Sounded like a good idea at the time: Import into Britain a few million muslims who absolutely hate civil society. Why are those police officers not firing rubber bullets into the horde?
They're throwing shit at the cops and then get pissed when one gets whacked in the face? LOL, I don't think they know what "peaceful demonstration" means.
Honestly im not gonna take sides but this is all because of Israel..dont be a fool and turn a blind eye to the real problem..muslims christians and jews have lived in peace since the crusades..i have many muslim friends and none of them want to start a war..they love europian people and infact they respect our culture and freedoms..but when it comes to the real issue backed up by corruption.. they have a real statement to make..lets not blame each others religion here guys..
@fardiddyg 9-11 is Israel? do you know there are people in UK protesting against Israels actions as well? This is clearly a problem with Islam. Dont shift the blame. It is when moderates like you who do nothing to stop the extremists that we have archaic interpretations of Islam, leading to Sharia law that kills apostates. Fuck that.
I have serious concerns with these imbeciles who claim that they follow the Will of Allah and their Tribe. Mindless cretins, like anyone else who fails to use their brains. Instead it's easier to claim you have to chop off my head 'cause God told you to do so.
No matter what "religion" you follow- you become a mindless, brain-dead puppet for some asswipe in a fancy bathrobe and ratty rags on his head.
Not what the Creator had in mind..
Mohammed is a dead nutjob. Whatcha gonna do? Kill me?
Islam is not a religion of war or inhumanity that you are making it out to be. The religion itself is a very peaceful and calm religion that gets blown out of proportion by extremists who take passages in true literal meaning. Now this isnt to say that im not islamophobic, of course i am because the religion has been involved in multiple violent incidents but isnt the bible just the fabrication of an a delusional man and those who follow it are greedy cash pigs?
I'd rather side with the muslims then most other British people. A few extremists over a majority of nonreactionists anyday of the week.
Violence is wrong, but if violence did occur I'd put money on the side that depends on God. I do agree I wish we didn't need guns...but I'll pack for life or be shot. In any case though, Britian is increasingly treading dangerous ground. Turn to God or perish. The mislead overtake the untrusting and unprepared.
muslims also give the impression to the uneducated that all Arabs are crazy.. lets all keep in mind, even a white Muslim is crazy as hell. Muslim is not a race. Infact many of Mohammeds family members were killed for not converting to Islam. Al Abbas was Mohammeds protector and uncle, he died like a man, alone, and refusing to accept Islam. I know many great Arabs (NON-MUSLIMS)
But you can never trust a person that thinks Mohammed was a good example.. he was a murderer, rapist, child molester
This video is suitable for minors!!! and A MUST to see fact. The agressive barbaric muslim mob which rampaged through downtown London with bloodthursty animal behaviour are warning to ALL EUROPEANS to see what they alowed in to Europe under the pretext of poor inocent socialy thretened arabs who just need work for their family. This animals were ready to kill if their evil fantasies are not fulfieled imideiatly.
"For surely I will command, & will sift the house of Israel among all nations, as grain is sifted in a sieve; Yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground. All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, who say, 'The calamity shall not overtake nor confront us.' "On that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down, & repair its damages; I will raise up its ruins, & rebuild it as in the days of old."
Muslims are a disgrace to humanity. They are like filthy parasites. Muslims come running by the thousands to Europe crying for us to give them homes and money, because their countries suck bigtime 'cause their own ancestors were too lazy to build a civilization. We don't want you here, stay away, find some monkey muslim country and go live in the desert where you can worship your stone age religion. Stay away from US and Europe you disgusting lowlife. Fuck mohammed
It are primitive people that infiltrated in our modern society.
police are told to avoid any fight when they can .
If they would been agressive, it would trigger a small war.
but muslims have no clue, they are not that far yet in civilisation as they think in a caveman way. So their hormons come up and they are ready to fight.,like caveman would do And due to total ignorance and total lack of education and civilisation they call the policemen cowards, as they don't uinderstand .
Try this in the United States of America where we own gun, knife, and weapons collections as hobbies. Bring this to a nice midwestern town and observe the response.
I'm tolerant enough to let people be Mohammedans following a false god, but once you threaten me and my people, that tolerance and patience reaches a crossroads.
That crossroads is where you meet your maker and find the religion and false prophet you've been following have all been in vain.
we never could imagine we would be stuck with such a backwarded civilisation in our streets.
you are lucky, you are warned.
keep it in mind, and don't react like other americans do who think we are racists as we try to warn them. Muslim in the US have not showed their real selves ... yet.
Be sure of one thing : it will come sooner or later ...
idiot........ they are calling them kuffar...... stick it in your ass....... Allah u Ackbar!!! you hear that shit???? anti-globalist bullshit........ Muslims yell Allah u Ackbar you moron......... you are probably a Muslim practicing taqiyya so move on hero......
Even the police are disarmed as well as the citizen's. This is why American's insist on keeping their guns. They will actually put a stop to violent protest when it comes
In America, when protests turn violent or if you feel like your life is endangered, you have a constitutional right to preserve your safety. The people have it, so do the police. You'd be surprised how people will come together when any group of people behave like this. That is unless our government bars the use of firearms by law. Then we will begin to see this kind of action.
We have always had this right, and although we still have murders, there are not as many as in countries that completely disarm everyone. Criminals generally kill people with anything they can find , while normal people usually are not in that mindset, so they die for lack of protection. We have civilians walking around with concealed fire arms that are non law enforcement, and you virtually will never hear of them committing a crime of any sort. If anything, criminals avoid them.
That's rubbish, the United Kingdom disarms everyone and the U.S nearly doubles it in homicide rates, let alone violent crime. What of the Columbine Massacre? Just one example of many of the disastrous results of allowing firearms into the public domain
I guess if the UK has as many people as the US then fine, but isolated incidents do not dictate the whole. Otherwise, cars should be outlawed since more death occur by vehicle than fire arms by leaps and bounds. In early US, the gangs mobs and groups that committed the bulk of the murders had no firearms, they used farm tools and makeshift weapons, knives etc. Fire arms merely level that playing field. Stay at home moms can now equalize herself against a home invader or rapist. Now is that bad?
lol. That was the joke my friend. The U.S. has around 305 million people compared to 61 million in the UK. Statistically we will have more of everything as a matter of simple math probability. for all matters. I respect that you don't ever want to own a gun, and would never encourage you to own one. Or a car for that matter if you feel that they are just tools for death. But feeling that the world should fall in sync with you is indeed a "noobish" argument. Take care.
I have watched people robbed, beaten , and manipulated by criminals stronger than them since I was a young man. If any of the victims would have had a gun, the world would be a safer place. Do you leave one person to live to go on to kill ten, or do you kill one person to save the ten. This grim reality sucks, but is reality none the less. I am glad that where you live is safe. May you never need a gun. But we do not have Islam gone wild problems over here yet because we pack. Keeps it in check
That's because the USA has a lot of blacks and Hispanics. The White population crime rates is about the same as European nations such as England, France and Germany.
And the majority of guns criminals use are obtained illegally (like the Columbine kids).
In case you didn't notice that little debate ended weeks ago, and I have no renewed interest in it by your point. When invited please do contribute but until then please forgive me if I disregard you
It's funny how these "protestors" are going about voicing their concerns violently. Little do they realise they're fuelling the "Muslims are terrorists/haters" stereotype themselves. Irony at its best.
Which is a shame as the vast majority of British Muslims are not like this at all.
Mohammed is the problem of course..... and the uneducated people who think killing, raping, stealing lying, beating women, owning slaves is a good eample.
