What ChosonNinja never answered here is this. If the people of Kudara brought Ninjutsu to Japan in the beginning, why then would they require learning it from Sayaga who was Japanese? This makes absolutely no sense. If they already had Ninjutsu before Japan, they would have had no need to re-learn in from this fictional Sayaga person!
During the Tang Dynasty, wasn't most of Korea under Chinese rule anyway? Aside from his cultural claims, the moves he teaches are also pretty fishy. I watched his video about Korean vs. Japanese kicks. He kept emphasizing that Koreans don't chamber their legs, but any TKD practitioner will tell you that chambering is essential to proper form. And then I watched his watch?v=562lwWU6N5Y. In real life, people would break their arms trying to block a round kick with a single inside parry.
im always amused by these videos. i dont personally do ninjitsu or ninpo, or any such stuff. but its always interesting to watch the goings on here on youtube. I would tend to agree with you that anything that did come out of korea first came out of china, since thats how the trade routes went. but its funny to watch choson do what choson does, and dean well dean is the same guy I known for the last 7yrs on and off. I think you are closer to the truth then most. at more so then choson is. haha
You don't even need documentation to disprove greg park, just look at his so-called skill. He has no real training. He's a self video-trained wannabe.
Thank you very much !!!!! Also data of any historical event is very very elusive. I personally don't like to argue about any event that took place when I was a kid and not to mention what happened 600 years ago. That kind of events are something that we read about or see on TV. And those are the boundaries of every interlocutor of this "history" duel. I would be much happier if all fighting and verbal conflicts about these matters would stop.
The did... If you were alittle more of a real Ninja and did your research & intelligence gathering correctly..you would know my story has still not changed. Sayaga Ninja clan came during the Imjin war and assisted Korea and that is my lineage according to my teahcer.
Have I said anything different? I even show Japan's historical views on it. Did you conveniently miss those too?
also...its also not my fault that Ninjutsu entered into Japan by kudara koreans in the beginning now is it? This is for the IGNORANT who claims that Korea had no Kanja and that I lie which i inform others the truth.
Try making things up to distort this & these claims and call me a liar. Get some help from your unorganized friends too. Maybe they can make cartoons for you so you understand them. ;P
Here you state they were from Japan. But you keep on insisting they came from Korea to Japan! What is the deal?? Come on, provide more proof from your video game websites.
You still haven't answered my question: Why did you claim Ninja came from Japan to Korea but then later on, you claimed that Ninja came from Korea to Japan?
"Ninjas were sent to assist in the Imjin war. When the battle was over, however, Tokugawa abandoned these ninjas in Korea. That is how my ancestors learned Ninjutsu."
Chosonninja:
"Ninjas originated in Korea and spread to Japan!!"
I see now your have been educated. And keep it this way without any twisting of it. OK? Sayaga was considered a traitor and he surely would have not gone back to Japan. And as for the Kudara people starting the Ninjutsu...You can deny it all you want but the truth is always there.
Thank you for getting the facts straight and have a nice day!
That makes More since but the Koreans Had noting more than spicel forese I thinking that is wear the Salsa came from they Where not Ninjas come to think about it. Chinese would be More right than the Koreans.
i used to enjoy having intelligent conversations with mature people who didn't resort to childish name calling and i even thought they knew how to spell better than me. But I guess I under estimated their intelligence and capacity as they claim its a dance or dip sauce. How elegant and graceful of their intelligence. lol
How disappointing to see their true colors now. Its heartbreaking to see them go bad like this or to reveal their true light. But fill your boots and be yourself.
oh then, my bad. by the way, are gikan ryu, kumogakure ryu, and gyokushin ryu publicly taught in the bujinkan? cuz i don't see them much. i went to akban website and i only saw 6 ryu, excluding the ones mentioned above. Oh and thanks for watching.
nope they're not taught openly and when they are taught openly 99% of the bujinkan won't realize it. i know about some kumogakure ryu and some gyokushin ryu but its a very very very very small bit
What ChosonNinja never answered here is this. If the people of Kudara brought Ninjutsu to Japan in the beginning, why then would they require learning it from Sayaga who was Japanese? This makes absolutely no sense. If they already had Ninjutsu before Japan, they would have had no need to re-learn in from this fictional Sayaga person!
ExposeChosunNinja 1 year ago
During the Tang Dynasty, wasn't most of Korea under Chinese rule anyway? Aside from his cultural claims, the moves he teaches are also pretty fishy. I watched his video about Korean vs. Japanese kicks. He kept emphasizing that Koreans don't chamber their legs, but any TKD practitioner will tell you that chambering is essential to proper form. And then I watched his watch?v=562lwWU6N5Y. In real life, people would break their arms trying to block a round kick with a single inside parry.
jeffdoeskungfu 1 year ago
im always amused by these videos. i dont personally do ninjitsu or ninpo, or any such stuff. but its always interesting to watch the goings on here on youtube. I would tend to agree with you that anything that did come out of korea first came out of china, since thats how the trade routes went. but its funny to watch choson do what choson does, and dean well dean is the same guy I known for the last 7yrs on and off. I think you are closer to the truth then most. at more so then choson is. haha
wayoftheforesthand 2 years ago
Thanks. Glad to know there are many people that know the TRUTH rather than being persistent on obvious false historical claims.
