Condoleezza Rice for European Union President. Condi in the ring.

[SexyLiLLeilaniMya]

Its such a shame that she is serious when she says she has no want to hold national office and rather just stay behind teaching at Stanford and writing she would make a wonderful President of the United States!

[JinRenegade]

Never going to happen. Condoleeza Rice is from the US, nobody would vote for her and she wouldn't even be allowed, the same way a person from Europe or any other foreign place in the world wouldn't be allowed to become the president of the US (although, they be a governor e.g. Arnold Schwarznegger came from Austria and is the governor for California)

[fionn18]

this is a joke right? a yank as the president of the eu council? the arrogance to think that we need more American influence in Europe. isn't it illegal in America for a foreigner to be the

i'm all the best person for the job but its not someone from the former bush

administration

[riceforpresident]

fionn18 - No that smeg-head Van Rompuy is the joke.

I am a Scot. The really arrogant ones are from Europe - the monarchies, esp. the Windsors.

Stuff the new EU law and constitution which says that we don't get to elect our EU President. That is undemocratic in my book.

We don't just want "someone" to do "a heck of a job". We should want Condi because she IS the best person to be president.

Too much to debate here, please register with the For Freedom Forums

[kotovsergey]

Pleasant video and this has some fun.

As concerns the main idea of it (=plot), I regard complexly,a conclusion isn't evident,however the thought is original.

Condoleezza is charm,beautiful and perfect like always!

[MrMcQ2u]

How many of you have actually done research on the current candidates, is this women the most qualified because she is american and recognizable to you?

I mean jeeze, this is just too stupid for my liking.

Its almost like a sick joke which anti-eu morons are using as a new tactic to scare people.

If thats the case, congrats, your original.

[riceforpresident]

MrMcQ2u - Most of the candidates talked about are established royalist politicians from countries with a royal as head of state, king, queen, duke whatever.

If such a royalist becomes President of Europe that will make their monarch he remains the subject of, the new king of Europe.

Hence why the European kingdoms are pushing their top lackeys like Blair to run for President so that they can expand their kingdom to all of Europe.

We MUST have a republican and Condi is the best.

[MrMcQ2u]

Sorry but I refuse to take that answer seriously.

Not all canditates are publicly known yet and the majority are not from royalist countries.

Choosing a republican would be just as damaging as choosing a royalist politician.

And I find it hard to believe that we cannot find the right person for the job within the eu territories.

I don't know why I am getting worked up over this, this has about as much chance of happening as my cat articulating its political views.

[MrMcQ2u]

I mean you don't even know anything about the lisbon treaty, never mind the treaties that went before it.

And you think your opinion is valid, how the hell do you know who is best for the job.

Your view is so blatantly subjective it smacks you in the face.

Sorry but I wont base my view from subjective information.

Maybe you would have a better time trying to get Americans to vote for a Non-US citizen as their president.

[MrMcQ2u]

And lastly, we tend to do things differently in the EU, we don't care about the presidents dog.

We care if they are doing their jobs correctly.

We still have impartial news stations and we would like to keep it that way.

Our regulatory offices do not take bribes from corporations and we would like to keep it that way.

There is not a chance in hell people would allow this, never mind choose someone from the former bush administration.

[MrMcQ2u]

What you people are proposing is the equivalent of me proposing John Bruton become US president.

Just because he was ambassador for the EU to the US does not make him qualified for the job.

I have a funny feeling this has to be a joke. There were enough countries uneasy about the Lisbon treaty in the first place, proposing a us citizen as president will only go to magnify the chances of the EU breaking up.

Out of interest how many people with an opinion here actually live in the EU?

[MrMcQ2u]

Ok, Well I have read it and what I am trying to explain is that it is a bad idea making someone who does not live in any of the EU member states the EU president.

The EU president should be accountable to the EU citizens.

We are all human including her and I don't think her vested interest would be the European citizens.

She might be a good candidate for US presidency but she has no idea what the issues are in Europe because she has not lived with them first hand.

[haszo]

Condoleezza Rice should be dragged in front of the International Criminal Court and tried for War Crimes. The only place I want to see her in Europe is in the dock at the Hague along with Bush, Cheney, Blair and the rest.

[riceforpresident]

haszo - Well you have much in common with those who dragged Galileo in front of the Roman inquisition for daring to say that the earth went around the sun.

So, Pope before science then?

War is not a crime if it is for justice, freedom and democracy.

She is no more a criminal than Éamon de Valera who fought for Irish freedom.

Is it only freedom-fighting political scientists like Condi you want to punish, whereas terrorists and dictators you think should get off with their crimes?

[haszo]

I don't give damn what you think a War Crime is, it is laid out in international law. It not a debatable point.

The United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan said in September 2004 that: "From our point of view and the UN Charter point of view, it [the war] was illegal."

The Security Council may only authorise the use of force against an "aggressor". Iraq was not an aggressor, it had not attacked the United States or the United Kingdom.

Not to mention Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay.

[riceforpresident]

haszo - You only care about what Popes think?

Pope Pius thought war against Hitler was a crime and your "Pope" Annan thought war against Saddam was a crime even though AGGRESSOR Saddam had broken every law in the UN Charter and declaration of Human Rights.

In neither case did we freedom fighters waste much time debating law with the papist cowards with their inquistion ways.

No your Pope didn't mention Abu Ghraib when for years Saddam used that place to torture, murder and rape.

[MrMcQ2u]

Correct me if I am wrong but is she not american. Why should we have an american president for the European Union?

Seems pretty ridiculous when you think about it.

[riceforpresident]

MrMcQ2u - Can an American become the President of Europe?

Why not?

Europe does not have closed borders - no-one has set up a new iron curtain have they? People come from all over the world to study and to work in Europe. I have Indians living to my left, right and above me and most welcome they are.

If you have skills anywhere in the world, Europe has a job for you - this is true in the private and public sectors, so what's the problem?

[riceforpresident]

It would be stupid and self-harming not to hire the best in the world for Europe's MOST important job, president of the EU and Condi is the best, so hire her.

How hard can it be to make Rice a citizen of a EU member country if that was the rule? After they captured him in WW2, the Americans made Wernher von Braun the German rocket scientist (who was working for Hitler trying to bomb us all to hell) an American citizen didn't they, and so got to the moon?

[riceforpresident]

So what matters is if the foreigner has the skills that your union needs.

Citizenships can be granted if required I suppose.

There is supposed to be a new EU constitution - I think they call it "the Lisbon Treaty" or something. Has anyone here read it? I have not but The Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union looks good and I didn't see anything in there about "Americans not welcome".

[riceforpresident]

I know the US constitution says you need to have been born in the USA to become president, though not to be elected a state governor. Well Europe should improve upon that rule.

See this video's (more info) for links to the For Freedom Forums where this can be discussed properly.