like public parks, they are nothing more than entitlements that the government administrates. Congress represents the public; but the very purpose of the Constitution is to limit the power of Congress. Unlike privately owned businesses, Federally owned entities must abide by the Constitution; the 2nd Amendment is an inalienable right.
@RebelWrestler45 Well put point. If only more people told congress about the constitution when they passed laws effectively getting rid of habeas corpus. I would imagine there a lot of lawyers who would have something to say about what you just said but your probably right, its just a shame it leads to so many people being killed and shit lives.
It's not about whether they got their guns legally or illegally. The point is that the government, who owns the public housing, reserves the right to evict individuals discovered with firearms - which would act as a deterrent for those who care about continuing to live in their homes. Whether they get the guns legally or illegally is irrelevant, the point is do discourage them from possessing guns no matter how they come about.
@RebelWrestler45 Well, maybe they should scrap the 2nd amendment. The problem is that Bachman is taking a principled approach to the issue as opposed to a pragmatic approach - it's sort of like biblical literalists who only stick to what was written but don't assess the writing for its effects. I wonder, had the founding fathers known the problems that would arise from the 2nd ammendment in the face of urbanization, if they would have supported the ammendment in the first place.
@HappyColouredMarbles The right to self defense is an inalienable natural right; it is a preexisting right that the Constitution protects, it is not a right which originates from government. If the government takes away the means to self defense, by proxy it removes the right alltogether. Natural rights are never a matter of pragmatism. Surely it would be more utilitarian to scrap the 4th Amendment; but then you have sacrificed freedom, for the promise of safety.
@RebelWrestler45 Well, I have to disagree with you there. "Natural laws" are based on a conception of nature that likely never existed. Not to mention that many contemporary societies that ban guns used for the sole purpose of defending oneself (or in otherwords, to kill others) have far less gun violence than the USA. You don't hear major protests in Canada about natural rights being violated because people can't legally own handguns, but you do see a much safer society.
@HappyColouredMarbles Here we have a classic example of fallaciously ascribing causation to mere correlation. There are thousands of demonstrably influential variables; from income disparity and social inequality, to illegal immigration and gang problems, to the criminalization of drugs that increase murder rates.To understand natural law, read Locke's 2nd Treatise of Government and Hobbe's Leviathan; natural law is not based on a false conception of nature.
@RebelWrestler45 I have read Locke and Hobbes, and I don't find them convincing. The premise is important in the arguments they make - Locke draws natural law from the state of nature that he sets out at the beginning of his treatise. I stand by my opinion to reject the Hobbesian thought experiment as the state of nature. Now you do have a good point that other factors impact violence than just weapons themselves, but I still disagree that owning guns is a natural right.
@HappyColouredMarbles I too reject Hobbes' thought experiment; as it creates a false hypothetical, but it is still illuminating. I would define 'natural rights' in the Lockean sense; life, liberty, and property. The application of this in society is a balance b/w natural rights and societal obligation; wherein the exercise of one's freedom stops at the point where another's natural rights are violated. The defense of one's life, liberty, and property is a natural right.
@TheWinepusher It would increase public housing safety. As someone who lives in a large city with public housing downtown, I can tell you it would help. If I'm ever near the projects at night, even during the day, every few hours there's a shot fired.
@freakylocz14 It isn't a question of legality, the fact that guns are in circulation means they are easy to come by, both legally and illegally. Most likely, someone buys the guns from someone who DID attain them legally. Or they could have just gotten a license themselves considering you just have to sit in a class for a few days and you can buy one legally.
@freakylocz14 If some one living in the projects had enough money to smuggle guns from out of the country, they wouldn't be living in the projects...If guns were taken off the market for the public, the only way to get them would be very expensive deals from out of the country, which most small time criminals couldn't afford.
@bachthoven1685 Have you ever lived in very poor areas like I have? The guns are provided by the drug lords to their foot soldiers. Organized crime is organized, after all. Allowing law-abiding citizens to even the playing fields in public housing is positive.
You Americans really love your little guns don't you, what are you ? A bunch of pussies ? Oh no ! my gun ! please don't take my little gunny I'm affraid !!!
Hello my name is Robert Fartflame and I support Michele Bachmann, I believe that Mexicans should not be alowed to wear pants and black people should all buy a white dog with no socks, I am completly fucked up in the head just like Bachmann that is why I like her.
this is the problem with the democrats: yes, waters has a point that public housing has more than it's share of violence and gangs, but she is dead wrong thinking that is the reason why anyone should have their constitutional rights taken away in an effort to "solve" the problem. how many problems have dems "solved" by restricting rights and giving entitlements? now how many have they created?
@whereismyIQgoing no they used muskets and there was no law enforcement put in place but speraticaly across the americas little did they realise that these repukelican shmucks would use it to ensite terroristic acts in modern times. I say if average people want the right to bare arms and throw the second amendment into this then you can as long as its a musket the requires a ball and shoving gun powder down the barrel to laod it and not an AK47 or automatic weapon. You can escape a musket.
@thomaserossi Not particularly, possesing a firearm is frowned upon worldwide and only Americans seems to think that guns are needed to protect themselves (from who I don't know). Also why are you calling me indoctrinated when you:
a) Follow a religion
b) Follow the US constitution by the letter (even though as the guy just said back then they were talking about muskets not AK47s)
c) You actually believe that all Muslims are terrorists just because of one stupid quote in the Qa'aran.
well, that's just silly. The landlord owns the buildings and makes the rules. If you don't like his rules, don't live there. Sometimes, to solve a problem ya gotta compromise a bit.
I hate Michele Bachmann, but she has a point here, and makes it with some competence. Now, I've seen a lot of Section 8 housing, and I think it would be best if there were no firearms in these places (thinking condo/apartment style housing here), but these people are citizens and are entitled to their rights. The Government is engaged in all sorts of nonsense limiting or restricting people's rights. You either have to resist it all, or not at all. It is a constitutional right.
@dieinafirenrot ....of course I sympathize with Maxine Waters' point. But ultimately you need to find another way. I think the government SHOULD be in the business of providing this housing (although much section 8 is not 'owned' by the government), and providing other forms of welfare, but the government should not be making this money conditional on the recipient giving up their rights. I am uncomfortable, even, with conditions beyond rights.
As crazy as Michelle Bachmann is, I totally agree with her on this. It's bull shit that you get your rights stripped for living in public housing. You guys are justifying that. Most guns that kill people are illegally purchased which is why it's so hard to solve murders these days, if half of those guns were registered and tied to somebody this world would be a lot safer, trust that. I don't agree with Michelle 99% of the time but I'm all for peoples rights, and poor people should get the same.
Whoopee! So the big deal is "waah, waah, I deserve a gun if I license and register properly, Whyy can't I have a gun like everyone else . This is the demand. When I hear this I feel sick. My 35 yr old son was murdered by a miserable young man who knew that he could get away with murder because of the "Castle Doctrine" The man shot my son in the front of his neck as my son entered the front door . No one had been injured by my son. Guns for all ?? ?? THIS IS DISGUSTING!!!
Further proof the woman is an idiot. I bet she doesn't support the gay teens who are committing suicide left and right in her district due to bulling bringing guns to school and shooting the hateful little christians who abuse them in the face.
Every argument that Congresswoman Maxine Waters puts forward about public housing is also true of many private residences. Whenever you have 2 people in identical situations but they receive different treatment that is discrimination and flies in the face of equality before the law. This is one of those rare situations when I must agree with the dingbat, no the other dingbat Congresswoman Bachmann.
@ConservativeCountry are YOU seriously that stupied ???? if your not aloud to have guns then if your seen with one that opens up a warrant to search if your found with one legally or ilegally then you go to jail...... better then it being leagal and secretly doing illegal things with them..... change starts somewhere and it obviously would never start with a republican who ONLY cares about money.....
I see that many people posting here are dumber than Bachmann.
Here's the solution. Since all of you morons seem to think that guns shouldn't be restricted, under any circumstances, because of an amendment written in 1776, let's make legal only the weapons available in 1776. That's right. Cap and ball muzzle loaders. End of story. The other option is to let all guns be as cheap as possible......but the rounds cost $500 each. The founding fathers never mentioned bullets, did they. Whine.
