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  • My favorite is when creationist claim that many scientist believe in creationism, and then they start listing scientist that died hundreds of years ago. "Isaac Newton was a Christian....". Alright...well..he also believed in alchemy.

  • Good stuff. I love the way science deniers throw in quotes and paraphrases from un-named scientists, unreferenced papers, and un-named universities. The dishonesty of these people is truly amazing at times.

  • Honestly Q, you are a truly brilliant mind.

  • I hope your voice will come back soon Bud.

    You're a great voice for common sense and reason.

    Good video. That's for the knowledge.

    You spoke at the end, I trust you're back to speaking.

    Happy 3000 subs.

  • 3176th subscriber- q, you rock! Looking forward to hear more from you!

  • Nice video. Anothe example would be a bacteria that was off the coast of Japan which fed on nylon. The reason was that it lived next a nylon producing plant which dumped nylon in the water which bacteria livede. Now how could a creature feed on substance that wasn't around until the early twentieth century. The anwer is that it evloved in this nylon rich enviroment and those with a mutation for nylon consumption won against those bacteria who couldn't. No I.D needed only natural selection.

  • no...ur wrong.... god KNEW that the bacteria would have to eat the nylon so he pre programmed it to be able to digest and utilize it... ha I.D. wins again you tool..... :p.. jk jk

  • So they changed the environment back to the original and found the bacteria which evolved in it were better suited than the mutant. This disproves evolution how again?

    IDiots.

  • One word to all Discovery Institute workers and proponents: IDIOTS!

  • That was easy. They really should have thought that one through a bit more.

  • I agree. DI is full of them. Good point.

  • Congrats on the 3000, make that 3095 subs Q-dude.

  • Great job.

  • Well done, qdragon! Even without talking, you speak more truth than those DI twits doing their play-pretend 'creation science'.

  • All right, Q-dragon, I'll give you your props for this one. You could take the easy road as so many do, shooting the same old fish in a barrel, and everyone would still praise you. But you've made an original and thoughtful video. Extra points for incorporating one of my favorite childhood phrases, "No duh." I didn't know they still said that!

  • Hehehehe, great vid qdragonleet ^^

  • Hey I'm no scientist but that was rediculous! You can't introduce a resitant strain back into the non resistant environment because the original environment wouldn't exist.

  • That creationist vid was more insidious than the norm. I can see how people can be easily fooled by this - IF they don't have rudimentary education in evolutionary theory.

    Good job Q.

  • What, exactly, is the Creationist argument?! Penicillin-resistant Staph- infections, superbugs, and resurgent TB are signatures of Jesus's love? Huh?!

    I'm being serious here. I don't want to put up a Straw Man. Where the f*ck is the Discovery Institute going with this line of inquiry?

  • Good job, Q. I love me some good ol' debunking vids.

    Keep it up.

  • Good job on the video. Whenever I bring this up in conversation, the person I'm talking to normaly tells me the cells "adapted", and didn't evolve. Ok...they obviously don't know how evolution works. Anyway, this one is favorited.

  • Basically what the original video is asserting is the same as saying that if you take freshwater dolphins and put them in the ocean where their ancestors came from, then they won't thrive as well as saltwater dolphins. The stupid: it hurts!

  • You are doing a great job. Keep up the debunking!

  • Did the narrator really ask "What happens to the antibiotic+ bacteria when the environment is changed?" ?

    Thats like asking "How well do polar bears survive when you put them in Brazil?"

  • Congratulations on the 300! And great video too!

  • "Anyways, Now We Get Some Stupid" - I love it! :-)

  • Cute beard... go for the big bushy beard! Every high profile atheist has a big bushy beard... even the girls!

  • Beards are hot. Atheist beards are even hotter. Grrr.

  • It seems QDragon is the next ExtantDodo. Good vid man.

  • I'd say that most traits at some point come to be a trade off. You could make a car out of kevlar that would be bulletproof and lighter than a normal car, handle better, consume less fuel, it wouldn't rust, be better in crashes, on and on

    Wait, so why don't we do this?

    There's an important answer to this... : )

  • Because ppl that support nixon believe in not helping out man kind but support big corporations. human life first, then money.

  • Nixon did more for liberality than obama has done so far. Nixon got us out of vietnam!

    Haha yet we're still in iraq.

    Nixon ended the draft, he established the EPA. Obama just overturned the Clinton era ban of new roads on federal lands.

    Oops looks like you fucked up again america.

  • he also established a way of setting up big companies that control lives, such as medical care for everyone. I don't support any political parties. GG on the obama. Hate that stupid piece of shit.

