Dave doesnt understand Catholic doctrine or church history very well.The students and co-workers of John the Apostle like Polycarp and Ignatius of Antioch taught Catholic doctrine in the end of the first and start of the the second century.They as the Apostle Paul did a few years early taught that the real presence of Christ at communion.That the regeneration occurs at infant baptism. In fact Ignatius used the word Catholic as early as 107 A.D. Catholicism always taught what the apostles did.
The RCC baptized the pagan gods and life continued as usual. Those who knew the truth and spoke out against bringing polytheism into the church, were killed the same before Constantine and afterwards. Look at the methods of how the martyrs died under the caesars, the deaths continued under the popes in many of the very same ways and knew ones, even more insidious.
Most churches are harlots because they believe in a triune God, the RCC introduced. The Bible says YHWH is one and there is none like Him. People reject YHWH Name even. They think Sunday is the Sabbath. There are titles in the churches when it is written no titles. They corrupt the Word of YHWH. They do not teach people to follow the Commands of YHWH and Yahshua. Churches are an abomination.
The Great Whore is the Roman Catholic church and she is the mother of harlots which is the Protestant churches of which none of them agree on doctrine.
The true church are the believers and followers of Jesus Christ whatever church they may go to.
The Great Whore is the Roman Catholic Church and she is the mother of Harlots which is the Protestant Churches of which none of them agree on doctrine??? WHAT??? This statement doesnt make sense. You are saying the Catholic Church is the mother of Harlots..and then you are saying the protestant churches are the Harlots two.
And you say the true church are believers and followers of Jesus Christ whatever Church they may attend?
Tell me..is the true Church the JW's Church?...They deny Jesus Christ!
Tell me..is the true the SDA Church?..They do not trust in Gods saving Grace!
Tell me..is the true Church the Mormon Church?..The believe in the book of Mormon!
These are protestant Churches. But according to YOU they are all believers and followers of Jesus Christ Whatever Church they Go to. Yet these Churches all preach a different Jesus!
So tell me..what is it that you think i dont understand???
I did not say peter is the foundation of the Church!!!
Only Christ is the Foundation of his Church!
The Bible talks about the great whore...about the Mother of Harlots!
where does it talk about harlot CHURCHES AS IN PLURAL???
If the true Church is those who believe in him. Then arnt all the Churches the true Church??? Catholics, SDA's, Mormons.....etc. Are they all the true Church??? They all believe in him dont they?
Its concerning that you cannot answer and that you generalize christs church
I already explained it on other comments here...it doesn't matter what church we belong to the true church is the BODY of believers those who worship God in spirit and in truth for the Father seeks such to worship him.
Harlots as John said are those who commit fornication and all the churches do this; they are the harlots that came from the RCC through Luther.
I understand what you are saying about the Mother of Harlots. And that there are other Churches commiting Fornication.
However i disagree that ALL other churches commit fornication. I dont think Jesus left his Church to commit fornication.
How about Jesus's true Church that was persecuted by constantine? What about that Church?? that was way before Luther. Real Christians burnt at the stake for Worshipping Jesus Christ and Refusing to Worship Mary..saints or Idols?
The only thing that you have explained is that the RCC is the mother of Harlots. And that all other Churches are Harlot Churches! Thats all you have explained. You havent explained why and How?
If the RCC is the Harlot church and all other Churches are Harlot Churches. Then Where has Christ's Church been for the last 2000years???
@delitemyheart The authentic believers are those tht contend for the truth, no matter what church they are, if they are not contending for the truth, perhaps they are not true believers? Certainly anyone who contends for tradition over truth, it questionable BUT that is the point which Christ instructs us to not judge. One can not judge specific PEOPLE and their standing with Christ, but contending for truth should be supported by all true believers.
@delite The "body" is a subset of believers in some, perhaps many of the churches that are harlots. The church being a harlot does not prevent some believers who contend for the faith, who contend for the truth, those believers are "the church". If you say you don't get it, you are not trying. AT this point it should be so clear. You seem to think that a beleiver must have a perfect church to facilitate this. You are wrong in this common error I think this error destroys Catholics. but not all.
