@sharpanator I have high end Swiss watches, but sometimes I feel like wearing a $200 Seiko Automatic or an Orient. Why? Because I get a lot of value for my money, and I appreciate the simplicity and reliability.
If someone wants an automatic watch, why should the only choice in the market be some Swiss one at $4,000+ dollars? Can't middle class people have nice automatics too?
Anyway, my Omega Speedmaster had to go for repairs after 1 year. My Seiko has worked without servicing for 10 years.
Orient is owned by Seiko. Check out Seiko automatic watches and you'll be surprised at how much quality you get for your money. I love Orient and Seiko. Japanese watches are awesome.
@srkkroh791 umm just saying.... you do know that rolex doesn't use eta movement right? Only their cheaper line of watches which are tudor are using eta movements. But yeah... a rolex a rolex... -_-
cheap quartz watch are more accurate than 2 this.I like quartz watch more than automatic watch.Automatic watch are old tecnology.Why you like old tecnology and expensive.Its not value for money.
@srkkroh791 the mechanism itself is beautiful and interesting. And my automatics are more accurate than non-thermocompensated quartzes and don't require batteries anyway, all but negating any advantage a normal quartz would have. My Planet Orient, never regulated, is less than +5 per month. Same for my Seiko Ananta.
@enakki I wish watch companies would remove the seconds hand if their automatic watches aren't hackable. Seriously, there's no point of having that hand when it's a pain to synchronize with the minutes hand.
@owhsht310 don't agree. the second hand movement is something beautiful, reminding us that time goes on.. and itis possible to hold the second hand on orient watch but it requires a small trick....
simpler is not "better"... it depends on WHY you're buying the watch in the first place. If you think a simple basic robust movement is good then go buy a quartz! I don't wear a watch just to tell me the time, I wear it to tell me the time in a beautiful way. I buy complex movements because it's an appreciation of the finer things in life. Simplicity has it's virtues...
The rotor of the swiss one is not the same rotor ( it has perlage on the assembled one but the one in parts does not ) also the Orient even though it does the job clearly does it at a very low cost of manufacture.
Orient is a clone of a seiko movement and is like a tractor...functional . With regards to ball bearings both have those on the rotor bearing but the pawl winding system of the orient will wear faster and worse than the swiss
Basic and cheap is really the facts of this comparision
One comment mentions that the Orient does not have hand-winding or hacking. Is that related to the simpler assembly? I really like both these features: if you have quite a few watches it is nice to be able to wind the ones you didn't wear today every evening and save the cost of a multi-watch winder! (or the time of resetting the one you choose because it has powered down). And hacking makes it much easier and quicker to set the exact time.
Japanese watches are way more reliable than Swiss watches. I have an automatic Seiko from my father, it works since 23 years now without serivce! That is what I call qualitiy!
To compete at all, the Japanese have to be better, because of the perception of Swiss watches. Actually, the very best Swiss watches are right up there with anything in the world. But anything at a reasonable price, like this Orient watch, is going to be much, much better than a Swiss watch at the same price point. I have an automatic Seiko 5, accurate to +5 sec/day. Cost well under $100. You just can't beat that.
That is right. It is like comparing an AK47 with a M16 whereas the Seiko 5 ist the one gun build with greater tolerances and simpler technic but therfore much more tolerant against abuses like letting it falling down, extreme temperature differences and neglecting services. Yes, it has no hand-winding and second-hacking but it is this simplicity that contributes to its reliability. Like I said I never had to repair it and never serviced it in 23 years! Typic Seiko. I love it!
Orient Watch co. is the largest producer of mechanical timepieces in Japan. The company was founded in Tokyo, Japan in 1950, but its roots date all the way back to the turn of the 20th century.
The company produces 2 million watches per year. Seiko in recent years has taken interest ownership in Orient. Orient is a household name in Asia, Europe, middle east, Africa and South America. However they ignored the North American market for the better part of 60 years.
