Pig Farm Employee Tells All

[Shadowbear1955]

check Rosebud Hog Factory - Part 1 on youtube This one is just a commercial and far from the truth. Pigs should not be raised this way. It is a horrible way to have to live. Imagine living in a cage so small you can't even turn around in.

[crashrj543]

There are some real awful industrial meat operations out there. I'd like to see more of this place before concluding weather it's humane or awful, I can't really judge.

[ndustrielle]

The meat industry has gone mad. People will watch this and actually be deceived into thinking that these practices are ok because of the fun music, the calm tone in his voice, and the gentle treatment of the animals - which is probably just for the camera. Just because this guy TELLS you these animals are comfortable doesn't mean they are. Open your eyes and LOOK at the tiny cages they live in. That guy is "proud" of his job because he's either completely ignorant or just a jerk. Wake up world.

[xguns]

I'm getting rather tired of all these arm chair activists littering every animal video. No seriously.

[66Danger]

they can't move, they can't jump around, they can't run, they can't turn around, they can't play in the mud or take a bath, they can't sleep on soft ground, they don't have social contacts, they can never teach their babys al those pig-stuff, their bones and their body just has to keep standing in that box, and get raped from then to then... GREAT - THE MUST HAVE A REAL GOOD LIFE..!!!! I wish - it was YOUR LIVE, YOU ALL who take care that pigs have to live under these inhuman conditions!!!

[chunderville]

Looks like a prison to me...

[transformer450]

the pigs are fine. i have pigs and they are fine and content. you do that so there is the right amount of feed for the animal. people have to do that for farrowing and they have a whole lot of pigs.

[iOLY32]

nice note cards!

[bekindtoanimals100]

This makes me want to puke. Inseminating pigs? That is disgusting. Keeping highly intelligent animals in stalls where they can't even turn around is evil. Have compassion for goodness sake. Stop making excuses. Be vegan and be healthier and humane.

[1972JICase970]

you people are wierd. farmers arent bad. more pork puts more food on your table

[iOLY32]

@1972JICase970 unless you don't eat pork, dumbass....why would these people be saying things like this if they eat pork?

[1972JICase970]

@iOLY32 lets see you be a farmer for a day.

[iOLY32]

@1972JICase970 The funny thing is that I worked on a farm for a summer. Good one though! Also, your comment was completely irrelevant.

[1972JICase970]

@iOLY32 Dang!! I'm glad I live on one everyday!

[transformer450]

@1972JICase970 i agree. i have a few pigs and they are great to have and live in a clean enviroment.

[brittyn]

do you protect the animals when you slaughter them?!!

[brittyn]

disgusting liars.

[1111victorian]

Why did Ohio Pork Producers financially back Wiles Farm during his trial? Why aren't they showing his farm instead of yours?

[Dodger481]

Great video, this really makes me think twice about the issue. Here the information comes from someone who knows something about animals rather than some goof who attended a rally. Keep up the good work.

[watchensee]

It makes it easier for the farmers, but not for the pigs. It's not natrual!

[Terri3210]

... but the stalls must be increased in size to promote healthy and mentally well pigs...

This is the part I cant come to grips with .... why are these pigs forbidden enough space to turn around ... It needs to be a law that pigs have plenty of space to turn around and move to examine their own body when if desired...

[m0eDr3adzz]

@Terri3210 I completely agree !!

[yfz450n300exrider]

how much sows can your gestation hold

[MrSpockZilla1]

Also, this guy that's giving us the verbal tour of this farm doesn't even buy what he's saying, just look at his face. It's like he memorized the bullshit just so he could sound like a mono broken record.

[MrSpockZilla1]

You people are sick. I will never eat pork, period.

[jmac3480]

@tm9ish PIC genetics , look up PIC.com

[belmontsmild]

This is basically a huge solitary confinement prison. Arguably the most famous american prison in Philadelphia "Eastern State" was built well ove 100 years ago with the intention of being humane. The total solitary confinement of the inmates would drive most men Insane, it is a cruel and unusual punishment. There's notthing wrong with eating meat but i think people would be willing to pay more for it / eat it less of it, in order to abandon these type of methods.

