9/11 CONSPIRACY: NIST CHIEF ENGINEER LIES ABOUT MOLTEN METAL

[ctcole77]

@CalumGilhooly What about the MOLTEN COPPER gullible shill? Thus far, 911 twoofers have performed ABSOLUTELY NO TESTS confirming it was steel. Nice try liar!  911 TRUTH DEBUNKED!

[ctcole77]

@99Eternal Oh, I forgot to add MOLTEN COPPER too. Thats right, copper piping and wiring is your precious "molten metal". Both copper and aluminum have melting points well below the 1800 degree temperatures recordred at the WTC. 911 TRUTH DEBUNKED!

[zenoist2]

I'm getting the hang of the official story.

This meeting was held because of fire damage.

Hes wearing a white shirt because of fire damage.

His name is john because of fire damage.

Sipping fom a glass is fire damage too, after all its the only possible explanation!

[SuperBlackh3art]

Well that Guy proofed most sceptic rite "fires wouldn't leave molten steel cuz they wouldn't get that hot" proof that fires alone wouldn't melt unless.wait for it....................theres other steel melting elements involved like ....I dnt know THERMITE!!!! come on!!!! this is to eazy they r obviously lying about tha "official story" jus read between tha lines

[Xcorgi]

That guy theyre questionling is a lying little worm. They should take a crowbar to split his head open since he wornt expose the contents of what he knows we could then expose the contents of his skull.

[myboringlife]

Wow, he's creepy. He should be in jail.

[Skeptic121]

Make a video if John Gross ever tells the truth. Don't waste time telling us he lies. Just one look at him tells us that!

[MrMaypole14]

Boy oh boy does he look nervous!! the glasses, the drink of water, the stance that says; "bring it on, I knew someone would ask this, and I have practiced the non-answer I'm about to give you". Then as far as the video, he says "will you send it to me"? And under his breath saying "so I can have you killed"!

[louie2able]

lieing pos

[punxsutawneybarney]

For more about John Gross, molten steel, and the recent proof that WTC engineer Leslie Robertson said he saw molten steel, see my video:

The 9/11 "Deep Mystery" and the Crazy Engineers.

watch?v=DF4C6qtU_Fc

In 2006 Robertson denied that anyone had seen molten steel. In 2002 he said he'd seen it himself.

[biggbrattz]

This vid was produced by LIARS.

1) John Gross denies knowledge of MOLTEN STEEL, NOT MOLTEN METAL.

2) RED HOT STEEL IS NOT MOLTEN STEEL.

3) NASA thermal images show MAX temp of 1350F

4) Pools of molten METAL, were NOT STEEL.

5) Metal TYPE cannot be confirmed by video.

6) Red hot steel, molten aluminium, melted boots, heated bent beams ALL NORMAL IN A FIRE THAT SIZE.

John Gross=SMART&QUICK. He recognized exactly who he was talking to!

Questioner is uninformed & a LIAR, & IMO, NOT 2 SMART

[louie2able]

this guy is dirt.

[Veloce3]

John Gross should be held accountable for gross negligence in this matter. If he were the cards would tumble and the truth would finally be out.

[iBlindGame]

@Veloce3 Logical fallacies easily expose the bad arguments in this debate. Take a look at what NIST does, the very people providing the "science" so many people simply believe because it is complex.

We (NIST) Have the Results and Only We Have the Results

watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk

Sunder's Silverish Molten Metal

watch?v=pJ8OCtzGgk4

Sunder on What Controlled Demolition Looks Like

watch?v=4ZrcDTjkIhI

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[NOmeansnoFAN]

KITE HIT STEEL PLANE MUST 

[TheStroomis]

I want to know why this video was posted in 2007 and only have 7,000 views. This thing needs to start fucking circulating. This video is very important, especially compared to a lot of other junk 911 cover up videos. Bravo to the people who took the time to actually go and have the balls to ask these questions to NIST in person.