  • what are you refering to??

    LBJ did medicare

  • Ah, but Nixon resigned. Obama won't have, come 2016.

  • You heard it here first: if obama doesn't get healthcare legislation(with the public option) by the time the snowflakes fall, he'll be a lame duck

  • I also disagree(without seeing more evidence) that we would expect distinct species to emerge in bacteria. I mean their sexual recombination is limited to conjugation(they don't have separate chromosomes) so phenotypes are expressed immediately(except methylation)

    They also are subject to a different set of constraints and historical legacies than plants or animals or fungi are.

    Id expect possibly dramatically different rates of divergence between yeast in culture and bacteria in culture.

  • I don't even know if it can be said that there are species of bacteria to begin with. The biological species concept doesn't apply, morphological species doesn't really apply because things like giardia can alternate between some 200 cell surface phenotypes to avoid detection by immune systems.

    At best you could create some sort of genetic similarity mean and draw a big sharpshooter fallacy circle around the whole thing and call that a species. Which in the end would accomplish nothing

  • REPENT TO GOD..........just kidding.

    good work. 5 stars

  • I almost shat myself when reading this. Thought i was going to have to send u to jesus myself. Ty friend, ty

  • Easy answer. They don't have a PhD in Biology. Okay, Wells does, and Behe. But that's about it. See my video on Exposing the Discover Institute. It's populated with philosophers. theologians and lawyers.

    Biologists actually comprise the smallest group at the DI.

  • the reason why the mutant bacteria don't reproduce as well is because they are missing their outer cell membrane. Not all bacteria end up that way though, some of the other ones evolve pumps that excrete antibiotic or break it down (like beta lactimase- the thing with penicilin resistence.)

  • Keep up the good work qdragon. We should do a large scale social experiment where we remove the "selector" (law, order and freedom)and see what happens to the smart resistant bacter....erm I mean, Intelligent Design Scientists......

  • They also forgot that the genetic inheritance from the mutant bacteria is still there and that it increased its genetic representation in its species at large thereby giving all other bacteria in its species some resistance to antibiotics where previously there was none.

    Its like trying to say that if you release a domesticated rabbit into the wild that reproduces and than its offspring spreads its genes across the wild that its genes "disappear".

  • 5stars

  • Why can't you talk?

  • Good debunk. Has DI really resorted to the "remove selection" argument? I have a handful of straws, perhaps I should hold them out and let Wells, Luskin and Dembski grasp at them.

  • You know, if you heat up the arctic poles, the "mutants" that live up there will not be able to compete with warmer-adapted species.

    That is why polar bears and penguins are not animal species themselves, but are actually "mutant bears" and "mutant birds".

    Makes perfect sense.

  • I was hoping to see teh nylong-eating bacteria, but the nuclear reactor rod bacteria is a bit more hardcore, must say:)

  • Great video Q. What a terribly, terribly flawed video from DI. What a surprise.

  • It is flawed, but the problem is that somebody with a small knoledge of genetics will be completely fooled by it.

  • Hey Casey Luskin, because you know you're reading this, I have a quick question. Have you found it difficult to satisfy a woman sexually since a 15 year old kid made you his bitch?

  • owned!

  • i suspect that may just be one factor in luskin's presumed inability to satisfy a woman :)

  • Are you growing a beard there, Q?

  • congrats on the subs mate

  • "We've removed selection" Duh!

    Well done QD

  • Now, there are antibiotic resistant bacteria that eat our most powerful antibiotics as nourishment and people are dying from over antibiotic use. I would say, evolution is very efficient, indeed.

  • I had one of those -- it was bad news.

  • Don't worry, they're not *real* bacteria. They're just mutants.

    If you stop taking the antibiotics, they'll die.

    (lmao...)

  • Stupid creationists.

  • Damn Q........... EXCELLENT!

    Regards,

    Rhysz

  • kepp up your work and

    in GURPS we thrust

  • Very well done. I hope that DI learns a lesson and doesn't DMCA this. Of course, they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did so. This would be INCREDIBLY bad publicity for them.

  • Silly creationists, what will they think of next?

  • @1451tyler:

    I saw your comment and immediately thought of the "Trix Cereal Rabbit":

    "Silly Creationists.... Science is for Scientists...."

  • Congratulations and nice video. It is amazing to me that anti-evolutionists are so confident that they have duped their audience that they can describe mechanisms of evolution and expect people to not notice the connection. It's even more amazing that they are right to be so confident.