This ignorant Waters wench is the one who was involved, along with her banker husband, in various shady banking dealings in California. Her "day in court" is yet to come.
Michele Bachmann gets over 150,000 a year from the government to run a clinic to “cure” homosexuality with her homo husband. They swim in money and are the top choice of the Tea Party. The Tea Party must be the most gullible helpless pile of derps this country has ever had the misfortune to deal with, people spoiled from indulgence and living in some tard bubble.
Actually Bachmann hits it on the head: the Second Amendment was intended for frontiersmen and the like, who were in constant danger from animals and humans, and who relied on "arms" perhaps for hunting, etc. This is no longer a valid concern, the Second Amendment is now basically null and void. I'm all for basing your politics on the Constitution, but like any other document it should not be interpreted dogmatically, but with a healthy portion of common sense, which is so lacking nowadays.
I think Waters is forgetting that people will still have things even if it is outlawed. Banning guns will not eliminate guns. It will just make self-defense illegal.
Also, public housing should abide by the constitution BECAUSE it is government-owned. The only way that a restriction contrary to the Bill of Rights should be legal is if it is private housing, in which the resident signs a contract surrendering that right.
Because her dumbass ten commandments says Thou shalt kill, right?
And then she claims to be a christian. What bullshit. Thou shalt look after number one. Violence and cutting taxes for the rich is all these trigger happy, selfish right wingers understand. It is despicable.
Nice to see that not all of US politicians are totally batshit crazy, though. Maxine Waters is so right.
Oh man, I really, REALLY hate agreeing with an idiot like Michele Bachmann.
I well understand where Congresswoman Waters is coming from, and I think her heart is in the right place, but law-abiding American Citizens, have a Constitutional Right, to keep and bear arms.
And you cannot deny an American Citizen their rights, based solely upon where they live.
Holy shit, the constitution was barely ratified. Actually, the Bill of Rights wasn't introduced until Virginia's ratification, so all but four of the original states ratified the constitution without such an amendment or bill or rights. That argument sucks. Also there was no Bill of Rights in 1787 as she is quoting, it wasn't introduced until 1789 and not ratified until 1791. So to say that the Bill of Rights was a major factor in the ratification of the constitution is impossible.
Sorry, Ms Waters, your emotions have good intent but you are Constitutionally wrong. Ms Waters mentions "... the people living there abiding by the law."
The Constitution gives us all laws & rights to bear arms. So, Constitutional laws apply to everyone regardless of whether the Fed provides the housing.
The police will protect them you say??? Yep, those white cops are right there on the spot protecting the people they enjoy locking up so much. Do the police even respond to calls from those areas and if so, how quickly? I live in a reletively nice area but sure don't count on police to protect those I love.
Yep... totally insane bitch but correct in the fact (for once) that this is a constitutional violation. Does anyone really think that a ban on firearms in public housing will make it safer? I can picture the gangstas all goin' damn muthafucka... we can't take our guns in there, that's public housing... laughable. Not so laughable is the guy forced to watch his family raped and murdered because the criminals had guns but he, as a lawabiding citizen, was deprived of his right to defend them.
Waters in constitutionally IN THE WRONG. She clearly admits that guns are already in public housing by illegal means. Bachmann's argument is correct. Law abiding citizens living in public housing should be able to legally defend their families.
But the biggest admission of Waters here is that "WE CONTROL THE HOUSING" basically explaining the typical liberal's spin on life. Let the government own and control and let the people be denied their God-granted rights.
@snorp73 hahaha yea god granted rights to kill each other when someone gets a little mad...its a lot easier to kill someone when theres a gun around...the 2nd amendment is left over from revolutionary days and has NO MEANING in todays society...they wrote that before we had tv so come on people...if u like it so much back then why dont u go back to using leeches when u get sick...to say bachmann is right is to have no idea about anything...she is ideologically oppossed to public housing or any
gov assistance that doesnt help wall street or her GAY ass husband get federal dollars at his medical clinic...she doesnt even belong in the discussion bc she would put those people on the streets insead of provide them with a house so dont even open ur mouths conservatives...no other country is there a debate about guns and housing...no wonder we have the worst healthcare for industrialized nations, worst education, broken tax policy that burdens the POOR...its a disgrace, thanks a lot idiots!
no one to blame but urselfs for electing the people who have run this country into a ditch and made each of us in debt to china to the tune of about $350,000 each...and thats not bc of the gays, the blacks, or the fed gov taking guns...its bc idiot americans gave the keys to right wing religious nuts bc they agree socially, but are opposite economically, which is the only thing that should matter...repubs should only get 2% of the vote...WHERE IS THE OTHER 48 COMING FROM?? WAKE UP!
@MRK9703 you got me....................... and now I understand what type of person you truly are and I’m not impressed......may you change for the better in the future
@Theozzie11 if there is a future*** lord knows idiots like bachmann would blow it up if she got voted in...why don't you get educated then maybe our kids' future might be brighter! or just keep doing what you're doing bc apparently its working?...this country is perfect right? haha
@snorp73 It's pathetic, noone needs a gun to defend their family, it's more likely to accidentally kill them. God-granted rights? State control? You're a paranoid theocratic idiot.
@yuppyguitar1 Really? I can't imagine what the riots would have been like if everyone owned a firearm. The economy collapsed because of a lack of state control, and the riots occured because of a lack of state investment.
I hate Michele Bachmann as much as the next reasonable person, but the 2nd amendment is an important protection for citizens against the power of the government.
Criminals will get and keep guns regardless of laws. Laws against gun ownership in public housing do little against gang mentality, they only deny law abiding citizens their right to keep and bear arms.
She is incredibly ignorant, but on this point, she is backed by the constitution and, amazingly, rationality.
Ownership of property does not preclude the application of the US Constitution if that property lies within the boundaries of the US. Compliance would seem to be a given especially where the property in question is federally managed.
The easiest solution is to defund PHA. People will appreciate their houses & neighborhoods if they have to work for them. That and they'll be at work instead of shooting at each other.
Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and Michele Bachmann know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
any property they own ? public servant just step out of line that is the property of the people and it is for the people and those people are protected by the right of the constitution wither she agrees or not i couldn't care less
Well this is an easy one. If a policing incident is misinterpreted by a whole tower of people packing heat, the squad cars and officers at the curbs are going to be in trouble. That's why it's like this. Maxine Waters doesn't really know the main motivations behind these regulations. I don't disagree with these regulations in all cases.
Michele 'Bagman' is the reason humans invented the word 'cunt'. It supersedes the word 'bitch'. If the word 'cunt' did not exist, I would not know how to describe her to a listener. Since the invention of the word 'cunt', I no longer have that problem. "Cunt." The word fits her like a glove. "If the glove fits, you must convict." -- Johnny Cochran (or something like that) Fuck that cunt!
Bachmann says ordinary people need guns because thugs have them. DUH! How about removing them from the general public like most civilized nations do? They don't seem to be over-run by thugs. The US has one of the highest crime rates for an industrialized country. Go figure!
By Bachmann's logic, anyone should be able to own a bazooka or anti-tank missiles launchers because some criminals have them.
There are too many morons with leathal weapons. THATS why you have the high violence rates.
What a typical leftist thing to say: "we determine what happens on our property" (6:20). Its not YOUR property. It's the People's property. The People who pay taxes to pay for that property and YOUR salary, Mrs Waters to do your job and not to decide for the people what's best for them. Unless ofcourse you, Mrs Waters think that People are not smart enough to make decisions on their own and you are the chosen one to tell them what to do...
@trino26 , Leftist ??? Cheney and Condaleesa say if torture is needed (even if it's against the law) WE will torture, they said WE, we as in GOVERNMENT, not specifically I will torture but WE as in Government, let me know if i have to explain it to you in simpler terms, when ONE walks into a federal building, one is not allowed to have there weapon, even if you have a concealed weapon license, WHY??? it is the law of the Federal Government, not a taxpayer like you claim, but a law.
As much and as often as I disagree with Michelle Bachmann, I have to agree with her on this issue. I am for somewhat stricter gun controls, but not based on where one lives. I think that's not a path we want to take. We should make it more difficult for the "gang bangers" to obtain guns, thus "stricter gun controls" that make sense.
