CCHR Says Top APA Psychiatrist Needs Lesson in Disease vs. Disorder

[abe334455]

Scientology is an evil, greedy and dangerous cult! And it is watched in Germany, by the Agency for the protection of the Constitution!

[CCHRInt]

@abe334455 Considering you have one subscriber and no friends you may want to consider why that is. You know, just a thought.

[abe334455]

@CCHRInt

So you are insulting my Youtube-Channel because i insulted $cientology. When someone criticises the cult, you have to make a personal insult, to undermine his credibility. Thats the usual tactic of your folks. And the only personal thing, you got from me, is my channel, so you pick on that.

A little few, don't you think?

I don't know how much money they pay you a day (i mean, i know it is way beyond legal standards), but according to your use for society, it's still too much.

[CCHRInt]

@abe334455 Wow you are pretty soft skinned for someone who freely throws insults around. Seriously dude, toughen up.  Didn't mean to "hurt your feelings" there "Abe" but if you are going to be spewing venom, perhaps you might consider that someone just may not put up with your hysteria.

[Hady8771]

Come on guys.Since the German scientist Emil Kraeplin in 1920,psychiatry was linked with neurological anatomy.As a result there are plenty of evidences relating psychiatric diseases to biological neurotransmitters as well as specific receptors which are in turn the main area of research in the field of pharmacotherapy.For example there are numerous neurological findings for each type of dementia regardless the role of chromosomal abnormailities which had opened a huge door for genome therapy

[CCHRInt]

@Hady8771 Hiya. Ok so that is basically a very long way of saying that they haven't proven anything. A link is not cause. Cause is cause. Etiology is cause. A test determines whether a physical abnormality exists. Quite simply, name the proven test (neurobiological, x-ray, genetic, your choice) which conclusively proves who does or does not have a mental disorder. Anything else is simply speculation. Not science and not medicine,

[Hady8771]

@CCHRInt Schizophrenia:CT:Lateral and third ventricular enlargement,reduction in cortical volume MRI:Increased cerebral ventricles PET:Hypoactivity of frontal lobes and hyperactivity of basal ganglia

Alzheimer:-neuroanatomic:corti­cal atrophy,flattened sulci,enlarged ventricles-histopathology:seni­le plagues,neurofibrillary tangles,neuronal loss,granulovacuolar degeneration of neurons,associated with chromosome 21,decreased Ach and NE in blood

Pick disease:atrophy in frontal lobe,pick cells

etc

[CCHRInt]

@Hady8771 That's a lot of big words that mean nothing. First of all read the recent studies exposing the fact that it is the antipsychotic drugs being prescribed which cause brain atrophy. There are NO proven brain abnormalities in any patient who is drug naive. Period. Secondly alzheimer is plaque on the brain evidence at autopsy making it a MEDICAL condition, not psychiatric. You need better facts. Research Loren Mosher former Chief of Schizophrenia Research for NIMH.

[MikeSmith618034]

@Hady8771 With the DSM and the company pills everyone is making a killing $ It is very true that a part of why people are messed up is problems with the body/brain and chemotherapy is appropriate in most cases. Just not their Patented toxic drugging agents. (Instant Psychology! Drug the brain and change the Mind - keep drugging and the mind Stays changed). Real chemotherapy involves diet, nutrients, allergy testing, blood and urine testing. See - SafeHarbor - alternativementalhealth

[Hasstradamus]

In 1959 Ritalin was advertised against as being a good antidote against alcohol addiction.

So I guess to psychiatrists being alcohol addicted is a mental disorder too?

Google: "Bonkers Institute: Ritalin drunk"

You'll get a 1959 advertisement for ritalin against alcoholism. Ritalin never cured alcoholism, and it'll never cure ADHD too.

Psychiatry is junk-science, and Ritalin is just an old drug, re-marketed for a new (madeup) disorder. ..ADHD

Thats my take on it.

