The old name for this kata is chinto but this chinto is the way the village of tomari did this kata The other chinto is from the village shuri on okinawa both are chinto.
Kancho Kanazawa was going through this kata step by step tonight for the brown/black belt seminar here in Ireland.
Seems like the black belts knew it. But the brown belts were very lost! :D
It is at the end of his "26 Complete Shotokan Kata" book.
I just looked up old style Chinto and it was fascinating. Not that I can voice a preference. Being shown by Kancho on before his retirement from travels is an honour. I wish I had the brains to absorb everything he shows T_T
in Kanazawa Sensei's kata book, he mentioned that this is a very old version of the kata. The embusen is a diagonal line as opposed to the straight line in the Shotokan gankaku kata. It also opens like an Okinawan karate kata which would make sense if it was an ancient and rarely practiced kata. The JKA does not perform this form. I learned it because I think there are some techniques that you do not see in the 16 or 26 sanctioned katas in the Shotokan systems except for Kanazawa's group.
In these two shikodachi sections, do you move 1st one Kiba-shiko-kiba and second one shiko-heiko-shiko? I could not see it very clearly.I like your timing. Similar to Yuba sensei's video.
In these two shikodachi sections, do you move 1st one Kiba-shiko-kiba and second one shiko-heiko-shiko? I could not see it very clearly.I like your timing. Simlilar to Yuba sensei's video.
I've only seen a couple of other performances of this kata but this one has to be the best, the rythm & timing look good & the moves sharp - good technique. Would be great if this karate-ka would come to my dojo & teach us the kata in more detail. Well done, great video!! :-)
i read (in redmond) that kanazawa took the other kata known as chinto - the one that is not clearly related to gankaku; there were two in okinawan systems - and began teaching it as gankaku sho. since shotokan nicked gankaku that way, it seems perfectly reasonable.
Kanazawa Sensei has written a new book called "The Complete Kata" ISBN: 4770030908. He mentions that this is a very old kata from Okinawa and is merely a variation of the kata Chinto (now called Gankaku by some associations). He shows the complete movements for this kata at the end of the book. Hope this helps? :-)
Oss my friend, I was not complaining and thank you for replying so quick. I dopn't know who this performer is but he looks very good. I am still trying to learn the kata. It looks like it belongs to Goju Ryu but no one at my Goju Ryu club has heard of it. I hope I can do it as good as this one day :-) Best Wishes.
@tltozer This version is based on Tomari (Kyan) no Chinto. Gankaku is Itosu (Shuri-Te) no Chinto. Look up "old style chinto" to see the original version.
26 STANDARD katas in shotokan - many more exist just never made it on the list (like gospels I suppose) - Some katas have sister katas others are in a series of katas - For example Unsu is in a series based on the elements (cloud hands, water hands, etc type in suishu) Of course many are lost or renamed or created (junro or joko series promoted in the JKS)
Não gostei da musica
mais gostei do video XD
AndersonDiasxD 5 months ago
The old name for this kata is chinto but this chinto is the way the village of tomari did this kata The other chinto is from the village shuri on okinawa both are chinto.
well done
ryukuykenpo74 1 year ago
Ous,I think you have posted a brilliant footage the closest to Kancho Kanazawa timing on youtube.
SKIFTIGER 1 year ago
Absolutely brilliant. Thanks for sharing, youhave helped my learnng of this kata.
LollingForLife 1 year ago
Thanks! Realy
dogishin 1 year ago
Kancho Kanazawa was going through this kata step by step tonight for the brown/black belt seminar here in Ireland.
Seems like the black belts knew it. But the brown belts were very lost! :D
It is at the end of his "26 Complete Shotokan Kata" book.
I just looked up old style Chinto and it was fascinating. Not that I can voice a preference. Being shown by Kancho on before his retirement from travels is an honour. I wish I had the brains to absorb everything he shows T_T
Goodnight. Rest & Ossu
DragonboyVNY 1 year ago
This is very interesting...I have been training for 24 years in Shotokan and I have never seen this.
I have trained many times with both Kanazawa and his son Nobuaki.
Also...my Shihan was a student of Funakoshi and was Sempai to Kanazawa.