[darknature79]

iam not takin sides and ive only seen theese vids just now and theese pigs look alot more satisfied then the pigs at other company videos theese pigs are content the pigs in the other videos are goin crazy and bitein the bars and dirty theese pigs look fine 2 me

[Oviner123]

Good informative truthful vid. Thanks for posting. As far as the deranged anthropomorphic responders............. THINK PORK!  lol

[cricket279]

Utterly revolting. If you believe your own speech on this video then I pity you. You are farming sentient beings. The farming of sentient beings can never be morally justified. How dare you treat them as things. Live without violence, Go vegan

[yapterence]

Straight-faced liar.

[Warsrogue]

Nice pig farm. People dont understand it's a business & you try to give them the best you can till it's time. Meat doesnt come from a magical box. All the people crying vegitarian, plants are alive just becuase you cant hear that tomatoe screaming, it's crying out on the inside when you make several thin slices down it's body....

[happylilpawz]

@Warsrogue you cant tell the bleeding hearts anything. They only see what they want to see. There are millions of people to feed and its the farmers/ranchers who feed the world. 99.9% of farmers/ranchers take excellant care of their animals. But the HSUS/Peta nutjobs dont care about that they just want everyone to eat like a rabbit. I say FY, bring on the meat.

[iammagnetic]

I can appreciate farmers, and the fact that they care for their animals (even if it still bugs me to see buildings with thousands of pigs in them). But it makes me question how much they care when they can send the pigs that they raise so lovingly to slaughterhouses that torture them.

[mzmxx]

It is the industry PR video.

[deadpanrookie]

wow, i'd love to live in that tiny little cage, wouldn't you?

[DogRescuer123]

@bubb964 Kill you, so i can eat you -_-

[erushbass]

Bit of a wastfull operation. those cages could be a bit smaller, then they could get another row of pigs in there.

[haal0702]

That's right, play happy music in the background to make us think that the pigs don't mind spending their entire lives in a stall where they can't turn around.

[zillahero]

@bubb964 Yah brotha!!!!

[khalifnme]

You can clearly see that the pens are too narrow that the pigs cant even turn around. Do they stay in those pens 24/7??

[101101101777]

I saw pigs inside a pen truck parked at wal-mart, they were boiling in 30degree summer heat, screaming, crowded and covered in bloody scrapes and feces.

[highpacmang]

@101101101777 30 degree?

[11Keri]

I was very concerned that you do not have your facts straight. The video shown above TRUELY displays how hog farms operate in our society. If farmers didn't care about how they treat their animals they would not make a very profitable business. Animal Agriculture is one of the most cared for and respectable jobs. I support agriculture and everything our farmers do for us.

[schaeferspeedmn]

Have you ever been to a farm before to see for yourself how livestock is raised?

[pdunny1920]

he thinks that locking pigs up in individual cages 24/7 ensures them good health and diet...

[schaeferspeedmn]

There is no daily beatings. If I beat my pigs that I raise. I will lose money. Do you like losing money?

[5Starruk2]

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[EMeadus]

NOW this is pig farming, not like them other dumb 5 mins vidoes where they just show death. Death is part of life. I have been working with pig my whole life and this is how it is done.

[aleterra]

The don't show the moment where they kill them!

[bridgettedunn]

How much do you think he got paid to read the prepared speech? LOL.

[bridgettedunn]

Is he kidding? They can't even move in those stalls. And he is obviously reading something that was prepared for him. Unbelievable. Ya, that really looks like a farm.... Come on!!

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!

[donnyRandom]

Livestock production is the second largest producer of greenhouse-gas emissions. More than all the cars, boats, trains and planes in the world.

[bryand79]

I'm curious what your source is for that? According to EPA, in 2007 only 2.8 percent of U.S. Greenhouse Gas (GHG) emissions came from animal agriculture.

[wraptwins]

yeah, do they have room to turn around?

[keikoasmom]

So what about all of the cruelty involved in the transport (which I just saw on I-80) and in the slaughter houses where no one cares a bit about whether the animals feel pain, in fact it seems that they are a bunch of psychopaths who enjoy inflicting pain.

[AnimalTortureMustEnd]

*individual stalls for the individual CARE*

ha

this is a load of bollocks. Show us the slaughter houses you manipulative liars.

10 pounds of grain could be produced for 1 pound of flesh. 30,000,000 people starve- there is no excuse for this

[schaeferspeedmn]

Please explain more about these 30 million straving people, where do they live?

[remnant1978]

call your liberal heroes in the whitehouse and ask them to halt the federal ethanol production mandates which eat up huge percentage of corn produced in this country, and start drilling in Alaska for oil

[Benm4054]

How would you like to spend your life in a metal cage?

