The Treatment of Tardive Dyskinesia with ... MORE Drugs!

[MegaSpreadtheword]

Please, please get your thyroid checked, and make sure you ask your doctor to check for antibodies when he is doing this. If you have a thyroid isoder this could have caused the phycosis, which is easily treated with thyroid hormone replacement. The drugs you have tried to treat TD are a class of sedative which can make a thyroid disorder worse, and explains why you got so sleepy after the medication.

[FMVhero]

The meanings of the words--that you're pointing out by highlighting them with quotes--in this context seems to be entirely subjective, consistent research has been conducted by people a lot smarter than you or I that says otherwise. Aside from being irritating, the overuse of quotes only implies that you don't truly understand what is going on here.

People should be properly educated when taking drugs, just as we all should properly educate ourselves to form objective opinions on these matters.

[Laurenyoutoo]

I am free after hospitalization, earned my GED, and am in college. I live with ADD, a side effect of Perphenazine. I am much different drug free. With the drugs, I would not be able to live my life.

[Laurenyoutoo]

Drugs such as Perphenazine should have been taken off the market long ago! I got involuntary permanent facial movements each time the drug was forced on me. Each time it happened, the twitch got worse. Now, I face social difficulties that ruin my life because people misinterpret my facial movements.

[Laurenyoutoo]

Many teenagers, young people, and adults are forced drugs such as Perphenazine due to circumstances that led them to hospitalization. Many of these people were not dangerous or doing anything to deserve involuntary facial movements for life, a known side effect of many popularly prescribed psychiatric drugs. 

[Nabbles60]

This is lawyered video (made by lawyer). Insurance checked cured this person. Congratulations!

[duggannify]

@Nabbles60 hi are there lots of lawsuits involved with TD caused by Gedon?

[bluevamps66]

I'll tell you this about a yr n a half ago my 14yr old son developed TD while taking Abilify for less then 6 months! I'm the one who pulled him off the meds and had to point out the TD. After nearly a year it went away. He is now on ZYPREXA and guess what it's back only more so

[jmsneptuneonfire]

My life has been changed for the better with anti-psychotic medication. I've been diagnosed bipolar with psychotic mania and have been on different drugs for 10 years so far. I'm a wife and mother and I would never consider being without medication. I'm able to care for my children and keep our home, when without meds I cannot care even for myself. I think genuine reasons for medication exist. I'm willing to take these risks for my children.

[Crystalballer274]

@jmsneptuneonfire Lol I hope it works out for you lady. Most people only seem to take these drugs for a few years and get these problems. Alot of people take the drugs and then decide they don't need them anymore, but you have been on them for 10 years??? All I can say is wow. And different drugs at that? Boy I wander what is going on in that head of yours right now. Probably all kinds of screwy. I'll see ya posting in a few years when you come down a disorder. It happens in most cases.

[duggannify]

F gedon this happened to me, im 26 life is over!!!! My symptoms are exactly like this!!!

[Tonymontanaooo]

@duggannify Just curious if it went away for you. I've been taking buproprion for only 2 days and my jaw seems like it wants to move and clench. Also my upper cheek muscles feel constantly tight. I know wellbutrin is considered a lesser drug, but anybody ever have any problems like this? The drug I'm taking is actually called Aplenzin and is just buproprion hydroBROMIDE instead of hydrochloride. I'm 27.

[duggannify]

@Tonymontanaooo hi, mine has not gone away, I do not take anything for it at this time as taking meds is what caused it. Im visiting with news doctors this year and will see what will come of it. Im 27 as well, does that medicine work for you?

[persontruthbeauty]

to alix. I have been diagnosed with tardive dyskinesia from taking 2mg of risperdal. I was just saying that zyprexa and clozapine have the lowest risk of tardive dyskinesia out of all the atypicals. Actually I have been prescribed zyprexa to help with the motor tics. I have taken cogentin and it does help with the movements but made me ill.

[Portis1Luv]

Btw, they are still experimenting on us.

[Portis1Luv]

These drugs, antipsychotics, will one day be remembered as a shame on Western civilization.