@esd2000 , Gangbangers gun control ?? Gangs do not buy guns legally, the only way to stop gangs from purchasing guns is by bannings guns for civilians period, Michelle wants people in public housing to be able to own guns, for hunting and protection, However the federal government prohibits this when they give housing to individuals that may have a bad history or a bad spouse with a criminal record, it is the law, if they don't like it they should get there own place to live
@coolair00 I wasn't advocating a gun ban. It's not so much "criminals" that get the guns, if they're available of course they'll get them, it's "where" are they getting them. Not "all" of them are stolen.
Can someone explain to me why the left seems to completely leave out the fact that young people in gangs shooting up the town is a result of illegal arms trafficking and not the legal purchase of firearms by law-abiding citizens?
Ok What rights do you have if your dead? Id rather listen to someone bitch about how they cant carry a gun than live in fear of being shot. You shouldn't have to be afraid to go to sleep at night.
Who is "we" in your "we own this property," Maxine Waters? Have you forgotten that the people of the United States of America paid for that property with their taxes? Have you forgotten what "public" means? It isn't the legal firearms owners you describe, it is the illegal firearms brandishers you describe with your stories of raining bullets. Perhaps, you ignorant bigot, you should not respond to the facts of law with emotion and gesticulation if you wish to be taken seriously?
Bachmann and several of her GOP supporters have plans (if she is elected president) to put gay men and women in concentration camps. These "Fema" camps are being built in isolated areas all over the country and the taxpayers are paying for it. This is documented
I don't get it, is Bachmann some kind of joke whose punchline I've yet to understand?
Seriously, this woman needs to just stop talking and go away somewhere very far away where humanity doesn't have to deal with her. I actually feel bad for the US as an entity for having to recognise her as a citizen.
So basically you are free as long as you aren't poor and can afford to buy your own property? And the only racist thing in this is from Maxine Wayers. This is a very straight forward issue.
but do you have the authority to inhibit a constitutional amendment on your property? is it the poorest of the poor that commit gun related crimes? the people that acquire guns illegally have already proven that if you reallyreallyreally need a gun for something illegal going through the proper channels to get one isn't the way to go.
Your rules for public housing does not override the Bill of Rights!
Young men on the streets is merely due to bad parenting and the lack of infrastructure, including schools, in these poor areas. Maybe the Dems should end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan (orchestrated by GWB & Cheney) and bring our taxes home to benefit these areas instead of creating federally controlled housing centers where ppl do not have the rights guaranteed to them by their forefathers.
@lazerz4eyez For the life of me I can't understand why people, especially whites, pretend that all criminals come from Urban housing areas. Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Eric Rudolph, Susan Smith, Casey Anthony, Scott Peterson and many others came from two-parent families with strong "infrasturctures."
I personally know Herman Cain, and he grew up in Vine City (Atlanta, Ga) across from the Georgia Dome and he's obviously doing well. Michael Steele said he grew up in the projects as well.
@whiteliberal1 Now we are going to make this a race issue? You just mentioned a few notable figures from well known crimes based on the color of their skin. How about the countless people that die every day in poor areas, regardless of skin color, because of their socio-economic conditions. Sure, guns make an easy villain, like pit bulls, but why not tackle the real issues! No schools, no infrastructure, no jobs... that's not race, but that's the card you chose to play.
As for the "infrastructure," again, the aforementioned criminals all came from solid homes, schools, and except for Casey Anthony (who lied about working @ Universal Studios)-they ALL had jobs! So what made them become lawless? Ignoring these facts is your avenue to run away from the "real issues."
Btw, when people refer to racial issues about Blacks, here they come with that "race card" bullshit! Talk about a Jew, and they're anti-semite.
Unfortunately the dumb shit republican is right and the dumb shit democrat is absolutely wrong. You can't fix the problems by making laws that violate the constitution; you fix the problem by improving your law enforcement and your economy. If these assholes want to change the second amendment then they MUST submit a constitutional amendment for ratification by the states.
@MsWanderer1 Mrs. Waters wasn't trying to undermine the constitution. Again, she knows, like anyone with a brain, what this skank is plotting.
I'm surprised Michele isn't up there promoting, "these people have the right to sell drugs to one another. They have to support their families. Besides, it will help them get off of welfare, thus promoting job growth in their communities! This is nothing more than profiling."-Michele Bachmann
I see no difference in both you liberal progressives and the social conservatives/right-wing (Christians); both groups have their own agendas and neither fit any concepts of liberty and freedom. Political agendas are designed to rule; NOT to serve! Politicians know they can only rule the parasites that feed off the system; that's why liberals want to create more parasites! If you are a government employee or you receive government entitlements then you are a parasite!
There are some people, not all, that have fallen on hard times in their lives. I have a friend (female) who I served with as a Marine in Panama. She was medically discharged, and basically had to live on what they gave her. With two kids to support and no way of working (a lost limb) she had to depend a "govt. entitlement." In your miserable eyes, I guess she's a "parasite?!"
Where is the father of your friend's children? Do you give her any assistance?
I was a volunteer at our local VA hospital; your friend's sad story does not compare to those I've seen there. You only hear about those killed in action but nothing about those maimed during their service to our country; in many cases those who died were the lucky ones. Our government is out of control and entitlements are only one of the minor problems; asinine wars are the major problems.
@MsWanderer1 You asked, "where's the father of your friend's children?" He died from "Leukemia!"
I wasn't trying to give you a "sad story" to compare to others. You were the one who called people who receive welfare, "Parisites." If she served her country (honorably) and payed her due taxes, then why would she be considered a parisite? I guess losing a limb isn't "sad" enough for you, eh?
Btw, don't blame her for the "asinine" wars, you ingrate skank!
So what kind of government job do you have? It's obvious that you are also one of the shit-for-brains liberal parasites feeding off those who actually have real jobs and contribute to society.
BTW: I haven't heard anyone use the term "skank" in over 40 years; either your mother was a skank or you're an old dickhead white trash liberal!
What difference does it make about my job? Again, you called a DISABLED American Veteran, who LOST her limbs, husband (Luekemia) and has to support her kids on her own via government programs, a "Parasite." I was honorably discharged from the Marine Corps. (E-6 Gunnery Sgt.). You talk about Vets are part of the problem of these wars? You're stll blaming our Military for wars?
What have you done to make America a better place?
@MsWanderer1 if you got your head out your ass, you'd realize that most white trash and trailer trash that DONT work hard for a living and are "parasites" are conservatives, not liberals. and you havent heard skank in over 40 years? well, i certainly have never heard of white trash being liberal. lmao.
Politicians know they can manipulate you young dumb shits to vote for them or spread their propaganda; you're the one with your head up your ass and it's pathetic that you don't even realize it! Go back to your whanker whacking until you get your IQ above your waistline!
@MsWanderer1 haha, now youre insulting my intelligence? i guarantee you my SAT score is higher than yours was, and i certainly dont believe you graduated your high school with an IB diploma. hun, the best thing you can do is bequiet because you're only insulting people and not making YOUR argument any stronger. and us "young dumb shits" vote for liberals BECAUSE of their "propaganda", the "propaganda" that allows for more rights for more people, and a more financially equal society.
@MsWanderer1 its obvious you dont have any bias in everything you say, right? does it make you feel better to insult a person thats much younger than you? because if it does, then i truly feel sorry for you. and quite honestly, im glad that my generation is keeping the people who represent asses like you out of office. (;
Here you are, claiming that a Veteran who lost her limb in Panama, and whose husband has past away from Luekemia, is a parasite! This Veteran does depend on govt. assistance to help her in her time of need. She's raising her kids the best way she can. She's paid enough dues to ask for federal assistance. It's the least they can do. Also, you blamed her and the other Vets. for the wars?
Henceforth, respond to Dienda since you won't respond back to me.
Again, you called a United States Veteran a parasite? All because she lost her left leg in Panama? Then you asked, "where's her husband" to further prove she's a parasite sponging off of the government. I answered that as well. Her husband is deceased! He died after battling (Luekemia).
She has asked and received federal assistance to help with her children. But you see her as a parasite who is responsible for wars.