Mother of harlots..harlots is plural. The great Whore the RCC is the mother of the harlot churches this is exactly where they came from under the monk Luther.
We the BODY of believers are the church those of us who serve Jesus, no name on a church roll makes you a Christian.
If a SDA is a true believer yes he in the Body and if a JW is a true believer he is in the body and so on.
How can you say that if an SDA is a true believer he is the body and if a JW is a true believer he is the Body?
SDA'S trust in keeping the sabbath to be saved. They have not put their full trust in Jesus Christ to save them. They must run home every friday night before the sun goes down and observe the sabbath or else! Well thats not worshipping God in spirit. The have put their trust in the Law. The covenant that God made with Moses and the Children of Israel.
...And JW'S deny Christ. They worship Jehovah. Well that no Good because the NT lifts up Jesus Christ as Lord. Not Jehovah.
The deny Christ and his deity. How can you say that they are the body of Christ???
You are correct in what you are saying...but you are incorrect in whom the Harlot Churches are!
You have generalized ALL other Churches to be Harlot Churches and the RCC as the mother Harlot. I just cannot fathem all other Churches..i mean ALL other Churches as Harlot Churches!
I said anyone who believes in Jesus Christ is a believer... one who believes in his birth and death and resurrection, this is believing in Jesus.
The RCC is filled with rituals and false gods and worship of Mary and thinks the pope is Peter's successor it is absurd their teachings, so far from the teachings of the apostles.
They have priests and not a one of them is of Levi's tribe of Aaron's family, it is absurd.
@delitemyheart The authentic believers are those tht contend for the truth, no matter what church they are, if they are not contending for the truth, perhaps they are not true believers? Certainly anyone who contends for tradition over truth, it questionable BUT that is the point which Christ instructs us to not judge. One can not judge specific PEOPLE and their standing with Christ, but contending for truth should be supported by all true believers.
Committing fornication with false gods is a sin and this is what the ie: RCC does with all her man made inventions and rituals and this is exactly what Christ condemned is traditions.
I would agree that the Catholic Church commits Fornication with False Gods such as Mary veneration...etc!
But what about all other Churches. You said that all other Churches are Harlot Churches because of Luther. So how do all other Churches commit Fornication like the Mother of Harlots???
Wonone100....there are many other Churches that teach False doctrine's..Not only the Catholic Church. And all of them believe that Jesus was Crucified and Rose from the dead!
Explain how Paul was converted, since he did not come into contact with Peter until after his conversion
Pacisdiligo says;
The same way every person has been saved since, via repentance and subsequent faith in Christ. This is the essence of the gospel, Catholic or Protestant version.
But if the Church was actually founded on Peter in the way the Catholics believe he would have not actually been saved until his visit to Jerusalem.
(It was founded on Peter, and Acts tells us why. Peter is the first to use his mouth to convert people and the first to stand up from the crowd to preach.....)
The Bible makes it abundantly clear Paul started preaching BEFORE he went to Jerusalem the first time to meet with the apostles.
You may be obliquely referring to the Catholic belief in baptismal regeneration. Are you saying that since Paul wasn't baptized properly, he couldn't have been "saved" until he met Peter and got baptized? You may have a good point there. Again, though I have disagreements with some Catholic doctrine, I do not share Mr. Hunt's belief that Catholicism is non-Christian. If that were true, the Christian church would have been absent from the earth for about 1200 years! Don't buy it.
I used to believe the whole "True Christianity disappeared and was mysteriously replaced by a clever counterfeit until God restored the church in the 16th century" nonsense. I have since come to a proper Biblical/historical understanding of the Church. Dave Hunt, bless him, is way off.
when people become catholic , they become christian. WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THE CHURCH, THEY BECOME PROTESTANT , OR WHATEVER GRUOP THEY JOIN, ORTHODOX WHAT EVER
So wait, Catholics defend the actions of every Pope?
Simply pointing to the place where Jesus said "you will be the rock" does not mean he intended his church to have a positive outcome. Remember, he came to bring a SWORD, and the RCC did just that!
The body is the temple of God, not some bureaucratic system of fagots running around in gold and silk.
The Holy Spirit is where wisdom lies, not behind the high walls of the Vatican.