Karate is so beautiful...there is so much to learn and so little time! LOL
Osu...
countrysamurai 1 year ago
in Kanazawa Sensei's kata book, he mentioned that this is a very old version of the kata. The embusen is a diagonal line as opposed to the straight line in the Shotokan gankaku kata. It also opens like an Okinawan karate kata which would make sense if it was an ancient and rarely practiced kata. The JKA does not perform this form. I learned it because I think there are some techniques that you do not see in the 16 or 26 sanctioned katas in the Shotokan systems except for Kanazawa's group.
bludtruck 1 year ago
WTF was he doing all that looking around for, in the beginning?!?
shinigami285 1 year ago
Thaks, and good luck! Oss!
dogishin 1 year ago
Thanks! I also found a book by Kancho so I could check all the small details now! Thank you kindly for your reply! Oss.
sopranonatsuko 1 year ago
In these two shikodachi sections, do you move 1st one Kiba-shiko-kiba and second one shiko-heiko-shiko? I could not see it very clearly.I like your timing. Similar to Yuba sensei's video.
sopranonatsuko 1 year ago
In these two shikodachi sections, do you move 1st one Kiba-shiko-kiba and second one shiko-heiko-shiko? I could not see it very clearly.I like your timing. Simlilar to Yuba sensei's video.
sopranonatsuko 1 year ago
Kiba dachi-chiko dachi- kiba dachi! Thanks!
dogishin 1 year ago
It sounds as though Meat Loaf might burst into the video at the start!!
IrishMystique 1 year ago
No, this kata is SKIF (Shotokan Kanazawa stile).
dogishin 1 year ago 3
I like it but it doesn't seems shotokai
Goldvellius 1 year ago
I've only seen a couple of other performances of this kata but this one has to be the best, the rythm & timing look good & the moves sharp - good technique. Would be great if this karate-ka would come to my dojo & teach us the kata in more detail. Well done, great video!! :-)
tltozer 1 year ago
если можно пришлите пожалуйста схему движений "ганкаку шо"б или положите на этой страничке. с уважением наталия
raqviashvili 2 years ago
This is a new one made by Kanazawa sensei.
blugublu 2 years ago
i read (in redmond) that kanazawa took the other kata known as chinto - the one that is not clearly related to gankaku; there were two in okinawan systems - and began teaching it as gankaku sho. since shotokan nicked gankaku that way, it seems perfectly reasonable.
nmrboy 2 years ago
Kanazawa Sensei has written a new book called "The Complete Kata" ISBN: 4770030908. He mentions that this is a very old kata from Okinawa and is merely a variation of the kata Chinto (now called Gankaku by some associations). He shows the complete movements for this kata at the end of the book. Hope this helps? :-)
tltozer 1 year ago
@tltozer
I believe you. I just said what I had read on another site. But since you took it from his book, you must be right.
blugublu 1 year ago
Oss my friend, I was not complaining and thank you for replying so quick. I dopn't know who this performer is but he looks very good. I am still trying to learn the kata. It looks like it belongs to Goju Ryu but no one at my Goju Ryu club has heard of it. I hope I can do it as good as this one day :-) Best Wishes.
tltozer 1 year ago
@tltozer This version is based on Tomari (Kyan) no Chinto. Gankaku is Itosu (Shuri-Te) no Chinto. Look up "old style chinto" to see the original version.
babydru 1 year ago
19 katas in shotokai, 26 in shotokan and this is not one of them. Did you make it up yourself or is it from another style? Thanks!
N2shotokai 2 years ago
26 STANDARD katas in shotokan - many more exist just never made it on the list (like gospels I suppose) - Some katas have sister katas others are in a series of katas - For example Unsu is in a series based on the elements (cloud hands, water hands, etc type in suishu) Of course many are lost or renamed or created (junro or joko series promoted in the JKS)
Hope this helps- Good training
WestBfella 2 years ago
Never heard of it.
N2shotokai 2 years ago
I´m sorry, is not my problem.
dogishin 2 years ago
Gankaku sho (SKIF)
dogishin 2 years ago
GankakuSochinGojushihosho?
N2shotokai 2 years ago