@AstroChickenII but the kfir is based on french mirage, Levi is full manufactored by israel, and the reason US started funding they udnerrestimated israel's levi and they dident thought it would be competive for the F16
Israel possessed neither the technology nor the capital required to pull of such a project at its own. US contractors built approximately 40 percent of the aircraft, and the prosject as a whole was largely based on US funding and technology transfer. The cost became increasly prohibitive for the relative small IAF order and it required extraordinary concessions, such as permission to market the plane to third countries in direct competition with U.S.-built fighters. In the end it killed it.
@davidds0 the "Lavi" was more than competitive to the F-16, it was superior to it by:
it could carry heavier bombs, it could make sharper turns, it was more advanced technologically and it was cheaper to manufacture.
these were the reasons why the US canceled its funding and made Israel sign on an agreement that it will not produce any more jet fighters while they will be given from the US in exchange for Israeli technology.
@davidds0 actually the euro-fighter is based on the Israeli "Lavi" that was developed in the 80's and was sold to china that changed its name to "J-10" and continue its developement.
@djomercohen how do you know eurofighter is based on the lavi? can you show me the source of info? i hope it is cus it proves how good the lavi could have been, but i never heard about it. i did heard that israel sold the blueprints to china that used this as a base for their J-10 program
@davidds0 the lavi has a very similar structure and cockpit to the eurofighter, it is annoying that the people who made this aircraft stole it from the first original Israeli aircraft.
@davidds0 they always copy, bear in mind that large aircraft makers, and large projects lack innovation, they just employ 100,000 engineers and designers where no one is allowed to innovate, and no one has a good full picture, if a small Israeli firm makes a weapon /aircraft, it employs very few, trusted designers that have full view of the project, and they can innovate. Inventiveness is a one man thing.
ummm, also but it is more like the Israeli "Lavi" that was developed as an alternative to the F-16 back in the 80's and ended up being superior to it by:
it could carry heavier bombs, it could make sharper turns, it was more advanced technologically and it was cheaper to manufacture.
these were the reasons why the US canceled its funding and made Israel sign on an agreement that it will not produce any more jet fighters while they will be given from the US in exchange for Israeli technology.
The Kfir is basicly a ground attack version of the frensh Mirage III figter. The IAF used the Mirage III, and wanted a simplified attack version and was working with Dassault on the project. Then the good relations between France and Israel finished, and supposedly the information needed to build the plane was stolen by an engineer that gave it to Israel. The Kfir was then built in Israel powered by an American engine.
@fitte6 The front wings are a huge innovation, and now seems that Dassualt's Rafael and Eurofighter have stollen the idea from the Kfir, the Jews may steal an idea bit they will also improvise it, and besides, Dassault itself was founded by a Jewish aircraft inventor, famous for his propeller ideas.
The notion of the "tail first" or "canard" aircraft goes back to the dawn of flight (The Wright Flyer was a canard biplane), A number of prototypes of canard combat aircraft were built during WW2 by a number of combatants. Saab Viggen was the first operational fighter aircraft with a canard configuration: a conventional delta wing with small, high-set front wings. Construction started in 1964 with first operational squadron delivered in 1972.
The only good plane Israel ever produced.
AstroChickenII 1 year ago
@AstroChickenII i think levi was way more advanced and better, problem is lack of budget to finish that project
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0 yup. It was stupid of IAI to think the USA would fund a rival to the F-16. Because the Lavi never went into production, the Kfir is better.