[steberr]

@TheStroomis

Pretty sure youtube and goggle fuck with viewing numbers. overtime as you keep track you'll see what we are talking about.

[biggbrattz]

@TheStroomis Your right. John Gross is sharp as a tack, and his questioners are uninformed and dishonest.

Listen CAREFULLY. John is right.

[iBlindGame]

@TheStroomis Logical fallacies easily expose the bad arguments in this debate. Take a look at what NIST does, the very people providing the "science" so many people simply believe because it is complex.

We (NIST) Have the Results and Only We Have the Results

watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk

Sunder's Silverish Molten Metal

watch?v=pJ8OCtzGgk4

Sunder on What Controlled Demolition Looks Like

watch?v=4ZrcDTjkIhI

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[oegromov]

NIST is an institute fo autistic scientists who ignore facts and who create there own reality in heavily manipulated computer models, far from reality.

[Seigu007]

Sipping Water , Playing with Glasses leaning on desk, grinning...His body language says he is lying...

Great Video

Keep it going we have to wake up the rest of the sleeping world....

[xingmowang]

I know this guy is full of shit. Well, he has to as his salary depends on talking bullshit.

[whiterottenrabbit]

LOL, what an ignorant geezer! All the blind "patriots" should see this video!

[Neanderthalcouzin]

Good for the guy asking this question. He shouldn't be nervous though, the guy giving the talk is the one to explain himself.

[eXPerienceyeah]

Liars.

[femr2]

NIST have included a 2.25s period of free-fall in the WTC 7 Final Report

A body of mass in free-fall is continually converting all of it's potential energy into kinetic energy in order to fall with the acceleration of gravity, and so cannot be crushing, breaking or involved in deformation of any resisting structure at the same time

The NIST model shows deformation occurring at ALL times

The NIST model does NOT explain the descent of WTC 7

WTC 7 NIST Model Reality check

watch?v=WnXeUIaYj3k

[marcoddy]

Brilliant answer...

Steel BENDS when heated

BENDING = RESISTANCE

RESISTANCE = no free fall!!!

[iBlindGame]

@marcoddy Logical fallacies easily expose the bad arguments in this debate. Take a look at what NIST does, the very people providing the "science" so many people simply believe because it is complex.

We (NIST) Have the Results and Only We Have the Results

watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk

Sunder's Silverish Molten Metal

watch?v=pJ8OCtzGgk4

Sunder on What Controlled Demolition Looks Like

watch?v=4ZrcDTjkIhI

More videos about logical fallacies and NIST to come. Please subscribe.

[ctcole77]

@iBlindGame

MOLTEN ALUMINUM!

911 TRUTH = 911 LIES

[99Eternal]

@ctcole77 Molten aluminium is silver...molten alumium does not produce the molten steel samples in FEMA Report Appendix C, nor does it produce iron microspheres which have been found in every dust sample to date, including your governments and independent firms completely unaffiliated with 9/11 truthers. Ooops!

[CalumGilhooly]

@ctcole77

Molten steel = something up with the OCT,

Molten aluminium = silvery colour,

ctcockmuncher = total trolling twat

[CmacD87]

People saying "molten steel" is NOT scientific proof that the molten metal was, in fact, steel. The photo at 1:22 is a flashlight, not glowing molten steel.

And the Thermal imaging DOES NOT show any temperature even close to 2000F let alone 2800F.

Seriously, look up the NASA report on it instead of looking a picture without the tempurature legend.

Honest research will lead you to the truth, and the truth shall set you free from this ignorant conspiracy

[AiresQX4]

So all the eyewitnesses were lying about the molten metal that was flowing like a foundry?

[FreakByTheSpeak420]

so what temperature does it show and how come people's shoes were melting. Ide trust a Physics Professor before ide trust some guy on the internet. Please send a link i really want to find the truth i dont know what to believe

[AiresQX4]

Are you "Debunkers" getting a understanding of just how deceptive these NIST employees are?  HA,HA,HA!!! Yeah right!! After debating your types for so long you guys will always be in willful denial!! And that's all it is, DENIAL! You know us

"Truthers" are correct but you can never admit it because of your pride! I am certain your types are prideful and arogant about many issues!

