Kibaki & Odinga: Possible Election Rigging

[kiambas]

you know what Kenya needs.....Wangari Maathai!!! THAT is who should have ran for presidency!! I will continue to pray for the day that she will lead Kenya into a prosperous future!! If Liberia can do it then so can Kenya! You dont win a Nobel Peace Prize for being a corrupt politician! She has been setting an example of what a real leader should be, now if only those pig headed men would listen!

[sigalame]

When all of you learn that you will only live in this world for 70 years if you are lucky enough that is,then you will realise some things are sheer foolishness to fight for. You came here uchi and you will go uchi. As for me am taking care of my soul its the only thing am assured will take me to the next level. "my people perish for luck of knowledge" says the lord.

[njeriz]

People need to think before they act. Do you think either Kibaki or Raila care about you? Do you think they will say "oh thank you for killing or the kikuyu or luo and now I will personally give you this huge sum of money and you and your family will be set for life". I come from a multi racial multi tribal family, and this BS has been the worst tragedy that has ever happened to my family. Raila lost the election and still wants to be president. He should accept defeat and try again next time.

[kamausk]

are stupid or what you all know tha lios are only known for one thing and that is rioting if they take over state house thats the end of kenya as we know it

[dioneshontia]

ati people r negotiating with annan and the muthafucka kibaki is transporting mungiki in eldoret ruto kanyaga yote fikisha hao naivasha na maasai wa take over sukuma hadi central nairobi ni ya maasai,until they learn to respect other kenyans.

[amanijuu08]

uko brainwashed kabisa. stop calling for war.

raila lost and no amount of domo is going to change that fact. please accept it. if he has complaints, go to court.

[dioneshontia]

mine is simple dont waste time with kiuks,tumewavumilia ya kutosha,luos voted for kibs have u seen a kiuk voting for raila nada,saizi other tribes have nothing so chafua yote kila mtu akose,nairobi pia ni ya maasai,raila ongeza joseph kony wa l.r.a kwa equation the acholi are our cousins,leta bunduki vijana wamalize kazi.

[slnatis]

Kenyans...kenyans..whats all this?KENYA NI NCHI YETU!Rigging elections or not.....where is the proff?what are our so called leaders teachign the younger ones?Its high time those EGOISTIC men to wake up and have a look at how their egos are destroying our beautiful country!Come on.....Raila.......kibaki,solv­e this!KENYA NI NCHI YETU!Fighting and tribalism is not and will never be the answer

[tamaduni]

mau mau? where are the mungiki and mau mau Kikiyus brag about -if you think thats whats gonna save you from 25 million other kenyan tribes - may ngai aid your poor thieving souls

[amanijuu08]

both sides rigged, so both kibaki & raila's numbers are both inflated, but result is probably right.

exit polls on day showed kibaki 47%, raila 44%... eck official results: kibaki 47%, raila 44%.

odm's unwillingness to go to court tells me they know raila lost in reality.

[gumacyare]

who inflated Raila's numbers ? was'nt the government and the ECK in charge of the elections? who appointed the election commissioners in the first place and if the figures you gave was right, why wouldn't they inflate the figures by 47% for both Kibaki and Raila? you need to think well before you write any comment.

[amanijuu08]

no. the government is not in charge of elections. eck is. do you know police and pnu agents were denied entry to polling stations in nyanza, or do you not care?

and i'm glad you brought up the figures. the exit polls actually gave 50% kibaki, 40% raila. eck results: 47% kibaki, 44% raila.

don't take my word for it. look it up yourself.

[amanijuu08]

this is not a defence of kibaki & pnu by the way... just that i think people should stop calling names and actually examine the figures and numbers and all evidence before we come to any conclusions. i think that is more sensible! any crisis is only made worse by rumour and namecalling.

[hustlebro]

WHERE ARE YOU FROM?there are 8 provinces if you dont know.and among the 8 raila led in 5 and nairobi he got almost the same.why would you find that eligible voters in molo are 68,000 while kibaki gets 120,000 did the dade vote for him or am i wrong in this and does it mean that in molo there are no supporters of kalonzo leave alone raila?

