Olbermann and Alter on Obama's FISA stance

[dontliethetruth]

if you read between the lines what j alter and KO were saying about obama you could have gotten an early glimpse into the obama presidency... "civil liberties? what names so?!"

and the claqeurs on the telly call that strength... does that mean the soviet union wasn't an evil empire but the realm of wiretapping strength?

[Zile77]

Fight the FISA bill!

In mass protest, everyone should stop paying their August-October phone bills. Break the damn phone companies and their insane monopoly once and for all and show the government who's really the boss!!!

Do not pay your phone bill, and spread the word!!!!!

[jackson32]

"Fight the FISA bill!"

The best way to fight it is for mass desertions from Obamas camp, that will get their attention real quick. Obama did this knowing full well that he could get away with it, after all democrats think they don't have another choice. He is playing his supporters for suckers.

Ron Paul actually stands up for civil liberties, and is honest, but liberals are not know for thinking outside the box. This is yet an another issue that separates thinking people from sheep.

[ronothedem]

Look at this asshole spinning the whole thing! Obama is a flip-flopper.

[breakfastisready]

Obama has you sheep in the palm of his hand.

[aliakbar01]

Olbermann is the BIGGEST hypocrite and deserves to be fired. fired. fired.

[jackson32]

I knew for sure that Olbermann was a shill for the establishment when he was basically silent about Ron Paul. What it boils down to is that he had been LYING all along about fighting against tyranny. It does not get anymore clear cut than this, anyone who calls themselves a democrat should see this for what it is, BETRAYAL, by both Obama and Olbermann.

[phoenixatom]

wow...that video was the best defense of Obama's position on FISA that I've heard...and it was from liberal media. I'm kinda shocked.

[puttali8]

Obama is fucked up. You know what after all Reverend wright was right. Obama is just another Politician. He knew it all along. People were too stupid to listen. Good luck with your change. Stupid fucking sheeps.

[activist44]

Obama flip-flops. Change you can't believe in.

[GurnSi]

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Gambling: Spending higher than on Books+movies+DVDs+music+videos (Rifkin p28)

Postgraduate quality: Despite cheap $, foreign applications fell yrly 2000-8; sharply rose in EU (UN)

Reading skills: Below ALL European nations (IntnlAdultLit.Surv)

Electricity usage MWhr/yr/head: USA 14, EU 6 (CIA)

87% aged 18-24 can't find Iraq or Iran on map (CNN 11/22/02)

Bastardry: 34+% kids born out of wedlock (CNN 12/10/04)

Mothers dying in childbirth: 170% of EU rate (NYT 1/12/05)

[truefaith00]

I don't know why you're comment was marked as spam. You brought up valid points and nailed it right on the head.

Maybe the truth hurts for some? I dunno...

[vonkaiser]

Hey! If you do support Barack Obama for president and strongly disagree with him on this telcom immunity issue, go to my-dot-barackobama-dot-com sign up, and ad you name to the group called: "Senator Obama - Please Vote NO on Telecom Immunity - Get FISA Right"

It is currently the 4th or 5th largest group on his personal social network, make it #1 and see if he really pays attention to any of the people who got him the nomination.

[Arffyou]

I did it.

[Ovalshine]

Thank you, Olbermann. All I had was right-wing pundits to attacks. It got to where I could've easily been mistaken for a liberal. Thank you for being that left-wing pundit I can attack.

BTW, do you know of any other left-wing pundits that are as evil as you? I need to even the playing field more.

[Dream23fb]

Olbermann, what the FUCK?

You had a searing commentary on Bush, calling him a fascist and invoking the Third Reich in his support of FISA. You said anyone who supports FISA is a stupid, hypocritical, and a fascist.

But now that Obama has supported it, all of the sudden, it's a brave act of courage. You have ZERO journalistic integrity, Keith. Your blind support for Obama is ridiculous.

[nadi1010]

I hate Obama. I think he's a complete and utter fraud. Democrats got punked, that's for sure.

[Lahawk]

Can one imagine Oby's attack if this was Hillary flip flopping on FISA.

[supporterofpaul]

So Olbermann is a flip-flopper hypocrite and tool afterall.

[rileymayhem20]

"yah yah yah shish boob yah.... yay Obama" Olbermann #1 Obama chearleader

[ChubbFidgets]

Sweet Jesus, Olbermann is such a hypocrite schmuck it is pathetic to watch. Bush is Satan for FISA but Obama gets his ass powdered by these two when he supports FISA> Where's the 10 minute special comment, Olby? I'll give you a definition of cowering: interviewing the same three people every night on your Obama infomercial. Christ, Olbermann is lame.

[bamabud]

Wow. Riveting. Two tools talking about another tool.

[Ralphdraw3]

Ron Paul -

still a tool of the REPUBLICAN PARTY

jesus, Ron Paul is lame...

[mpolzkill]

Ralph: Thankyou, Pee Wee Herman.

[JiveDadson]

Olbermann, bite me.

You are a disgraceful partisan hack. You have flip-flopped on this despicable FISA legislation because Obama is going to vote for it. You are a disgrace. I love it when you lay into Bush, forgetting that you do not mean a word of it. Your only test is, "Democrats good." In your eyes the Democrats can do no wrong, even when they eviscerate the Constitution. Have you forgotten your observation that the immunity provision violates the constitutional ban on ex post facto laws?

[fmartin99]

I want my rights back.