FOX's Book of maryters!!!! look on line . All documented Torcher methods in fine DETAIL. Hitler used some morbid methods. The Roman Catholic church has done more damage over history than Hitler touched. You won't hear about these atrosities in SCHOOL!!!,TORCHERED S-l-o-w-l-y..not killing until they became Catholics"the BASTARDS"If your Catholic leave,don't be fooled. My Grandma got out long ago of Irish Catholics. study Bible Church on youtube with Dave Hunt. Chuck Missler,JackVanImpe.
We must remember, SATAN is behind RELIGION, He disguises. candy coats, and attacks from within, It is His WORST challenge. Just the FACT that Priests are to remain CELEBATE, was the START of an un-BIBLICAL teaching. God STATES that it is better to marry, than to BURN(with Passion. So.. see where just that alone has lead today. Secret SINS, Abominations to Children molestations to all. How can G-d BE IN this HORRID CULT. People get out of that religion and get a BIBLE.
Roman Catholic church burned true believers, they won't allowed people to believe in anything outside the R.C.C today they are trying to unit all faiths in all roads lead to heaven deal , as long as the pope leads it.
I'm forever amazed on how little christians know their own history - Without quoting the bible (sigh) ...Show me in EARLY church history where they taught those two heresies - I fear you have a "don't confuse me with the facts, I'm brainwashed mentality" .....I'd except a god, if there was one. Jesus is but one of millions of tyrant gods.
What you don't seem to understand is that the Bible IS our early history and it's not the so called church fathers we follow. The Bible is our standard and rule of faith. It's because of the "church fathers" we have Roman Catholicism and Calvinism, both of whom have persecuted Bible believing Christians through the centuries in their own time. When we start adding to the Bible is when we get heresy. The rapture and eternal security are both sound Bible doctrines.
As an atheist with no axe to grind - Xtians, the church is Catholic. All the doctrines Protestants love to hate have been a part of the Xtian religion from the start. Have the intellectual integrity to purchase the Anti-Nicene Fathers, it's Protestant Xtianity that's heretical.
Dave teaches 2 false doctrines himself - (1) the 16th century Eternal Security heresy. (2) The 18th century Pre-Trib rapture heresy. As an atheist I have no axe to grind here, but the church is Catholic (See the Anti-Nicene Fathers, 2nd & 3rd centuries) It's reformation doctrine that are wrong, sorry Xtians.
You keep saying you have no axe to grind but you wanna set the record straight as an atheist. Bible believing Christians don't accept any creeds or church fathers over the Bible and you're not as well studied as you think or you'd know the Ap[ostles taught both the rapture and eternal security doctrines in the Bible. The RCC didn't actually materialize until Constantine tried to paganize Christianity by combining the two. Man a HS world history text book will tell you that much!
The pre-trib rapture was not taught until 1830. The eternal security doctrine was not taught until 1521. Like I said, I really don't care which mythological doctrine you believe. Ignatius, who allegedly was a disciple of the Apostle John taught Transubstantiation. A fully established priesthood was in place at the start of the 2nd century. Baptismal regeneration was also in place at this time. It is reformation doctrine that is heretical. I'm amazed that anyone actually believes in Christianity.
Well, considering how far off base your history is I'm not surprised you don't care or that you really think Roman Catholicism is Christianity. But you'r entitled to believe whatever you want, no matter how wrong. There's no point in confusing you with the facts since your mind is made up. Repent and trust Jesus.
Dazey - From 1 (Jesus) ...Has Christianity EVOLVED into 30,000+ competing, squabbling sects including NEW species (such as Mormonism)...MANY of these sects commit the others into hell fire for eternity no less, because they don't happen to agree with them. So, I'm free to join the RCC correct? Because they have history backing them up. Or are you one of those who say that correct bible interpretation belongs only to those who agree with you?
I'm forever amazed on how little christians know their own history - Without quoting the bible (sigh)...Show me in EARLY church history where they taught those two heresies - I fear you have a "don't confuse me with the facts, I'm brainwashed mentality" .....I'd except a god, if there was one. Jesus is but one of millions of tyrant gods.
it all comes down to this;if you have told one lie,your a liar. if you have stolen even once your a theif. if you have looked with lust,your an adulterer and you have to face GOD on judgment day! rev.21v8-says ALL liars will have their part in the lake of fire. no theif or adulterer will inherit GODs kingdom. you must repent or you will perish!