You seem to think that all parasites are detrimental to the host; some are symbiotic. All military people are or have been symbiotic parasites that contribute to the host’s wellbeing; others like you are simply feeders that will feed until you kill the host! Only ignorant fools like you think they win a debate by outlasting their opponents with their nonsense; go troll some of your dumb shit buddies or wise-up!
Again, if you call a military veteran who is disabled w/kids and raising them alone, due to the death of her husband, a parasite, then, only a skank like you can consider me calling you out for that as a, "troll."
Seriously, a troll? I answered your questions:
"Where is her husband"
"Why is she receiving 'welfare'?"
When I answered, you attempted to slither your pathetic ass away from the conversation. Hence the reason I kept hammering away @ your foolish Ass!
BTW: Only losers like you that can't tolerate truth will leave a comment on my channel page and then block me from responding to your comment on your channel page.
She's a good lady to back the Second Amendment on behalf of those living in public housing. Now let's hear from some of you black folks that you appreciate what she's doing.
@guyNbluejeans - I think Michele Bachmann should have to live in public housing perhaps in Compton, California for 6 months before deciding any gun laws. She is so far out of touch with reality it is laughable. I am all for the 2nd amendment, but MY tax dollars pays for public housing, so this issue needs further study. It is easy to make rules about another community when you have no idea what that community is like.
@phillipmarch2 Sort of like you have to be a chicken to recognize an egg, right?
You sound crazy when you say in one sentence that Bachmann is out of touch with reality due to her supporting the gun rights of those law-abiding people in the projects but then say that you're all for the Second Amendment. And you then top it off with saying more studies are needed.
Here's what's needed: Tell welfare moms to not have kids if they can't afford them. Tell them to get educated and improve their lot.
@guyNbluejeans - The problem in the "Projects" is that there are not a lot of law abiding citizens and there is usually no deer hunting in the projects. And you obviously don't know about "welfare" Moms either. You can't sit on your ass and make babies and collect welfare. You have a certain time to either be going to school or get employed or they drop you. It is an old wives tale that you can just collect state aid and sit on your ass. Looks like you are out of touch with reality.
@phillipmarch22 You don't know what you're talking about. Welfare queens have been doing it forever so they can get bigger checks, we all know it's true.
They are not homeowners. They are lessees. They are tenants of property owned by somebody else. If I own my own property, I can keep pets, I can have kids, I can have as many other people live in my own property as I want (barring health code violations) as I want.
But if I rent from somebody else, the "property owner" gets to decide the terms of my residency. Kids? Pets? Guns? My property -- up to me. His property -- up to him.
I don't like the terms -- I get to go somewhere else.
prodprod 1 week ago
I don't need a gun to protect me in my home. I have crossbows, knives, and swords.
Bigbossjin 2 weeks ago
of course a black woman is afraid of guns.. she probably grew up around gangs
brianestoll 2 weeks ago
this might be the only logical thing MB's ever said
brianestoll 2 weeks ago
Thanks Rep. Waters... at least somebody had the "balls" to say it.
SolvencyByTaxation 1 month ago
You guys have way too much time on your hands. Take a sip of sherry, sit back and enjoy the sunset.
KyleRichardHudson 1 month ago
this fucking black bitch is dumb as fuck
tonyteb 1 month ago
"Our Property" Ms. Water's? You think you, the Congress, own Federal property? NO, the citizenry of the United States owns all federal property, as it is purchased an maintained with our tax dollars; as such, all rules which govern said property are bound to the Constitution.
RebelWrestler45 1 month ago
@RebelWrestler45 you're an idiot, she never said congress owns it, anyway congress represents the public you idiot.
cook119 1 month ago
@cook119 You really thin Waters used the possessive pronoun 'our' in the context of the American citizenry? No, public housing authorities are not like public parks, they are nothing more than entitlements that the government administrates. Congress represents the public; but the very purpose of the Constitution is to limit the power of Congress. Unlike privately owned businesses, Federally owned entities must abide by the Constitution; the 2nd Amendment is an inalienable right.
RebelWrestler45 1 month ago
@RebelWrestler45 Well put point. If only more people told congress about the constitution when they passed laws effectively getting rid of habeas corpus. I would imagine there a lot of lawyers who would have something to say about what you just said but your probably right, its just a shame it leads to so many people being killed and shit lives.
cook119 1 month ago
Damn, she wants tenants living in a public housing facility to carry guns.. Back to the wild wild west days?? LOL
tmywil1 1 month ago
@tmywil1 No, she wants tenants living in public housing facilities to have equal constitutional rights under the law.
RebelWrestler45 1 month ago
Who would have thought that the Meth head and bat shit crazy was such a strong Republican voting bloc.
MendingMedia 2 months ago
someone check her purse and see if she's packing heat ;)
americanfellow 3 months ago
It's not about whether they got their guns legally or illegally. The point is that the government, who owns the public housing, reserves the right to evict individuals discovered with firearms - which would act as a deterrent for those who care about continuing to live in their homes. Whether they get the guns legally or illegally is irrelevant, the point is do discourage them from possessing guns no matter how they come about.
HappyColouredMarbles 3 months ago
@HappyColouredMarbles Hence the conflict with the 2nd Amendment.
RebelWrestler45 1 month ago
@RebelWrestler45 Well, maybe they should scrap the 2nd amendment. The problem is that Bachman is taking a principled approach to the issue as opposed to a pragmatic approach - it's sort of like biblical literalists who only stick to what was written but don't assess the writing for its effects. I wonder, had the founding fathers known the problems that would arise from the 2nd ammendment in the face of urbanization, if they would have supported the ammendment in the first place.
HappyColouredMarbles 1 month ago
@HappyColouredMarbles The right to self defense is an inalienable natural right; it is a preexisting right that the Constitution protects, it is not a right which originates from government. If the government takes away the means to self defense, by proxy it removes the right alltogether. Natural rights are never a matter of pragmatism. Surely it would be more utilitarian to scrap the 4th Amendment; but then you have sacrificed freedom, for the promise of safety.
RebelWrestler45 1 month ago
@RebelWrestler45 Well, I have to disagree with you there. "Natural laws" are based on a conception of nature that likely never existed. Not to mention that many contemporary societies that ban guns used for the sole purpose of defending oneself (or in otherwords, to kill others) have far less gun violence than the USA. You don't hear major protests in Canada about natural rights being violated because people can't legally own handguns, but you do see a much safer society.
HappyColouredMarbles 1 month ago
@HappyColouredMarbles Here we have a classic example of fallaciously ascribing causation to mere correlation. There are thousands of demonstrably influential variables; from income disparity and social inequality, to illegal immigration and gang problems, to the criminalization of drugs that increase murder rates.To understand natural law, read Locke's 2nd Treatise of Government and Hobbe's Leviathan; natural law is not based on a false conception of nature.
RebelWrestler45 1 month ago
@RebelWrestler45 I have read Locke and Hobbes, and I don't find them convincing. The premise is important in the arguments they make - Locke draws natural law from the state of nature that he sets out at the beginning of his treatise. I stand by my opinion to reject the Hobbesian thought experiment as the state of nature. Now you do have a good point that other factors impact violence than just weapons themselves, but I still disagree that owning guns is a natural right.
HappyColouredMarbles 1 month ago
@HappyColouredMarbles I too reject Hobbes' thought experiment; as it creates a false hypothetical, but it is still illuminating. I would define 'natural rights' in the Lockean sense; life, liberty, and property. The application of this in society is a balance b/w natural rights and societal obligation; wherein the exercise of one's freedom stops at the point where another's natural rights are violated. The defense of one's life, liberty, and property is a natural right.
RebelWrestler45 1 month ago
@RebelWrestler45 So you're saying people should have personal drones. I mean, why not? You'd probably have a better arc of fire.
rajasmasala 3 weeks ago
what a twit.
RedroomStudios 3 months ago
So what's the reasoning? Banning guns in public housing projects will reduce crime?