Islam is the problem Mohammed gave the world........ sure there are many other problems in the world, but Mohammed is the start of the problem. The history of Islam i9s a great story if you are into Stephen King style stories, but Stephen King is fiction, Mohammed was a real monster.......
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Islam existed before Mohammed PBUH he just completed it, therefore he couldn't have given the world 'a problem - Islam'. Mohammed was NEVER the start of the problem and if you think so, it'd be a good idea to have at least SOME type of evidence.
---"Islam existed before Mohammed PBUH he just completed it"---
except that nobody called religion islam - it was just another monotheism called christianity and before that judaism and before that something pagan.....
islam existed before muhammad in the same way christianity existed before christ and judaism existed before abraham.....
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PLEASE JUST read what i was replying to: "Islam is the problem Mohammed gave the world........ sure there are many other problems in the world, but Mohammed is the start of the problem."
Which is why i gave a brief explanation that Islam couldn't have possibly been a problem Mohammed PBUH gave the world, because the religion of Islam has ALWAYS existed, but as Judaism, Christianity before it was given the name of Islam.
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Oh and BDW Just 2 correct you on:"except that nobody called religion islam - it was just another monotheism called christianity and before that judaism and before that something pagan....."
"something pagan" - The term paganism has been defined broadly, to encompass all of the religions OUTSIDE the Abrahamic monotheistic group of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Paganism is the belief of POLYTHEISM, whereas Judaism, Chrsitianity and Islam are 100% MONOTHEISM. Belief in ONE GOD.
Hadith Muslim 020,4696 Mohammed:"The man who dies without participating in JIHAD, who never desired to wage HOLY WAR, dies the death of a HYPOCRITE."
are you going to die a hypocrite??? better get in the Jihad son.......
Hadith Muslim 020,4712 Mohammed:"You shall conquer many lands and Allah will grant you victory over your enemies in battle, but NONE OF YOU should stop practicing for WAR."
have you been practicing?
Mohammeds the great example..... follow the Sunnah brother
you will want something from the Quran right?? You will say this is Hadith...... no problem
Hadith Bukhari 6,60,41 Hudhaifa said,"The following verse was revealed to Mohammed regarding the financial support of Jihad."
Quran 2:195 Spend your wealth generously for Allah's cause [JIHAD] and do not use your own hands to contribute to your destruction. Do good, for surely Allah loves those that do good."
see?
Bukhari 4,52,86 Mohammed:"When you prepare to fight your enemy, take your time."
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This is has no relevance to what you stated before: "Islam is the problem Mohammed gave the world........ sure there are many other problems in the world, but Mohammed is the start of the problem."
As i explained before, and I WILL NOT explain again (as this will be pointless) Islam has ALWAYS existed, THEREFORE Prophet Mohammed PBUH CANNOT be the start of the problem as he was born INTO Islam and died after the completion.
Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
of course, what it doesn't mention is that the muslims were only being driven out of places because they had attacked and occupied them in the first place
also further evidence of religious intolerance and supremacism by muhammad & co
LOL. Maybe you should read it again...It says drive them out of the places that they have driven you out of. That means the Muslims were driven out of places first! And they are only taking back what was already theres. The verse then goes further to say "BUT DON'T TRANSGRESS". Meaning Do NOT take more then what is rightfully yours... which is further proof that they were not fighting an innocent group of people. Read the WHOLE passage not only part of it.
No - YOU read my statement again - I will repeat it for you as you are too stupid to read it for yourself:
"of course, what it doesn't mention is that the muslims were only being driven out of places because they had attacked and occupied them in the first place"
Maybe you should go out and READ a Koran which has actual HISTORICAL refrences/information about WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN EACH CHAPTER WAS REVELED. Then you wouldn't make such assumptions. Becuase your last statement lets me know you are not fully informed about any of the chapters you are quoting.
According to Muslim historians, the Meccans were actually quite tolerant of Muhammad preaching his new religion. Mecca was an open society where different religions were respected. Polytheists, Jews and Christians lived and worshipped side-by-side, especially during the holy months, when pagan pilgrims would travel long distances from beyond the city to perform their rituals at the Kaaba.
Muhammad brought on the resentment of the local people by breaking with tradition and cursing other religions: When the apostle openly displayed Islam as Allah ordered him, his people did not withdraw or turn against him, so far as I have heard, until he spoke disparagingly of their gods. When he did that, they took great offence and resolved unanimously to treat him as an enemy. (Ibn Ishaq 167)
Although asked to stop, Muhammad continued to stir up trouble by condemning the local religion, causing the Meccans great anxiety: [The Meccans] said they had never known anything like the trouble they had endured from this fellow. He had declared their mode of life foolish, insulted their forefathers, reviled their religion, divided the community and cursed their gods (Ibn Ishaq 183).
Not only was this an insult to the people and their traditions, but it also threatened the local economy, which depended on the annual pilgrimage.
Further proof that the Meccans did not have a problem with Islam existing side-by-side with their own religion is found in the episode known as the Satanic Verses. According to Muslim historians, Muhammad briefly agreed to their demand to cease disparaging the local gods and recognize the rights of others to their religion:
When [the Meccans] heard that, they rejoiced. What he had said about their gods pleased and delighted them, and they gave ear to him When he came to the prostration and finished the chapter, he prostrated and the Muslims followed their prophet in it, having faith in what he brought them and obeying his command. Those mushrikūn of Quraysh and others who were in the mosque also prostrated on account of what they had heard him say about their gods. (al-Tabari, the Tarikh Vol. 1)
The Meccans were relieved that the unprecedented tension over religious beliefs was broken. They rejoiced by praying alongside the Muslims at the Kaaba. They accepted the Muslims once Muhammad accepted them.
Unfortunately the period of peace and brotherhood was short-lived. Muhammad soon reneged on his words after his own people began to question the contradiction between his previous claims and his new-found tolerance for other faiths. This incident, increased the tension and hostility.
After his influential uncle died, Muhammad was exposed to the wrath of the Meccans, whom he had been insulting free of penalty for so many years. Still, they did not seek to harm him, because they believed that his vulnerability following the death of his protector meant that he would finally stop stirring up trouble.
Muhammad eventually made an alliance with another town, Medina, that included provisions of war against the Meccans. The parties to the treaty were asked Do you realize to what you are committing yourselves in pledging your support to this man? It is to war against all and sundry (Ibn Ishaq 299). The pledge to war is further confirmed in Ibn Ishaq 305.
Therefore, it was only after Muhammad committed himself to armed revolution against the Meccans that the towns leaders sought to have him either killed or evicted.
The historical account also flatly contradicts the popular view that all Muslims had to flee Mecca following Muhammads declaration of war. In fact, it was only Muhammad himself whom the Meccans were interested in seizing.
This is proven by the episode recounted in Ibn Ishaq (326-328) in which Muhammad's own son-in-law, Ali, sleeps in his bed to trick his enemies into thinking that they had cornered him on the night they came to seize him.
Not only did the Meccans do no harm to Ali, even after finding out that he had fooled them, but he remained in the city for several days thereafter with Muhammads daughter in order to arrange the transfer of the family business to Medina.
Muslim biographers provide the names of other Muslims who continued to live in Mecca following Muhammads departure and there is no record that they were persecuted. There is even some evidence that the Muslims in Medina were allowed to conduct pilgrimages to Mecca during the holy months (Ibn Ishaq 424 & Quran 2:196).
