Holy Mysteries And the Mathematics secrets

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Again the translation of the verse is way different than i found it "None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?"

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You know you just suspecting a black proves it you are living in the past when we didn't use to give rights to the Black people, but now they are the same. I think that is the most racist statement ever and just shows the mentality you have. English is not my God here k? I do not value english as anything... yeh a great way to communicate to others and nothing else.

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Yes, I'm 14, Islam gave rights to the slave, black and white. Even in the last speech of Muhammad(pbuh), everybody is the same in front of Allah and differs from no-one except through piety. Verily, than time will prove who is deluded here. I will go no further than that.

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""If verses had to be changed (abrogated) then this means that( the "all-knowing ") Allah did not see these things originally so he wasn't all-knowing!! "" ------ I told you what kind of change, do you not read the whole thing, I gave you the example with the Quranic verse that prohibits drinking. The fundamentals doesn't change it is just that those period of rules were to that period of time only.

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Muslims admit that there are 225 verses CANCELLED by later ones. This doctrine of "abrogation" was stolen from the Talmund. Quote from the Koran(wriite by Mohammed):

"WHATEVER VERSES WE CANCEL,OR CAUSE THEE TO FORGET,WE BRING A BETTER OR ITS LIKE"( S.II v.106)

So the all knowing Allah had to change his mind - ie. he wasn't all-knowing because his name was Mohammed the GREAT FORGER!

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A YANK, yes of course you are. I also suspect you are a black. After all they are really game for any daft theory that comes along. But remember this. It was the Mohammedens who enslaved people, hundreds of ytears before the Germans called them the "lesser beings". You're living in the 7th.Century AD boy! Grow up and thinkfor yourself!

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You are 14 are you friend? Well I suggest that you give up reading works of medieval Middle Eastern of fairy stories, attend school more often and learn to write in ENGLISH. It's you I feel sorry for friend - you are totally deluded! Stick a pin in yourself and wake up!

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For people to Understands these comments... read from the bottom to top .. Jazakkallah.

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"Sent" in the Arabic language? Sent by whom? Didn't "Allah use a "messenger" - ie an angel. Think he got the message wrong. Unless angels are perfect. Are they? Medieaval Arabic is not the same as the modern version. Anyway it matters not since the only language that matters is ENGLISH. And didn't the inventor of Mohammedism only receive these "messages" after having epileptic fits?And it seems that certain of the "mesaages" were wrong as they have had to be abrogated ie.. changed.

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@trackieben 1. The messenger is Gabriel.. sent to Muhammad (pbuh). and wat message wrong... this is a hadith... this is not even Quran.. (ppl recorded this... the life of the prophet...) Yes .. and your faulty way of finding synonms .. like come on... you love your mom ... you don't worship ur mom... I dont know about you .. but i certainly not... 2. Its Islam ... Muhammad was no more than a Man.. 3. epileptic .. this is a state of person going crazy ... you really have no knowledge over this.

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@estimate15accurate Well it is clear you're a Yank or something like that because "mom" means absolutely nothing in ENGLISH, it's American slang, just like the Koran is ancient Arabic slang and means what you want it to mean.But why have certain verses in the Koran been "abrogated"? Seemingly the all-knowing n Allah got the first version wrong! So he can't be all knowing! But Allah has nothing to do with the Koran, it is a fiction invented by Mohammed! Islam is really MOHAMEDISM!

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@trackieben 1. What is a Yank? Its clear you are someone, who is just there to spread misinformation about Islam, but you are failing badly.(Alhamdulillah)2.You said love and worship are same things (indirectly), I gave you the example, of saying... Do you love your mom or you worship your mom? [You are all over the place, slang and this and that, why you changing the subject here?]3.The name of the Book(Quran) is inside the book itself. What better can we call it? when it calls itself Quran.

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@trackieben 4. I answered that first, talk with proof here, Quran is not like the bible here, where it is the; old testament, than the new testament, it is the same as it was 1400 years ago. And the things written in the Quran is not a man's work. You judging me as a "YANK" -- whatever that is, Im 14, and you are like 34.... and still don't know the truth. :( I'm sorry for you.

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@trackieben 5. [Abrogation] This is the idea of "Paul".. that god changes its mind.[Astaghfrullah]. In Islam God dosen't change its mind, but it is in the bible that God changes its mind. There is no verses abrogated in the Quran. If you mean ...a set of rules that is set for a certain period of time and is taken away after the time is expired are you calling that as abrogation?

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@trackieben Ill give you an example; When the Quran came to teach people to get away from intoxicant, dranking. At one point it says; Don't pray if you are under the influence of Intoxicants. [Verse revealed in earliar years], And than another verse came lator and said: now don't drink at all. This means Allah and his wisdom knew that people couldn't stop drinking all of a sudden. [Both of the verses are still in the Quran and nothing has been taken out. :)

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@trackieben Did I say that things have been taken out? So don't make unwarranted presumptions please. If verses had to be changed (abrogated) then this means that( the "all-knowing ") Allah did not see these things originally so he wasn't all-knowing!! In fact he didn't know anything since the Koran is an invention of Mohammed using things stolen from pagan religions and the Torah and the Holy Gospels.

I'd say the Koran is mainly about shagging and slaughter!

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Wrong! the corect word is worship! Worship and love are synonymous in the English language! Your translation is from the nonsense book supplied by the vile regime of fornicators that is the ruling ckass if Saudi Arabia!

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@trackieben Quran was sent in the Arabic Language... and if you want to take the wrong meaning than its up to you...(a single word can have more than 10 meanings) Just like in the Bible it says "don't have pork"... the word's meaning can also be "don't have policeman too"... but Im sure the Bible didn't mean don't have policeman... And the synonms in English dosen't have to be a synonm in Arabic.

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@estimate15accurate than again you are taking the wrong meaning of the word ... and also ignoring all the teachings where he said he is no more than a man... where in the quran it says ... that mohammad(pbuh) was no more than a man... If you ask .. I can give you..

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This stuff was known to the ancient Greeks, hundreds of years befiore Muhammed (the real "god" of Islam) invented this cult.

Muslims ie Mohammedens worship Mohammed - in fact he demands it. Take this passage from Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol.1.No.14 narrated Anas:

THE PROPHET SAID :"None of you will have Faith till he WORSHIPS me more tha his father, his children and all mankind."

Only god(s) are "worshiped" so Mohammed is the real god of Islam

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@trackieben You got your facts wrong... The right translation is: The Prophet said “None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.”

----------------- Mohammed was no more than a prophet. And yes Im sure they knew this *Yeh! Right! Give evidence to support your answer.