  • your smile in the end: priceless ;)

  • congrats on 3000 sir, i don't know wich is bigger now ...your head or your balls! :) well deserved!

  • Congrats! Keep it up!!!

  • qdragon is OVER THREE THOUSAAAAAND!

    congrats sir!

  • I love how the DI thinks they can fool people.

  • Missed your Voice qdragon, Pwnage is so much juicier with vocal inflection, bold typeface cannot provide the dig with the same "facepalm".

    Congrats on 3000

  • Congrats man! Great job!

  • They must understand the fallacies in their argument, but the draw of the church money is too great for their greed:(

  • Congrats on 3000!

  • IDers are stupid. This is like saying if you put a shark in the Sahara and it dies that proves sharks can't have evolved.

  • congrats on reaching 3000 subs Qdragon, I think your balls have grown even larger, you better stop with the excellent debunking before you block out the sun and kill the planet ;-)

  • this is reminiscent of the bee and the fruit bearing flower. for millions of years those 2 organisms have evolved with one another, so much that they are now dependent on one other. if i remove the flower from the bee's environment the flower dies, and vice versa. the bacteria and the antibiotic is the same thing. imagine if i took to bee and put it where no flowers were and watched it die, then i said "ha! see evolution isn't true"... pathetic argument.

  • Congrats on the subs brother!

  • The creo crowd constantly switch and jump from one tactic to another. Deny speciation, then admit it but blather on about 'kinds', then hop back to denial. Same thing with radiometric dating, red shift, natural selection, information theory. They just pick and choose out whatever they think they need at the moment to fool their uneducated listeners. Why do they think they will get away with it? Because they know that their audience will by mindset by and large never see the refutations.

  • Congrats QDRagon!

  • It's always amazing to me how much work DI puts into their vids to keep the woo going. Oh let's lie some more about science and show our sheeple that it's all crap when they use their examples of evolution. Such effort to keep the herd happy and smiling. FAIL

    I hope they keep doing these vids so that most anyone with a high school diploma can debunk their bullshit and then post it. It's like deflecting nerf arrows to a 7 yr old.

  • Thanks for pointing out this turd, Qdragon, and congratulations on 3k subs!

    So, the DI claim deselection of a redundant mutation with costly phenotypic expression is a "surprising" result? Well, I guess it is surprising to idiots.

    Do you thenk they're really this stupid, or are they counting on their viewers to be stupid?

  • Lol, yet another epic fail by the Discovery Institute. Great debunking!

  • Good one!

  • Great PWNAGE! DI is stupid as shit,.

  • The whole pheomenon they are describing proves evolution. And yet they know their followers won't notice - it sounds nice and sciencey.

    BTW I hope you saved the video on your hard drive; it will be DMCAed unless they have learned a lesson.

  • These retarded ID people piss me off.

  • nice work dragonQ I wish I could have said the same as eloquently as you :p

    ( nice glasses :D )

  • I loved this....besides that, huge institutions like DI that the public looks to as an authority should be exposed for their poltical b.s. advocating false info

  • Man, I´m feeling dumber by just watching these idiots :/

  • Congrats on the 3,000 Qd !

  • Wow great video and congrats ;)

  • "In fact, just recently a renowned British bacteriologist,...well, OK he is really not so renowned, because, umm, well, he doesn't really exist, we just made him up"

  • I you think about it deeply, you can even tell that Discovery Institutes's film proves evolution. When you remove pathogen, best fitted organisms survive - this time those unmutated.

    Darwin was right, DI mission failed. ;)

  • These people are so stupid they make me want to cry IQ points.

  • Vegeta!,Whats the scouter Say about his power level?!

    ITS OVER 3000!!!!!!!!

    Wat?!,3000?!?!?!

  • 3:00 +

    Is This what the DiscInst calls a scientific experiment?

    "if we remove all factors that are vital for the process of evolution, voila, we get exactly the result we were looking for: hence Creationi...er,,,sorry, Inteligent Design is proven!"

    What a bunch of F@#*in tits.

    Great vid QD, and grats on 3000. Your Balls have the power!!!

  • Love it when creationsts get pwned. I think, evolution would be alot more borring, if not for them...

  • Qdragon shreds the arses of fundie 'scientists' yet again! Such fun to watch.

    Thankyou Qdragon.

  • In a nutshell sometimes the change in inverement is for good, but we can ignore that.