TheWinepusher 3 months ago
@TheWinepusher It would increase public housing safety. As someone who lives in a large city with public housing downtown, I can tell you it would help. If I'm ever near the projects at night, even during the day, every few hours there's a shot fired.
bachthoven1685 3 months ago
@bachthoven1685 Do you really think that the people firing those shots got their guns legally? LMAO
freakylocz14 3 months ago
@freakylocz14 It isn't a question of legality, the fact that guns are in circulation means they are easy to come by, both legally and illegally. Most likely, someone buys the guns from someone who DID attain them legally. Or they could have just gotten a license themselves considering you just have to sit in a class for a few days and you can buy one legally.
bachthoven1685 3 months ago
@bachthoven1685 Most drug dealers would failed the background checks. Most guns used in crimes are smuggled.
freakylocz14 3 months ago
@freakylocz14 If some one living in the projects had enough money to smuggle guns from out of the country, they wouldn't be living in the projects...If guns were taken off the market for the public, the only way to get them would be very expensive deals from out of the country, which most small time criminals couldn't afford.
bachthoven1685 3 months ago
@bachthoven1685 Have you ever lived in very poor areas like I have? The guns are provided by the drug lords to their foot soldiers. Organized crime is organized, after all. Allowing law-abiding citizens to even the playing fields in public housing is positive.
freakylocz14 3 months ago
...how did bachmann become a politician in the first place??
jaja1818 4 months ago
@jaja1818 I know right? If she were to try to run in the UK she would be disqualified!
Radetzky19 3 months ago
You Americans really love your little guns don't you, what are you ? A bunch of pussies ? Oh no ! my gun ! please don't take my little gunny I'm affraid !!!
Pussies...
alexandreleverrier 4 months ago
@alexandreleverrier Where are you from with your sanctimonious tripe!!!!!
b52gf16c 4 months ago
@alexandreleverrier Where are you from with your sanctimonious tripe!!!!!
b52gf16c 4 months ago
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b52gf16c 4 months ago
Hello my name is Robert Fartflame and I support Michele Bachmann, I believe that Mexicans should not be alowed to wear pants and black people should all buy a white dog with no socks, I am completly fucked up in the head just like Bachmann that is why I like her.
alexandreleverrier 4 months ago
Maxine waters is a fucking moron CRIMINALS dont abide by the law you stupid bitch they will have a gun whether it is legal or not
ryan1977ify 4 months ago
this is the problem with the democrats: yes, waters has a point that public housing has more than it's share of violence and gangs, but she is dead wrong thinking that is the reason why anyone should have their constitutional rights taken away in an effort to "solve" the problem. how many problems have dems "solved" by restricting rights and giving entitlements? now how many have they created?
khemo5 5 months ago
Why does she think poor people need guns?
whereismyIQgoing 5 months ago
@whereismyIQgoing To protect themselves from people like her.
3000gtgomez7 5 months ago
@whereismyIQgoing Cause all people have a Constitutional right to have guns if they want. DUH.
LifeDontWasteIt 4 months ago
@LifeDontWasteIt Were the founding fathers high when they wrote the constitution?
whereismyIQgoing 4 months ago
@whereismyIQgoing no they used muskets and there was no law enforcement put in place but speraticaly across the americas little did they realise that these repukelican shmucks would use it to ensite terroristic acts in modern times. I say if average people want the right to bare arms and throw the second amendment into this then you can as long as its a musket the requires a ball and shoving gun powder down the barrel to laod it and not an AK47 or automatic weapon. You can escape a musket.
BlackMambakins 4 months ago
@BlackMambakins True, it would make action movies pretty slow though
whereismyIQgoing 4 months ago
@whereismyIQgoing - you're so indoctrinated you're actually stupid.
thomaserossi 4 months ago
@thomaserossi Not particularly, possesing a firearm is frowned upon worldwide and only Americans seems to think that guns are needed to protect themselves (from who I don't know). Also why are you calling me indoctrinated when you:
a) Follow a religion
b) Follow the US constitution by the letter (even though as the guy just said back then they were talking about muskets not AK47s)
c) You actually believe that all Muslims are terrorists just because of one stupid quote in the Qa'aran.
whereismyIQgoing 4 months ago
@whereismyIQgoing awesome counter to thomaserossi!!
Radetzky19 3 months ago
Easy one. If you own the land your living on, keep your guns. If your renting, or living on public land, obey the rules of the landlord.
vidmister 5 months ago
@vidmister Because a landlord CANNOT take away your Constitutional rights - that's why... esp. when the landlord is the Government. Yeesh!
LifeDontWasteIt 4 months ago
@LifeDontWasteIt
well, that's just silly. The landlord owns the buildings and makes the rules. If you don't like his rules, don't live there. Sometimes, to solve a problem ya gotta compromise a bit.
vidmister 4 months ago
CHRIS HOLLY performs "THE TIMES THEY ARE A-CHANGIN" for Rep Bachmann at Town Hall in SC-A MUST SEE on youtube
musicmoney21 5 months ago
Why do christian nutjobs who are pro life and moral apparently fear having their guns taken away?
pieter292 5 months ago
@pieter292 cowards.
Keyo717 5 months ago
@pieter292 Protecting your family is different from killing the unborn. I don't agree with her all the way about gun laws btw.
Creationcreed 5 months ago
I hate Michele Bachmann, but she has a point here, and makes it with some competence. Now, I've seen a lot of Section 8 housing, and I think it would be best if there were no firearms in these places (thinking condo/apartment style housing here), but these people are citizens and are entitled to their rights. The Government is engaged in all sorts of nonsense limiting or restricting people's rights. You either have to resist it all, or not at all. It is a constitutional right.
dieinafirenrot 5 months ago
@dieinafirenrot ....of course I sympathize with Maxine Waters' point. But ultimately you need to find another way. I think the government SHOULD be in the business of providing this housing (although much section 8 is not 'owned' by the government), and providing other forms of welfare, but the government should not be making this money conditional on the recipient giving up their rights. I am uncomfortable, even, with conditions beyond rights.
dieinafirenrot 5 months ago
@dieinafirenrot I finally found it, the one issue she gets correct!
b52gf16c 5 months ago
As crazy as Michelle Bachmann is, I totally agree with her on this. It's bull shit that you get your rights stripped for living in public housing. You guys are justifying that. Most guns that kill people are illegally purchased which is why it's so hard to solve murders these days, if half of those guns were registered and tied to somebody this world would be a lot safer, trust that. I don't agree with Michelle 99% of the time but I'm all for peoples rights, and poor people should get the same.
cav1986 5 months ago
No right to eat. No right to health care. But you run right out and get a gun. Yep.
VireoIbis 5 months ago
Whoopee! So the big deal is "waah, waah, I deserve a gun if I license and register properly, Whyy can't I have a gun like everyone else . This is the demand. When I hear this I feel sick. My 35 yr old son was murdered by a miserable young man who knew that he could get away with murder because of the "Castle Doctrine" The man shot my son in the front of his neck as my son entered the front door . No one had been injured by my son. Guns for all ?? ?? THIS IS DISGUSTING!!!
hollisterpatricia 5 months ago
Further proof the woman is an idiot. I bet she doesn't support the gay teens who are committing suicide left and right in her district due to bulling bringing guns to school and shooting the hateful little christians who abuse them in the face.
gray73 5 months ago
Every argument that Congresswoman Maxine Waters puts forward about public housing is also true of many private residences. Whenever you have 2 people in identical situations but they receive different treatment that is discrimination and flies in the face of equality before the law. This is one of those rare situations when I must agree with the dingbat, no the other dingbat Congresswoman Bachmann.
Zyworski 5 months ago
@ConservativeCountry are YOU seriously that stupied ???? if your not aloud to have guns then if your seen with one that opens up a warrant to search if your found with one legally or ilegally then you go to jail...... better then it being leagal and secretly doing illegal things with them..... change starts somewhere and it obviously would never start with a republican who ONLY cares about money.....
ohbuddyiliketowatch 5 months ago
I see that many people posting here are dumber than Bachmann.