[bloodmary23]

the a.holes that keep saying "yummy" and LOL at this kind of stuff would probably like it...

[clicht83]

Thats horrible, one of the worst things I have seen in a while. Thanks for sharing it with the puplic!

[starbabe58]

swine are unclean stay away from pork

[schaeferspeedmn]

There is alot of pathogens out in this world in everything, including fruits and vegetables. Be thankful that many of these pathogens can be controlled due to modern hog production.

[dandelion45]

All meat are "unclean" in Gods eyes. You take that "unclean" animals and "clean" animals to justify eating carcass . Those crap was put there by man wanted to find some "religion" in the way humans were going to eat meat although God said "thou shalt not kill". We are not meant to eat any meat and we can see this video is a crock. On video all nice and clean without camera filth and abuse.

[tjkillduff]

Where in the world do you come up with the idea that God does not allow us to eat meat. He says it right in the Bible that we are allowed to eat it.

[dandelion45]

God gave man temporary concession to eat meat and then were to stop. The rest of the meat eating in the bible was put there by man.

"What these correctores did was to cut out of the Gospels, with minute care, certain teachings of our Lord which they did not propose to follow - namely, those against the eating of flesh and the taking of strong drink."

Rev. Gideon Jasper Richard Ousley

There is so much more to it and if you like to learn just PM me :)

[Kerrik35]

being clean doesn't mean happiness-even though important -it would be better to be filthy and at least be able to move around than to be clean and be uncomfortable.

[schaeferspeedmn]

Those grain numbers are not right in the US, its less than 44% for corn and can't find the numbers on oats but oats is mostly used for oatmeal and other bread products. I have no idea about the numbers on water but they are big animals and I wouldn't want them to be dehydrated.

[gripdoggy]

I don't think individual producers such as yourself are abusive; and I understand that hogs are big. (I have one; he's also difficult!!) I think the system is off-kilter. The hogs need straw to root around in and occupy their minds; the straw composts; water is not needed to hose down the stalls. Fewer pigs exported to closer cities (i.e. not the far east) is in order; local consumers must pay more. Fewer antibiotics. NO cheap bacon for anyone. Ever. It starts with eliminating the stalls.

[schaeferspeedmn]

I don't like to use antibiotics unless I have to. And with farmers with larger operations, they aren't anymore abusive then a small one. There was an article in the NY Times the first week of April or so about free range pigs have been found to contain more parasites then pigs in modern facilities. I'll try to find and post the link later tonight.

[starbabe58]

this is abuse

[elephantcreek]

Meat & Poultry are an essential part of a balanced diet because they are nutrient dense and are considered complete proteins. Animal Ag's GHG emissions in the US have remained nearly constant since 1990, but production has increased. EPA in 2007 proved animal ag only emits 2.8% GHG, while transportation emits over 26% GHG. Electricity Generation emits over 33% GHG. Looks to me like farmers are the best at protecting the environment.

[gripdoggy]

- 17 lbs of grain, 50 lbs of fish, 8500 gallons of water used to produce one cattle

- Over half the pharmaceuticals produced in the US are for livestock

- Water pollution from livestock is more than ANY other industry, 87,000 lbs per second

-over 1/3rd of all fuel is used to raise animals for food

-80% of corn/95% of oats are used to feed livestock

- Meat industry produces more greenhouse gas than all transportation in the world!

[gripdoggy]

You treat the living animal as if it were a unit of production--a piece of unfeeling equipment. It's absolutely horrifying. These sow stalls are hell on earth for those animals and you're making money off of them. Give the animals some straw to rest on and some room to move. Disgusting.

[schaeferspeedmn]

They have clean rubber mats to rest on, they are in confinement to stay away from diseases, insects, etc.

[kayleigh9402]

I dont hear this man mentioning the fact that they beat lame pigs who are not able to walk because of terrible conditions.I seen a video and because the pig couldnt walk he beat it and beat it till it literally forced its obese drug dieted self to get up for its own saftey then another man comes over and beats with a pipe over the head and they skin it alive ..they miss out that dont they cos they are scared that they precious business will be shut down its pure cruelty t

[schaeferspeedmn]

Kayleigh, I encourage you to go to a pig farm in your area and see how it really is. That they treat their pigs with respect.

[LeftyBuckmaster]

Almost every farm today has a procedure to handle situations that involve animal abuse. What you mentioned is animal abuse and most farms today automatically fire someone if they abuse an animal.

