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  • Another stream of bullshit from those lying anti-freedom trash at ProtestEasyGuns.

  • What does Virginia Tech have to do with gun shows? The nut head bought his 2 glock semi automatic pistols at a gun shop and he had to go through a background check and he was on the ban list. But he passed it which that means government has failed to stop him. Why are they pointing their fingers to gun shows when the truth is that they should be pointing their fingers to the government. Bunch of stupid morons

  • If it wasn't so sad I would find it amusing. These people that lost a loved one dedicating their lives to get more gun laws. It is a totally misguided effort. There are 1,000s of studies on gun control & crime rates and it makes no diff and there is some evidence gun control raises crime rates. They are driven by emotion in an attempt to feel they have some control or will make a diff. It is like someone with a terminal illness chasing a false snake oil cure.

  • If I was a crazy lunatic willing to kill people, would I go to shoot up a police station? Or a college where no guns are allowed? Just think about that before making stupid comments...

  • This is absurd. . . If that son of a bitch tried shooting up University of Colorado (where you can have a concealed weapon) He would have been SHOT DEAD on the spot. But these fucking pussies around here would never allow something that makes that much sense to happen. The asshole that shot up VT bought the guns LEGALLY! Sorry our kids were massacred...BUT THEY WOULD ALL BE ALIVE IF THEY CARRIED GUNS!!!!!

  • His district is in financial distress because of the fact that his district has illegal immigrants who dont pay taxes and are a drain on the economic system.If these illegal inferior scum were dealt with and either deported or executed(I prefer the latter)then the financial problems would be greatly lessened.Lets face facts,if the VTech chink gunman hadnt been in this country in the 1st place 33 people would be alive.His parents cant even speak english even though they have been here a long time

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  • Sorry, buy background checks at gun shows will not stop these massacres. Criminals will ALWAYS find ways to get guns, no matter how "hard" you "think" you can make it.

  • The corrupt government we have is afraid of an armed populace. That fear needs to remain in place.

  • Absulutly!! It's not the government though . It's the money changers.

  • Why do these tech victim parents care about this? The fucking gook who shot them bought the weapons legally.

  • THANK YOU!! 2ND AMENDMENT!!

  • omars fit

  • "Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."

    (Sara Brady-- Chairman, Handgun Control, to Sen. Howard Metzanbaum,"The National Educator," January 1994, Page 3 )

    This is what gun control is about. It is not about guns, it is about control.

  • And for the people that are worried about everyone going to buy 50 guns in a single day..... $300 is a cheap gun but if you bought 50, $300 guns, you would need $15,000 + tax. Normal peopel don't have that kind of cash just lying around.

  • It's not a gunshow loophole. Gun dealers that sell at shows have to do background checks. When these people are trying to do is stop private citizens from selling the guns they own to other citizens that might be interested in buying. Yes, you can se gun dealers breaking the law and selling a gun without a background check, but it's pretty rare. It's costs a lot of money to be a gun dealer and if they're caught, they lose their FFL and their business for good.

  • If you do a NICS background check, it has nothing to do with asking a criminal a question where they would incriminate themselves.

    No, owing a gun is not a human right, it's a constitutional right.

    You need to read back over all my comments. I am 100% pro-gun, own many, and I am an NRA Member. My comments are only to explain to people that keep saying there is no gun show loophole. When I refer to politicians I am only explaining their thoughts on how they want to add more laws.

  • Here is my problem with the "gun show loophole" idea. It is not an issue with gun shows, but private sale in general. What they are talking about is private sales that occur between two private citizens, while at a gun show. No different than when you buy a gun from a friend at his home. The only difference is the location of the sale. The legislation in question would ban all private transfer, even ones that take place outside of a gun show. (continued)

  • (continued) To call it a "gun show loophole" is disingenuous at best. If the anti-gunners called it what is really is, "the prohibition of any and all private transfer of a firearm bill" they would have absolutely no chance of passing it in VA. If it was about gun shows, it would apply only to gun shows, but it does not. So, in my mind, the "gun show loophole" is a deliberate attempt to mislead the public into supporting laws prohibiting the sale of private property.