Here's the solution. Since all of you morons seem to think that guns shouldn't be restricted, under any circumstances, because of an amendment written in 1776, let's make legal only the weapons available in 1776. That's right. Cap and ball muzzle loaders. End of story. The other option is to let all guns be as cheap as possible......but the rounds cost $500 each. The founding fathers never mentioned bullets, did they. Whine.
averdibello 5 months ago
This ignorant Waters wench is the one who was involved, along with her banker husband, in various shady banking dealings in California. Her "day in court" is yet to come.
mindtouchone 5 months ago
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YO DERPS,
Michele Bachmann gets over 150,000 a year from the government to run a clinic to “cure” homosexuality with her homo husband. They swim in money and are the top choice of the Tea Party. The Tea Party must be the most gullible helpless pile of derps this country has ever had the misfortune to deal with, people spoiled from indulgence and living in some tard bubble.
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LoneRookRS1 5 months ago
id tell her to make me a sandwitch but im scared that she would get that wrong
collegehumorrulz1 5 months ago
Actually Bachmann hits it on the head: the Second Amendment was intended for frontiersmen and the like, who were in constant danger from animals and humans, and who relied on "arms" perhaps for hunting, etc. This is no longer a valid concern, the Second Amendment is now basically null and void. I'm all for basing your politics on the Constitution, but like any other document it should not be interpreted dogmatically, but with a healthy portion of common sense, which is so lacking nowadays.
Brogel 5 months ago
Wow. Maxine Waters is awesome!
StringUsername 5 months ago
She would look hot as hell dressed all in black latex!
DarthTroller 5 months ago
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daveevegas 5 months ago
Bachmann is a jackass.
Minnesota voters should be embarrassed and ashamed of the frootloop they've chosen to represent them.
oneupagain 5 months ago
I think Waters is forgetting that people will still have things even if it is outlawed. Banning guns will not eliminate guns. It will just make self-defense illegal.
Also, public housing should abide by the constitution BECAUSE it is government-owned. The only way that a restriction contrary to the Bill of Rights should be legal is if it is private housing, in which the resident signs a contract surrendering that right.
rejakalu 6 months ago
Just what America needs... more guns.
Because her dumbass ten commandments says Thou shalt kill, right?
And then she claims to be a christian. What bullshit. Thou shalt look after number one. Violence and cutting taxes for the rich is all these trigger happy, selfish right wingers understand. It is despicable.
Nice to see that not all of US politicians are totally batshit crazy, though. Maxine Waters is so right.
Nilguiri 6 months ago
Hey Sharon Angle, is there a second ammendment remedy for Michele Bachmann?
dilberto305 6 months ago
Oh man, I really, REALLY hate agreeing with an idiot like Michele Bachmann.
I well understand where Congresswoman Waters is coming from, and I think her heart is in the right place, but law-abiding American Citizens, have a Constitutional Right, to keep and bear arms.
And you cannot deny an American Citizen their rights, based solely upon where they live.
skeilak 6 months ago
Holy shit, the constitution was barely ratified. Actually, the Bill of Rights wasn't introduced until Virginia's ratification, so all but four of the original states ratified the constitution without such an amendment or bill or rights. That argument sucks. Also there was no Bill of Rights in 1787 as she is quoting, it wasn't introduced until 1789 and not ratified until 1791. So to say that the Bill of Rights was a major factor in the ratification of the constitution is impossible.
mkieltyka 6 months ago
Man, we need to get rid of, or at least update the second amendment.
mkieltyka 6 months ago
She just said 'posseshing', at 4:23. What a dipfuck.
ZacharyNMercer 6 months ago
just hearing her speak makes me feel stupid....
Hemmersfield1 6 months ago
Bachmann's accent makes my ears bleed.
DragonFly122 6 months ago
criminals don't live in public housing? lol
Rossyboy3000 6 months ago
Sorry, Ms Waters, your emotions have good intent but you are Constitutionally wrong. Ms Waters mentions "... the people living there abiding by the law."
The Constitution gives us all laws & rights to bear arms. So, Constitutional laws apply to everyone regardless of whether the Fed provides the housing.
ShawnsterVideos 6 months ago
Michele bachmann is a horrible, despicable person. Her position here is absurd.
MRBBJC 6 months ago
The police will protect them you say??? Yep, those white cops are right there on the spot protecting the people they enjoy locking up so much. Do the police even respond to calls from those areas and if so, how quickly? I live in a reletively nice area but sure don't count on police to protect those I love.
UncleMatt69 6 months ago
Yep... totally insane bitch but correct in the fact (for once) that this is a constitutional violation. Does anyone really think that a ban on firearms in public housing will make it safer? I can picture the gangstas all goin' damn muthafucka... we can't take our guns in there, that's public housing... laughable. Not so laughable is the guy forced to watch his family raped and murdered because the criminals had guns but he, as a lawabiding citizen, was deprived of his right to defend them.
UncleMatt69 6 months ago
Michele Bachmann wouldn't care if they all killed each other. Remember black children were better off during slavery according to her.
KriyaYogini 6 months ago
Waters in constitutionally IN THE WRONG. She clearly admits that guns are already in public housing by illegal means. Bachmann's argument is correct. Law abiding citizens living in public housing should be able to legally defend their families.
But the biggest admission of Waters here is that "WE CONTROL THE HOUSING" basically explaining the typical liberal's spin on life. Let the government own and control and let the people be denied their God-granted rights.
snorp73 6 months ago
@snorp73 hahaha yea god granted rights to kill each other when someone gets a little mad...its a lot easier to kill someone when theres a gun around...the 2nd amendment is left over from revolutionary days and has NO MEANING in todays society...they wrote that before we had tv so come on people...if u like it so much back then why dont u go back to using leeches when u get sick...to say bachmann is right is to have no idea about anything...she is ideologically oppossed to public housing or any
MRK9703 6 months ago
gov assistance that doesnt help wall street or her GAY ass husband get federal dollars at his medical clinic...she doesnt even belong in the discussion bc she would put those people on the streets insead of provide them with a house so dont even open ur mouths conservatives...no other country is there a debate about guns and housing...no wonder we have the worst healthcare for industrialized nations, worst education, broken tax policy that burdens the POOR...its a disgrace, thanks a lot idiots!
MRK9703 6 months ago
no one to blame but urselfs for electing the people who have run this country into a ditch and made each of us in debt to china to the tune of about $350,000 each...and thats not bc of the gays, the blacks, or the fed gov taking guns...its bc idiot americans gave the keys to right wing religious nuts bc they agree socially, but are opposite economically, which is the only thing that should matter...repubs should only get 2% of the vote...WHERE IS THE OTHER 48 COMING FROM?? WAKE UP!
MRK9703 6 months ago
@MRK9703 you should stop talking/typing for your making yourself look like a fool
Theozzie11 6 months ago
@Theozzie11 you're**making yourself look like a fool you mean...and yea you're right...HAHA, try to get one sentence right genius
MRK9703 6 months ago
@MRK9703 you got me....................... and now I understand what type of person you truly are and I’m not impressed......may you change for the better in the future
Theozzie11 6 months ago
@Theozzie11 if there is a future*** lord knows idiots like bachmann would blow it up if she got voted in...why don't you get educated then maybe our kids' future might be brighter! or just keep doing what you're doing bc apparently its working?...this country is perfect right? haha
MRK9703 3 months ago
@snorp73 It's pathetic, noone needs a gun to defend their family, it's more likely to accidentally kill them. God-granted rights? State control? You're a paranoid theocratic idiot.
LoneRookRS1 6 months ago
@LoneRookRS1 As our economy continues to collapse, and we have lawlessness as England is now, you'll eat those words.
yuppyguitar1 5 months ago
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@yuppyguitar1 Really? I can't imagine what the riots would have been like if everyone owned a firearm. The economy collapsed because of a lack of state control, and the riots occured because of a lack of state investment.
LoneRookRS1 5 months ago
Bachman's a whack job, BUT she's right here...
kip9999 6 months ago
I hate Michele Bachmann as much as the next reasonable person, but the 2nd amendment is an important protection for citizens against the power of the government.
Criminals will get and keep guns regardless of laws. Laws against gun ownership in public housing do little against gang mentality, they only deny law abiding citizens their right to keep and bear arms.
She is incredibly ignorant, but on this point, she is backed by the constitution and, amazingly, rationality.
Ryakki 6 months ago
she wants guns in the hands of everyone
she thinks Sarah Palin is smart
she wants to ban all porn
she wants to enforce Abstinence
she wants to start more wars.