[maxx1000]

Dear Mr Alter, Yes, I do know that politics IS the art of the possible... ... It is POSSIBLE that our Rights, Freedoms and Liberties are for sale. ... It is POSSIBLE that Congress is covering up a crime by attempting to make legal what otherwise is illegal. ... It is POSSIBLE that Obama is craven. ... It is POSSIBLE the Republic is over. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE... AMERICA! You just have to want it bad enough. Do Americans deserve their Right to privacy? .

[oa666]

"Senator Obama also refusing to cower even to the left on the subject of warrantless wiretapping."

thats hilarious. the keith olbermann act is starting to trip over itself. sad that his fans dont realize thats all its ever been, an act.

no wonder the left is starting to distance itself from this show

[us3rnayme]

eat a dick

[pointybongo]

Olbermann:"Sen. Obama, ranking holding the White House accountable above keeping the telecom industry in check."

WRONG, Keith. The FISA bill does NOT hold the White House accountable. Quite the opposite: by stopping the telecom lawsuits dead in their tracks, the bill will shut down the VERY LAST avenue for the American people's discovery of just how heinous and illegal and the administration's surveillance programs really were (are).

[Chip53]

Obama is as phoney as Olbermann.

[suexian]

And you're as eloquent as Bill O'Reilly !

[Ovalshine]

We can fit Bill in there. His last name starts with an O, too. And all three are frauds and cowards.

[tarnopol]

So, now that saint Obama agrees with Bush, retroactive immunity for telecoms is not "fascism" (Olbermann's word) anymore. When it was just Bush (and the GOP), yes, that was fascism. But since the Great Leader now says we're at war with Eastasia, not Eurasia, and moreover, we have always been at war with Eastasia, Olbermann throws his rhetoric out the window and shifts on a dime.

That is the definition of cynical doublethink. And this is no minor issue; just the death of the fourth amendment.

[missesminky]

He is strong because he doesnt flip flop but shows his strength by flip flopping. Thanks guys.

[pointybongo]

Jonathan Alter:

"you look weak if you're flip-flopping."

•yes

"Since last August we've been operating in an unconstitutional environment."

•Bullshit. Alter doesn't know wtF he's talking about.

[bennygale]

1.25 '...Obama also refusing to cower even to the left on the subject of warrantless wiretapping...'

Really! What about the constitution? So we can take comfort that Obama will be more likely to appoint SCOTUS justices who will vote to OVERTURN the law he now favors. Count me out of that comfort zone.

[bennygale]

Reid's stated opposition to the FISA revision is a dog and pony show. The cloture vote of 80-15 was the real vote. He was with the 80.

Obama, Clinton and McCain didn't vote.

15 patriots. Except for Byrd and Kennedy who are recuperating, the rest be damned!

[avit187]

"This Bill Restores the Constitution"

WTF Bill is this guy reading!!!! This Bill has gutted our 4th Amendment Rights!!!!! Where has Olbermann's outrage gone? Oh i get it, when Bush says he is for this bill, then there is outrage, but when Obama says he is for it, then it restores the Constitution!

[0613162k]

NADER'S CHALLENGE TO OBAMA (posted on his website):

"One, why don't you support single payer national health insurance, which is supported by a majority of doctors and the American people?"

"Two, why do you favor expanding the military budget which is replete with waste, fraud and abuse"?

"And three, why don't you come out and support an immediate increase of the minimum wage to $10 an hour?"

"When can we expect the authenticity of hope and change?"

[snarkwaupaca]

Because when Dennis K ran on this 5% of the people voted for him. Far left liberals don't win. That's why!

[0613162k]

No, it's centrist corporate war hawk candidates that lose as bama now is.Obama ran his campaign as the most liberal person fooling everyone to think he's anti war, when he funded the Iraq war, he will redeploy troops from Iraq to Afghanistan & extend to Pakistan, he said he'd have all troops out in 16 months, & no says he'll leave an force there so the occupation remains.He doesn't take threat of force against Iran off the table to pander to AIPAC & will increase military spending- more debt.

[tnafever]

He's doing what he has to do to win. If it gets him more conservative votes, then mission accomplished.

Obama '08

[0613162k]

But he made his whole campaign about being against politicians that "say and do anything to win" and to break away from "old style presidential politics"

But more important than that is that he is misleading people on Iraq.Many people think he's going 2 bring all the troops home, but the truth is he'll redepploy them to Afgahanistan & will maintain occupation in Iraq.We NEED RALPH NADER 2 be in the debate,ballot & in the whitehouse as he's the ONLY candidate that'll END THE OCCUPSTION in Iraq

[0613162k]

Watch Obama's interview with Amy Goodman on democracy no by searching for youtube video entitled:

"Amy puts Obama in the hot-seat!!"

People need to know what they're voting for and you are NOT voting for an end to the occupation in Iraq with Obama as the national media and his speeches may lead people to belive.

Compare to youtube videos entitled:

"Ralph Nader on Ending the Occupation of Iraq (2004)"

and "Nader 3"

You need 2 vote 4 Nader as the only chance 2 end occupation in Iraq

[0613162k]

More people support the positions of Ron Paul, Kucinich and Nader united on foreign policy, and the rheoric of Obama that isn't suported by his policies which are the same as McCain. but they were and Nader again will be excluded from debates, and any national coverage,and Nader is not allowed on any state ballot unless we petition in every state, so Nader supporters will be disfranchised if they don't know that.Obama 7 McCain automatically are allowed on.That's how they gt blocked from winning.