  • You are 100% correct. It's the same as how they pulled off and scared the public into "Assault Weapons Ban", that has no Assault Weapons listed in the ban. The term "gun show loophole" makes for good scary 6:00 news media. To call it something like the "private citizen to private citizen gun sale ban" just does not have the same scare to it. Also because at a gun show you can buy 50 guns in one day if you want. Not so easy to accomplish is someone's living room.

  • I agree. Their next step would be to outlaw all gunshows. Then gun stores. It's all little steps the anti gunners are trying to take to rid the American citizen of the right to keep and bear arms. Then comes registration so when they ban guns totally, they know who has guns and what house to take the police to so they can take those guns from us. Then the rest of the constitution can be thrown out and we can have ourselves a nice little dictatorship.

  • I put the text of the 10th amendment in my last post. So, where does it say in the Constitution that the Federal Govt. has the power to regulate the sale of firearms. They are overstepping their bounds. I don't know if you are aware, but over 20 states have filed state sovereignty resolutions because of the Feds. claiming of powers that rightfully belong to the states. I am not saying that the Feds haven't done it in the past, I am saying that the Constitution does not give them the power.

  • Cho didn't get his gun from a gun show in the first place. How would "closing the loophole" prevent something like Virginia Tech?

  • What is the "OBSESSION" with wanting to close the "so called loophole" & to re-enact the assault weapons ban? Does anyone that doesn't have a bunch of well trained heavily armed body guards following them around everywhere they go honestly believe that by passing more restrictions is going to keep people from killing others? This is nothing more than "Govt. Control". They want to "Control" every aspect of the voters life just so they can do whatever they please without any resistence.

  • The "obsession" , my friend, is that it is merely a ruse to completely ban the private sale of private handguns among law abiding citizens. They are using the fiction of a "loophole" to suck in stupid liberal citizens who do not know any better.

    They want to make sure you wont give your children or youur brother your gun

  • Seung-Hui Cho bought his firearms at a federally licensed dealer, NOT AT A GUN SHOW, who ran the appropriate NICS background check. It was a tragic overlook by the authorities in the background check, but was no fault of a gun show.

  • If your worried about someone shooting you get a gun and learn how to use it. The odds of that happening are very low. You have a far better chance from getting killed by the flu. What are you gonna do, lock up all the people who dont cover when sneezing or sue the cold medicin industry? America is founded on liberty and freedom. If you are unwilling to accept the risk of living in a free country get the hell out. There is plenty of room south of the border or the African continent.

  • All I know is that they better not take my M134 or M104....

  • M134? isn't that a mini gun?

    How can you afford that much ammo?

  • If you take away guns and people start using ball bats are we going to outlaw bats.

    Do crooks obey the law? no! It is the lack of God that murders people. There is good and evil in this world.

    It is evil that kills. We all should treat others as we want to be treated.

  • People like this do not understand logic. If every gun disappeared tomorrow you'd see on the news about some felon robbing a store with a Paslode nail gun...

  • THERE IS NO GUNSHOW LOOPHOLE any law like these will do nothing except limit our liberity to sell our firearms with out looseing a major chunck of your money to a licensed dealer.

  • Yes there is a loophole.

    In 24 States if you have a criminal record you can go to a gun show with just you Drivers License and buy as many pistols you want from Pirate sellers. In my State the Buyer must have a Police issued Pistol Purchase Permit that the Seller must sign so a Criminal cannot buy a pistol legally from anyone in my State. New Jersey.

    The loophole only applies to 24 States. Politicians want to make it a Federal Law.

  • I have been a dealer for 23 years You dudes are talking out of your ass.

    Mr. Cho had a background done on him and purchased his firearms from a FFL.