Hasstradamus

[CapitanWafles]

There is no biological test for dyslexia... does it mean dyslexia does not exist?

If so... than find me an explanation why some children cant for example read they'r own spelling even when they intelectual level is normal or hight and their familly is vell educated? If it's not an illnes than what?

[666Belfast]

@CapitanWafles The point is that it is not a medical disease if there is no medical test. Just because you can't figure out what it is that, by default, does not make it a medical disease.

[brittanythecaptain]

This video doesn't make a lot of sense. She said that disorders are diseases; which, yeah, was probably not the best word, but that doesn't mean that she believes there are "tests" in psychiatry. You just put those words in her mouth.

[88luckystrikes]

This video is just fucking awesome!!!!! They should put it on national television..

[358Liberty]

Ron Paul 2012 Ron Paul actually is fan of Thomas Szasz, libertarian psychiatrist who has helped exposed this fraud in his books.

[deathofisrael]

Bravo , bravo !!!!

[bluehouse1000]

Where did this woman come from? She is a doctor? Come on! She doesn't even know what a real disease is - well no psychiatrist really does anyways, they are just legal drug pushers.

[brandongithness]

what a lying bitch. And she is the President of the American Psychiatric Association? ...wow

these these people are criminals being paid millions by more criminals like Big Pharma and Eli Lilly.

[psychawareness]

These cunts ruined my life.

[DeniseFein]

BRAVO!!! Keep the videos and information coming. The public deserves ACCURATE information....the truth...ALL the facts. Big Pharma's power needs to be challenged and curtailed,

Denise Burne Fein

President/Founder

Break the Silence

[MCelender4]

Maybe she's well-trained in public relations... and not much else...?

[Rockguitarnow]

Yeah, most of the people who work in that field just lie, either that, or they use incorrect grammar.

It's a very stupid field. It's promoted mainly by the Federal Reserve banks who just collapsed then Congress had to bail them out with $10 trillion by Bloomberg's estimates.

[coronet67]

Who cares? She's saying that there is data that shows that some people "believe" in psychiatric diagnosis- that it is "real".

So what?

First off, she doesnt even reference where she got this useless data.

Second, who cares what people think? Does that make it true? Is that the "scientific" data that proves these people arent frauds? Opinion surveys?

C'mon now APA, show us some science. Show us some real data that will convince me you are not the greedy frauds I think you are.

[Hasstradamus]

CBS Evening News May 25, 2009 Risperdal

A video recent report from CBS news showing young boys growing womens breasts because of the psych drugs they got for treating ADHD.

One boy even producing milk out of his womans tit, hes just 7 years old.

Sick.

To see, Google: The Drug of Choice - CBS video

Hasstradamus

[SighKiteTree]

What did the APA think? That making some superannuated Betty Crocker the president that it would provide a kindly, publicly-acceptable face to their ill-intended, money motivated "professional" organization? Nada Stotland, don't you have some grandkids you should be spending more time with??

[ClarityMalibu]

It is abuse to drug people, as if life were not capable of healing itself.Spirit is senior to all the BS and labels... and drugs disconnect the power of the Soul from the body... Where we remove all the lies, propaganda, and false dependencies there is a rising up of mental wellness. Thank you for this brilliant video. 'Bout time the truth were clear, clear, clear!!! Awesome.

[matth84]

really that is so pointless. This quote has no bearing on what the whole interview was about. Also the Psychiatrist's quotes were not in reply to what was said. It is easy to see that the interviewer asked qustions that they would know that would get the right awnser. is there any of the representitves that said she was wrong on film? this is a simple case of miss representation.

[FactsNstuff]

Wait a sec. "miss representation"? Seriously? Is she related to Mr. Incorrect?

I know it's Youtube, but c'mon, try and be semi-literate, at least.

But I guess if anyone should be dubbed "Miss Representation," it'd be this old bag, or maybe "Miss Taken" or "Miss Speak" or "Miss State". No! "Miss Anthrope." Perfect.