[spraynpray]

What would be the point in bringing the building down, considering everybody above the floors of the crash was going to die anyway?

Also thermite is the mixture of aluminum and iron oxide. SHOCKING that those two things would be in a building, right? Absolutely shocking to find both rust and aluminum in a structure.

[AiresQX4]

If you watch the steven Jones presentation on my favorites then you will see exactly what they found in the dust!

Yoou ask what would be the reason to bring the towers down?

For one, to make fools as yourself support unconstitutional terror laws such as the patriot act and to rally the public behind unlawful and justified wars such as Iraq,Iran,Afghanistan,Pakistan­,Syria,etc,etc! Kinda like the PNAC said.

[spraynpray]

Britain was bombed for years, they never passed a patriot act. The patriot act signing in the US happened because of socialists in our country, not a building coming down. And don't call me a sheep again.

[AiresQX4]

Actually the Patriot act was written years before 911 and couldn't be passed until 911.

And where exactly did I call you a "Sheep"?

SHEEP!!

[spraynpray]

You said I supported the patriot act. That's pure sheepism!

[NanoThermite911]

Not only that but Tom Daschle's Office was rejecting the Patriot Act and demanding that Congress Investigate 9/11...

Daschle had CIA Anthrax sent to his office and suddenly he stopped pushing for an investigation into 9/11 and signed on in support of the Illegal and Unconstitutional Act.

[JSSTyger]

There is a "good write up by controlled demolition experts" which he fails to go into detail about. ROTF OK. Is our chief engineer saying he is not allowed to go into the specifics of how CD works? WHY? He's not at liberty to speak about it? HUH? Does this mean the govt doesn't want him talking about it? Yeah thats my guess.

[ORIAM85]

That guy has to make absolutely no sense in his closing statement...What a low life, he will die for his ignorance.

[911thegreathoax]

You can tell this clown is a "stone cold" liar by all his "ahs," double talk, and stuttering.

[sleonardelli]

joopq: GZ=Ground Zero. Again debris trapped under GZ was burning like an incinerator which COULD explain the molten metal. Molten metal ≠ molten steel.

[joopq]

molten metal or steel does not matter. the temperature is the issue. 2800F! kerosene or any other known material would not let these temperatures occur. it is impossible. you are gripping at straws to hold on to a failed lie, why?

im not saying i know HOW they knocked down the towers but it was obviously demolished in some fashion that created temperatures this hot, there is no getting around this fact. and btw debris that reach that temp can not be accounted for, therefore its a third element

[h3rman1978]

Lying M***erfucking NIST bastard.

Mass murder coverup collaborating nazi.

[sleonardelli]

:45-Steven Jones found TRACE evidence of thermite after analyzing portions of steel that could've been contaminated by acetyline torches during cleanup; :47 could be anything (contaminated materials) melting; :59 not molten/red hot; 1:02-acetyline torches during cleanup; 1:13-FDNY has no experience w/molten "steel"; 1:22-debunked already as a light 2 assist in night-time rescue ops;

[joopq]

well the point is there was molten metal under all trhee buildings, there is video, witness and themal imagineg proof for that, cant refute that. and here gross is either grossly neglegent or LYING ABOUT ITS NONEXISTENCE. fact is that it was clocked at 2800F by workers on the pile. there is no way for jet fuel to produce a temp this high so it has to be disregarded as the catalyst. therefore there is a third element to the collapse, something that can get well above 2800F, what could that be?

[sleonardelli]

joopq: IDK, perhaps GZ acted like a giant incinerator (Pollution/Deception @ GZ) with all the debris beneath. There is, so far, no proof of thermite/thermate. There is an explanation for the molten metal seen at the corner is a mixture of aluminum, glass, and other combustibles.