AstroChickenII 1 year ago
@AstroChickenII but the kfir is based on french mirage, Levi is full manufactored by israel, and the reason US started funding they udnerrestimated israel's levi and they dident thought it would be competive for the F16
davidds0 1 year ago
Israel possessed neither the technology nor the capital required to pull of such a project at its own. US contractors built approximately 40 percent of the aircraft, and the prosject as a whole was largely based on US funding and technology transfer. The cost became increasly prohibitive for the relative small IAF order and it required extraordinary concessions, such as permission to market the plane to third countries in direct competition with U.S.-built fighters. In the end it killed it.
fitte6 1 year ago
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@fitte6 from what source you know this?
davidds0 1 year ago
@davidds0 the "Lavi" was more than competitive to the F-16, it was superior to it by:
it could carry heavier bombs, it could make sharper turns, it was more advanced technologically and it was cheaper to manufacture.
these were the reasons why the US canceled its funding and made Israel sign on an agreement that it will not produce any more jet fighters while they will be given from the US in exchange for Israeli technology.
djomercohen 4 months ago
@davidds0 actually the euro-fighter is based on the Israeli "Lavi" that was developed in the 80's and was sold to china that changed its name to "J-10" and continue its developement.
djomercohen 4 months ago
@djomercohen how do you know eurofighter is based on the lavi? can you show me the source of info? i hope it is cus it proves how good the lavi could have been, but i never heard about it. i did heard that israel sold the blueprints to china that used this as a base for their J-10 program
davidds0 4 months ago
@davidds0 the lavi has a very similar structure and cockpit to the eurofighter, it is annoying that the people who made this aircraft stole it from the first original Israeli aircraft.
djomercohen 3 months ago
@davidds0 they always copy, bear in mind that large aircraft makers, and large projects lack innovation, they just employ 100,000 engineers and designers where no one is allowed to innovate, and no one has a good full picture, if a small Israeli firm makes a weapon /aircraft, it employs very few, trusted designers that have full view of the project, and they can innovate. Inventiveness is a one man thing.
VERGIS92 3 months ago
@VERGIS92 theres no price for creativity :)
davidds0 3 months ago
@AstroChickenII It looks like Eurofighter is based on Kfir, doesn't it? which confirms that Israeli designers were farsighted at the time.
VERGIS92 1 year ago
ummm, also but it is more like the Israeli "Lavi" that was developed as an alternative to the F-16 back in the 80's and ended up being superior to it by:
it could carry heavier bombs, it could make sharper turns, it was more advanced technologically and it was cheaper to manufacture.
these were the reasons why the US canceled its funding and made Israel sign on an agreement that it will not produce any more jet fighters while they will be given from the US in exchange for Israeli technology.
djomercohen 3 months ago
ok so... ...is this a french plane or a israeli plane?
diviengi 2 years ago
@diviengi
The Kfir is basicly a ground attack version of the frensh Mirage III figter. The IAF used the Mirage III, and wanted a simplified attack version and was working with Dassault on the project. Then the good relations between France and Israel finished, and supposedly the information needed to build the plane was stolen by an engineer that gave it to Israel. The Kfir was then built in Israel powered by an American engine.
fitte6 1 year ago
@fitte6 The front wings are a huge innovation, and now seems that Dassualt's Rafael and Eurofighter have stollen the idea from the Kfir, the Jews may steal an idea bit they will also improvise it, and besides, Dassault itself was founded by a Jewish aircraft inventor, famous for his propeller ideas.
VERGIS92 1 year ago
@VERGIS92
The notion of the "tail first" or "canard" aircraft goes back to the dawn of flight (The Wright Flyer was a canard biplane), A number of prototypes of canard combat aircraft were built during WW2 by a number of combatants. Saab Viggen was the first operational fighter aircraft with a canard configuration: a conventional delta wing with small, high-set front wings. Construction started in 1964 with first operational squadron delivered in 1972.
fitte6 1 year ago
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ChorniyKot 1 year ago
@diviengi this plane is israeli !
ChorniyKot 1 year ago
@diviengi its israeli invantion
DamForYou 1 year ago
Airplanes are just airplanes. It doesn't matter what countries they come from. Hell, I'd fly all of them as long as they're well built.
moahoah 1 year ago
israelin ja suomen ilmavoimat ovat maailuman parhaita hävittäjälentäjät ovat huippu luokkaa
mrmakemakkara 2 years ago
Amazing I hope you have more video about the Israeli Air Force
sufa256 3 years ago