WHY THE HELL IS SHE EVEN IN OFFICE!? SHE SHOULD BE INSTITUTIONALIZED!!!!
Mikeybetts 6 months ago
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1987zdavis 6 months ago
Ownership of property does not preclude the application of the US Constitution if that property lies within the boundaries of the US. Compliance would seem to be a given especially where the property in question is federally managed.
The easiest solution is to defund PHA. People will appreciate their houses & neighborhoods if they have to work for them. That and they'll be at work instead of shooting at each other.
US voters really need to clean House!!
mike0pierce 6 months ago
What is she wearing? That's a crime against the fashion constitution!
mamaluigitoyou 6 months ago
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Julia Gillard wears worse
Mikeybetts 6 months ago
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working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
GOPkicksbutt 6 months ago
any property they own ? public servant just step out of line that is the property of the people and it is for the people and those people are protected by the right of the constitution wither she agrees or not i couldn't care less
bbygrl1979 6 months ago
There was no smackdown...
Michele Bachmann was right!
SokemRokemRobot 6 months ago
@SokemRokemRobot
It's really funny that you don't see the evil reason why Bachmann even bothered to motion against the gun ban. You're a real inchworm.
frankgrimes17 6 months ago
Well this is an easy one. If a policing incident is misinterpreted by a whole tower of people packing heat, the squad cars and officers at the curbs are going to be in trouble. That's why it's like this. Maxine Waters doesn't really know the main motivations behind these regulations. I don't disagree with these regulations in all cases.
Blues353 6 months ago
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HaveTruthWillTravel 6 months ago
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Michele 'Bagman' is the reason humans invented the word 'cunt'. It supersedes the word 'bitch'. If the word 'cunt' did not exist, I would not know how to describe her to a listener. Since the invention of the word 'cunt', I no longer have that problem. "Cunt." The word fits her like a glove. "If the glove fits, you must convict." -- Johnny Cochran (or something like that) Fuck that cunt!
yeshuahfullofit 6 months ago
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we just want to see a debate between palin and bachmann
Orlando2Vegas 6 months ago
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Bachmann says ordinary people need guns because thugs have them. DUH! How about removing them from the general public like most civilized nations do? They don't seem to be over-run by thugs. The US has one of the highest crime rates for an industrialized country. Go figure!
By Bachmann's logic, anyone should be able to own a bazooka or anti-tank missiles launchers because some criminals have them.
There are too many morons with leathal weapons. THATS why you have the high violence rates.
themsfightinwoids 6 months ago
What a typical leftist thing to say: "we determine what happens on our property" (6:20). Its not YOUR property. It's the People's property. The People who pay taxes to pay for that property and YOUR salary, Mrs Waters to do your job and not to decide for the people what's best for them. Unless ofcourse you, Mrs Waters think that People are not smart enough to make decisions on their own and you are the chosen one to tell them what to do...
trino26 6 months ago
@trino26 , Leftist ??? Cheney and Condaleesa say if torture is needed (even if it's against the law) WE will torture, they said WE, we as in GOVERNMENT, not specifically I will torture but WE as in Government, let me know if i have to explain it to you in simpler terms, when ONE walks into a federal building, one is not allowed to have there weapon, even if you have a concealed weapon license, WHY??? it is the law of the Federal Government, not a taxpayer like you claim, but a law.
037scaramanga1 6 months ago
As much and as often as I disagree with Michelle Bachmann, I have to agree with her on this issue. I am for somewhat stricter gun controls, but not based on where one lives. I think that's not a path we want to take. We should make it more difficult for the "gang bangers" to obtain guns, thus "stricter gun controls" that make sense.
esd2000 6 months ago
@esd2000 , Gangbangers gun control ?? Gangs do not buy guns legally, the only way to stop gangs from purchasing guns is by bannings guns for civilians period, Michelle wants people in public housing to be able to own guns, for hunting and protection, However the federal government prohibits this when they give housing to individuals that may have a bad history or a bad spouse with a criminal record, it is the law, if they don't like it they should get there own place to live
037scaramanga1 6 months ago
@037scaramanga1 There are no background checks on those purchasing guns at some "gun shows". That issue should be addressed, period.
esd2000 6 months ago
@esd2000 The only ppl that a gun ban will affect is those that would follow it. Criminals will have guns regardless of any law banning them.
coolair00 6 months ago
@coolair00 I wasn't advocating a gun ban. It's not so much "criminals" that get the guns, if they're available of course they'll get them, it's "where" are they getting them. Not "all" of them are stolen.
esd2000 6 months ago
Can someone explain to me why the left seems to completely leave out the fact that young people in gangs shooting up the town is a result of illegal arms trafficking and not the legal purchase of firearms by law-abiding citizens?
WJustinMiller 6 months ago
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Ok What rights do you have if your dead? Id rather listen to someone bitch about how they cant carry a gun than live in fear of being shot. You shouldn't have to be afraid to go to sleep at night.
LALW1118 6 months ago
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GO MAXINE WALTERS!
Katgal999 6 months ago
Who is "we" in your "we own this property," Maxine Waters? Have you forgotten that the people of the United States of America paid for that property with their taxes? Have you forgotten what "public" means? It isn't the legal firearms owners you describe, it is the illegal firearms brandishers you describe with your stories of raining bullets. Perhaps, you ignorant bigot, you should not respond to the facts of law with emotion and gesticulation if you wish to be taken seriously?
CommanderChoad11 6 months ago
Give them nukes, lotsa problems may be fixed with just push of a one button...
MrKepponen 6 months ago
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Bachmann and several of her GOP supporters have plans (if she is elected president) to put gay men and women in concentration camps. These "Fema" camps are being built in isolated areas all over the country and the taxpayers are paying for it. This is documented
TheKmbt 6 months ago
they allow retards to vote in minnesota,,,,yay!
discos1 6 months ago
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i would like to see her and Ron Paul go at it.
G5F4D3S2A1 6 months ago
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this ass needs to learn how to summarize
sjackson622 6 months ago
Wow. Where is this bachmann today
EeZBoiOpus 6 months ago
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I don't get it, is Bachmann some kind of joke whose punchline I've yet to understand?
Seriously, this woman needs to just stop talking and go away somewhere very far away where humanity doesn't have to deal with her. I actually feel bad for the US as an entity for having to recognise her as a citizen.
pamew 6 months ago
So basically you are free as long as you aren't poor and can afford to buy your own property? And the only racist thing in this is from Maxine Wayers. This is a very straight forward issue.
SylvenGDCS 6 months ago
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Maxine waxed the floor with Michele's flat ass! LOL
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
but do you have the authority to inhibit a constitutional amendment on your property? is it the poorest of the poor that commit gun related crimes? the people that acquire guns illegally have already proven that if you reallyreallyreally need a gun for something illegal going through the proper channels to get one isn't the way to go.
RipzOnNubes 6 months ago
Your rules for public housing does not override the Bill of Rights!
Young men on the streets is merely due to bad parenting and the lack of infrastructure, including schools, in these poor areas. Maybe the Dems should end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan (orchestrated by GWB & Cheney) and bring our taxes home to benefit these areas instead of creating federally controlled housing centers where ppl do not have the rights guaranteed to them by their forefathers.
lazerz4eyez 6 months ago
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@lazerz4eyez For the life of me I can't understand why people, especially whites, pretend that all criminals come from Urban housing areas. Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Eric Rudolph, Susan Smith, Casey Anthony, Scott Peterson and many others came from two-parent families with strong "infrasturctures."
I personally know Herman Cain, and he grew up in Vine City (Atlanta, Ga) across from the Georgia Dome and he's obviously doing well. Michael Steele said he grew up in the projects as well.
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
@whiteliberal1 Now we are going to make this a race issue? You just mentioned a few notable figures from well known crimes based on the color of their skin. How about the countless people that die every day in poor areas, regardless of skin color, because of their socio-economic conditions. Sure, guns make an easy villain, like pit bulls, but why not tackle the real issues! No schools, no infrastructure, no jobs... that's not race, but that's the card you chose to play.
lazerz4eyez 6 months ago
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@lazerz4eyez "A race issue?" What?!