    If we pass a mandatory national carry the numbers of victims would be reduced because every one would be armed to the teeth.

    Better check on the Grundy School of Law shooting. I think ARMED students stopped the killer in that incident.

    JP in 10-E-C

  • You will never stop the Cho's of the world. He's the exception, not the rule, i.e. People with criminal histories. FYI I'm 100% Pro-Gun. I know all about the Appalachian School of Law shooting and refer to it often.

    FYI:

    March 06, 2008, Religious School massacre: Religious school, Mercaz HaRav yeshiva in Jerusalem, Israel. 9 dead and 11 wounded. The attacker with a fully automatic AK-47 was stopped by student, Yitzhak Dadon, who shot the attacker twice with his personal firearm.

  • You can't talk logic to these idiots, they think that more laws will stop people from doing something that is already illegal. It's illegal to rob a store too, making guns illegal will not stop robberies.

  • You just admited it's not a loophole. It is ALREADY illegal for them to buy them. You are again showing your stupidity if you think forcing a "police issude card" on everyone is going to change anything. YOU JUST SAID "from pirate sellers" With your stupid effing law those felons are STILL going to buy illegal guns from those same pirate sellers. The ONLY thing that will change is the infringement on the rights of the lawful owner. You Brady-kool-aid drinkin moron!

  • Sorry, No I didn't. And if you can buy a gun HAVING A CRIMINAL RECORD without a background check in some states, IT'S A LOOPHOLE. And if you make it illegal for a private seller to sell a gun without the buyer having the background check, I doubt a private seller would be so willing to become a FELON just to sell a gun.

    FYI, I am PRO-GUN and have many. I am a full NRA member. I'm just pointing out that the government wants a total federal law. The gun show is just their target.

  • You are the 2nd biggest moron I've encountered on YT to date, you are a disgrace to gun owners and the NRA. I am not going to keep arguing with someone too stupid to understand a simple definition. IT IS NOT A F-ING LOOP HOLE because it is ALREADY ILLEGAL. Why can you not wrap your tiny brain around the fact that dos NOT constitute a loop hole? And it is already illegal from someone with a record or out of state to buy, if they do it now your gaddammed added law wil NOT change what criminals do

  • Loophole: An amibiguity or unintended omission in a law, rule, regulation, or contract which allows a party to circumvent the intent of the text and avoid its obligations under certain circumstances.

  • And it's not illegal in 24 states!!!!!

  • To LEGALLY circumvent the law. Circumventing law is illegal. No, it is not. It is a FEDERAL law you can NOT buy a gun legally from another state. I've said this crap over and over, you are obviously too stupid to understand it. There is NO loop hole, that is propaganda used by Brady to get stupid people to jump on the wagon. And you swallowed it.

  • When are you going to get it through your thick skull? CRIMINALS DON'T CARE ABOUT CIRCUMVENTING THE LAW!!!! CRIMINAL DONT CARE ABOUT CROSSING STATE LINES TO BUY GUN!!!!

  • Which means exactly that another law is not going to change anything they do. Thank you for finally confirming your ignorance....

  • If they make it a Federal Law it will change a lot. It will stop Criminals from buying guns in 24 States. How dumb can you be?

  • When are you going to get it through your thick skull? CRIMINALS DON'T CARE ABOUT CIRCUMVENTING THE LAW!!!! CRIMINALS DONT CARE ABOUT CROSSING STATE LINES TO BUY GUNS!!!! So in 24 States Criminals can buy a pistol at a gun show, and in 26 States they CANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Criminals can buy a gun ANYwhere another criminal will sell it to them. You just said that yourself. You can not even keep your own shit straight. In one breath you say criminals do not abide the law AND if you make another federal law against something that is already federally illegal they will stop. How you walk around and don't forget to breath is truly amazing.