[fLiPpAntMisSCreanT]

It's called desensitization, Redneck6123. Maybe you should go to the city or at least leave your neighborhood, for your own good.

[beaelliott]

He spends his time "cleaning and inseminating"... YIKES! These animals have absolutely no room to turn around - no hay... no sunshine... no life! They remind me of prisoners on death row - So very glad I thrive on a healthy and compassionate plant based vegan diet. People are screwy if they think anything about this process is "humane" or natural - It's a great environment for growing sneakers or tennis balls - not animals.

[schaeferspeedmn]

They don't eat hay, they eat grain.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

It wasn't easy to understand what you wrote. I am no city person, have worked on farms, stud farms, had horses ,dogs, fowl, and other animals all my life.

Confining pigs like this and denying them EVERY SINGLE NATURAL INSTINCT AND NEED IS ANIMAL ABUSE.

Yes any caging of animals is abuse if they are not also out acting out their natural needs.

[JUMPTHEGUNZZX]

This guy is trying to fool us into thinking a pig in a cage , where it has to just stand still and can't turn round , is a good thing? It's animal abuse, pure and simple.

[mssquirrely]

EFFICIENT ECONOMICAL WAY....... Does not sound right to me..... He sounds so SCRIPTED!

PIGS ARE SCAVENGERS....... PERIOD!

[schaeferspeedmn]

Great video, thanks for all you do!!! I wish all the individuals who are against these farms to look at it from the side of a producer.

[Greenvalds]

Im not Ignorant, theese type of farms are banned in california and other states in USA and other countrees all over the world, because of animal cruelty.

[jbnwc]

Greenvalds - Your comments prove to anyone who has actually been on a farm that you know nothing about farming or farm animals.  Educating yourself via Google does not remove your ignorance on this topic.

[xxxZENicxxx]

Respect for animals, go vegan.

Veganismo es respeto.

[farmersvoice]

the sows are not in the stalls their entire life you moron, they are in there a few weeks while they farrow and then they go back to general pop. by the way if sows give birth out of crates, they tend to lay on and eat most of the babies.

[BigMac2145]

i'm glad to know that the people raising the meat on this farm can read off of cards for the public 'service' announcement. It's easy to lie to yourself about these animals being treated well, if it takes the guilt away. these are the same type of people who say fish don't feel pain, screw them. once prion diseases are more common maybe factory farming will end

[amb0087]

These farmers have no reason to feel guilty because they are doing nothing wrong. They take great care of their animals and want people like you to be assured of that. Farmers arent used to being in front of cameras-they are just trying to share why they do what they do so maybe you can understand and trust that what theyre doing is whats best. Meat from the US and Canada is some of the safest in the world because of the way farmers care for their animals.

[BigMac2145]

it doesn't matter if they release videos saying their animals are treated well. Anyone w/ a brain knows these animals are suffering living the way that they do. Despite all of that, factory farming is the biggest waste of resources and is the most harmful thing that we do to the environment. It's not sustainable, and it will end soon whether people like you and the guy in the video want it to or not.

[ohfarmboy86]

Factory farming, if that's what you want to call it, is not a waste of resources. It is the most efficient way of raising food. The human population is growing at an exponential rate. If there were not technological innovations like this then many more people in this world would be starving.

If you enjoyed a good meal today, thank a farmer.

Food doesn't just magically appear at the grocery store.

[BigMac2145]

first of all, it is a huge waste of resources. you can feed 65 million people w/ the amount of food we give cows. but using the land to grow crops is actually sustainable. and you can feed more people with vegetables than w/ meat. 1/2 the corn grown in this country goes to feed cows and pigs, and guess what, cows don't eat corn!!!! they eat grass, not grain. That's why they need antibiotics, so they don't get their insides destroyed. why don't you do some research before saying things

[jbnwc]

Cow don't eat grain? Wow. How old are you? Please come visit a farm! Your comments are too funny! Farmers would really get a kick out of how much you don't know! They wouldn't make you feel bad about it, though, because they are better than that.

[BigMac2145]

actually, cows are ruminant animals, and ruminants eat grass, it's not up for debate, that's fact. corn is not grass, and corn is what they're fed in factory farms. you should review some basic biology before making misinformed statements.

[jbnwc]

Hey look! BigMac learned a new word! Ruminant! You are right, cows have digestive systems that allow them to digest grass. Unlike humans, they have 4 stomachs and rechew their food so they can handle grass and other things that would go straight through us. What wiki didn't tell you is the whole story - put cows in a pasture next to a corn field and see what happens! Not a single blade of grass will be eaten; only trampled on the way to the cornfield. - That's experience, not wiki.