[joopq]

what is gz?

screw one little corner of three pools of metal. three pools are NOT an anomaly but a bright red flag. the tempature was 2800F! there is another explanatiin beyond femas. and maybe even beyond thermate

[JSSTyger]

Dude if the reaction occured i dunno 110 stories up and all that shit falls all the way to the ground and maintains that kinda hellish temperature (alot hotter than fire) there is something else behind it. Just to let you know....2800 degrees is about HALF the temperature of the surface of the SUN.

[JSSTyger]

I've got a better scenario

Steven Jones found evidence of thermite which could have been thermite

0:47 could be molten steel like they are talking about

1:13 FDNY firefighters are not retards

1:22 doesn't really matter if its debunked. There are other legit photos

I would like to see you comment on the last minute of the video. I would completely OWN you if you did...trust me. Its easy to tell this guy is pulling this chit outta his ass.

[XxKillaKxX]

The more evidence i see of the 9/11 attacks, the more apparent it is to me that the attacks were an inside job. Open your eyes and do the research it makes to much sense. Everything you watch on tv is censored by the government. The government is corrupted. Im only 16 and I realize the truth. Why shouldn't everyone else. I respect the loss of lives endured on 9/11, and im not trying to offend anybody. But at some point you have to realize that everything is government controlled...Even youtube!!

[911CommissionCoverup]

EVERYONE SHOULD SEARCH 'JOHN McCAIN' AND ASK HIM ON HIS OFFICIAL YOUTUBE VIDEOS, WHEN THE HELL IS HE GOING TO START 'STRAIGHT TALKING' ABOUT 9/11!

[WTC7WasPulled911]

Missiles hit the WTC!

watch?v=r69WDtoLQ2M

[thelastbernier]

OMG wow what a ball drop from that guy... no calculations!!! now that's what i call scientific!!! they probably didn't do any more calculations b/c they knew that after the initial collapse their theory/hypothesis was proved wrong by a the LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY AND MOMENTUM!

[muzicmaker2001]

youtube*com/watch?v=jrUosvSNLC­k

[K1NGF3DOR]

wow, the man can just lie and continue talking like he is so knowledgable and not know about the molten metal? does he think we are fucking children?

[Gwenlj]

What a piece of sh$t he is, What F-ING arrogance.

[lt1bird348]

Watch this guy fidget. Umm. Hmm. Is he lying?

[lethal1960]

fucking liar hate cunts like him 3000 souls dead because of these people

[clovercouple]

The guys asking these questions are national heros! Give them a medal and put the NIST CE on trial...give him the Guantanamo treatment first and see what other lies he might decide to come clean on...

[MarkB1ngham]

Is there any creedence in this 'friction potential energy of the WTC collapses caused this molten metal in the basements weeks post 9/11' you hear bandied around by official story zealots or is it just disinformation merchant BS?

[lisabob22]

journalof911studies. com see January article. Fema found evidence of extremely high temps, impossible for jet fuel & office supplies to reach. Nist ignored this evidence

As for your question there is no physical way for a building collapse to cause molten metal.

It takes explosives or chemical reactions, unless you have a foundry.

[yaniktube]

wtf is he talking about at the end there? sounds like he is retarded...

[bofors7715]

NIST = TREASON

[ydyammo]

National Institute of Slandering and Treason.

[SiriosIX]

This guy ought to be hunted down along with the rest of his pay masters and shot. The NIST Chief is a fucking loser. He is one of the many who has sold his soul and I really wish I could beat the shit out of him. I mean look at him, he is a complete numbskull and a waste of space. This guy is a bold faced liar.

[lisabob22]

he just does what they pay him to do, just like a hooker. At least the hooker provides a service that doesn't hurt anybody, at least directly.

[SiriosIX]

Good point. I agree.

[lisabob22]

at least the truth is getting out. I am hoping karma gets him. Maybe he'll get hit with a car like Earl

[SiriosIX]

After being hit by the car, maybe the driver will then reverse over the fucker. Who knows, maybe, just maybe there is poetic justice.

