yeah he didnt do a great job did he? but it was a small fire, the building wasnt fully involved, and it may have been a practice or training move on the firefighters part
The structure looks like a worthless dump. What about breaking a window or two and using PPV rather than risk injury. There's no rescue in progress thus no urgency to take risks. Each dept. should have a bull dozer respond on all structure fires. :)
I wonder how many of the nitwits that rip on the job the firefighters are doing have actually put on gear and fought a fire? Get your ass into a real working fire and then see if you can do the job better.
@Rangerbelt that is very true let em rip im gonna do my job and do it to the best of my ability most of them flunked out of some academy or out of firefighting those temperatures in those houses get so hot that in the dead of winter you walk out and your underwear is soaked completely in sweat let em rip im enjoying myself everyday on the job
i think he did fine wtf is wrong with everyone and being perfect the best tool u got is ur hands i would have done the same thing if i forgot my pike or rubish hook
Ok guys, lets stop running our mouths, because every firefighter know's he or she has forgotten to bring the proper tool when getting off the truck at least once in their career. This Vent job is not as bad as everyone is saying. Yes they were doing it in an unsafe fashion, but they still got the hole cut.
@MrCrazyfirefighter However, it is not just that you reach your goal of "getting a hole" or "getting the fire out". The manner, efficiency and safety all matter, a lot.
Training, discipline and good command should overcome this kind of screw ups. And why they were on that roof? Was there a rescue going on? Were there firefighters inside? Did that affect the outcome of the firefighting effort?
@pomppa85 Yes training, discipline and good command structure, can At times prevent these types of miscues. But as we all know, orders on the fireground don't always go the way we plan for, train for, or even how command wants it done. I just dont like for videos like this to get so much negative feedback, this should be used for training only.
And yes safety it number 1 on the priority list, but these mistakes are also good, so you can learn from them later
@MrCrazyfirefighter Yes, I agree, these are current training material. What I am still saying that I feel that these kinds of mistakes and continuing overlooks aren't addressed as they should be.
@Hobbitchoker. You tell them. I'm a volunteer firefighter with a department that a average of 500 calls a year with a total of 9 people. Lets see a paid department do that. Again I think you for caring
Aside from the whole using his hands thing, the fundamentals are all off.... It's called "Peaked roof ventilation" for a reason, meaning, oh I dunno, cut at the peak of the roof, not the middle. Also, once you've mastered cutting in the right place, try cutting in the right sequence, your last cut should be the closest one to you so your not right over top the hole...
@blinko656 That is true, but there is no excuse for this. The back-up man ALWAYS brings a tool. That's firefighting 101, not just roof work. If the back-up guy has nothing with him, what good is he? (except extra weight on a burning structure). The tool not only is vital in knocking through the cut hole and down through the ceiling boards, but is also useful, if used properly, to act as a safety railing for the member making the cut.
@RonaldReagan7 I understand. Im retired now but when we trained we were suppose to get water on initial attack in 45 seconds. I watch videos today and man are these guys slow not everybody but many. While training I fell once on a 2 1/2 gated wye and injured myself bigtime. Three herinaed discs I babied for years..
ok buddy when u say most, you mean around you... FRX witch is a non profit company will be in all fire departments by 2013. they will theach u how to do it the best and safest way possible. and next time please dont hate on fire fighters.. we do more then expected every day of the year... Thanks, Station 11 piney green 1151.
@ffsc1977 Come out with our department and see if we vent! Have you ever been on a rural fire? Have you ever vented a house trailer or double wide? You talk like Volunteers are all a bunch of idiots! We train all the time for venting and we do it regularly! Most of the firefighters in the USA are volunteer! We take the same risks with NO pay and in most cases WAY less manpower and equipment! Idiot!
Are there really people saying they don't see where the fail is on this? I do commend them for going up there being alot of folks won't. However, you need a hook and definitely a pickhead axe up there to do it safe and properly. I sure wouldn't want that 30 foot pole.