It is important to note that Muhammad justified his own eviction at the hands of the Meccans by his subsequent actions in Medina, where he began evicting the native Jewish tribes within just a few months of arriving. Apologists are fond of claiming that the eviction (and outright execution) of the Jews on the direct order of Muhammad was necessary because of their enmity towards him.
Unfortunately for the Jews, the Muslims were far less patient and far more severe with them than the Meccans had been with Muhammad but this is just one of the many grand hypocrisies of Islam.
I hope you know not all Hadiths are true and also that you need to look at them in context. Anyway at the end of the day allI can do is tell you I don't support terrorism and try to explain the meaning of the Koran IN THE CORRECT WAY. If you choose to belive diffrently it is YOUR PROBLEM not mine. Trust me I won't looses any sleep at night worring about why you CHOOSE to think Muslims want you destroyed when we really dont.
Even though many Muslims earnestly believe that their religion prohibits the killing of innocent people by acts of terrorism, the truth is certainly more complicated. This is why the Jihadis and their detractors are both able to point fingers at the other, while confidently insisting that they are the true Muslims. It is also why organizations that commit atrocities in the name of Allah, like Hamas and Hezbollah, receive moral and financial support from mainstream Muslims and Islamic charities.
In fact, the definition of an innocent person is far more ambiguous in Islam than Muslim apologists will lead others to believe. So, also, is the definition of terrorism.
First, consider that anyone who rejects Muhammad is not considered to be innocent under Islamic law. The most protected and respected of all non-Muslims are the dhimma, the people of the book. These would specifically be Jews and Christians who agree to Islamic rule and pay the jizya (tribute to Muslims).
Yet, the word dhimmi comes from the Arabic root meaning guilt or "blame." ["...the dhimmi parent and sister words mean both 'to blame' as well as safeguards that can be extended to protect the blameworthy" Amitav Ghosh, In an Antique Land]
So, if even the dhimma have a measure of guilt attached to their status (by virtue of having rejected Allahs full truth), then how can non-Muslims who oppose Islamic rule or refuse to pay the jizya be considered innocent?
Within the Islamic community itself there is a category of Muslims who are also said to bear guilt greater even than the average non-believer. These are the hypocrites, or Munafiqin, whom Muhammad referred to in the most derogatory terms. A hypocrite is considered to be a Muslim in name only. They are distinguished either by an unwillingness to wage holy war or by an intention to corrupt the community of believers.
When Muslims kill Muslims in the name of Allah (which occurs quite frequently), they usually do so believing that their victims are Munafiqin or kafir (unbelievers). This is actually a part of Islamic Law known as takfir, in which Muslims are declared apostates and then executed. (A true Muslim would go to paradise anyway, in which case he or she could hardly be expected to nurse a grudge amidst the orgy of sex and wine).
In addition to the murky definition of innocence, there is also the problem of distinguishing terrorism from holy war. Islamic terrorists never refer to themselves as terrorists, but always as holy warriors (Mujahideen, Shahid, or Fedayeen). They consider their acts to be a form of Jihad.
Holy war is something that Muhammad commanded in the Quran and Hadith. In Sura 9:29, he establishes the principle that unbelievers should be fought until they either convert to Islam or accept a state of humiliation under Islamic subjugation. This is confirmed in the Hadith by both Sahih Muslim and Bukhari.
In many places, the prophet of Islam says that Jihad is the ideal path for a Muslim, and that believers should fight in the way of Allah. There are dozens of open-ended passages in the Quran that exhort killing and fighting far more than ones of peace and tolerance.
It is somewhat naïve to think that their inclusion in this "eternal discourse between God and Man" was of historical value only and not intended to be relevant to present-day believers, particularly when there is little to nothing within the text that distinguishes them in such fashion.
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Well then we could condemn all religions for being unjust because you can TWIST any text. Any person with a brain knows that terrorism is a result of POLITICS and ECONOMICS. We know that they are not killing because they woke up one day and after reading the Koran it made them want to hurt people. LOGIC!
AlexiusComnenos said: "I do condemn all religions for being unjust, except perhaps the original and pure form of Buddhism - the TRUE religion of peace.
---"Any person with a brain knows that terrorism is a result of POLITICS and ECONOMICS."---
Definitely politics, as islam is a political ideology - but not economics as many of the recent terrorists have been comfortable financially. - Logic!"
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Well they were all mad about the injustices in places like Palestine (poor economics and unjust politics since 1948). Well any way I gotta go nice talking to you. I'm sure you and and your secularism will give the world PEACE. Even though Stalin and Communist China are secular/athiest. BYE
however - religion has bee trying for thousands of years and has brought much conflict to the world - it is way past time to try something else - secularism has not been given a chance - mainly due to the aggression of the religious.
The biggest mistake you can make is trying to ASSUME and learn about Islam from non Muslims. That is like me trying to learn about Bhuddism form a Hindu. It is not the smartest strategy. P.S. I don't know what you are talking about because they were persected, tortures, driven into poverty, and some killed.
The leading men of Mecca beseeched Muhammad (either directly or through his uncle) to stop mocking the religion of their ancestors:
"Abu Sufyan, with other sundry notables, went to Abu Talib and said: "You know the trouble that exists between us and your nephew, so call him and let us make an agreement that he will leave us alone and we will leave him alone; let him have his religion and we will have ours."(Ibn Ishaq 278)
There is only one recorded death of a Muslim under persecution at Mecca. It is not supported by either Bukhari or Sahih Muslim, although Ibn Sa'd does make a reference to the event that appears to be based on Ibn Ishaq's account. It is unclear why there is not more emphasis placed on the death of Umm Summayah if it is a historical fact. (Interestingly, there is more evidence to support the death of Muhammad's own daughter from the stress of Muslim persecution following her father's death).
"The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period."
Aurangzeb, one of the last Muslim emperors had 10,000 Hindus massacred everyday for an entire year. He alone was responsible for the massacre of at least 3,650,000 Hindus and destruction of more than 11,000 Hindu temples. William Durant has described the Muslim conquests in India as constituting the saddest and goriest chapter in human history. Muslims have destroyed and looted the whole country and have killed countless innocent Hindus in the process.
When did I EVER say that there were no Muslims that were hypocrits?????????????
Furthermore, I could just as easily say Christanity was spread by the sword. Why do you think so many Black Americans are Christians? Also look up at Colonization of Africa, the Middle East, Australia and Manifest destiny. They ALL have Christian undertones as why they happened. However I am SMART enough to know they were based on greed, religion was just a scapegoate.
Come and live here then talk :D you are realy funny. You have so much time to write all these hates and lies ?:D I chosed my religion with my brain. So you can't make me against it with using bad words. If you want to success smth, you have to talk your problem with beauty.
You just seem yourself IGNORANT. that is all. you can't success anything with this way..don't waste your time go and work for peace on the world. don't try to beat Muslims.
I am sure that you didn't read my holy Book Qur'an al karem. If you read it, you would read the rights of women. When Europe was thinking that if women are human or not, our women in Islam was managing the country.
Europe accepted that women are humans in 150 years. Read your history instead of reading part of Qur'an with hate.
Before Islam people who worshiping idols were burning their girls. We ordered not to do. Then you are just ignorant.
Sooooo sorrryyyy I offended you. You must be crying your little eyes out by my big bad evil Racism. I know how Brits throw temper tantrums if someone isn't being PC enough. Poor widdle Brit. There there.
Islam never lets it :D Do Muslims beat their wives then why i haven't seen a women like you said in my country which has %99,9 Muslim population.