[MrXsession]

what's the safest pill which doesnt develop TD?

And what pill can prevent TD?

[persontruthbeauty]

Clozapine, Seroquel and Zyprexa carry little risk. Cogentin can be used to treat it.

[alix1962]

@persontruthbeauty You're both a fool and a liar. Those drugs do NOT carry "little risk", and Cogentin is used to relieve symptoms, NOT to "treat" it.

Thanks for spreading ignorance and Big Pharma lies.

[jacobbis4lovers]

@persontruthbeauty You're right. I am taking Cogentin because I have involuntary muscle contractions from when I was on Geodon. I stopped taking it a month ago and still have them. I just started Cogentin yesterday so hopefully it will get rid of the contractions. Luckily for me I stopped taking my medication before Tardive Dyskinesia occured.

[jacobbis4lovers]

@MrXsession There's a drug you can take that will prevent side effects from happening, but even that drug has side effects its self. I stopped taking my medication after I experienced involuntary muscle contractions(not movements) and I stopped them like, two months ago, and I still have them. It's not movements, just contractions.

[kamotepotatas]

the new drugs are better..don't blame the typical psychotic drugs..without them ....they cant produce atypical drugs...

[madbandicooot]

I developed Tardive dystonia after taking an atypical amisulpride on a relatively low dose for a few months, being told these newer drugs were 'much safer' Psychiatry is a pseudoscience!

[j777jsy]

@madbandicooot You are very unlucky to suffer from TD from an atypical like Amisulpiride and that too at a lower dose.I believe it is a rare side effects..and I don't think psychiatrist can predict who will have side effects and who won't. It's very unfortunate but I have to disagree that Psychiatry is pseudo science.. There are so many people who have benefited from it in many ways . We are more likely to report our problems than our benefits to the media.that's life and that's homo sapiens

[madbandicooot]

@j777jsy yes, I have been taking atypical antipsychotics for Years on and off since the age of 15, Though I admit some have helped -many have caused me alot of suffering, luckillyy my TD has mostly gone away now, still have some spasms in my eye muscles at times...

[pharmacopious]

Thank you laurenmsu! Finally someone who is talking rationally! colbyleigh is as ignorant as the majority of the population. Psychiatry and medicine are primitive but they are evolving steadily and drugs are slowly improving. This is indeed a tragic example of when things go wrong and highlights the importance of further basic medical research.

[pharmacopious]

But for crying out loud, do your OBJECTIVE research on both sides of the argument before you form your opinions about complex issues such as psychiatric disorders and don't fall into the deep trap of chronic ignorance and perpetual stupidity! I have worked in mental health and it is clear that antipsychotics benefit many, and these outweigh many of the risks associated with these drugs. Tardive's dyskinesia is rare with well-managed modern drug treatment.

[jide1000]

@pharmacopious thanks for that insightful comment td is much more common than the medical establishment will reveal add that to powerfulpharmaceutical interests and the nature of the beast becomes apparent.

[colbyleigh8162]

this poor woman! why give her more potentially dangerous drugs to treat the neurological disorder she got from taking the dangerous drugs in the first place?

hello! does that make sense to anyone?

why was she given Geodon in the first place?

[enors412]

i have this and I am faced everyday knowing it will only get worse. ANYTHING is better than nothing and I agree it's fucked up.

[laurenmsu]

While this woman's case is incredibly unfortunate, it is worth mentioning that this is not how most people react to antipsychotics like Geodon. Most people taking antipsychotics do not develop TD. I really hate it when people are incredibly against psychiatry based on incredibly biased information from the media. Read some empirical studies before forming such vehement opinions.

[ballofnine]

That being said, out of half a dozen psychiatrists I've witnessed in action, I haven't seen even one of them warn a patient about these sort of side effects before administration.

While one could argue that life-endangering issues would warrant administering antipsychotics without properly educating the patient, what's the argument for less acute cases?

It's a foregone conclusion to me that psychiatric patients receive different standards of care than those suffering non-psychiatric issues.