"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy, to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man,"
Thanks be to GOD for Dave Hunt's faithful ministry!
Dave doesnt understand Catholic doctrine or church history very well.The students and co-workers of John the Apostle like Polycarp and Ignatius of Antioch taught Catholic doctrine in the end of the first and start of the the second century.They as the Apostle Paul did a few years early taught that the real presence of Christ at communion.That the regeneration occurs at infant baptism. In fact Ignatius used the word Catholic as early as 107 A.D. Catholicism always taught what the apostles did.
Baptistnomore 1 month ago
The RCC baptized the pagan gods and life continued as usual. Those who knew the truth and spoke out against bringing polytheism into the church, were killed the same before Constantine and afterwards. Look at the methods of how the martyrs died under the caesars, the deaths continued under the popes in many of the very same ways and knew ones, even more insidious.
courag1 8 months ago
Most churches are harlots because they believe in a triune God, the RCC introduced. The Bible says YHWH is one and there is none like Him. People reject YHWH Name even. They think Sunday is the Sabbath. There are titles in the churches when it is written no titles. They corrupt the Word of YHWH. They do not teach people to follow the Commands of YHWH and Yahshua. Churches are an abomination.
repentnowpeople 1 year ago
The Great Whore is the Roman Catholic church and she is the mother of harlots which is the Protestant churches of which none of them agree on doctrine.
The true church are the believers and followers of Jesus Christ whatever church they may go to.
wonone100 2 years ago
The Great Whore is the Roman Catholic Church and she is the mother of Harlots which is the Protestant Churches of which none of them agree on doctrine??? WHAT??? This statement doesnt make sense. You are saying the Catholic Church is the mother of Harlots..and then you are saying the protestant churches are the Harlots two.
And you say the true church are believers and followers of Jesus Christ whatever Church they may attend?
Well thats the dumbest thing i ever heard!!!
U are confused LOL
delitemyheart 2 years ago
I don't expect you to understand this.
wonone100 2 years ago
I understand this more than you!!!
delitemyheart 2 years ago
Tell me..is the true Church the JW's Church?...They deny Jesus Christ!
Tell me..is the true the SDA Church?..They do not trust in Gods saving Grace!
Tell me..is the true Church the Mormon Church?..The believe in the book of Mormon!
These are protestant Churches. But according to YOU they are all believers and followers of Jesus Christ Whatever Church they Go to. Yet these Churches all preach a different Jesus!
So tell me..what is it that you think i dont understand???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
The RCC is the apostate church and Martin Luther the anti-Semite began the harlot churches, all protesting the RCC.
No organization or belief has a monopoly on God , but his church is his body of believers all over the world. Those who follow him in truth.
wonone100 2 years ago
Ok...which are the Harlot Churches then???
Dont Repented sinners who believe in Christ go to Church? Which Churches are the Harlot Churches and which Church is Christs true Church???
"And i also say to you that you are peter,and on this rock i will build my church,and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it" MATT 16:18
Its quite clear that Jesus has one true Church. So im asking you,because seem to be generalizing and fail to give a comprehensive answer.
Which is Gods true Church???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
If you actually think Peter is the foundation of the church then I won't waste any time talking to anyone that ignorant of the Bible.
Christ is the Rock of my faith.
Harlot churches is all the churches from the whore the RCC, the protestant churches from t the great whore RCC.
The true church is those who believe in him.
wonone100 2 years ago
I did not say peter is the foundation of the Church!!!
Only Christ is the Foundation of his Church!
The Bible talks about the great whore...about the Mother of Harlots!
where does it talk about harlot CHURCHES AS IN PLURAL???
If the true Church is those who believe in him. Then arnt all the Churches the true Church??? Catholics, SDA's, Mormons.....etc. Are they all the true Church??? They all believe in him dont they?
Its concerning that you cannot answer and that you generalize christs church
delitemyheart 2 years ago
I already explained it on other comments here...it doesn't matter what church we belong to the true church is the BODY of believers those who worship God in spirit and in truth for the Father seeks such to worship him.