  • Maybe I'm just getting old but I could'nt stand watching the creationist parts of this video any longer than in five second burst.And the last bit I just skipped through only pausing to read Qdragon's comments. Is it worrisome that I started to know which arguments the DI will use by heart

  • I love the plain idiocy of their videos... These are the champions of Intelligent Design and Creaionism?

    'Well, we took a bacteria out of its home environment, we exposed it to poison and only the poison resistant mutant survived.

    Then we put it back into the environment it's parent was perfectly adapted for, and it wasn't as good as the parent in that environment...'

    Well duh? Fat people like me survive longer in arctic waters than skinny folk, but put us back on a running track and we lose.

  • grats on 3000. Does the DI choose to ignore bacteris like MRSA which have a devistating effect on people who don't have anti-biotics in their systems to begin with, and are therefore stronger and replicate happily until the person dies or the infection is delt with by increasingly agressive treatment.

  • LOL!

    You've made me as proud to be canadian as PCS makes me ashamed to be.

  • nicely done

  • Well done QDragon!

  • So the morons at the Discovery Institute have never heard of an ecological niche? How unsurprising.

  • Odd, considering they are an example of one.

  • @ 4:28 ... The resistant strain is not "less fit", but rather differently fit. It evolved/is designed (ha!) for a different environment. Is a fish less fit than a squirrel, simply because it is removed from water?

  • @ 2:20 ... I think there is an issue with the fact that there have been naturally occurring nuclear reactors in the earth's history.

    @ 2:49 ... At this point they're talking about evolution, though they don't seem to know it. A change in environment effecting which bacterium would be dominant, is evolutionary in nature, regardless of which bacterium wins out.

    @ 3:41 ... No, selection hasn't been removed, as it cannot be removed. The selector has simply been changed.

  • Great Video!

    Like to see more Debunking videos!

  • 5*. Cogent arguments, yours, not the Discovery Institute's.

  • thank you qdragon.

  • Qdragon has done it again.

    (applauds)

  • damn Q, 15 and already debunking

  • Zeus bless you Q!

    You rock!

  • Congrats on the 3K. 5 star and fave.

    DJ

  • Ugh, makes me cringe. Can't think any more!

    Great source, but the way.

  • I think that once you recognize a mutant (anything) exists, and acknowledge that said mutant could thrive in a changed environment, that you've pretty much made the case for evolution.

  • it seems like the video that the DI produced is geared toward ignorant people who will stare blankly at their TV screen for several minutes not absorbing a single word that the 'scientists' say, but by the end of it, they 'scientists' conclude that evolution isn't true, and the complacent viewer nods in agreement like he had a clue what just happened.

  • very nicely done

  • Congrats on the 3000, QDragon! I'm proud to be one of them.

    I DID major in science and what these guys are doing is using a lab experiment to 'prove' an otherwise indefensible hypothesis. Sock it to 'em, Q!

  • Grats Q!

  • Great point. The parent bacteria would only outproduce the mutant bacteria if the environmental change that caused the mutation to be advantageous, disappeared.  (assuming of course that the environmental change didn't cause the 'parent bacteria' to go extinct before the change back to the original environment...lol) Congrats on the 3,000 (wow) subs. I'm jealous. I only have 12. : (

  • Congratulations on reaching 3000 subscribers.

    Comment - the scientists talked about one strain of bacteria - and talked as if that was true of all bacteria and talked as if the particular strain that survived in this case was the only form of mutation that would occur. This does not replicate the way this works in nature. The original video is such a crock of shit for suggesting that all mutations are detrimental - proper science would talk about specific bacteria - the ones worked on.

  • I am not a scientists, I'm barely a sophomore in college and still have many courses ahead of me to finish my degree which is NOT a science degree, and even I know that these guys are completely full of shit.

    Oy. Of COURSE the resistant strain loses out fo he parent, you've taken it out of it's "natural" environment and safdjkas;klfdjaskl;fdas. Can't form coherent thought anymore.

    Way to wreck these assclowns, QDragon. Keep 'em coming.

  • congrats!

  • Good job Qdragon. You got those Discovery Institute idiots by the balls.

  • Bastages,., you passed 3k before me...grrrr.....

  • wow, what a bunch of dishonest douchers. Anyone who knows the first thing about evolution could tell they are lying. Not just wrong, but intentionally lying.

  • So flesh-eating bacteria is just going to disappear? lol

  • Hey, glad you got a new vid up! and congrats on 3,000 subs!

  • Keep up the good work qdragon!!

  • can't talk?? what happened?

  • There was too much background noise.

  • Great video.

  • good job qdragon. I hope you can start talking again soon.

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