I think the best part of this video is that you can buy an Orient for under 300, while the Swiss ETA movement can be found in watches costing several thousand. After watching this video I think to myself: "what am I actually paying for?" The depressed global economy has put pressure on the perceived value of luxury brands. Orient offers core luxury features at a reasonable price. Thanks for giving serious watch enthusiasts an option in a depressed economy Orient!
@2322dkk If you're handy you can get a Swiss ETA 2824-2 for $100-$150 on ebay and put the movement in a watch yourself. That's what I do if I want Swiss. I do agree, normally I'd have a Japanese movement any day. I'm wearing a Miyota 8215 right now actually.
Would like to see the Seiko 7S26 movement compared to the eta. The Seiko movement is a legend.
SirStamford27 2 months ago
@sharpanator I have high end Swiss watches, but sometimes I feel like wearing a $200 Seiko Automatic or an Orient. Why? Because I get a lot of value for my money, and I appreciate the simplicity and reliability.
If someone wants an automatic watch, why should the only choice in the market be some Swiss one at $4,000+ dollars? Can't middle class people have nice automatics too?
Anyway, my Omega Speedmaster had to go for repairs after 1 year. My Seiko has worked without servicing for 10 years.
osallent 5 months ago
Orient is owned by Seiko. Check out Seiko automatic watches and you'll be surprised at how much quality you get for your money. I love Orient and Seiko. Japanese watches are awesome.
osallent 5 months ago
orient are more accurate than rolex .
srkkroh791 5 months ago 6
@srkkroh791 amen!
OrientWatchUSA 5 months ago 2
@srkkroh791 umm just saying.... you do know that rolex doesn't use eta movement right? Only their cheaper line of watches which are tudor are using eta movements. But yeah... a rolex a rolex... -_-
1ben1245 2 months ago
cheap quartz watch are more accurate than 2 this.I like quartz watch more than automatic watch.Automatic watch are old tecnology.Why you like old tecnology and expensive.Its not value for money.
srkkroh791 5 months ago
@srkkroh791 the mechanism itself is beautiful and interesting. And my automatics are more accurate than non-thermocompensated quartzes and don't require batteries anyway, all but negating any advantage a normal quartz would have. My Planet Orient, never regulated, is less than +5 per month. Same for my Seiko Ananta.
elenchus 5 months ago
@enakki I wish watch companies would remove the seconds hand if their automatic watches aren't hackable. Seriously, there's no point of having that hand when it's a pain to synchronize with the minutes hand.
owhsht310 7 months ago
@owhsht310 don't agree. the second hand movement is something beautiful, reminding us that time goes on.. and itis possible to hold the second hand on orient watch but it requires a small trick....
enakki 7 months ago
@enakki Please tell us the trick!
eth230 2 months ago
you pulled down the ETA wrong also that japanese auto works similar to an old seiko 7s
UltraViolence14 10 months ago
simpler is not "better"... it depends on WHY you're buying the watch in the first place. If you think a simple basic robust movement is good then go buy a quartz! I don't wear a watch just to tell me the time, I wear it to tell me the time in a beautiful way. I buy complex movements because it's an appreciation of the finer things in life. Simplicity has it's virtues...
coffeeboob 1 year ago
I'm looking for a Orient 5 star
pinochon 1 year ago
Simple is best according to Einstein
hsuson 1 year ago
The rotor of the swiss one is not the same rotor ( it has perlage on the assembled one but the one in parts does not ) also the Orient even though it does the job clearly does it at a very low cost of manufacture.
Orient is a clone of a seiko movement and is like a tractor...functional . With regards to ball bearings both have those on the rotor bearing but the pawl winding system of the orient will wear faster and worse than the swiss
Basic and cheap is really the facts of this comparision
adswu2008 1 year ago
thank you for this educative video...!
fleedwatches 1 year ago
One comment mentions that the Orient does not have hand-winding or hacking. Is that related to the simpler assembly? I really like both these features: if you have quite a few watches it is nice to be able to wind the ones you didn't wear today every evening and save the cost of a multi-watch winder! (or the time of resetting the one you choose because it has powered down). And hacking makes it much easier and quicker to set the exact time.