I can't understand who told you these lies. I have never heard what you said.
this sign is ok. I never had a problem with it as a Muslimah. Thank to Allah he doesn't let wives and husbands break up, he solves their problems with kindness!!
I was there to join the protest - a very proud day for muslims! The police know they cannot mess with us . They were scared of us hahahaah fucking pigs! They can only mess with some anti capitlaist protestors. We fuckin beat the pigs!!
ISLAM IS INEVITABLY DOOMED and this is why.Its just a matter of time before its radicals do something totally insane sealing their fate. Unfortunately they will probably kill 2 or 3 hundred thousand innocent people in the process. Infuriating the rest of the free world and forcing it will wipe islam from the face of the earth. I predict it to happen soon after Iran makes weapons grade plutonium.
No, I mean why can't I see one in person? ... like I'm walking down the street, and all of the sudden there's a angry mob of stupid muslims threatening to kill all westerners.
Go free palistine yourself u fucking bastards. If i was there I would throw Molotov cocktails and burn some of them ragheads. Why dont the police shot one at them, watch they will all run away like muhammad got fucked!
Sounded like a good idea at the time: Import into Britain a few million muslims who absolutely hate civil society. Why are those police officers not firing rubber bullets into the horde?
thowdy 1 day ago
resist islam while u still can
lafontaine13 1 month ago
i would claim islam is not a peaceful religion.
iputonchrist 9 months ago
GROSS FUCKING MUSLIMS
Perfehct 10 months ago
They're throwing shit at the cops and then get pissed when one gets whacked in the face? LOL, I don't think they know what "peaceful demonstration" means.
IceTeaEdwin 1 year ago
Idiots!
shawnlshs 1 year ago
FREE DESYTOY FOR ALL MUSLIMS
unfukmie 1 year ago
HAHAHAH
ollybreh 1 year ago
Allah derka derka jihad!!! I kill you! I put jihad on your soul!!! Allah derka barka larka! sherpa sherpa mohammad jihad!
Death be upon you, infidel! derka derka jihad!!!
blattt188 1 year ago
Honestly im not gonna take sides but this is all because of Israel..dont be a fool and turn a blind eye to the real problem..muslims christians and jews have lived in peace since the crusades..i have many muslim friends and none of them want to start a war..they love europian people and infact they respect our culture and freedoms..but when it comes to the real issue backed up by corruption.. they have a real statement to make..lets not blame each others religion here guys..
fardiddyg 1 year ago
@fardiddyg 9-11 is Israel? do you know there are people in UK protesting against Israels actions as well? This is clearly a problem with Islam. Dont shift the blame. It is when moderates like you who do nothing to stop the extremists that we have archaic interpretations of Islam, leading to Sharia law that kills apostates. Fuck that.
gooieslee 8 months ago
stupid muslims! if u want to do this shit go back in your f****ng country!!i want just to say Allah kaleui!!!ahahahahah!
mafio99 1 year ago
Allah is dead. mohammed is,likewise, also very much dead. all gods will die leaving only man.
greenghost2008 1 year ago
muslim wastemans
dazza29111986 1 year ago
at least we got the guts to stand up for palastine, fuck isreal fukin losers
RizwanKhan101 1 year ago
religion of peace in action!
LowresTV 2 years ago
why police is civilized whith people that need to be treated with strenght?
LowresTV 2 years ago
Allah is animal. Muslims are animals.
Гондоны.
ssnakessnake1 2 years ago
why arent these dirty ragheads being beaten with nightsticks and teargassed? what kind of cops are these? damn.
pavlopwnsyourface 2 years ago
I have serious concerns with these imbeciles who claim that they follow the Will of Allah and their Tribe. Mindless cretins, like anyone else who fails to use their brains. Instead it's easier to claim you have to chop off my head 'cause God told you to do so.
No matter what "religion" you follow- you become a mindless, brain-dead puppet for some asswipe in a fancy bathrobe and ratty rags on his head.
Not what the Creator had in mind..
Mohammed is a dead nutjob. Whatcha gonna do? Kill me?
docmackinnon 2 years ago
lol at 9:08 the guy goes and pushes or punches the guy and they all help the clown get up... dam injustice rite there
radness4life 2 years ago
For a religion that Major Nidal Hasan claims "Values Death more than Life", then let us help you on your way.
Islam is NOT a religion of peace, it is a religion of slavery, torture, ignorance and hate.
The Koran is a fabrication of a madman, and those who follow it are mindless slaves.
docmackinnon 2 years ago
Islam is not a religion of war or inhumanity that you are making it out to be. The religion itself is a very peaceful and calm religion that gets blown out of proportion by extremists who take passages in true literal meaning. Now this isnt to say that im not islamophobic, of course i am because the religion has been involved in multiple violent incidents but isnt the bible just the fabrication of an a delusional man and those who follow it are greedy cash pigs?
radness4life 2 years ago
your prophet was a terrorist, he is wanted for crimes against humanity.
TPS996 2 years ago 3
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Free palstine 4ever !
we did that too ! in NYC ~
(Allah Akbar )
u better fix the title..write (Muslims go crazy)or Muslim GOES crazy, or muslims r goin crazy... LOL ima teach u grammer !
RealPolyana 2 years ago
Allah Snackbar....... keep your pedophile prophet......
KCUAC 2 years ago 6
I'd rather side with the muslims then most other British people. A few extremists over a majority of nonreactionists anyday of the week.
Violence is wrong, but if violence did occur I'd put money on the side that depends on God. I do agree I wish we didn't need guns...but I'll pack for life or be shot. In any case though, Britian is increasingly treading dangerous ground. Turn to God or perish. The mislead overtake the untrusting and unprepared.
AllenJB52 2 years ago
Islam is a religion of peace, insult our profit moohammad and we'll f*cking kill you!
TurboDally 2 years ago
muslims give indians a bad name as well wid this shameful act
iitian420 2 years ago 2
muslims also give the impression to the uneducated that all Arabs are crazy.. lets all keep in mind, even a white Muslim is crazy as hell. Muslim is not a race. Infact many of Mohammeds family members were killed for not converting to Islam. Al Abbas was Mohammeds protector and uncle, he died like a man, alone, and refusing to accept Islam. I know many great Arabs (NON-MUSLIMS)
But you can never trust a person that thinks Mohammed was a good example.. he was a murderer, rapist, child molester
KCUAC 2 years ago 3
some one plz stoot des rag heads...
iitian420 2 years ago
someone shoot these sand niggers.......
violentsilence4u 2 years ago
This video is suitable for minors!!! and A MUST to see fact. The agressive barbaric muslim mob which rampaged through downtown London with bloodthursty animal behaviour are warning to ALL EUROPEANS to see what they alowed in to Europe under the pretext of poor inocent socialy thretened arabs who just need work for their family. This animals were ready to kill if their evil fantasies are not fulfieled imideiatly.
tomislavvajs 2 years ago
Wrong!
Coming to a city near you!
Amos 9:9-11
"For surely I will command, & will sift the house of Israel among all nations, as grain is sifted in a sieve; Yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground. All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, who say, 'The calamity shall not overtake nor confront us.' "On that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down, & repair its damages; I will raise up its ruins, & rebuild it as in the days of old."
johndeweb 2 years ago 2
Only in England could this happen
AbhiB 2 years ago
Muslims are a disgrace to humanity. They are like filthy parasites. Muslims come running by the thousands to Europe crying for us to give them homes and money, because their countries suck bigtime 'cause their own ancestors were too lazy to build a civilization. We don't want you here, stay away, find some monkey muslim country and go live in the desert where you can worship your stone age religion. Stay away from US and Europe you disgusting lowlife. Fuck mohammed
TPS996 2 years ago 3
Please note this video has been flagged - that means the uploader has done a good job - appreciated!