Harlots as John said are those who commit fornication and all the churches do this; they are the harlots that came from the RCC through Luther.
wonone100 2 years ago
I understand what you are saying about the Mother of Harlots. And that there are other Churches commiting Fornication.
However i disagree that ALL other churches commit fornication. I dont think Jesus left his Church to commit fornication.
How about Jesus's true Church that was persecuted by constantine? What about that Church?? that was way before Luther. Real Christians burnt at the stake for Worshipping Jesus Christ and Refusing to Worship Mary..saints or Idols?
What about that Church???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
Read my comments over I already explained it.
wonone100 2 years ago
The only thing that you have explained is that the RCC is the mother of Harlots. And that all other Churches are Harlot Churches! Thats all you have explained. You havent explained why and How?
If the RCC is the Harlot church and all other Churches are Harlot Churches. Then Where has Christ's Church been for the last 2000years???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
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@delitemyheart The authentic believers are those tht contend for the truth, no matter what church they are, if they are not contending for the truth, perhaps they are not true believers? Certainly anyone who contends for tradition over truth, it questionable BUT that is the point which Christ instructs us to not judge. One can not judge specific PEOPLE and their standing with Christ, but contending for truth should be supported by all true believers.
Do you want truth?
No institution is pure.
chris2002Rocklin 2 years ago
@delite The "body" is a subset of believers in some, perhaps many of the churches that are harlots. The church being a harlot does not prevent some believers who contend for the faith, who contend for the truth, those believers are "the church". If you say you don't get it, you are not trying. AT this point it should be so clear. You seem to think that a beleiver must have a perfect church to facilitate this. You are wrong in this common error I think this error destroys Catholics. but not all.
chris2002Rocklin 2 years ago
BODY of BELIEVERS is the church all over the world, it has no name it is the church.
Those who were killed were Christians NOT Catholics.
wonone100 2 years ago
Mother of harlots..harlots is plural. The great Whore the RCC is the mother of the harlot churches this is exactly where they came from under the monk Luther.
We the BODY of believers are the church those of us who serve Jesus, no name on a church roll makes you a Christian.
If a SDA is a true believer yes he in the Body and if a JW is a true believer he is in the body and so on.
wonone100 2 years ago
How can you say that if an SDA is a true believer he is the body and if a JW is a true believer he is the Body?
SDA'S trust in keeping the sabbath to be saved. They have not put their full trust in Jesus Christ to save them. They must run home every friday night before the sun goes down and observe the sabbath or else! Well thats not worshipping God in spirit. The have put their trust in the Law. The covenant that God made with Moses and the Children of Israel.
They do not trust in Gods Grace!
delitemyheart 2 years ago
Full trust? Jesus said whosoever BELIEVES in him not put their "full trust" in him.
You either believe in Jesus or you don't, no "full trust"about it.
You are either saved or lost on your way to heaven or hell, no lukewarm is accepted with God.
Anyone who believes in Jesus Christ shall be saved is the gospel.
The entire law is fulfilled in loving God and neighbor as yourself.
wonone100 2 years ago
...And JW'S deny Christ. They worship Jehovah. Well that no Good because the NT lifts up Jesus Christ as Lord. Not Jehovah.
The deny Christ and his deity. How can you say that they are the body of Christ???
You are correct in what you are saying...but you are incorrect in whom the Harlot Churches are!
You have generalized ALL other Churches to be Harlot Churches and the RCC as the mother Harlot. I just cannot fathem all other Churches..i mean ALL other Churches as Harlot Churches!
delitemyheart 2 years ago
I said anyone who believes in Jesus Christ is a believer... one who believes in his birth and death and resurrection, this is believing in Jesus.
The RCC is filled with rituals and false gods and worship of Mary and thinks the pope is Peter's successor it is absurd their teachings, so far from the teachings of the apostles.
They have priests and not a one of them is of Levi's tribe of Aaron's family, it is absurd.
wonone100 2 years ago
"Body of believers is the Church all over the World. It has no name..it is the Church"???
Well the Catholics are believers arnt they??? The Catholics do not deny the son do they???