[pewpsmith]

obvious troll

[HeatherBrainEater]

Information like this should be on CNN and FOX. None of that other, irrelevent BS. Truth needs to be known.

[TheMeanpeoplesuck]

The CCHR is doing an awesome job of exposing the utter intellectual and scientific VOID that is psychiatry. May they triumph in their pursuits. Fact: Today's psychiatrist is the decendant of the 1800's "mad-house" asylum keepers, who were entirely non-medical individuals--like today's unskilled, minimum-wage psych hospital "aide." Psychiatry--this joke of a "medical specialty"--would be the ultimate laugh if it weren't for all death and ruination it produces (and that is ALL it produces).

[xenujr]

As someone that has been helped by Psychiatry I think the lies spread by the CCHR are disgusting. I have been treated on and off since I was young and I have never been electrocuted and I have never been tied down as you claim are what happens when you go to a phyciatist nor do I know anyone that has either. I have the doctors to thank for my current health and happiness.

[1nodummy]

yo xenujr aka: dumbass, the word is "electroshock" not "electrocuted" and the word is spelled psychiatrist not phyciatist. I suggest you retire as the poster child for psychiatry if this is the best you can do.

[Rikkiness]

C'mon, everybody knows its all about the money. Seriously, people can be so easily fooled these days.

[Cabolover08]

So subjective - where's the science in this profession?

[FireDragonTanya]

I don't care for psychiatrists; however, this video is bullshit & taken out of context! My boyfriend is bipolar & yes he needs medication. There is no cure but yes he can be treated for the rest of his life. This video shows how ignorant people are & how easy it is to sway them with inaccurate info. My boyfriend will have destructive manias lasting days (no sleep) then sleep 3 days straight without even eating. He can't control it! That's a disorder! It's genetic & biochemical, read up on it!

[transenigmatic]

Actually there is no solid evidence that it's genetic or biochemical.  Psychs (or any doctor for that instance) don't even know what a correct chemical balance of the brain is.

[TheSurlybastard]

FireDragonTanya, I don't care for Psychiatrists either. And that sucks about your bf. But ask yourself this: if his diagnosis takes away all his resposibility for his behavior, isn't that a cop out? In the long run does that really help him with his problems? Lots of people struggle in life, but who benefits from turning away from lifes struggles and saying I have no control because it is biological or genetic? You can stay numb with drugs only so long. That shit catches up with you real fast.

[1thebabyalex]

@TheSurlybastard To play the devil's advocate: what of those individuals who say that psychiatry helped them, or, worse, the incredible number of people who have been duped by the pseudo and quasi-science of madness? Try having a cogent argument with either group, and you are sure to run directly into a wall. Nature and ignorance abhor a vacuum! And that is what the biomythology of madness furnishes: an article of faith.

[FireDragonTanya]

I do not care for psychiatrists; however, this video is bullshit & taken out of context! My boyfriend is bipolar and yes, he needs medication. There is no cure, but he can be treated for the rest of his life. This video shows how ignorant people are & how easy it is to sway them with inaccurate info. My boyfriend will have destructive manias lasting days (no sleep) then sleep 3 days straight without even eating. He can't control it! That's a disorder! It is genetic & biochemical, read up on it!

[swagner64]

Granny, go back into the kitchen.

[MariaTheGreat]

WTF?! This is the APA's President? If she's the best the APA can put out there to represent them, then the APA is out to lunch! She's not convincing.

[wiccanbudgiemom]

psych meds are POISON and perpetuate more disease! IM a victim of emotional abuse as a child and this cannot be treated the same way as mental illness. therapy-good therapy if you can afford it might be better. I got off all psych drugs and went holistic and take various natural meds and am much better. I lost a ton of weight caused by the meds.drs thought dieting would help but it didnt. getting off the drugs and taking natural supplements are what made me loose the weight.