DontBendOverForAllah 2 years ago
It are primitive people that infiltrated in our modern society.
police are told to avoid any fight when they can .
If they would been agressive, it would trigger a small war.
but muslims have no clue, they are not that far yet in civilisation as they think in a caveman way. So their hormons come up and they are ready to fight.,like caveman would do And due to total ignorance and total lack of education and civilisation they call the policemen cowards, as they don't uinderstand .
DePetrick 2 years ago 3
Try this in the United States of America where we own gun, knife, and weapons collections as hobbies. Bring this to a nice midwestern town and observe the response.
I'm tolerant enough to let people be Mohammedans following a false god, but once you threaten me and my people, that tolerance and patience reaches a crossroads.
That crossroads is where you meet your maker and find the religion and false prophet you've been following have all been in vain.
fireproofed 2 years ago 17
AMEN TO THAT!
meemomarcel11 2 years ago 3
fireproofed
Don't make the same mistake as we europeans did
we never could imagine we would be stuck with such a backwarded civilisation in our streets.
you are lucky, you are warned.
keep it in mind, and don't react like other americans do who think we are racists as we try to warn them. Muslim in the US have not showed their real selves ... yet.
Be sure of one thing : it will come sooner or later ...
DePetrick 2 years ago
fireproofed i'll give you a hint:
dont see it as a normal immigration problem
muslims are low civilised immigrants that are SUPPORTED WORLDWIDE by the richest countries in the world : the emirates.
suppored = irritated to herras our society
it is e new phenomena, that's what US citizens should bear in mind.
DePetrick 2 years ago
Eventualy the europeans will have had enough of these fucking rag heads and there will be a violent purge
The Europeans like to think of themselves as the most civilized people
But in the end they are the most violent and intollerant
I just hope that we have the courage to carry out a purge here
dems4amer 2 years ago 13
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these are not muslims but this is the anti globalisation demo
computerNOOB4ever 2 years ago
idiot........ they are calling them kuffar...... stick it in your ass....... Allah u Ackbar!!! you hear that shit???? anti-globalist bullshit........ Muslims yell Allah u Ackbar you moron......... you are probably a Muslim practicing taqiyya so move on hero......
KCUAC 2 years ago
How can you be blind on a computer? These guys are the ones that like to lop your head off .
G0dspelronin 2 years ago 4
Why police don't shoot them?
Mister0ics 2 years ago 5
Even the police are disarmed as well as the citizen's. This is why American's insist on keeping their guns. They will actually put a stop to violent protest when it comes
G0dspelronin 2 years ago 2
put a stop to it how exactly?
Conquestidore 2 years ago
In America, when protests turn violent or if you feel like your life is endangered, you have a constitutional right to preserve your safety. The people have it, so do the police. You'd be surprised how people will come together when any group of people behave like this. That is unless our government bars the use of firearms by law. Then we will begin to see this kind of action.
G0dspelronin 2 years ago
Allowing people to bear firearms generally has a negative impact, surely you'd agree? But in THIS case I'm with you entirely :)
Conquestidore 2 years ago
We have always had this right, and although we still have murders, there are not as many as in countries that completely disarm everyone. Criminals generally kill people with anything they can find , while normal people usually are not in that mindset, so they die for lack of protection. We have civilians walking around with concealed fire arms that are non law enforcement, and you virtually will never hear of them committing a crime of any sort. If anything, criminals avoid them.
G0dspelronin 2 years ago
That's rubbish, the United Kingdom disarms everyone and the U.S nearly doubles it in homicide rates, let alone violent crime. What of the Columbine Massacre? Just one example of many of the disastrous results of allowing firearms into the public domain
Conquestidore 2 years ago
I guess if the UK has as many people as the US then fine, but isolated incidents do not dictate the whole. Otherwise, cars should be outlawed since more death occur by vehicle than fire arms by leaps and bounds. In early US, the gangs mobs and groups that committed the bulk of the murders had no firearms, they used farm tools and makeshift weapons, knives etc. Fire arms merely level that playing field. Stay at home moms can now equalize herself against a home invader or rapist. Now is that bad?
G0dspelronin 2 years ago
wow,,,,,,,,,did you read any of that as you typed? Never mind I ain't got time for a long noobish argument we'll just agree to disagree :)
Conquestidore 2 years ago
lol. That was the joke my friend. The U.S. has around 305 million people compared to 61 million in the UK. Statistically we will have more of everything as a matter of simple math probability. for all matters. I respect that you don't ever want to own a gun, and would never encourage you to own one. Or a car for that matter if you feel that they are just tools for death. But feeling that the world should fall in sync with you is indeed a "noobish" argument. Take care.
G0dspelronin 2 years ago
I fear the concept of a murder 'rate' is beyond the joke? What is a gun but a tool for death? Never mind take care too
you may need to XD
Conquestidore 2 years ago
I have watched people robbed, beaten , and manipulated by criminals stronger than them since I was a young man. If any of the victims would have had a gun, the world would be a safer place. Do you leave one person to live to go on to kill ten, or do you kill one person to save the ten. This grim reality sucks, but is reality none the less. I am glad that where you live is safe. May you never need a gun. But we do not have Islam gone wild problems over here yet because we pack. Keeps it in check
G0dspelronin 2 years ago
That's because the USA has a lot of blacks and Hispanics. The White population crime rates is about the same as European nations such as England, France and Germany.
And the majority of guns criminals use are obtained illegally (like the Columbine kids).
McDonaldsDude 2 years ago
In case you didn't notice that little debate ended weeks ago, and I have no renewed interest in it by your point. When invited please do contribute but until then please forgive me if I disregard you
Conquestidore 2 years ago
Still can't believe you mentioned Columbine, when if anything, it goes against your argument (the kids gained their guns ILLEGALLY).
McDonaldsDude 2 years ago
lol small country has a smaller murder rate because its smaller so....
nuff said-300+ million to 60+million...
ye were gonna have more murders, but atleast its a painless death with a gun shot than being stabbed, beaten, crushed, chocked, starved, etc etc.
imo gunshot>other forms of dieing
radness4life 2 years ago
It's funny how these "protestors" are going about voicing their concerns violently. Little do they realise they're fuelling the "Muslims are terrorists/haters" stereotype themselves. Irony at its best.
Which is a shame as the vast majority of British Muslims are not like this at all.
ricochetj1989 2 years ago
Um, you see, All FUCKING MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS
THERE ARE NO GOOD muslins
Someone needs to come up with a final solution for this problem
dems4amer 2 years ago 4
Absolutely
Geralt666 2 years ago
This needs to be treated not like immigration but an infestation. These sub human pieces of trash need to be exterminated.
Gabe7g 2 years ago 3
Let's put Conservatives in charge of Muslim control, everything else is for the Liberals.
Greywyn7 2 years ago
yahya le islam fayn makan
achrafbel 2 years ago
There should me men armed with assault rifles on the roofs of the adjacent building ready to send these creeps to Allah.
StinkingHombre 2 years ago 5
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Who on earth could really have the right to judge them?? I'd go just as balistic if my brothers and sisters were dealt with unjustly too!!!
SkittlezAddict4Eva 2 years ago
my brothers and sisters have been dealt with unjustly by islam for centuries.
axiomiser 2 years ago 3
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The people of Islam or the religion itself?? Is the real question!