[amanijuu08]

These are false results you have my friend. The truth is coming to light. Kibaki won 4 provinces, Raila won 4. Kibaki's lowest score was around 15% in Nyanza, Raila scored 2% in Central and 6% in Eastern.

Molo does not have 68,000 eligible voters. Please research your facts.

[iyvh]

Yes, it sounds like a case of the wezi.

The better mwizi got to statehouse. Mwizi wetu, si mwizi wenu is what this whole fighting is all about.

[hustlebro]

so does it mean that kibaki leads in 3provinces out of 8 what happened to the other 5,who leads in in the five i know u csnt give a straight answer,the next time check among kenyans who do they like?KIBAKI GOT 36mps for God´s sake and raila´s odm???????????????????????

[amanijuu08]

PNU got around 30 mp's. You are forgetting that Kanu, Safina, Narc-K, Sisi kwa Sisi, Ford-K etc. were all backing Kibaki also.

4 million plus Kenyans voted for Kibaki. 4 million plus for Raila. That is who Kenyans like.

[aokoh]

HAKUNA USAWA KENYA

[RosebudOfCane]

Is any election safe anymore? Does democracy even exist anymore? I ask you. But one can only hope that the solution will come through peaceful protest, which is the best anyone can do when a country's leadership may be misrepresenting the people.

[iyvh]

If you listened to Raila, you'd think Kibaki only got one vote from an old woman in central. However, on close examination one can see that Kibaki got 15% of the vote in Nyanza, 30% in western, over 30% in Coast and Eastern and his required 25% in the RV.

Raila's supporters started celebrating before all the votes were counted and when all the polls had said that this would be a close election. And now look what they are doing-self destructing & looking desparate.

[jbgk07]

yes there were irregularities... at no time can elections have over 90% voter turnout from alego to nithi

[thigira]

It's official:

Kikuyus it's high time we realize this is not a simple election results issue. Wake up and open ur eyes to this deep rooted resentment of our great tribe. They're literally raping us men & women combined. Does Mau mau's fighting spririt still run in ur veins?

[mcmagicx]

You are the best example that literacy does not change the stupid African mentality.Stay thick!

[TheBritishWatcher]

sounds to me like the elections were certainly rigged, however the opposition leaders need to calm things down and stop this violence from damaging the nation more than it has already.

They need to stop encouraging mass protests which leads to violence and bloodshed and focus on seeking support from the international community.

Not much point in trying to become leader of a country if u dont have one to lead. Violence isnt the answer.

[Sukuma22]

What was the hurry to be sworn in...this is bullshit..you guys act shocked...look at the deeper issues that affect the ordinary mwanainchi..poverty, disease, hunger slum dwellings..while the few elite bask on thier backs with not a care in the world. It is ill advised to resort to violence..but what else do they know.. their very existence is in a violent world. Many of us grew up in suburbs and have no idea what real life is like in Kenya...Pray for leadership as i dont see it.

[Adenmussa]

I think Raila won the elections you can tell from the way most of kibakis cabinet ministers couldnt retain their seats. But all what kenyans wants is to maintain its cherished peace and love 4 one another. i pray for peace and solutions to be found to solve this crisis peacefully.

[shillingimoja]

These acts of violence display the uncivilized nature of our citizens. There is a judicial process that is in place to handle matters like this and Kenyans should peacefully wait for this process to work. Anything other than that is just shameful.

[muma2005]

Kibaki and Raila are millionares in Kenya and what thez want now is extreme power and how to dish it. Kibaki as well as Raila are right but the poor majorityliving in the slums turn to be stupid ones. No and I say no change will make us different other than the way we act. Ballots are secrete way of voting and should not kill my neighbour who have voted otherwise or because he is from another tribe.Maybe if Raila won more would be dead by this day!

[thigira]

Uhh..I've been waiting for this a long time...some sense!

[thigira]

I would have detested gravely, but the thought of burning down a church full of helpless women and children sure wouldn't have crossed ma mind.

Why r u and everyone else pretending this isn't a tribal feud? And this Raila, he didn't even do anything that can fill a test tube as an MP whilst Mwai...never mind

[foballa]

theres consequences for every action,i cannot support bloodletting,how does one rule wen the all arms of gvt r divided,u have minority mps,facing trade embargo,wanainchi dont recognize u,ur assets and acconuts can be frozen abroad and possibly face a war crimes and genocide tribunal in the future,let everybody sit down and the right thing done,otherwise all of us as kenyans with reltives will be affected in one way or the other.