  • Are you stuck on stupid? We are talking about law abiding citizens at a gun shows selling to a criminal. I said he will become a criminal you idiot. Law abiding citizens will not sell a gun at a gun show to a criminal if there is a law that requires them to get a background check first and the buyer fails the background check. If he does then he becomes a felon too. Please try to keep up, or do you want me to type slower?

  • Who cares? Most people are fat and stupid and a waste of space. We need to kill more people not allow them to continue to breed. The US needs to put in place mandatory abortions. Our society will improve because of it.

  • You remove guns you remove the second ammendment, and that ammendment was put in in case of complete goverment control, literally that if the people of the United States feel that their goverment is not respecting its rights and freedoms for its people, that people can literally overthrow their government.

  • There is no such thing as a gun show loophole.

  • There is no such thing as a gun show loophole.

  • Yes there is. In my state I must get a federal background check to buy a pistol from a dealer or a private citizen. Or I can drive over to the state next to me and buy a pistol from a private citizen without needing a background check. Therefore, since I can avoid the laws in my state by driving to another state, then there is a loophole.

  • First, your loophole has ZERO to do with gun shows, therefore it is not a "gun show loop hole" like all the gun grabbing morons call it.

    Second, there is already a federal law that prohibits you from going across the state line and buying a gun from a private owner.

    Epic fail, but thanks for playing...

  • "First, your loophole has ZERO to do with gun shows" Yes it does!

    "Second, there is already a federal law that prohibits" I'M A CRIMINAL, I DONT LISTEN TO FEDERAL LAWS, AND I WANT A GUN!! And since I can't get pass the federal background check in NJ I can just drive to PA and buy as many guns as I want from private citizens at gun shows where I dont need a background check thanks to a loophole. Which mean getting around or circumventing the law.

  • Last time, you're a moron. It's legal at a gun show, it's legal not at a gun show. Therefore the loop hole has nothing to do with gun shows. Right a felon ignores the federal law, so therefore will ignore any new law you propose, you still lose. The federal government is not SUPPOSED to meddle in state affairs. DON'T TREAD ON ME! Epic fail #2

  • If in every state at a gun show or by any private sell a federal law requires a background check IN EVERY STATE then I can't go from on state to another state to avoid a background check BECAUSE EVERY STATE I WOULD HAVE TO GET A BACKGROUND CHECK SO THERE WOULD NO LONGER BE A LOOPHOLE. And if a private law-abiding citizen sold me a gun anyway he would then no longer be a law-abiding citizen.

    Man you are dumb.

  • Felons, minors and gang members do it now. Your stupid law will not stem ANY illegal gun sales AT ALL ever. The ONLY thing it will affect are legal, upstanding citizens. You are still the idiot, and you need to move to Japan, there you can live in a society free of gun violence. What you morons do not understand is if all guns disappeared tomorrow, Democrats would still kill innocent people with different weapons. You are hopelessly ignorant.

  • YOU are a GD F-ing moron. You are a bigger than Pelosi, Gore and Brady rolled into one. A felon is going to buy guns regardless of your stupid F-ing laws. They do it NOW against the law and they will do it STILL if that worthless law is passed. People like you are a a giant billboard in advocation of retroactive abortion. You need to read the percentage of gun show guns used in crime. It's almost zero .

  • Stop showing what an idiot you are. If private citizens have to do a federal background check on all buyers. THEY WONT BE ABLE TO SELL TO PEOPLE WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS UNLESS THEY WANT TO BECOME CRIMINAL TOO!!. That way criminal will only sell to criminals, not law-abiding citizens at gun shows. Man, if you had half a brain it would be lonely.

  • You are an Ultra-moron.

  • Hate losing eh? LOL!

  • "You need to read the percentage of gun show guns used in crime. It's almost zero" It's 2%.

    But that's not the issue. The subject is the gun how loophole, and I agree it's stupid to try to close. But there is one.

    "Pelosi, Gore and Brady" Don't forget Kerry, Obama, and Holder.

  • YOU are violating federal law by crossing state lines to purchase a firearm.