SkittlezAddict4Eva 2 years ago
Mohammed is the problem of course..... and the uneducated people who think killing, raping, stealing lying, beating women, owning slaves is a good eample.
Islam is the problem Mohammed gave the world........ sure there are many other problems in the world, but Mohammed is the start of the problem. The history of Islam i9s a great story if you are into Stephen King style stories, but Stephen King is fiction, Mohammed was a real monster.......
KCUAC 2 years ago
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Islam existed before Mohammed PBUH he just completed it, therefore he couldn't have given the world 'a problem - Islam'. Mohammed was NEVER the start of the problem and if you think so, it'd be a good idea to have at least SOME type of evidence.
SkittlezAddict4Eva 2 years ago
---"Islam existed before Mohammed PBUH he just completed it"---
except that nobody called religion islam - it was just another monotheism called christianity and before that judaism and before that something pagan.....
islam existed before muhammad in the same way christianity existed before christ and judaism existed before abraham.....
so, all in all, a pointless statement.
axiomiser 2 years ago 5
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PLEASE JUST read what i was replying to: "Islam is the problem Mohammed gave the world........ sure there are many other problems in the world, but Mohammed is the start of the problem."
Which is why i gave a brief explanation that Islam couldn't have possibly been a problem Mohammed PBUH gave the world, because the religion of Islam has ALWAYS existed, but as Judaism, Christianity before it was given the name of Islam.
SkittlezAddict4Eva 2 years ago
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Oh and BDW Just 2 correct you on:"except that nobody called religion islam - it was just another monotheism called christianity and before that judaism and before that something pagan....."
"something pagan" - The term paganism has been defined broadly, to encompass all of the religions OUTSIDE the Abrahamic monotheistic group of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Paganism is the belief of POLYTHEISM, whereas Judaism, Chrsitianity and Islam are 100% MONOTHEISM. Belief in ONE GOD.
SkittlezAddict4Eva 2 years ago
That makes absolutely no difference to my statement and still makes yours a pointless one.
axiomiser 2 years ago 6
It's makes a 100% difference to your statement if only you knew the difference between monotheism and polytheism.
SkittlezAddict4Eva 2 years ago
The difference between polytheism and monotheism is irrelevant to my statement.
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
ok......
Hadith Muslim 020,4696 Mohammed:"The man who dies without participating in JIHAD, who never desired to wage HOLY WAR, dies the death of a HYPOCRITE."
are you going to die a hypocrite??? better get in the Jihad son.......
Hadith Muslim 020,4712 Mohammed:"You shall conquer many lands and Allah will grant you victory over your enemies in battle, but NONE OF YOU should stop practicing for WAR."
have you been practicing?
Mohammeds the great example..... follow the Sunnah brother
KCUAC 2 years ago
you will want something from the Quran right?? You will say this is Hadith...... no problem
Hadith Bukhari 6,60,41 Hudhaifa said,"The following verse was revealed to Mohammed regarding the financial support of Jihad."
Quran 2:195 Spend your wealth generously for Allah's cause [JIHAD] and do not use your own hands to contribute to your destruction. Do good, for surely Allah loves those that do good."
see?
Bukhari 4,52,86 Mohammed:"When you prepare to fight your enemy, take your time."
KCUAC 2 years ago
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This is has no relevance to what you stated before: "Islam is the problem Mohammed gave the world........ sure there are many other problems in the world, but Mohammed is the start of the problem."
As i explained before, and I WILL NOT explain again (as this will be pointless) Islam has ALWAYS existed, THEREFORE Prophet Mohammed PBUH CANNOT be the start of the problem as he was born INTO Islam and died after the completion.
SkittlezAddict4Eva 2 years ago
the people of islam following the teachings of the qu'ran and hadith
axiomiser 2 years ago 3
Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
of course, what it doesn't mention is that the muslims were only being driven out of places because they had attacked and occupied them in the first place
also further evidence of religious intolerance and supremacism by muhammad & co
axiomiser 2 years ago
"Sura (2:191-193)"
LOL. Maybe you should read it again...It says drive them out of the places that they have driven you out of. That means the Muslims were driven out of places first! And they are only taking back what was already theres. The verse then goes further to say "BUT DON'T TRANSGRESS". Meaning Do NOT take more then what is rightfully yours... which is further proof that they were not fighting an innocent group of people. Read the WHOLE passage not only part of it.
newtype64 2 years ago
No - YOU read my statement again - I will repeat it for you as you are too stupid to read it for yourself:
"of course, what it doesn't mention is that the muslims were only being driven out of places because they had attacked and occupied them in the first place"
axiomiser 2 years ago
Maybe you should go out and READ a Koran which has actual HISTORICAL refrences/information about WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN EACH CHAPTER WAS REVELED. Then you wouldn't make such assumptions. Becuase your last statement lets me know you are not fully informed about any of the chapters you are quoting.
newtype64 2 years ago
According to Muslim historians, the Meccans were actually quite tolerant of Muhammad preaching his new religion. Mecca was an open society where different religions were respected. Polytheists, Jews and Christians lived and worshipped side-by-side, especially during the holy months, when pagan pilgrims would travel long distances from beyond the city to perform their rituals at the Kaaba.
axiomiser 2 years ago
Muhammad brought on the resentment of the local people by breaking with tradition and cursing other religions: When the apostle openly displayed Islam as Allah ordered him, his people did not withdraw or turn against him, so far as I have heard, until he spoke disparagingly of their gods. When he did that, they took great offence and resolved unanimously to treat him as an enemy. (Ibn Ishaq 167)
axiomiser 2 years ago
Although asked to stop, Muhammad continued to stir up trouble by condemning the local religion, causing the Meccans great anxiety: [The Meccans] said they had never known anything like the trouble they had endured from this fellow. He had declared their mode of life foolish, insulted their forefathers, reviled their religion, divided the community and cursed their gods (Ibn Ishaq 183).
axiomiser 2 years ago
Not only was this an insult to the people and their traditions, but it also threatened the local economy, which depended on the annual pilgrimage.
Further proof that the Meccans did not have a problem with Islam existing side-by-side with their own religion is found in the episode known as the Satanic Verses. According to Muslim historians, Muhammad briefly agreed to their demand to cease disparaging the local gods and recognize the rights of others to their religion:
axiomiser 2 years ago
When [the Meccans] heard that, they rejoiced. What he had said about their gods pleased and delighted them, and they gave ear to him When he came to the prostration and finished the chapter, he prostrated and the Muslims followed their prophet in it, having faith in what he brought them and obeying his command. Those mushrikūn of Quraysh and others who were in the mosque also prostrated on account of what they had heard him say about their gods. (al-Tabari, the Tarikh Vol. 1)
axiomiser 2 years ago
The Meccans were relieved that the unprecedented tension over religious beliefs was broken. They rejoiced by praying alongside the Muslims at the Kaaba. They accepted the Muslims once Muhammad accepted them.
Unfortunately the period of peace and brotherhood was short-lived. Muhammad soon reneged on his words after his own people began to question the contradiction between his previous claims and his new-found tolerance for other faiths. This incident, increased the tension and hostility.
axiomiser 2 years ago
After his influential uncle died, Muhammad was exposed to the wrath of the Meccans, whom he had been insulting free of penalty for so many years. Still, they did not seek to harm him, because they believed that his vulnerability following the death of his protector meant that he would finally stop stirring up trouble.