Catholics proclaim the Gospel every sunday without fail dont they???
So the must be the Church aswell then...is that correct wonone100???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
@delitemyheart The authentic believers are those tht contend for the truth, no matter what church they are, if they are not contending for the truth, perhaps they are not true believers? Certainly anyone who contends for tradition over truth, it questionable BUT that is the point which Christ instructs us to not judge. One can not judge specific PEOPLE and their standing with Christ, but contending for truth should be supported by all true believers.
Do you want truth?
No institution is pure.
chris2002Rocklin 2 years ago
Also....what do you think the Meaning of commiting Fornication is?...What does that mean to you??
delitemyheart 2 years ago
Committing fornication with false gods is a sin and this is what the ie: RCC does with all her man made inventions and rituals and this is exactly what Christ condemned is traditions.
wonone100 2 years ago
I would agree that the Catholic Church commits Fornication with False Gods such as Mary veneration...etc!
But what about all other Churches. You said that all other Churches are Harlot Churches because of Luther. So how do all other Churches commit Fornication like the Mother of Harlots???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
Wonone100....there are many other Churches that teach False doctrine's..Not only the Catholic Church. And all of them believe that Jesus was Crucified and Rose from the dead!
Does this mean they are all saved???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
Dave does not hate the RCC as some think, he is just giving history and this is true history even though many Catholics don't want to see it.
I don't hate the RCC but do know they have a bloody violent and heretical history.
They practice many things that are not in the Bible.
No hate just facts.
wonone100 2 years ago
poor dave... he's been in his own version of the dark ages for some time now
faithful827 2 years ago
this guy is retarded, brazil is on the line side of spain not portugal, good job dave hunt, way to look like an idiot and give false info
11shave 2 years ago
Thats not what he said. He said that the western part of south America speak Spanish..and Brazil is on the eastern side and they speak Portugese!
delitemyheart 2 years ago
11shave....How do you mean???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
Spain is in europe...not south America!
delitemyheart 2 years ago
But the Spanish Jews were kicked out of Spain and many of them went to South America and the Inquisition followed them there.
wonone100 2 years ago
What does that have to with what i said???
delitemyheart 2 years ago
"littleredbirdy" said;
Explain how Paul was converted, since he did not come into contact with Peter until after his conversion
Pacisdiligo says;
The same way every person has been saved since, via repentance and subsequent faith in Christ. This is the essence of the gospel, Catholic or Protestant version.
Pacisdiligo 2 years ago
But if the Church was actually founded on Peter in the way the Catholics believe he would have not actually been saved until his visit to Jerusalem.
(It was founded on Peter, and Acts tells us why. Peter is the first to use his mouth to convert people and the first to stand up from the crowd to preach.....)
The Bible makes it abundantly clear Paul started preaching BEFORE he went to Jerusalem the first time to meet with the apostles.
littleredbirdy 2 years ago
You may be obliquely referring to the Catholic belief in baptismal regeneration. Are you saying that since Paul wasn't baptized properly, he couldn't have been "saved" until he met Peter and got baptized? You may have a good point there. Again, though I have disagreements with some Catholic doctrine, I do not share Mr. Hunt's belief that Catholicism is non-Christian. If that were true, the Christian church would have been absent from the earth for about 1200 years! Don't buy it.
Pacisdiligo 2 years ago
Why did Rome want Jesus killed?
Because he is/was a threat to their money-making, fear-mongering system of extortion. He is also God, manifest in human flesh
sparwood8 2 years ago
Here is what I think:
"Let God be true, and every man a liar"
Suggest we pray for wisdom to recognize teachers who are (Cha's Stanley, John McArthur) filled with the Holy Spirit, and be alert to them who aren't
I personally believe that if one becomes a Christian, they will soon renounce and leave the Catholic Church
sparwood8 2 years ago
They will indeed do that, because it is so obvious.
Peter did become "the rock" because, as Acts tells us, he was the first to stand up and convert people through the usage of his mouth.
littleredbirdy 2 years ago
That's good. The Cath church claims he was the first pope. I say rubbish. That is what I was getting at
sparwood8 2 years ago
I used to believe the whole "True Christianity disappeared and was mysteriously replaced by a clever counterfeit until God restored the church in the 16th century" nonsense. I have since come to a proper Biblical/historical understanding of the Church. Dave Hunt, bless him, is way off.