As for the "infrastructure," again, the aforementioned criminals all came from solid homes, schools, and except for Casey Anthony (who lied about working @ Universal Studios)-they ALL had jobs! So what made them become lawless? Ignoring these facts is your avenue to run away from the "real issues."
Btw, when people refer to racial issues about Blacks, here they come with that "race card" bullshit! Talk about a Jew, and they're anti-semite.
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
Unfortunately the dumb shit republican is right and the dumb shit democrat is absolutely wrong. You can't fix the problems by making laws that violate the constitution; you fix the problem by improving your law enforcement and your economy. If these assholes want to change the second amendment then they MUST submit a constitutional amendment for ratification by the states.
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1 Mrs. Waters wasn't trying to undermine the constitution. Again, she knows, like anyone with a brain, what this skank is plotting.
I'm surprised Michele isn't up there promoting, "these people have the right to sell drugs to one another. They have to support their families. Besides, it will help them get off of welfare, thus promoting job growth in their communities! This is nothing more than profiling."-Michele Bachmann
I can't give a better example than that.
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
@whiteliberal1
I see no difference in both you liberal progressives and the social conservatives/right-wing (Christians); both groups have their own agendas and neither fit any concepts of liberty and freedom. Political agendas are designed to rule; NOT to serve! Politicians know they can only rule the parasites that feed off the system; that's why liberals want to create more parasites! If you are a government employee or you receive government entitlements then you are a parasite!
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1
There are some people, not all, that have fallen on hard times in their lives. I have a friend (female) who I served with as a Marine in Panama. She was medically discharged, and basically had to live on what they gave her. With two kids to support and no way of working (a lost limb) she had to depend a "govt. entitlement." In your miserable eyes, I guess she's a "parasite?!"
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
@whiteliberal1
Where is the father of your friend's children? Do you give her any assistance?
I was a volunteer at our local VA hospital; your friend's sad story does not compare to those I've seen there. You only hear about those killed in action but nothing about those maimed during their service to our country; in many cases those who died were the lucky ones. Our government is out of control and entitlements are only one of the minor problems; asinine wars are the major problems.
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1 You asked, "where's the father of your friend's children?" He died from "Leukemia!"
I wasn't trying to give you a "sad story" to compare to others. You were the one who called people who receive welfare, "Parisites." If she served her country (honorably) and payed her due taxes, then why would she be considered a parisite? I guess losing a limb isn't "sad" enough for you, eh?
Btw, don't blame her for the "asinine" wars, you ingrate skank!
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
@whiteliberal1
So what kind of government job do you have? It's obvious that you are also one of the shit-for-brains liberal parasites feeding off those who actually have real jobs and contribute to society.
BTW: I haven't heard anyone use the term "skank" in over 40 years; either your mother was a skank or you're an old dickhead white trash liberal!
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1
What difference does it make about my job? Again, you called a DISABLED American Veteran, who LOST her limbs, husband (Luekemia) and has to support her kids on her own via government programs, a "Parasite." I was honorably discharged from the Marine Corps. (E-6 Gunnery Sgt.). You talk about Vets are part of the problem of these wars? You're stll blaming our Military for wars?
What have you done to make America a better place?
Now, why don't you respond to Dienda, skank!
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
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@whiteliberal1 Hey, don't let that asshole get to you. You're awesome. I appreciate you, and will gladly support you all of your years!
JyginsGreenBird 6 months ago
@whiteliberal1 (WAIT, pass that sentiment on to your friend, haha!)
JyginsGreenBird 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1 if you got your head out your ass, you'd realize that most white trash and trailer trash that DONT work hard for a living and are "parasites" are conservatives, not liberals. and you havent heard skank in over 40 years? well, i certainly have never heard of white trash being liberal. lmao.
soccersj93 6 months ago
@soccersj93
Politicians know they can manipulate you young dumb shits to vote for them or spread their propaganda; you're the one with your head up your ass and it's pathetic that you don't even realize it! Go back to your whanker whacking until you get your IQ above your waistline!
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1 haha, now youre insulting my intelligence? i guarantee you my SAT score is higher than yours was, and i certainly dont believe you graduated your high school with an IB diploma. hun, the best thing you can do is bequiet because you're only insulting people and not making YOUR argument any stronger. and us "young dumb shits" vote for liberals BECAUSE of their "propaganda", the "propaganda" that allows for more rights for more people, and a more financially equal society.
soccersj93 6 months ago
@soccersj93
How can I insult something you DON'T have? Your last sentence in your post proves that you are nothing more than an absolute moron!
You don't even realize just how dumb and stupid you are; do you?
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
@MsWanderer1 its obvious you dont have any bias in everything you say, right? does it make you feel better to insult a person thats much younger than you? because if it does, then i truly feel sorry for you. and quite honestly, im glad that my generation is keeping the people who represent asses like you out of office. (;
soccersj93 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1 You have the nerve!
Here you are, claiming that a Veteran who lost her limb in Panama, and whose husband has past away from Luekemia, is a parasite! This Veteran does depend on govt. assistance to help her in her time of need. She's raising her kids the best way she can. She's paid enough dues to ask for federal assistance. It's the least they can do. Also, you blamed her and the other Vets. for the wars?
Henceforth, respond to Dienda since you won't respond back to me.
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1 Start something you can't finish?
Again, you called a United States Veteran a parasite? All because she lost her left leg in Panama? Then you asked, "where's her husband" to further prove she's a parasite sponging off of the government. I answered that as well. Her husband is deceased! He died after battling (Luekemia).
She has asked and received federal assistance to help with her children. But you see her as a parasite who is responsible for wars.
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
@whiteliberal1
You seem to think that all parasites are detrimental to the host; some are symbiotic. All military people are or have been symbiotic parasites that contribute to the host’s wellbeing; others like you are simply feeders that will feed until you kill the host! Only ignorant fools like you think they win a debate by outlasting their opponents with their nonsense; go troll some of your dumb shit buddies or wise-up!
BTW: all liberals are detrimental parasites..!..
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
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@MsWanderer1 "Nonsense?"
Again, if you call a military veteran who is disabled w/kids and raising them alone, due to the death of her husband, a parasite, then, only a skank like you can consider me calling you out for that as a, "troll."
Seriously, a troll? I answered your questions:
"Where is her husband"
"Why is she receiving 'welfare'?"
When I answered, you attempted to slither your pathetic ass away from the conversation. Hence the reason I kept hammering away @ your foolish Ass!
whiteliberal1 6 months ago
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@whiteliberal1 Go away troll; you're stuttering..!..
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
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@whiteliberal1
BTW: Only losers like you that can't tolerate truth will leave a comment on my channel page and then block me from responding to your comment on your channel page.
MsWanderer1 6 months ago
She's a good lady to back the Second Amendment on behalf of those living in public housing. Now let's hear from some of you black folks that you appreciate what she's doing.
guyNbluejeans 6 months ago
@guyNbluejeans - I think Michele Bachmann should have to live in public housing perhaps in Compton, California for 6 months before deciding any gun laws. She is so far out of touch with reality it is laughable. I am all for the 2nd amendment, but MY tax dollars pays for public housing, so this issue needs further study. It is easy to make rules about another community when you have no idea what that community is like.
phillipmarch22 6 months ago
@phillipmarch2 Sort of like you have to be a chicken to recognize an egg, right?
You sound crazy when you say in one sentence that Bachmann is out of touch with reality due to her supporting the gun rights of those law-abiding people in the projects but then say that you're all for the Second Amendment. And you then top it off with saying more studies are needed.
Here's what's needed: Tell welfare moms to not have kids if they can't afford them. Tell them to get educated and improve their lot.
guyNbluejeans 6 months ago
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@guyNbluejeans - The problem in the "Projects" is that there are not a lot of law abiding citizens and there is usually no deer hunting in the projects. And you obviously don't know about "welfare" Moms either. You can't sit on your ass and make babies and collect welfare. You have a certain time to either be going to school or get employed or they drop you. It is an old wives tale that you can just collect state aid and sit on your ass. Looks like you are out of touch with reality.
phillipmarch22 6 months ago
@phillipmarch22 You don't know what you're talking about. Welfare queens have been doing it forever so they can get bigger checks, we all know it's true.
guyNbluejeans 6 months ago