They were wrong.
axiomiser 2 years ago
Muhammad eventually made an alliance with another town, Medina, that included provisions of war against the Meccans. The parties to the treaty were asked Do you realize to what you are committing yourselves in pledging your support to this man? It is to war against all and sundry (Ibn Ishaq 299). The pledge to war is further confirmed in Ibn Ishaq 305.
axiomiser 2 years ago
Therefore, it was only after Muhammad committed himself to armed revolution against the Meccans that the towns leaders sought to have him either killed or evicted.
The historical account also flatly contradicts the popular view that all Muslims had to flee Mecca following Muhammads declaration of war. In fact, it was only Muhammad himself whom the Meccans were interested in seizing.
axiomiser 2 years ago
This is proven by the episode recounted in Ibn Ishaq (326-328) in which Muhammad's own son-in-law, Ali, sleeps in his bed to trick his enemies into thinking that they had cornered him on the night they came to seize him.
Not only did the Meccans do no harm to Ali, even after finding out that he had fooled them, but he remained in the city for several days thereafter with Muhammads daughter in order to arrange the transfer of the family business to Medina.
axiomiser 2 years ago
Muslim biographers provide the names of other Muslims who continued to live in Mecca following Muhammads departure and there is no record that they were persecuted. There is even some evidence that the Muslims in Medina were allowed to conduct pilgrimages to Mecca during the holy months (Ibn Ishaq 424 & Quran 2:196).
axiomiser 2 years ago
It is important to note that Muhammad justified his own eviction at the hands of the Meccans by his subsequent actions in Medina, where he began evicting the native Jewish tribes within just a few months of arriving. Apologists are fond of claiming that the eviction (and outright execution) of the Jews on the direct order of Muhammad was necessary because of their enmity towards him.
axiomiser 2 years ago
Unfortunately for the Jews, the Muslims were far less patient and far more severe with them than the Meccans had been with Muhammad but this is just one of the many grand hypocrisies of Islam.
A supremacist ideology is always self-justifying.
axiomiser 2 years ago
I hope you know not all Hadiths are true and also that you need to look at them in context. Anyway at the end of the day allI can do is tell you I don't support terrorism and try to explain the meaning of the Koran IN THE CORRECT WAY. If you choose to belive diffrently it is YOUR PROBLEM not mine. Trust me I won't looses any sleep at night worring about why you CHOOSE to think Muslims want you destroyed when we really dont.
newtype64 2 years ago
The correct way to look at the koran, as with any other book, is to look at it critically and logically and examine its claims thoroughly.
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
Even though many Muslims earnestly believe that their religion prohibits the killing of innocent people by acts of terrorism, the truth is certainly more complicated. This is why the Jihadis and their detractors are both able to point fingers at the other, while confidently insisting that they are the true Muslims. It is also why organizations that commit atrocities in the name of Allah, like Hamas and Hezbollah, receive moral and financial support from mainstream Muslims and Islamic charities.
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
In fact, the definition of an innocent person is far more ambiguous in Islam than Muslim apologists will lead others to believe. So, also, is the definition of terrorism.
First, consider that anyone who rejects Muhammad is not considered to be innocent under Islamic law. The most protected and respected of all non-Muslims are the dhimma, the people of the book. These would specifically be Jews and Christians who agree to Islamic rule and pay the jizya (tribute to Muslims).
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
Yet, the word dhimmi comes from the Arabic root meaning guilt or "blame." ["...the dhimmi parent and sister words mean both 'to blame' as well as safeguards that can be extended to protect the blameworthy" Amitav Ghosh, In an Antique Land]
So, if even the dhimma have a measure of guilt attached to their status (by virtue of having rejected Allahs full truth), then how can non-Muslims who oppose Islamic rule or refuse to pay the jizya be considered innocent?
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
Within the Islamic community itself there is a category of Muslims who are also said to bear guilt greater even than the average non-believer. These are the hypocrites, or Munafiqin, whom Muhammad referred to in the most derogatory terms. A hypocrite is considered to be a Muslim in name only. They are distinguished either by an unwillingness to wage holy war or by an intention to corrupt the community of believers.
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
When Muslims kill Muslims in the name of Allah (which occurs quite frequently), they usually do so believing that their victims are Munafiqin or kafir (unbelievers). This is actually a part of Islamic Law known as takfir, in which Muslims are declared apostates and then executed. (A true Muslim would go to paradise anyway, in which case he or she could hardly be expected to nurse a grudge amidst the orgy of sex and wine).
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
In addition to the murky definition of innocence, there is also the problem of distinguishing terrorism from holy war. Islamic terrorists never refer to themselves as terrorists, but always as holy warriors (Mujahideen, Shahid, or Fedayeen). They consider their acts to be a form of Jihad.
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
Holy war is something that Muhammad commanded in the Quran and Hadith. In Sura 9:29, he establishes the principle that unbelievers should be fought until they either convert to Islam or accept a state of humiliation under Islamic subjugation. This is confirmed in the Hadith by both Sahih Muslim and Bukhari.
axiomiser 2 years ago
In many places, the prophet of Islam says that Jihad is the ideal path for a Muslim, and that believers should fight in the way of Allah. There are dozens of open-ended passages in the Quran that exhort killing and fighting far more than ones of peace and tolerance.
axiomiser 2 years ago
It is somewhat naïve to think that their inclusion in this "eternal discourse between God and Man" was of historical value only and not intended to be relevant to present-day believers, particularly when there is little to nothing within the text that distinguishes them in such fashion.
axiomiser 2 years ago
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Well then we could condemn all religions for being unjust because you can TWIST any text. Any person with a brain knows that terrorism is a result of POLITICS and ECONOMICS. We know that they are not killing because they woke up one day and after reading the Koran it made them want to hurt people. LOGIC!
newtype64 2 years ago
I do condemn all religions for being unjust, except perhaps the original and pure form of Buddhism - the TRUE religion of peace.
---"Any person with a brain knows that terrorism is a result of POLITICS and ECONOMICS."---
Definitely politics, as islam is a political ideology - but not economics as many of the recent terrorists have been comfortable financially. - Logic!
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 3
AlexiusComnenos said: "I do condemn all religions for being unjust, except perhaps the original and pure form of Buddhism - the TRUE religion of peace.
---"Any person with a brain knows that terrorism is a result of POLITICS and ECONOMICS."---
Definitely politics, as islam is a political ideology - but not economics as many of the recent terrorists have been comfortable financially. - Logic!"
Exactly!
axiomiser 2 years ago 4
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What I ment were economic injustices of their people. By the way Bhuddism is guilty of the same thing look up the "Boxer Rebelion"...
newtype64 2 years ago
in the case of 7/7, "their" people were the british
in the case of madrid, "their" people were the spanish
in the case of 9/11, "their" people were the saudis
none of whom have a particularly poor economy
which part of: "except perhaps the original and pure form of Buddhism" is giving you trouble?
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 5
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Well they were all mad about the injustices in places like Palestine (poor economics and unjust politics since 1948). Well any way I gotta go nice talking to you. I'm sure you and and your secularism will give the world PEACE. Even though Stalin and Communist China are secular/athiest. BYE
newtype64 2 years ago
Stalin and Communist China are not secular - they do not/did not allow the free practice of religion
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 5
however - religion has bee trying for thousands of years and has brought much conflict to the world - it is way past time to try something else - secularism has not been given a chance - mainly due to the aggression of the religious.
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 4
Peace... would be good.
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 5
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Go and attack/ oppress a group of Bhuddist and see don't get your butt kicked.
newtype64 2 years ago
which part of: "except perhaps the original and pure form of Buddhism" is giving you trouble?