    To follow your reasoning once private sales are stopped at gun shows all private sales should be halted.

    Hitler and Stallin would love your reasoning. JP in 10-E-C

  • Youre a criminal, do you care about crossing a state line?

    If you have 5 grand in cash you can go to 5 gun shows and buy up about 50 guns in one day. How many guns can you buy going to dozens of homes? And do you really want some stranger buying a gun your selling out of your house?

    And in my state I cannot sell a pistol privately to anyone who does not already have a police issued pistol purchase permit. Issue is large quantities of guns bought at gun shows. Not single gun sales.

  • no its not a loophole because the laws are meant for LAW ABIDEING citizens selling to LAW ABIDEING citizens. if you are from jersy and go to another state to buy a gun thats a crime you stoned retard.

  • YES it is a loophole. In 24 states a law abiding citizen can legally sell a pistol to someone with a criminal background. Where all the other state require the law abiding citizen to only to someone who has passed a criminal background check. In my state I can only sell a pistol to someone who presents to me a police issues pistol permit. In 24 states all a law abiding citizen needs to see from the guy with a criminal record is he is a resident of the same state. i.e. a drivers license.

  • That is NOT true.

    It is NOT legal for a FELON to have a gun NO MATTER HOW THEY GOT IT.

    It is NOT the responsibility of a seller, but the responsibility of the felon.

    Oh, and don't you think that a felon knows where to buy a gun?

    Being the son of a former officer and having met members of a gang task force, I can tell you that all you need to get a gun is $40 and a connection.

  • When did I say it was legal for a FELON to HAVE A GUN!

    WRONG AGAIN. In my state it is illegal for the seller to sell a pistol to someone who DOES NOT HAVE a police issued pistol permit.

    Where did I say that says a FELON does not know where to get a gun? I do know in my state he knows NOT to go to a gun show, or to a law abiding citizen.

    I live 2 minute from NEWARK, I know all about buying street guns. Re-read what I wrote! Clearly you did note understand one word I wrote.

  • It was my understanding that we were talking about states with what you call a "gun show loophole".

    If permits are required in your state, there is no "loophole" in your state.

    When you say: "In 24 states a law abiding citizen can legally sell a pistol to someone with a criminal background."

    It is true, you can sell to someone, without asking if they are felons or insane, however, it is not legal for THE FELON to buy the gun from the person, so there is no loophole.

  • I see where you are coming from. Yes, in the eyes of the government it is a loophole for the reasons I said. That is why the government is involved in talking about it. That is why the government wants to make it a Federal Law. If it is a Federal law is will be a law in every state, hence for Closing the Gun Show Loophole in every state, and making if like my state.

    "it is not legal for THE FELON" Question? Does the Felon really care if he breaks another law? You can't control a Felon.

  • "Does the Felon really care if he breaks another law? You can't control a Felon."

    That is exactly my point, if it is already illegal and that's not working, how is making it even more illegal going to help?

    And further more, if a felon is going to get a gun anyway, why make it harder for me?

  • "That is exactly my point, if it is already illegal and that's not working, how is making it even more illegal going to help?" If the felon is buying a gun from a law abiding citizens in 24, and you can't control the felon by another law, true, However you can control the law abiding citizen by adding a law. Like I said, do you think I would risk going to prison in my state by selling a pistol to someone who doe not have a pistol purchase permit? Add a federal law and poof, loophole gone.

  • What is the use of controlling a law abiding citizen?

    If you tell a good honest person not to shoot someone, and sure enough, they don't shoot anyone, can you honestly take credit?

    "Add a federal law and poof, loophole gone."

    Not exactly, there are currently 30+ states with sovereignty bills in the books or on a Governor desk.

  • There is an element in society that if it was up to them, not only would they eliminate guns...they would also eliminate knives that are over 2inches long...put serial numbers and them, and oblige butchers and campers to get permits for their knives!!!

    Every day we have knife murders in our country- why dont you hear about it? Because the agenda is to make the nation powerless against the government.