[coronet67]

You have to read between the lines when you listen to or read data from the APA or psych pharmaceuticals. They really use semantics to go arond the issues while apparently addressing them. An example here. I actually think she is presenting this as proof that the validity of psychiatric disorders are real. First off, surveys are used all the time to obtain "public opinion" and really cant be trusted from a source with a vested interest such as psychiatry.

[Lastknownuser]

hrmm, If I am Depressed, I get high, and it makes me happier.

I wouldn't say it fixes an "imbalance" in my head, But it gets rid of my depression.

I would assume a Psychiatric drug is intended to do the same thing. If someone feels tense, they give a drug that is Proven to relieve tension. Or anxiety.

Each person can choose wither the side effects are worth the RISK (not all people have them) to get rid of their said problem.

Personally, I'm wondering why you don't show the whole video?

[FactsNstuff]

Each person can choose if the RISKS are explained to them! Psychiatrists don't give informed consent to their patients. Think a psychiatrist informs patients of all the FDA warnings for the drugs? Doubt it.

You're assuming that the drug is "proven"?

From WebMD article , Antidepressants No Better Than Placebo?: "Antidepressants were found to work no better than placebos, leading the researchers to conclude that most patients who take antidepressants probably shouldn't be on them."

[logisticschannel]

H. L. Mencken called psychologists "frauds." They certainly seem to be that. At best.

[coronet67]

"We DO have data showing that people increasingly believe in the validity of psychiatric disorders..."

What does that even mean?

These "people" she speaks of are constantly bombarded with advertizing from the pharmaceuticals.

At one point people probably "increasingly believed" that the earth was the center of the universe.

Lots of people "increasingly believed" in Hitler.

[grampsMiller]

What's the common denominator of frauds like Maddoff, Bayou or Stanford fund ... or even Enron?

Like psychiatry, they tried to make themselves look good to the public while failing to deliver anything of real value.They pretended to for money.

[transenigmatic]

1nodummy seems right. If it's a chemical problem, then it's a body illness/imbalance to be handled by a doctor or nutritionist, not a psychiatrist - they would handle MENTAL problems.

[1nodummy]

Maybe I'm missing something but if mental disorders are biological or "chemical imbalances" in the brain then wouldn't the treatment of these "diseases" be handled by nuerologists instead of psychiatrists?

[facedancing]

This video presents the facts. Watch it - real interviews with real psychs and are they curing, healing or handling people... No!

Watch the video!

[drunkiguana]

We are inundated with psychobabble to keep us in enough confusion that we'll simply defer to the "experts" because we can't sift through the BS the APA propaganda they put out there.

The truth is, it's BS, and anyone who really decides to look will see that in short order.

[drnodrugsthnx09]

Just goes to show you how crooked the psychiatric profession is and how all they can really do is prescribe dangerous drugs. The wife of a friend of mine killed both her kids while on Prozac, and she had never been violent before. Good job exposing these frauds!

[alexismatthes]

If the president is this uneducated then you can only image the stupidity of the rest of the members....

[carolloving]

Hear ye! Hear ye! Psychiatry is a white man's disease. You don't see oriental people defining every quirk of the human mind as an illness. There is no better counsel than family and friends, the ones who know you well.

If you believe the family system is broken in america, you are right. America is sick with social illnesses & needs to rebuild the foundation of family life.

Psychiatry is smug authority over your heart, mind, & soul. carolloving, author

[cakedoodle]

I don't trust the APA!

[beckyguo666]

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world

will know peace -Sri Chimnoy Ghose (印度哲學家和教師)

SHE NEEDS LOVE....ha

She's playing the wrong games.........

wake up please! haha

[tnjqfi]

The only real point here is that psychiatry has nothing to offer but labels and pills and both of these are generally useless if not outright destructive. Many psychiatrists freely admit this (as seen in the video) but the official stance (as also shown) is quite (intentionally) deceptive.