[jbnwc]

BigMac - wow. Your ignorance is disappointing. I hope you do not represent the intelligence level of many Americans. If you knew farmers, you would know that they are much better people than you are. They don't spew lies as you do and actually have moral compasses. The best people on earth are farmers. They care more about the land and animals than people like you ever could. You are sad, sad, sad.

[PVAZmom]

Doesn't this guy have ANY idea that putting an animal that is more intelligent than a dog in a cage that it can not even turn around in for it's ENTIRE LIFE is total torture for the animal? You wouldn't do that to a dog would you?? This type of treatment to pigs and other farm animals is appalling and I can't believe that most Americans would rather stuff their fat faces with yet another plate full of cheap bacon than insist on purchasing meat from farms that treat the animals humanely.

[amb0087]

Most farms treat their animals humanely-the few you hear about mistreating animals are rare & appall farmers with their behavior. These pigs arent companions like dogs but are raised for food. For this reason pigs are cared for differently but humane treatment is a top priority. Pigs may live in stalls but life is not torture. They arent uncomfortable & are treated with individual attention & better care than if roaming around a pasture exposed to all types of weather, predators & disease.

[jbnwc]

PVAZmom - you obviously know nothing about farming. Pigs are not dogs. They are both intelligent mammals and there the similarities end. They only spend a few weeks in individual crates while the babies are most vulnerable. They have entirely different needs than dogs. To me, cruelty is the "natural" idea some people seem to like, offering no protection or care for the pigs whatsoever. Nature is more cruel than you could imagine. Farmers are the humane, caring ones.

[repenney]

I just can't believe these videos. I mean the cruelty that is endemic to these factory farm situations. I'm glad HSUS and Mercy for Animals is exposing these crimes. It makes me sick to think that Steve Mendell, the owner of Westland/Hallmark Slaughterhouse in Chino, lives in a multi-million dollar oceanfront house in Corona del Mar while his workers abuse helpless animals. I'm glad they were convicted of cruelty. Plus they put tainted food into the system. Just sickening! I'm voting Yes on 2!

[artsylin]

mam or sir m-m,

Are you not willing to at least listen to the kind sir. Maybe you feel the the same way about the way your veggies are raised. Some people can afford to buy everything organic.

Silver spoon syndrome

[abbyfreya]

Little does this man know, that this video proves the point that what he is doing is so inhumane. This man and his employees have become so desensitized to the plight of these pigs, that they can't even see the cruelty before their eyes: pigs living in the size of an enclosure hardly bigger than the pig is, standing on concrete all day, being reimpregnated over and over, at the whim of the farmer. Pigs are social and intelligent animals. Then the poor animals are slaughtered at a young age. Sad.

[OhioPorkTour]

Pigs are raised in climate-controlled barns to protect them from heat/cold. Barns also protect from wild animals & diseases they carry. Barns have furnaces/fans/misters. Stalls allow for individual care/safe environment/monitoring of pigs should they require treatment. Stalls help protect pregnant females pigs. While sows are mostly docile, they can be competitive, so stalls protect them from one another. Also, diets are tailored to a sows needs to make sure each sow has adequate nourishment.

[MrGoodAlex]

@OhioPorkTour That entire post gives the illusion that the pigs are being done a favor. That's an underhanded way of justifying the horrific treatment that they receive. There are ways to humanely farm pigs, but, doing so has been deemed to be "not economically feasible." So, compassion has been thrown out the window in favor of the almighty dollar.

[43Coda]

@OhioPorkTour "stalls"?? you mean gestation crates? hahaha, who are you trying to fool? other farmers? because that sure as hell did not work. And pigs are RAISED? INSIDE? for PROTECTION? Those pigs will never experience companionship, free will, a social life, freedom from pain or control or confinement--they will not once feel grass or feel the sun on their skin; we no longer deserve to eat animals once we take away their life before death; you no longer respect their full purpose.

[1kingconan]

@OhioPorkTour I just wish the stalls/cages were bigger so they could at least turn around.

[beeffe1891]

well said , have you ever watched 2+2=5 its a radiohead song , its along the lines of cruelty . pigs love running around outside . id like to see if any of these pigs were ever outside

[forpork]

These pigs look content and healthy to me. I've seen pigs outdoors that look gaunt & sick and filthy. These pigs are clean & look to be safe from the hazards of nature.