    Glory to God and Alelluia for the 2nd Amendment.

  • Glad to see someone else understands!

    Keep up the word.

    God bless true Patriots.

  • States are allowed some leniency in their firearm laws. It's not a loophole. It's differing state laws.

  • It's a loophole becasue a criminal in one state can go to another state to buy a gun at a gun show "no questions asked". Look up the word "loophole". It say to go arounnd a law. In this case they "go around the law' by going to another state.

  • It's still not a loophole, nobody is breaking the law in the state they are currently in at the time, therefore they are doing something completely legal based on the laws of the state in which can allow private sales between individuals.

  • In the eyes of the Federal Government it is a loophole because you can just cross a state border if you have a criminal record and buy a gun in a "no questions asked" state. Secondly even for those that live in the same state, a private seller, by law, is required to at least see if the buyer is from the same state.

    You have to look at the loophole issue from the eyes of the Federal Government, not intelligently like from yours or mine.

  • But it's not a loophole. That's just a catch term used by idiotic politicians to appeal to equally idiotic people who have no basic concept of how firearm transactions work. Simply doing the action is not illegal. If it were, then you could possibly consider it a loophole, but it's not illegal....at all. Now, purchasing the firearms for the purpose of selling them in a state where they are illegal, is a crime, but again, it's not a loophole, it's just flat out illegal.

  • As it is legal in some states and not it others it is a "loophole" if I go out of state to buy a pistol. Look up the word definition of the word "loophole". Yes it is a catch phrase, but it is a loophole because I can go around the laws in one state by voiding it by going to another state. The IS the definition of "loophole". And yes, it does encapsulate private sale in those that anywhere done by private sellers which would also be stopped if a federal law is passed.

  • There you go spreading misinformation AGAIN. It is a FEDERAL law, a private citizen can NOT sell to a resident from another state. Please provide info on any massacre that was committed with a gun bought at a gun show. People who carry illegal guns do not buy them at gun shows. In fact they rarely buy them at all.

  • Do you live in VA? Do you even know what your talking about? I do, and you have to have a background check to buy a gun from a dealer, at a gun show or otherwise. Sales between private citizens are what we are talking about here. It has nothing to do with gun shows, it is about prohibiting the transfer of firearms between private citizens anywhere, even handing down a family heirloom would require a background check.

  • Clearly I must because you just said the same thing I have said all along. I have only been talking about private sellers. In the eyes of the Government a "gun show" is a controllably location. So that is why they target the gun show. At a gun show a gang banger with a criminal background that has a valid VA drivers license can buy 50 pistols at a VA gun show if he has the money. Yes, private sells in a living room will also get caught up in the mess if a Federal law is passed.

  • There is a 1 handgun a month law in Virginia. If some one gets caught buying 50 pistols, they will go to prison for a long time. But the fundamental issue that anti-gunners don't understand is that criminals do not obey laws, and laws do not prevent crime. Law-abiding citizens are the only ones who will be effected.

  • Humm, So let me get this straight. A gang banger with a criminal history sheet a mile long is going to obey the 1 handgun a month law.

    Yes, law abiding citizens are the only one that will be effected by another stupid law.

  • Also forgot to mention, there are still 23 other states that do not have a 1 handgun a month law and you can buy 50 handguns at a gun show without having to have a background check to buy a gun from a private seller. Again you have to look at this at the Federal level, not by individual state by state like you just did by using the one state of Virginia.

  • This video is from VA and I live in VA. The Federal Govt. does not have the authority to regulate firearms, the state does. The Feds have decided that they do, but they have also decided that they have the authority to do a lot of other things too. Even if it violates the 10th amendment. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

  • "The Federal Govt. does not have the authority to regulate firearms" What planet are you from? So if they reinstate the Federal Assault Weapons Ban it will mean nohing? Clearly you have no clue what powers the Federal Government has in relation to the Constitution.

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