Pacisdiligo 3 years ago
Explain how Paul was converted, since he did not come into contact with Peter until after his conversion.
littleredbirdy 2 years ago
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Pacisdiligo 2 years ago
when people become catholic , they become christian. WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THE CHURCH, THEY BECOME PROTESTANT , OR WHATEVER GRUOP THEY JOIN, ORTHODOX WHAT EVER
wjm7259 2 years ago
Sooo......does that mean, to you, that a person who becomes "protestant" stops being Christian? Benedict and John Paul would disagree with you.
Pacisdiligo 2 years ago
DAVE HUNT DAVE HUNT DAVE HUNT (cherring)
Ashercrazicakes 3 years ago
So wait, Catholics defend the actions of every Pope?
Simply pointing to the place where Jesus said "you will be the rock" does not mean he intended his church to have a positive outcome. Remember, he came to bring a SWORD, and the RCC did just that!
The body is the temple of God, not some bureaucratic system of fagots running around in gold and silk.
The Holy Spirit is where wisdom lies, not behind the high walls of the Vatican.
littleredbirdy 3 years ago
APON this rock: Meaning what Peter had just said. Peter had a wife, remember??
sparwood8 2 years ago
This is explained in Acts. Who was the first apostle which stood up to preach and converted thousands?
Peter.
If Peter was the key to salvation, then how did Paul get converted without being in contact with Peter AT ALL.
Please, prove to me that either Paul came into contact with Peter prior to his conversion or that Paul was not a Christian.
So easy to refute this papacy idea.
littleredbirdy 2 years ago
where does the cathoic church claim that peter is the key to salvation in the catechism? Jesus is the key to salvation not peter
wjm7259 2 years ago
Dave Hunt speaks the truth,
let those who have ears hear?
weeweelegs 3 years ago 3
I've read Dave Hunts books and he doesn't have the first clue about the Catholic Church. It is full of wrong information.
jazzlady53 3 years ago
I grew up in the catholic church and have found it to be very ludicrous what we were led to beleive, so what is it that is so offensive to you?
cvrnut09 3 years ago
Congratulations for seeing this for yourself. Many never will
sparwood8 2 years ago
Why are you telling such a shit?
Changer01 3 years ago
Catholics are clueless about the Holy Spirit.
littleredbirdy 3 years ago 2
FOX's Book of maryters!!!! look on line . All documented Torcher methods in fine DETAIL. Hitler used some morbid methods. The Roman Catholic church has done more damage over history than Hitler touched. You won't hear about these atrosities in SCHOOL!!!,TORCHERED S-l-o-w-l-y..not killing until they became Catholics"the BASTARDS"If your Catholic leave,don't be fooled. My Grandma got out long ago of Irish Catholics. study Bible Church on youtube with Dave Hunt. Chuck Missler,JackVanImpe.
endtyms 3 years ago 2
the catholic church admits to at least 60 million murders. but sshhhhhhh, keep that quiet and on the down low
filoIII 3 years ago
We must remember, SATAN is behind RELIGION, He disguises. candy coats, and attacks from within, It is His WORST challenge. Just the FACT that Priests are to remain CELEBATE, was the START of an un-BIBLICAL teaching. God STATES that it is better to marry, than to BURN(with Passion. So.. see where just that alone has lead today. Secret SINS, Abominations to Children molestations to all. How can G-d BE IN this HORRID CULT. People get out of that religion and get a BIBLE.
endtyms 3 years ago
Roman Catholic church burned true believers, they won't allowed people to believe in anything outside the R.C.C today they are trying to unit all faiths in all roads lead to heaven deal , as long as the pope leads it.
weeweelegs 3 years ago
Exactly. The real Christians suffered while the fake Christians took all the power.
littleredbirdy 3 years ago 9
I'm forever amazed on how little christians know their own history - Without quoting the bible (sigh) ...Show me in EARLY church history where they taught those two heresies - I fear you have a "don't confuse me with the facts, I'm brainwashed mentality" .....I'd except a god, if there was one. Jesus is but one of millions of tyrant gods.