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 3
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Original Buddism is unrealistic unless you really think noone will ever try to take advantage/kill of you which is quite stupid.
newtype64 2 years ago
do you not understand the meaning of "except perhaps"?
AlexiusComnenos 2 years ago 4
The biggest mistake you can make is trying to ASSUME and learn about Islam from non Muslims. That is like me trying to learn about Bhuddism form a Hindu. It is not the smartest strategy. P.S. I don't know what you are talking about because they were persected, tortures, driven into poverty, and some killed.
newtype64 2 years ago
The leading men of Mecca beseeched Muhammad (either directly or through his uncle) to stop mocking the religion of their ancestors:
"Abu Sufyan, with other sundry notables, went to Abu Talib and said: "You know the trouble that exists between us and your nephew, so call him and let us make an agreement that he will leave us alone and we will leave him alone; let him have his religion and we will have ours."(Ibn Ishaq 278)
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
There is only one recorded death of a Muslim under persecution at Mecca. It is not supported by either Bukhari or Sahih Muslim, although Ibn Sa'd does make a reference to the event that appears to be based on Ibn Ishaq's account. It is unclear why there is not more emphasis placed on the death of Umm Summayah if it is a historical fact. (Interestingly, there is more evidence to support the death of Muhammad's own daughter from the stress of Muslim persecution following her father's death).
axiomiser 2 years ago 2
According to the famous and universally respected historian Will Durant, Muslims committed the worst genocide in history.
Will Durant argued in his 1935 book "The Story of Civilization: Our Oriental Heritage" (page 459):
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axiomiser 2 years ago
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"The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period."
axiomiser 2 years ago
Aurangzeb, one of the last Muslim emperors had 10,000 Hindus massacred everyday for an entire year. He alone was responsible for the massacre of at least 3,650,000 Hindus and destruction of more than 11,000 Hindu temples. William Durant has described the Muslim conquests in India as constituting the saddest and goriest chapter in human history. Muslims have destroyed and looted the whole country and have killed countless innocent Hindus in the process.
axiomiser 2 years ago
When did I EVER say that there were no Muslims that were hypocrits?????????????
Furthermore, I could just as easily say Christanity was spread by the sword. Why do you think so many Black Americans are Christians? Also look up at Colonization of Africa, the Middle East, Australia and Manifest destiny. They ALL have Christian undertones as why they happened. However I am SMART enough to know they were based on greed, religion was just a scapegoate.
newtype64 2 years ago
you could easily say that, yes - however, that would not make it true.
axiomiser 2 years ago
I don't like what few individuals did on this protest, attacking police personnel, but that's what UK government deserves for selling Palestine.
FataOrlovic 2 years ago
the police should beat the shit out of this pakie cunts deport them all the scum!"
facejapan 2 years ago
Another reason for the never ending rape of European girls by Muslim animals. They usually rape them young too, just like Muhammad did.
madhammu 2 years ago 2
What the hell happened there?..Why did muslims do that?
DirtyThing20 2 years ago
because thats what they always do!" there attention seeking cunts. and thats putting it lightly.
facejapan 2 years ago 3
i think that police should be able to use force on crowds like this. Its a disgrace to let things like this happen
bmcrf250 2 years ago 2
Come and live here then talk :D you are realy funny. You have so much time to write all these hates and lies ?:D I chosed my religion with my brain. So you can't make me against it with using bad words. If you want to success smth, you have to talk your problem with beauty.
You just seem yourself IGNORANT. that is all. you can't success anything with this way..don't waste your time go and work for peace on the world. don't try to beat Muslims.
rukiyefr 2 years ago
I am sure that you didn't read my holy Book Qur'an al karem. If you read it, you would read the rights of women. When Europe was thinking that if women are human or not, our women in Islam was managing the country.
Europe accepted that women are humans in 150 years. Read your history instead of reading part of Qur'an with hate.
Before Islam people who worshiping idols were burning their girls. We ordered not to do. Then you are just ignorant.
Peace
rukiyefr 2 years ago
Run Brits run just like the cowards you are.
The British are a bunch of Gutless cowards.
They deserve to be ruled by Muslims. They are a fucking disgrace to the Western World.
madhammu 2 years ago
wat like 10 police against hundreds of muslims
dont think so.
dont be racist u cunt
bmcrf250 2 years ago 2
Oh nooooo I was racist? To whom, do tell.
Sooooo sorrryyyy I offended you. You must be crying your little eyes out by my big bad evil Racism. I know how Brits throw temper tantrums if someone isn't being PC enough. Poor widdle Brit. There there.
madhammu 2 years ago
Islam never lets it :D Do Muslims beat their wives then why i haven't seen a women like you said in my country which has %99,9 Muslim population.
I can't understand who told you these lies. I have never heard what you said.
this sign is ok. I never had a problem with it as a Muslimah. Thank to Allah he doesn't let wives and husbands break up, he solves their problems with kindness!!
Thank to Allah so much.
peace at home, peace in the world
rukiyefr 2 years ago
Islam! What a beatiful religion! IAllahu Akbar!
If a person doesn't support peace,justice, if a person does supports aggression, fight "!(without a reason)!", he can't be a Muslim.
If you want to be a Muslim, you firstly have to accept this:
No God, but Allah
Muhammad is His Messenger.
Then you have to believe the words of Muhammad pbuh. so He ordered these to us and all ummah of Muhammad peace be upon u my prophet I love You!
Peace
rukiyefr 2 years ago
I was there to join the protest - a very proud day for muslims! The police know they cannot mess with us . They were scared of us hahahaah fucking pigs! They can only mess with some anti capitlaist protestors. We fuckin beat the pigs!!
Faztastico 2 years ago
You are so primtive and retarded you mistake tolerance for something else.
Keep it up. You pakis are throwing yourselves right into the hands of the far right. And I assure they wont be tolerant.
Get it into your thick paki skull. Minorities are not feared. They are tolerated till they become intolerable.
oppozed1 2 years ago 2
If i was Prime Minister
If only
HXCJohnse 2 years ago 2
ISLAM IS INEVITABLY DOOMED and this is why.Its just a matter of time before its radicals do something totally insane sealing their fate. Unfortunately they will probably kill 2 or 3 hundred thousand innocent people in the process. Infuriating the rest of the free world and forcing it will wipe islam from the face of the earth. I predict it to happen soon after Iran makes weapons grade plutonium.
rottendrew 2 years ago 3
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rottendrew 2 years ago
the West must end this shit. why can't i ever see one of these protests?
makesyoumadd 2 years ago 2
The spineless government placed a news-block on it.
davidjames789 2 years ago
No, I mean why can't I see one in person? ... like I'm walking down the street, and all of the sudden there's a angry mob of stupid muslims threatening to kill all westerners.
makesyoumadd 2 years ago
Have you not? come to my home town of Bradford mate.
davidjames789 2 years ago
You are a stupid liar - how can the governemt place news block. This is not israel!
Faztastico 2 years ago
It's such a peacefully religion.
pillsareyummy 2 years ago 3
nasty violent threatening bullying analstains of humanity.
scuddycares 2 years ago 2
Muslims Pig Fuckers! Kill 'Em All!!
Shinobi303 2 years ago 2
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florisbaretta 2 years ago
Allah OglaighNaHHeireann
pater429 2 years ago
Go free palistine yourself u fucking bastards. If i was there I would throw Molotov cocktails and burn some of them ragheads. Why dont the police shot one at them, watch they will all run away like muhammad got fucked!
punjabifauj 2 years ago 4
Time to send them home!
Vuvar11 2 years ago 9