[jwthomp]

OMG

[911REICHSTAG]

"Those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough and impartial investigation be undertaken." ~ Dr. Lynn Margulis (Distinguished University of Massachusetts professor, National Medal of Science recipient, National Academy of Science's Space Science Board Committee on Planetary Biology and Chemical Evolution, former chairperson.

[quarkmuffin37]

@911REICHSTAG Oh my god, Lynn Margulis is Carl Sagans ex wife!!!!!!

[iBlindGame]

@quarkmuffin37 Logical fallacies easily expose the bad arguments in this debate. Take a look at what NIST does, the very people providing the "science" so many people simply believe because it is complex.

We (NIST) Have the Results and Only We Have the Results

watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk

Sunder's Silverish Molten Metal

watch?v=pJ8OCtzGgk4

Sunder on What Controlled Demolition Looks Like

watch?v=4ZrcDTjkIhI

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[mitllibrat]

The U.S. is famous for gun nuts! You guys talk a good game with your "let god sort "em out" T -shirts but this guy and many like him are in serious need of getting sorted.

All this talking isn't doing any good at all. No one is going to cop to it. Sorry, I'm normally a peace loving sort but the time has come to fight back in a real way-just like the founders did who we celebrate every 4th.

[bobbyclerici]

Will this effect my tax rebate this year? Can you please wait until 2009 while I'm on vacation?

[dariusagoodwin]

check out this guys body language...

[wasy35]

this guy is a joke..sad state of affairs when a grown man has to lie to get a job...

[psikeyhackr]

The NIST can't even tell us how many tons of concrete were in the towers in their 3 year, $20,000,000 report.

[TommYYZ]

What a crock. See how he talks down to the question? This is how they do it. I wonder how much his soul is worth? Prolly about the same amount he was paid by the govt.

[GovSecretsRevealed]

this guys is obviously a Neo-conservative or a Zionist.

[florgat91]

Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

Tuesday Aug 21, 2007

James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), has called for an independent review of NIST's investigation into the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11.

[florgat91]

Dr. Quintiere made his plea during his presentation, "Questions on the WTC Investigations" at the 2007 World Fire Safety Conference. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view."

[florgat91]

"I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable," explained Dr. Quintiere. "Let''s look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official cause and what''s the significance of one cause versus another."

[florgat91]

Dr. Quintiere, one of the world's leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, also encouraged his audience of fellow researchers and engineers to scientifically re-examine the WTC collapses. "I hope to convince you to perhaps become 'Conspiracy Theorists', but in a proper way," he said ...

[florgat91]

the growing amount of evidence and number of people stepping forward with compelling accounts of what REALLY happened on 9/11 warrants a new 9/11 investigation at least... the world needs to know the truth of the greatest crime ever committed - the Bush administration is actively covering up the truth ... all evidence points to an inside job, a false flag operation - the United States of America has been hijacked by traitors.

[911CommissionCoverup]

THIS VIDEO SHOWS CLEAR EVIDENCE of NIST lying, and yet there are right-wing bozos here flatly denying it. He's "never heard of molten metal" in the basements? WHAT A FUCKING LIAR!

But the right-wingers will just lie and deny anyway, I can practically hear some of their banjos and pigs squealing.

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[hezronbicer]

Ask yourself this...would youy buy a car from this guy. Nuff said.

[911REICHSTAG]

find me an engineer, scientist, etc that can explain how the flying fuck a building can crush itself at the same time it's spewing it's mass in all directions in less than 15 seconds. Where is the "piledriver" (section of building supposedly crushing the rest of the building) in any of the videos and photographs? All we see is incredible amounts of dust, steel being ejected up to 500 feet away from all sides.

[junglemike72]

@911REICHSTAG Yes! Is American Idol on?

[nickmollo]

These are familiar and condescending responses by Popular Mechanics and NIST to serious questions that need answering.