[M1thotyn]

Laurenmsu, to some degree or another, 20% of people taking a typical or atypical "anti-psychotic" will develop TD within 4 years, and it goes up 5% every year. That's far from rare and actually suggest that a MAJORITY of people taking neuroleptics will develop this one of many neurological diseases that are a product of irreversible brain damage.

[M1thotyn]

laurenmsu, the incident rate is 5% of patients per year with an additional 5% risk with every year E.G. after 4 years a person taking a neuroleptic will have a 20% chance of developing TD. This is the same with the newer ones since the disease itself is caused by the same brain damage that occurs in all neuroleptics that decrease dopamine in the brain. Decreasing dopamine and calling it medicine is like saying that parkinsons disease could be theuropetic.

[Antiks72]

TD can be permanent if you don't catch it soon enough. Luckily it wasn't in me. I was on Geodon and developed it within 3 years.  It really sucked and I'm glad I'm off that shit. No more APs for me.

[enors412]

go fuck yourself. If you knew the horror of these drugs first hand you wouldn't be talking like that. You technically can't even apply empathy because you don't know how bad they feel.

[edge2420]

Yea Onedolla, it sounds like you really did your homework on antipyschotics and how mental illness portrays itself. The vast majority of schizophenics are very docile and not out to kill people, not raving insane as you put it. Your shallow insight and gross discharacterization of a person shows how simple you really are; go crawl under a rock you idiot.

[Onedolla50cent]

Drugs to treat brain damage? But what was most important? The psychosis or the brain? Was the persons psychosis interrupting life for them or others and was the brain being put to much use anyway? For all we know she was inches away from killing somebody she thought was stealing her secret plan to rule the world via telepathic powers and has a 80 point IQ. NEXT!

[yoism]

You seem to be a believer that these brain damaging drugs are NECESSARY to treat intractable mental "diseases." If that were so, such "treatment" might be defensible. But what if it isn't true? What if most people would recover w/o such treatment & what if most of those who are treated with these drugs are destroyed by the "treatment." The evidence (i.e., not MY opinion) that the latter view is in fact the case, is presented in the links in the description (see "more info") of this video.

[Audreybette]

Hi. I have tardive dyskenisia from taking geodon also. I am receiving for it is a titrating down of geodon and botox. When my botox is active things aren't horrible, but it lasts only two months. I hear artane is dangerous to take, but I am curious to know if your know of any other options. Have you found a support group online? Are you in the N.Y.C area? If so, do you have a good movement disorder specialist? Looking forward to hear from you.

[torturedbydrugs]

I got drugged with antipsychotics for saying I had given CPR to a baby. They also said I was delusional because I said I wanted to become a doctor. Anything the psychiatrist does not agree with is called a delusion. The person who discovered the use of electromagnetic waves was committed, he was an inventor. Shrinks think everyone who come to them is a murderer. They gave me tardive dyskinesia eye blinking blindness for the normal things I said. My dose was lowered and it is gone.

[ey3hack]

@Onedolla50cent

thats not a psychosis , pscho

[theedrstrangelove]

@Onedolla50cent : do you suffer from this disease? if not shut up and get on with your perfect life. i do not suffer with a psychotic illness, however was prescribed drugs that cause this problem. i went from owning and operating a small business with about 700k a year in revenue. now i live in a garage eat one meal a day and can't even get hired at a fast food joint because of my odd movement disorder. so fuck off and die. i hope you get head cancer and have to eat out of dumpsters like i do.

[FMVhero]

@theedrstrangelove That sounds unlikely. 

[reelgangstazskip]

@Onedolla50cent a lot of schizophrenics have high intelligence.



[Crystalballer274]

@Onedolla50cent Your an idiot if you believe those "psycotic medications" do anything other than cause people more problems. It is all about the drug company making money. They don't give a rats ass if it actually helps or hurts people. These drugs screw peoples brains up, and cause irreversable damage. All so that psyciatrists and drug companies can make millions and billions of dollars. have seen people appear normal and then get on these "meds" and years later look like they are nuts.