[laladiel]

you dont pay much attention or look into things do you?

[beckyguo666]

She's playing the wrong games.........

wake up please! haha

[avbbcake]

There are no specific tests for Rheumatoid Arthritis or Fybromyalgia yet they are diseases. This is true for many autoimmune disorders, so why can't it be the same for mental illness.

[britishcitizen1]

Actually there is...sed-rate tests or sedimentation rate tests which defines the speed in which blood componentry separates over time. Psychiatry on the other hand is a pseudo science still based on a cocaine addicts assumptions (Sigmund Fraud...oops I mean Freud).

[lostinthelandoflies]

Hey.. Don't forget Junk!! ;-)

[PirateofAnonymous]

Some disorders are permanent and can't be cured as of today, but there are ways to make them less severe.

So because psychiatry can't cure these people to 100% is a complete failure and pointless?

As time goes by, medication will get more effective and we'll hopefully find something that completely cures the patient of the disorder, and you should support this.

[FactsNstuff]

Yes psychiatry is pointless, well put.

Ever read Thomas Szasz?  In over 30 books he's taken apart the psychiatric fallacies and propaganda and shown that it's about political control and duress. The "disease/drug" model is only a more recent, insidious and cowardly method of the control, duress and imprisonment from the days of asylum. Now, the "control" is in a convenient, and profitable, chemical. Psychiatry's goal has always been to appear as "legitimate" medicine, which it never will be.

[RoomShroom]

Well, you chose to overlook the point:) The point being that once the symptoms have diminished, the person ceases to be a patient.

Just like you can have allergies, without needing medication, you can have low selfesteem or paranoia, without needing the assistance of a medical professional.

A person can be termed 'sick' as long as symptoms are affecting everyday life.

I'll bend it out in neon for you: having mild symptoms is NOT the same as being mentally ill.

[awhellnoshaniqua]

Big Brother is watching us

[blizzanddead]

I much prefer the whole, uneditied version of this video to this one. This kind of cherry picking is why I can't watch the network news when they discuss politics.

[blizzanddead]

I much prefer to watch the whole interview. It was a lot more informative than this one. This kind of cherry picking is why I can't watch the network news agencies anymore when they discuss politics.

[TheSurlybastard]

redundant

[Berendo4ever]

Wow. Who could argue with statements like that?

[RoomShroom]

where did my comment go? are you deleting comments that you don't like?

[AlphaOrionis1]

more like comments they have no good answer for.

[1nodummy]

Dear roomshroom, from your comment history and from your profile, I'll take a wild guess and say they are probably just deleting comments that are bigoted and off topic. Do you honestly believe that the APA has your, or anyone besides thier own, best interest at heart?

[RoomShroom]

Awesome cherrypicking of data:)

There are no BIOLOGICAL tests, this is true, that does not mean that there are no valid tests for the symptoms of psychiatric disorders.

As to curing patients, we are not talking about strep throat here. Any symptoms mental illness will remain for a lifetime, but the severity is lessened through proper treatment. When the symptoms no longer interfere with a persons life, the person will no longer need treatment. Is that so hard to understand?

[FactsNstuff]

Symptoms remain for the lifetime? Seriously? That sounds like a great scheme. "Uh, we say you're 'sick' based, and uh, you'll be sick forever...here's your refill." What kind of a "science" claims to have knowledge of mental "illness," yet the practitioners admit they can't do anything for anyone? What's the point then? Pointless labels and years and years of trial and error. You're right, it is hard to understand!

[certifiedhealthnut]

great video! as always nutrition is so overlooked in our society and is the answer to many of the mental imbalances.

imbalances stem from what one puts in their body... that also includes pollution and other unseen environmental elements!

[smeyerson]

Sorry, but not having a quantifiable test and not being curable are not criteria for something not being a disease. Using too many negatives in a sentence -- now THATS a disease.