[Patdisel]

If Raila was to become president I can assure you, he too will have his shortcomings. Life would still be the same if not worse for those goons running around looting and committing despicable acts of carnage towards innocent struggling wanainchi whose only crime is their ethnicity, while the leaders whom they claim to fight for relish in opulence at their expense. Say no to Violence

[ottycha]

Tribalism aside. RAILA is the rightful president of Kenya even emilio mwai comprehend this statement. So if emilio really cares about the common Kenya, can he step out of the stolen presidential seat so that killings can stop? After emilio steps down, President Raila will be willing to "RECONCILE". But only when he has seen some justice. Any other RECONCILIATION will be fake. Can Honorable the President of Kenya, RAILA ODINGA get some justice here?

[muma2005]

Raila is wrong as he had declared himself president when parliament was dissolved and before counting was ended. Why should some want others to think like them? Raila drummed support for Kivuitu, now he call him shots. Raila should emurate Kibaki way at refferedrum or Saitoti when rigged out by Moi in favor of Uhuru.

[thigira]

So...now that Kibaki has been sworn in, all you haters leave me thouroughly confused. Do you want to stage a coup de tat or should Kibaki just sincerely apologize for rigging the elections and hand over presidency to this kihii?

[anonnemus]

you don't just deny the people their right and plant yourself in power for another FIVE YEARS and think that you can "sincerely apologize" and everything will be oh-just-fine. the people don't want a coup..Kibaki has seriously violated the people; whether or not his plans are benevolent, that side of the scale is insignificant at this point. The man doesn't even bother to deny it..

[thigira]

Uhh..anonnemus..this apology stuff..I was being sarcastic. Now I'm "sincerely apologising" that ur so slow

[ckblaise]

i made a brave attempt to read all this posts but honestly it was to much. just remeba all thos ppl who obtained a voters card. al thos ppl who voted all thos ppl whom all hopes were pinned on thier voters card. i am kenyan. infact i am kikuyu. but i shall say this. kenyan ppl were let down. any1 who goes down the tribal lines should think twice. this is no longer the old kenya we are used to. in the end we shall overcome all this stupidity and enthnic borderlines.

[thigira]

You sound like a cat in a mouse meeting. In layman's terms...ur credibility as a Kikuyu is being highly questioned here

[anonnemus]

Thigira, how would you like it if Raila had rigged (and won) an election that Kibaki was undoubtedly going to win?

[ckblaise]

hahahaha. my you should be questioning my credibility as a kenyan. this kind of mentality is potentially explosive. ahve we not learned from our fellow africans ? your credibility as a grown man is in question here. perhaps ur the one who is un circumcised. i blame your up bringing and lack of common sense.

[thigira]

We are not living in the 50's? You build a house on a foundation punk and you can't tuck away in ur funky ass where u came from.

Did u smarts really want to change planes mid air? Progress was already on the way..u just want a taste of power

[KioKenya]

Wow. How profound!!! You have painted a precise picture. Odinga and his posse were eager to ride in a presidential motorcade.

[aposhe83]

kenyans are no longer living in the 50s. all they are doing is letting malicious kibaki and his fools know that they can no longer be fooled. all the tribes should combine and go against the corrupt bunch of lunnies.

[thigira]

SAVAGES:

This poll results don't have any incosistencies; what I see is misconception. I think the user that drew a line between Kenyans and Kikuyus is just plain ignorant. You forget the history of this great land. Independence was achieved courtesty of the blood shed by Kikuyus (MAU MAU.

Swallow your bitter pill and accept defeat.

Where's Mungiki in all this fracas? Teach these Omena Mongers a little lesson about circumcision.

[zawadi2007]

You should be ashamed of your above comments total bull crap!!!Among other things you are completely delusional and in denial if you believe "this poll results do not have any inconsistencies".