SebastianBach99 1 year ago
Simplicity always wins so hats off to the Orient. What really struck me was the ease of the rotor moving.
AVintageWatch 1 year ago
When u do that, u already destroy water resistant?? or not?
CharlieDoan 1 year ago
How 's the hell u gonna see them?? too small screws!
CharlieDoan 1 year ago
Japanese watches are way more reliable than Swiss watches. I have an automatic Seiko from my father, it works since 23 years now without serivce! That is what I call qualitiy!
GoldsteinBaruch 2 years ago
To compete at all, the Japanese have to be better, because of the perception of Swiss watches. Actually, the very best Swiss watches are right up there with anything in the world. But anything at a reasonable price, like this Orient watch, is going to be much, much better than a Swiss watch at the same price point. I have an automatic Seiko 5, accurate to +5 sec/day. Cost well under $100. You just can't beat that.
derkommissar1917 2 years ago
@derkommissar1917
That is right. It is like comparing an AK47 with a M16 whereas the Seiko 5 ist the one gun build with greater tolerances and simpler technic but therfore much more tolerant against abuses like letting it falling down, extreme temperature differences and neglecting services. Yes, it has no hand-winding and second-hacking but it is this simplicity that contributes to its reliability. Like I said I never had to repair it and never serviced it in 23 years! Typic Seiko. I love it!
GoldsteinBaruch 2 years ago 10
How many seconds does it gain/lose a day?
sivadfa 2 years ago
@GoldsteinBaruch
Grand Seiko?
Plastrio 2 years ago
ETA movement can be separeted to many parts.
so I think ETA is more easy to exchange the parts at the time of overhole than orient
echoXohce 2 years ago
talking about winding system, the iwc pellaton winding system is more efficient w/fewer parts still but cost a lot more than eta.
ekek888 2 years ago
orient ftw!!!
tkorulesdaworld 2 years ago
really interesting video, never saw this kind of comparison before. is Orient based in the US or overseas?
alyssadiloreto 2 years ago
Orient Watch co. is the largest producer of mechanical timepieces in Japan. The company was founded in Tokyo, Japan in 1950, but its roots date all the way back to the turn of the 20th century.
The company produces 2 million watches per year. Seiko in recent years has taken interest ownership in Orient. Orient is a household name in Asia, Europe, middle east, Africa and South America. However they ignored the North American market for the better part of 60 years.
Monito1971 2 years ago
Orient just recently opened a distribution center in the USA. However, Orient was started and is maintained in Japan
OrientWatchUSA 2 years ago
I think the best part of this video is that you can buy an Orient for under 300, while the Swiss ETA movement can be found in watches costing several thousand. After watching this video I think to myself: "what am I actually paying for?" The depressed global economy has put pressure on the perceived value of luxury brands. Orient offers core luxury features at a reasonable price. Thanks for giving serious watch enthusiasts an option in a depressed economy Orient!
2322dkk 2 years ago 25
@2322dkk
exactly right, just like Japanese cars... vs the over-designed European automotive marvels!
rkorczeniewski 1 year ago
@2322dkk If you're handy you can get a Swiss ETA 2824-2 for $100-$150 on ebay and put the movement in a watch yourself. That's what I do if I want Swiss. I do agree, normally I'd have a Japanese movement any day. I'm wearing a Miyota 8215 right now actually.
alexneszmer 11 months ago
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derekBBACCT 2 years ago
Orient watches really are quality products.
nittanyliongurl 2 years ago 2
Orient seems like a simple but dependable alternative to the complicated watch part problems!
ashhaz2009 2 years ago
More parts, more wear? Gotta love the simple Orient movement.
kca823 2 years ago
@kca823 Then get a quartz. That`s even less parts...
AftComet 1 year ago
I really like the simplicity of the Orient and the ease with which it can be wound.
jac791 2 years ago