[youthsupporter]

Raising pigs indoors assures proper animal care, health and safety. These farmers are not in it for the money. They are in it because they love pigs and want to provide a safe food for the consumer. Humans have homes to protect them, pigs have buildings.

[Greenvalds]

I don't think that this is proper animal care, looks more like less space - more money, more suffering for pigs.

[MuckittyMuck]

I see you're friends with Farm Sanctuary, a pro-vegan, pro-animal-rights activist organization. You're willing to bend truth and reality to get attention. We don't attack your way of life, why attack ours? You are like farmland terrorists, trying to push your beliefs down our throats. If you don't like the way the rest of the world lives, duck out. But leave us alone.

[gripdoggy]

Why should we when you are polluting our land and dealing in living creatures? Why should some people have a free-for-all --and all hidden from consumers. A democracy has different sides and moves toward a just system. That's what this is about. Consumers can simply pay more for a better system, and you'll win in the end.

[bushriverman]

The pigs are protected, clean and healthy. they live in nicer houses than the farmers do, these barns are for the protection of the animal, not for the farmer. These farmers r losing tons of money for each pig they raise, it isn't about money to them, it's about providing safe food for their family and yours, and keeping the pigs safe. These farmers care deeply for their pigs.

[Greenvalds]

These tipe of farmers care only about money - i think it's obvious, poor pigs. And you know what Im talking about, theese tipe of farms should be closed.

[bushriverman]

American Farmers care about providing safe food for this country. If it was about making money, they wouldn't be farming today because American livestock farmers have been losing money for over a year. Farmers have a deep love and commitment to their animals. You should meet a real farmer!

[Greenvalds]

I don't need to meet a real farmer, I can see how those pig live.

There are better ways to get meat - not in small cages ind if it's not profitable, I hope they will close down, because there is more humane ways anyway, ind i know im right.

[MEC316]

you obviously know nothing on agriculture

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Just stop. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Greenvalds]

This farm is terrible, those pigs are trapped, they can't even turn around, you don't care about animals.

[bushriverman]

These pigs are protected from bully sows who will starve out other sows. Once the other sows are weaker, the bully will ATTACK them & eat them alive. These pigs are also protecting their unborn babies from the bully sows as well. This is a save way to care for the pigs.

[Greenvalds]

Come on, I think you know what Im talking about, those pigs have teriible life. Trapped in their small cages, this farm is all abouy money ( english isn't my native).

[MEC316]

if you don't know anything about agriculture then dont say anything at all

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Do we have to write it in crayon for you? You have to protect sows from other sows. They will beat up on each other. Thats just the nature of hogs.

[jbnwc]

Greenvalds - if you truly care, you would actually go meet a hog farmer. It proves that you do not care because you are unwilling to even entertain the idea that these people are wonderful people who love animals much more than you ever could. You only see a tiny sliver online and will never get the whole picture until you spend a few days on a farm. If you care, go visit one and you will see. If you don't care, continue to post ignorant comments.

[BigMac2145]

cruelty aside, the main issue is sustainability. Industrial meat production, and meat production in general, is not a sustainable practice. It's a huge waste of resources and is the worst thing that our country does to the environment. And you called me ignorant, this stuff is not humane. It's designed to be efficient, that's all. i'm sure farmers aren't educated in biology and ecology, and if they are they're inconsiderate and bad people. destroying the environment can't ever be justified

[BigMac2145]

and just in case you didn't know, people in this world are starving, and meat production is one of the big problems. and the 65 million people i mentioned is the amount of children that die of starvation every year. look up some stats. think of how many people could be helped if we switched the diet of this country to more vegetables and less meat.

[jbnwc]

In fact I did know people are starving, but it has nothing to do with people eating animals. I took an entire class on Hunger in college. Statistically, America alone produces enough food to feed the entire world. The starving populaces have nothing to do with the types of food we produce. That is a myth propoganded by the organizations like PETA that have an agenda.

[gripdoggy]

bushriverman, this is a tired old argument. If people re-learn the old art of animal husbandry, then these attacks will disappear. All the research shows that sow cannibalism happens under stress and that pigs are highly social. They can work their hierarchies out. These stalls are just labor-saving b.s. and they're cruel--and dependent on antibiotics.

[forpork]

Thanks for sharing your farm with us. It is very clean and the sows look very content and comfortable.