[thedee254]

those diving into this argument ill informed with the mentality that its our pple against them are wrong! its not about the kikuyus but the problem we have is with a bunch of pple who think that their will shall be imposed upon others!kibaki is the devil and he makes it seemm as if every kikuyu is behind him!i tell u i have kikuyu pals who would jump at the opportunity of punchinkg kibaki's face in!its a fight against those who want to defile kenya and our democracy!

[OTIYAH]

Kibaki is a useless loser? Atime has come that he should learn to accept defeat together with his sucking wife, whom do they want to govern with only 35 mps? by the way even awory moody is out? oooh such a shame but most of all to the wananchi being maimed, tortured and killed in vain. Lets pray for our counrty for peace to reign otherwise kenya is gonna end like sudan or somali.

[Akkinah]

what was Kibaki and his cronies thinking? he and his buds are acting like they have totaly lost their heads... what are they smoking?

[longbeachian]

RICH and POOR, that is it! Not Kalenjin, Luhyia, Luo, Kikuyu or whatever tribe you chose. If you have the money, you have the power. That is why not all Kalenjins or Kikuyus are rich. And not even 25% of them for that matter.

[mrgabbs10]

This time round trust me,its gonna be Kenyans vs a group of people.Its just the begining of a long walk home!

[daluta]

I really thought that kenyan politics had grown and people were using their brains. Its not all kiuks voted for Kibaki or Its not all luos voted for Raila. Shame on yourselves all you TRIBALISTS. Things can work out if you just sit down and talk about your differences.

[daluta]

Am really pissed off with this kind of behaviour . If anyone has a problem go and talk to the person rather than the common man suffering for things that he is not responsible for.

how would you feel if somebody burnt your stuff which you acquired for years. You worked hard for the all this time and then in a second they are all gone.

[deekui]

I salute the two kenyans who says there is only two tribes in kenya, POOR and RICH. Why should a poor kibera dweller burn his/her neighbours???? raila and them kibakis are in their welthies enjoying,please kenyans think about wat you doing.

[mbilimacho]

Ever heard of the term "guilty by association"?

[kapkir]

Be sure that when Moi come to your aid or support, he has all the recipes you need to win...Kibaki was not a fool when he

be-friended Moi;these were red flags written all over our faces! I remember Moi say "whoever I support never fails"...Well, now we can see what he meant...

[rallymadkassam]

You have a very valid point there kapkir.

Well stated!!

[zawadi2007]

Definate rigging by Kibaki and his cronies but they still need to learn a thing or two about it,cause they really sucked at it.The sad thing is that its his fellow tribes pple who will pay a high price for it at the hands of other Kenyan's what a shame.

[kapkir]

Zawadi, on the same note; I really dont know what they are going to do with only 35 mps.ooh boy, things will be looking pretty ugly soon..

[mbilimacho]

The hastily conducted ceremony is proof. Why the hurry? Why muzzle the media?

[mrgabbs10]

Well you hurry up when u running away and u dont want pple to see you!You muzzle the media and do stuff in the dark only if you are a criminal!But everybody knows it!But aint gonna stop people from putting their ponts across!Have u ever seen where one gets more than 100% voter turn out?Only in Kenya!

[bezzion]

Its Kenyans versus Kikuyu's the mess starts now!! God Help us all

[shaugi]

NO VIOLENCE!!

The only tribe sin kenya are the rich and the poor. The people you are fighting for are not worth losing life or limb for. They are now sitting comfortably in their mansions watching you the poor going for each other's throats. If we go the Rwanda way they will dissapear with their families to their second homes abroads and we are the ones who will suffer. How can poor people burn another poor mans shanty in Kibera? Wake up Kenya!! Let peace prevail!

[mrgabbs10]

Well i agree with you.But remember the poor made their choice.Someone stole it.How do u change such a mindset?

[angangaus]

its over. why did raila dump kalonzo?? he must be tearing himself for that blunder!! lmfao

[kinkedsir]

Yes.there were irregularities prompting inconsistencies.However with such a small margin either candidate wins.

ODM rules the parliament and PNU has the presidency.Its not worth the fight to try contest such a small difference.Let Kenya grow up instead of worshiping leaders. We need to work on what matters most, bring food to our families

[sigei3]

Yes I think there was rigging because how could kibaki gain that many votes over the course of two days when he was that far behind raila