DukeNukem4 4 years ago
What you don't seem to understand is that the Bible IS our early history and it's not the so called church fathers we follow. The Bible is our standard and rule of faith. It's because of the "church fathers" we have Roman Catholicism and Calvinism, both of whom have persecuted Bible believing Christians through the centuries in their own time. When we start adding to the Bible is when we get heresy. The rapture and eternal security are both sound Bible doctrines.
Taotog 3 years ago
As an atheist with no axe to grind - Xtians, the church is Catholic. All the doctrines Protestants love to hate have been a part of the Xtian religion from the start. Have the intellectual integrity to purchase the Anti-Nicene Fathers, it's Protestant Xtianity that's heretical.
DukeNukem4 4 years ago
Dave teaches 2 false doctrines himself - (1) the 16th century Eternal Security heresy. (2) The 18th century Pre-Trib rapture heresy. As an atheist I have no axe to grind here, but the church is Catholic (See the Anti-Nicene Fathers, 2nd & 3rd centuries) It's reformation doctrine that are wrong, sorry Xtians.
DukeNukem4 4 years ago
You keep saying you have no axe to grind but you wanna set the record straight as an atheist. Bible believing Christians don't accept any creeds or church fathers over the Bible and you're not as well studied as you think or you'd know the Ap[ostles taught both the rapture and eternal security doctrines in the Bible. The RCC didn't actually materialize until Constantine tried to paganize Christianity by combining the two. Man a HS world history text book will tell you that much!
Taotog 4 years ago
The pre-trib rapture was not taught until 1830. The eternal security doctrine was not taught until 1521. Like I said, I really don't care which mythological doctrine you believe. Ignatius, who allegedly was a disciple of the Apostle John taught Transubstantiation. A fully established priesthood was in place at the start of the 2nd century. Baptismal regeneration was also in place at this time. It is reformation doctrine that is heretical. I'm amazed that anyone actually believes in Christianity.
DukeNukem4 4 years ago
Well, considering how far off base your history is I'm not surprised you don't care or that you really think Roman Catholicism is Christianity. But you'r entitled to believe whatever you want, no matter how wrong. There's no point in confusing you with the facts since your mind is made up. Repent and trust Jesus.
Taotog 4 years ago
duke, u are trying to slam christianity by linking it with false doctrine. it doesn't work
dazeycutr 3 years ago
Dazey - From 1 (Jesus) ...Has Christianity EVOLVED into 30,000+ competing, squabbling sects including NEW species (such as Mormonism)...MANY of these sects commit the others into hell fire for eternity no less, because they don't happen to agree with them. So, I'm free to join the RCC correct? Because they have history backing them up. Or are you one of those who say that correct bible interpretation belongs only to those who agree with you?
DukeNukem4 3 years ago
Only the Holy Spirit has the correct interpretation, not some organization.
littleredbirdy 3 years ago 3
AMEN
wjm7259 2 years ago
I'm forever amazed on how little christians know their own history - Without quoting the bible (sigh)...Show me in EARLY church history where they taught those two heresies - I fear you have a "don't confuse me with the facts, I'm brainwashed mentality" .....I'd except a god, if there was one. Jesus is but one of millions of tyrant gods.
DukeNukem4 4 years ago
I have listened to and read Dave Hunt for years. A true Berean of today!
LionKing62 4 years ago
A NIMROD FOR TODAY AND THE FUTURE
wjm7259 2 years ago
it all comes down to this;if you have told one lie,your a liar. if you have stolen even once your a theif. if you have looked with lust,your an adulterer and you have to face GOD on judgment day! rev.21v8-says ALL liars will have their part in the lake of fire. no theif or adulterer will inherit GODs kingdom. you must repent or you will perish!
VUTRUDOIN 4 years ago 2
Dave Hunt's ministry its great.
TKIDRDE 4 years ago 3
Please, more of this. What a great thinker this man is. MORE!!
MandoMohan 4 years ago 3
Luke 21:36
"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy, to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man,"
Thanks be to GOD for Dave Hunt's faithful ministry!
BoyleInn 4 years ago