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
You don't even need documentation to disprove greg park, just look at his so-called skill. He has no real training. He's a self video-trained wannabe.
Koryuhoka 1 year ago 2
Thank you very much !!!!! Also data of any historical event is very very elusive. I personally don't like to argue about any event that took place when I was a kid and not to mention what happened 600 years ago. That kind of events are something that we read about or see on TV. And those are the boundaries of every interlocutor of this "history" duel. I would be much happier if all fighting and verbal conflicts about these matters would stop.
Boby985 2 years ago
You're welcome. As much as we like to end the fight, Choson's lies just keep popping up. We're just like police ya' know? ^-^
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
What is the name of the song ?
Boby985 2 years ago
watch?v=wo4-mmiNoKA
Murasaki no Yukari, futatabi
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
1. Paekje kingdom were "NOT" Chinese and Koreans?
2. Kudara was "NOT" ancient Korea?
3. Baekje did "NOT" introduce the Chinese language to Japan?
Get a clue and do some research if you think your so smart. OK?
ChosonNinja 2 years ago
Like the video says, you claimed that Ninja were sent to Korea from Japan. THEN, you claimed they came from Korea!
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
The did... If you were alittle more of a real Ninja and did your research & intelligence gathering correctly..you would know my story has still not changed. Sayaga Ninja clan came during the Imjin war and assisted Korea and that is my lineage according to my teahcer.
Have I said anything different? I even show Japan's historical views on it. Did you conveniently miss those too?
ChosonNinja 2 years ago
also...its also not my fault that Ninjutsu entered into Japan by kudara koreans in the beginning now is it? This is for the IGNORANT who claims that Korea had no Kanja and that I lie which i inform others the truth.
Try making things up to distort this & these claims and call me a liar. Get some help from your unorganized friends too. Maybe they can make cartoons for you so you understand them. ;P
ChosonNinja 2 years ago
Here you state they were from Japan. But you keep on insisting they came from Korea to Japan! What is the deal?? Come on, provide more proof from your video game websites.
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
I try to remember that IGA RYU NINJA MUSEUM is a game website(?)
Your insults are starting to reflect your intelligence. How grand they are. lol
Thank you for this diclosing this with us.
ChosonNinja 2 years ago
Have you seen Buffon's video? Iga mentioned nothing about Korea.
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
HE LIES ALL THE TIME ...AND SO WHAT?
HAVE YOU SEEN IT YOURSELF?
Would you like a website to prove he is telling the truth? I would be happy to vindicate him and show you how honest he is.
ChosonNinja 2 years ago
HYPOCRISY AT IT'S FINEST.
You still haven't answered my question: Why did you claim Ninja came from Japan to Korea but then later on, you claimed that Ninja came from Korea to Japan?
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
Ignorance at its finest! What part of Sayaga clan came during the Imjin war do you not understand?
And is Kudara people bring Buddhism and also Ninjutsu to Japan first not clear to you that its a separate argument?
Keep twisting the words oh great and wise one. Intelligent people know the difference.
ChosonNinja 2 years ago
Chosonninja:
"Ninjas were sent to assist in the Imjin war. When the battle was over, however, Tokugawa abandoned these ninjas in Korea. That is how my ancestors learned Ninjutsu."
Chosonninja:
"Ninjas originated in Korea and spread to Japan!!"
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
I see now your have been educated. And keep it this way without any twisting of it. OK? Sayaga was considered a traitor and he surely would have not gone back to Japan. And as for the Kudara people starting the Ninjutsu...You can deny it all you want but the truth is always there.
Thank you for getting the facts straight and have a nice day!
ChosonNinja 2 years ago
Thank you.
*bow*
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
That makes More since but the Koreans Had noting more than spicel forese I thinking that is wear the Salsa came from they Where not Ninjas come to think about it. Chinese would be More right than the Koreans.
SuburbanNinja8000 2 years ago
Did the Koreans invent Salsa too? From what I know, Salsa (dance and dipping sauce) is from South America.
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
Then again it could be a lie, no one Knows what were those Ninja like people in Korean was or what they were called.
SuburbanNinja8000 2 years ago
i used to enjoy having intelligent conversations with mature people who didn't resort to childish name calling and i even thought they knew how to spell better than me. But I guess I under estimated their intelligence and capacity as they claim its a dance or dip sauce. How elegant and graceful of their intelligence. lol
How disappointing to see their true colors now. Its heartbreaking to see them go bad like this or to reveal their true light. But fill your boots and be yourself.
ChosonNinja 2 years ago
Isn't Salsa a dance and a dipping sauce? Don't you mean the mythical Sulsa?
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
gyokko ryu actually is a ninjutsu ryu, kinda. there are many gyokko ryu scrolls and one is gyokko ryu ninpo
scottbaioisdead 2 years ago
oh then, my bad. by the way, are gikan ryu, kumogakure ryu, and gyokushin ryu publicly taught in the bujinkan? cuz i don't see them much. i went to akban website and i only saw 6 ryu, excluding the ones mentioned above. Oh and thanks for watching.
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago
nope they're not taught openly and when they are taught openly 99% of the bujinkan won't realize it. i know about some kumogakure ryu and some gyokushin ryu but its a very very very very small bit
scottbaioisdead 2 years ago
i see. do you know why these schools are not openly taught? i've heard from Soke that gikan ryu waza have no names.
MyoushinRyuNinjutsu 2 years ago