@ffscc1977 3/4 of America is Volunteer. Unless you have seen every station, or if your even a firefighter, do not insult any part of The Brotherhood. We throw our PPE on the same, we breath the same, and we have a passion for what we do,
They should've vented at the highest point. (the peak) Heat and smoke rises which means that heat and smoke will the greatest at the peak. The man backing him up should have had a hook and pickhead axe with him and the guy doing the cutting could have easily cut his own foot off. ALSO it almost looks like the bulk of the fire was already knocked down so maybe the cut wasnt really necessary but thats a judgment call. Its easy to be an armchair QB.
@fire178man you cut where the mass of heat and smoke is built up dipshit, do you have any knowlage about it at all? its the c/o's call and with that little fire its venting the excess smoke
@chompmyd1ck Like I said, heat and smoke rises so where do you think it will be greatest? I'm going to use my SIXTEEN years in one of the nation's busiest Ladder companies to say that the bulk of the heat and fire would be at the peak. Before you comment, make sure you know what YOU are talking about. Like I said, making that cut was a judgement call. I've been on more roofs than YOU can count and that wasn't much of a fire. You wouldnt last a week in a REAL department.
yeah he didnt do a great job did he? but it was a small fire, the building wasnt fully involved, and it may have been a practice or training move on the firefighters part
Sharpee2006 2 days ago
@rescuehero54 if this a fail how about you get up there and show how its done
burton64ful 4 days ago
look i found the hook. so we can pull thats shit out. oh u did that already. nevermind.lol
monroeFD543 1 week ago
The structure looks like a worthless dump. What about breaking a window or two and using PPV rather than risk injury. There's no rescue in progress thus no urgency to take risks. Each dept. should have a bull dozer respond on all structure fires. :)
kektrek 3 weeks ago 2
I wonder how many of the nitwits that rip on the job the firefighters are doing have actually put on gear and fought a fire? Get your ass into a real working fire and then see if you can do the job better.
Rangerbelt 3 weeks ago 2
@Rangerbelt that is very true let em rip im gonna do my job and do it to the best of my ability most of them flunked out of some academy or out of firefighting those temperatures in those houses get so hot that in the dead of winter you walk out and your underwear is soaked completely in sweat let em rip im enjoying myself everyday on the job
Redneckmudder336 2 weeks ago
there is really nothin wrong with this, they didnt know they would run in to that problem
rsizemore12 3 weeks ago
i think he did fine wtf is wrong with everyone and being perfect the best tool u got is ur hands i would have done the same thing if i forgot my pike or rubish hook
GhostRecon511 3 weeks ago
Ok guys, lets stop running our mouths, because every firefighter know's he or she has forgotten to bring the proper tool when getting off the truck at least once in their career. This Vent job is not as bad as everyone is saying. Yes they were doing it in an unsafe fashion, but they still got the hole cut.
MrCrazyfirefighter 3 weeks ago
@MrCrazyfirefighter However, it is not just that you reach your goal of "getting a hole" or "getting the fire out". The manner, efficiency and safety all matter, a lot.
Training, discipline and good command should overcome this kind of screw ups. And why they were on that roof? Was there a rescue going on? Were there firefighters inside? Did that affect the outcome of the firefighting effort?
pomppa85 2 weeks ago
@pomppa85 Yes training, discipline and good command structure, can At times prevent these types of miscues. But as we all know, orders on the fireground don't always go the way we plan for, train for, or even how command wants it done. I just dont like for videos like this to get so much negative feedback, this should be used for training only.
And yes safety it number 1 on the priority list, but these mistakes are also good, so you can learn from them later
MrCrazyfirefighter 2 weeks ago
@MrCrazyfirefighter Yes, I agree, these are current training material. What I am still saying that I feel that these kinds of mistakes and continuing overlooks aren't addressed as they should be.
pomppa85 2 weeks ago
"Hey do u think I could get a longer pole up here? This one isnt quite doing the trick..."
jneff2006 4 weeks ago
12 foot pike pole was all the guys standing there watching could give them?
01superduty89 1 month ago
@Hobbitchoker. You tell them. I'm a volunteer firefighter with a department that a average of 500 calls a year with a total of 9 people. Lets see a paid department do that. Again I think you for caring
pfpdlt 1 month ago
Aside from the whole using his hands thing, the fundamentals are all off.... It's called "Peaked roof ventilation" for a reason, meaning, oh I dunno, cut at the peak of the roof, not the middle. Also, once you've mastered cutting in the right place, try cutting in the right sequence, your last cut should be the closest one to you so your not right over top the hole...
kvfd50 1 month ago
ahhh the ol' 12 foot hook trick.