How can non-conformist theories be disproved if the official explanations are themselves only theories?

The spin that Bush attached to the 9/11 attacks is unacceptable. The withholding of evidence concerning the attacks is tantamount to collusion and is shameful.

[Thermate]

For anyone who has made a scientific study of body language, that NIST guy looks to be on very shaky foundations - must've been the 'car bomb in the basement'...

A clear sign of a lie coming up is when the liar raises his primary hand to opposite side of nose... check it out...

[Melchesdikomega6669]

look at the firemens eyes at 1:24. they KNOW.

[F4O4U4R4S]

the laws of physics were broken on that day,the law of conservation of momentum was totally shattered along with several other laws of physics.WTC7 fell in 6.5 seconds,if an apple fell from the top of WTC7 and had no air resistance while it fell,it would hit the ground in 6 seconds,this is a huge problem,WTC7 without a doubt was brought down with explosives.therefore inside job

[F4O4U4R4S]

PART2::."we were charged with finding out the cause of the collapse and we found,ah what happened i think we have SCIENTIFICALLY demonstrated ah what was required to initiate the collapse. once the collapse initiated,the video evidence is rather clear it was not stopped by the floors below. so there was NO CALCULATION that WE DID ah to demonstrate that ah what is clear on the videos." that is a SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION to why the towers collapsed?? WTF!

[F4O4U4R4S]

PART1::nists official explanation of the collapse is this; starting at 3:30 of the video.

[poodleinsky]

deff dum and blind

truth stands clear from error

[LordnevetsHotblack]

Oh come on People. Anyone who believes the Official report is either a completely retarded lying stooge or a KneeJerkin Bush Lover. It only takes ONE piece of the report to fail for the rest to follow. Bush will never admit in his lifetime, so our words need to be louder. The Report is so full of holes that our attention is stretched. We could focus on one theme and blow it away. What would people say was the Keystone Theme?

[Melchesdikomega6669]

It's so obvious. Denial (the addiction kind) is all the "debunkers" have left. When someone they love is taken away without due process they will wish they had listened. And no matter how sheeplike the american people have become I still think when the wolf bites them on their asses they will stand up and kill it.

[cecilbdml]

??WTF??

First of all, a THEORY is something that's UNPROVEN. So leave the DENIAL stuff for all those who still think Bush is capable of anti-American operations, not komrades Klinton.

Second of all, there have never been physics like this before. The variables introduced into this are myriad. To have a handfull of folks who MIGHT have SOME hobbied interest in ONE THING, try and say they KNOW this was done by the Bush administration, is to find out how many voted for Kerry.

[Melchesdikomega6669]

Everything you say is true, what is your point?

[cecilbdml]

My point is that you deny FACTS. You DEBATE when it's a THEORY. This is something the 'truthers' and other anti-Bushites WON'T do. Any discussion, I guess, is someone not taking them at their word, sight unseen.

Paraphrasing someone's question below...would you buy a car sight unseen, just because you were told NOT doing that was denying the truth? I don't THINK so.

[Melchesdikomega6669]

im sorry but do i know you? My statement doesnt deny anything. Are you sure your talking to me? From your statements its not even clear what your position is. Im not buying anything. Make yourself more clear, reread my original statement or something. I have no idea how to respond to this.

[justopandthink]

fucking liar - look at him squirming

[Rochembo]

Why were people seen in the gaps left by the plane impacts if the heat from the fires behind them was so excessive?

[Rochembo]

If thick black smoke is characteristic of an oxygen-starved, lower temperature, less intense fire, why was thick black smoke exiting the WTC towers when the fires inside were supposed to be extremely hot?

[kensmind]

Read the NIST report (using a brain) and you will Laugh your ass off! Google NIST 911 and be prepared for some big lies. They are asked that question and DODGE it without answering it. They assert that 1000 Cel. was reached in the fires but yet that can't be if LIVING HUMANS are standing there in the crash zone!