[schultzcrowd1]

Yeah, my son benefitted from the cure to my disease. He died almost 2 hours after birth from PPHN from my Effexor that hasn't done anything for my depression in 7 years.

[Berendo4ever]

I looked up Effexor. It says it is NOT recommended for children or pregnant women. Or are you saying you were so suicidal that your Doctor still kept you on this while pregnant?

[1nodummy]

Berendo, I can't believe you are talking shit to a mother who lost her kid after taking Effexor. You ever stop to think maybe her doctor didn't warn her of the possible side effects? Do you think they sit you down and tell you all the messed up shit that these drugs can cause before they give them to you?

[laladiel]

did you even think of not taking a med that said "not recommended for pregnant women" while you were pregnant, or are you just looking to try and deflect blame?

[LinuxKid27]

Isn't it nice to live inside of a delusion? This woman is nuts and I feel sorry for anyone who approaches her and actually listens to her fallacies. You cannot prove that a mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance so therefore medications should NEVER be the answer, unless if it can be proven. Cancer is a real Disease.... Bipolar isn't! Psychiatry is the laughing stock in the medical community. I think I'm going to watch High Anxiety tonight.

[ilovethepighat]

"Isn't it nice to live inside of a delusion?"

For awhile until it's time to pay.

[Mona09Sk]

"People understand that depression is a disease"LOL

Great video!

[superlousemama]

Yihaa! Papa says the place is full of potential recrutes. Just sent him there. So dont worry about it, he has everything under... Ups, messanger just arrived looking unhappy... some lice are very sick and from the scouts it seems that her scalp is badly contaminated, and...oh, I had better skip that part. Well allright, shit happens. One never knows with these hosts, they look ok, but under the surface...cesspool. Never mind papa, he's untouchable, but all those poor babies...

[beckyguo666]

GREAT VIDEO! Very easy to understand.

VERY WELL DONE!!!

製作的真好!簡單容易了解!

做得好棒!!!

[beckyguo666]

This video is awsome!!!!!

GOOD JOB!!!!

VERY WELL DONE!

[gisellewilding]

And let us not froget what one of the world's leading psychiatrists Owen Cameron did to normal but low in mode housewifes.

[gisellewilding]

every one should see it.

[gisellewilding]

Good production. Isn;t it strange how often people get diagnosed with these "diseases" while they are going through some trauma ie; marriage breakdown, job loss. I suppose the huge increase in these "disease' with just be a "natural" cause as we enter the biggest economic depression (man made of course) ever. Plenty of money for the drug companies coming up though.

[JLKAJFLKDFKSDKJF]

Two friends lied to about these drugs helping them and their both head cases NOW, not before. Lady don't you see the problems with fronting for the criminal APA?

[coronet67]

She's talking about public opinion. Even at that I think she's mistaken and I wonder where she is getting her information. I think she's just pulling it out of nowhere but it doesnt really matter.

I would guess based on observation that public opinion of psychiatry is very low.

[mythoughtsalone]

Bunch of crooks.

[yeya422]

Bitch has her shit twisted. She needs to check herself... GOOOO CCHR!!! I'm with ya'll!

-Yeya

[federicoharo]

we might be too young as a human species to understand that the answer to help our debilitating conditions do not come from synthetics.

[FactsNstuff]

Really Nada? I'm a person, and I think you're full of crap. Don't lump me in with whatever "people" you're talking about.

By the way, nada means nothing in spanish. As in, psychiatry is worth.

[MsUrnightmare]

Um....maybe she meant to say she believes disorders are diseases. No? Ok maybe she means she thinks they are diseases? No, she's a medical doctor - that won't work either...OK maybe that she hopes these disorders are. OK I tried Nada. I give up.

[Julyjohnson]

This old fruitcake should be locked up. Testimony to how mixed up the APA is. The lunatics are running the asylum. No thanks APA. I don't buy it.