KC2SGI 1 month ago 2
Roof work is not easy especially on wet and slippery nights. Nothing is perfect.
blinko656 1 month ago
@blinko656 That is true, but there is no excuse for this. The back-up man ALWAYS brings a tool. That's firefighting 101, not just roof work. If the back-up guy has nothing with him, what good is he? (except extra weight on a burning structure). The tool not only is vital in knocking through the cut hole and down through the ceiling boards, but is also useful, if used properly, to act as a safety railing for the member making the cut.
RonaldReagan7 1 month ago
@RonaldReagan7 I understand. Im retired now but when we trained we were suppose to get water on initial attack in 45 seconds. I watch videos today and man are these guys slow not everybody but many. While training I fell once on a 2 1/2 gated wye and injured myself bigtime. Three herinaed discs I babied for years..
blinko656 1 month ago
What do you mean by "FRX" will be in all fire departments in 2013?
ttjd1 1 month ago
ok buddy when u say most, you mean around you... FRX witch is a non profit company will be in all fire departments by 2013. they will theach u how to do it the best and safest way possible. and next time please dont hate on fire fighters.. we do more then expected every day of the year... Thanks, Station 11 piney green 1151.
Stonermcpot 1 month ago
@ffsc1977 Come out with our department and see if we vent! Have you ever been on a rural fire? Have you ever vented a house trailer or double wide? You talk like Volunteers are all a bunch of idiots! We train all the time for venting and we do it regularly! Most of the firefighters in the USA are volunteer! We take the same risks with NO pay and in most cases WAY less manpower and equipment! Idiot!
mlynch001 2 months ago
Are there really people saying they don't see where the fail is on this? I do commend them for going up there being alot of folks won't. However, you need a hook and definitely a pickhead axe up there to do it safe and properly. I sure wouldn't want that 30 foot pole.
BDinksmain 2 months ago
shit video. says nothing. what and who failed?!
MrDriftspirit 2 months ago
@MrDriftspirit I think its because he's using his hands to magicly punch through the ceiling below and not a tool.
xx6pure6evil6xx 2 months ago
@MrDriftspirit maybe you would understand if you were a firefighter
reppinsp 1 month ago
I dont get it. what was the fail? Arent you supposed to vent?
TheWaynelds 2 months ago
At least they got up and cut. That's more than most volunteer departments do!
ffscc1977 2 months ago
@ffscc1977 3/4 of America is Volunteer. Unless you have seen every station, or if your even a firefighter, do not insult any part of The Brotherhood. We throw our PPE on the same, we breath the same, and we have a passion for what we do,
Hobbitchoker 2 months ago
Maybe he was angry at his hands that day. Decided "Hands, I'll show you, I'll stick you into this here fire and see how you like it"........
sharppointy1 9 months ago 17
They should've vented at the highest point. (the peak) Heat and smoke rises which means that heat and smoke will the greatest at the peak. The man backing him up should have had a hook and pickhead axe with him and the guy doing the cutting could have easily cut his own foot off. ALSO it almost looks like the bulk of the fire was already knocked down so maybe the cut wasnt really necessary but thats a judgment call. Its easy to be an armchair QB.
fire178man 1 year ago 12
@fire178man you cut where the mass of heat and smoke is built up dipshit, do you have any knowlage about it at all? its the c/o's call and with that little fire its venting the excess smoke
chompmyd1ck 2 weeks ago
@chompmyd1ck Like I said, heat and smoke rises so where do you think it will be greatest? I'm going to use my SIXTEEN years in one of the nation's busiest Ladder companies to say that the bulk of the heat and fire would be at the peak. Before you comment, make sure you know what YOU are talking about. Like I said, making that cut was a judgement call. I've been on more roofs than YOU can count and that wasn't much of a fire. You wouldnt last a week in a REAL department.
fire178man 2 weeks ago