SO AT MY BOWLING ALLEY IT HAS A BRUNSIWCK A2 PINSETTER AND LIKE ALLMOST EVEERY SATERDAY WHEN I GO FOR BOWLING LEAUGE ALL THE LANES WORK FINE and it never gets jamed but why is it not gettting a jam? is it new or something? like is it a new a2 pinsetter?
Ahh, brings back memories. Use to work on 82-70's back in the middle 90's.
I created an electronic out of range device that would alert us in the mechanics room when an OOO happened. It was cheap, but it worked. I'm still proud of that thing. Wonder if it's still in use? hmm
Thats kind of funny to see, i almost had the impression that I was the only person to think of a "band-aid" type solution to mis-feeds....lol I just use old broken bowling pins, since bowling pins have holes in the bottom anyway. Sticking pins or plastic ball rail tubes like that, up there on the steel dowels of the orientor pan actually helps in some cases.
@bobbie4 Here is what AMF stands for. Automatic Malfunctioning Fiasco. Though the AMF [(American Machine & Foundry) proper name] 82/70 and 82/90 pinsetters are good machines, the Brunswick "A"s beat them. I feel that the Brunswick "A"s (all models) are superior to the AMFs. I wish that Brunswick never stopped producing the "A" series pinsetters. They are reliable. Almost every mechanic knows how to work on them. They seldom jam. They can produce a hum, but that can often be corrected.
@bobbie4 I would agree that the AMF 82-70, 82-90 were good machines. There was also the AMF 82-30. However, the Brunswick "A"s were simply better machines and I think that they were the best. Brunswick should have never discontinued the "A" series pinsetters. The GS series pinsetters are junk.
@alterman156 AMF is coming out with a new pin elevator - the cause of almost every pin jam. After that, they will definitely have the advantage. At this point, AMF=simple but has problems with known causes, Brunswick=reliable but complicated and hard to fix. When orientation problems are all but eliminated - watch out Brunswick.
You need to get rid of that mod.. I dont mod my machines as they dont need it. Mods are there to cover up mad mechanics work.
If your having problems with pins going head first, drop the Kidney Pan at the top and bottom then run the machine.
You want to look for the kidney pan moving when a pin rides against it. Then you want to check how fast the pin is transferring from the kidney pan to the o pan, it doesnt want to be fast!
@offspringmadboy yeah, and I'll bet your machines were also well looked after since the day they were installed. These machines were installed back in 1999 and they were already run into the ground. Pinwheel rollers all worn out, previous mechanic put a smaller pulley on the backend motor, but kept the original belts. I could go on and on, but I won't. Just damn happy to be out of that nightmare.
you need to move your pin rail down a little... the adjustment from the inside the pinwheel not behind the machine... take the plastic thing off and use the hole in the bottom of a bowling pin to bend the "O" pan pin up so i catches the pin head better...
SO AT MY BOWLING ALLEY IT HAS A BRUNSIWCK A2 PINSETTER AND LIKE ALLMOST EVEERY SATERDAY WHEN I GO FOR BOWLING LEAUGE ALL THE LANES WORK FINE and it never gets jamed but why is it not gettting a jam? is it new or something? like is it a new a2 pinsetter?
JRBowling1997 3 weeks ago
how about they take off that f****ng plastic piece !
Bananadude1200 1 month ago
Ahh, brings back memories. Use to work on 82-70's back in the middle 90's.
I created an electronic out of range device that would alert us in the mechanics room when an OOO happened. It was cheap, but it worked. I'm still proud of that thing. Wonder if it's still in use? hmm
jepuskar 3 months ago
Thats kind of funny to see, i almost had the impression that I was the only person to think of a "band-aid" type solution to mis-feeds....lol I just use old broken bowling pins, since bowling pins have holes in the bottom anyway. Sticking pins or plastic ball rail tubes like that, up there on the steel dowels of the orientor pan actually helps in some cases.
Reddogmr57 5 months ago
Replace the pinsetters with Brunswick "A"s. They work and almost every mechanic knows how to work on a Brunswick "A".
alterman156 1 year ago
@alterman156 Too true.
bobbie4 1 year ago
@bobbie4 Here is what AMF stands for. Automatic Malfunctioning Fiasco. Though the AMF [(American Machine & Foundry) proper name] 82/70 and 82/90 pinsetters are good machines, the Brunswick "A"s beat them. I feel that the Brunswick "A"s (all models) are superior to the AMFs. I wish that Brunswick never stopped producing the "A" series pinsetters. They are reliable. Almost every mechanic knows how to work on them. They seldom jam. They can produce a hum, but that can often be corrected.
alterman156 1 year ago
@alterman156 I Thought AMF stood for Another Mechanical Fuckup. Seriously, they're not bad machines. Definitely not as durable an A2.
bobbie4 1 year ago
@bobbie4 I would agree that the AMF 82-70, 82-90 were good machines. There was also the AMF 82-30. However, the Brunswick "A"s were simply better machines and I think that they were the best. Brunswick should have never discontinued the "A" series pinsetters. The GS series pinsetters are junk.
alterman156 1 year ago
@alterman156 Listen to me all of you. Buy the A-2 model stop being cheap!
billboardnumber1 1 year ago
@billboardnumber1 Not a bad idea!
bobbie4 1 year ago
unfortunately they stoped making the A-2 about 30 years ago
janchapman1969a 2 months ago
@alterman156 AMF is coming out with a new pin elevator - the cause of almost every pin jam. After that, they will definitely have the advantage. At this point, AMF=simple but has problems with known causes, Brunswick=reliable but complicated and hard to fix. When orientation problems are all but eliminated - watch out Brunswick.
MrJasonh89 5 months ago
Iv'e seen allot of AMF pinsetter jams but iv'e haven't seen any Brunswick one's.Do you have any video's of Brunswick jams?
Bubbled86 1 year ago
You need to get rid of that mod.. I dont mod my machines as they dont need it. Mods are there to cover up mad mechanics work.
If your having problems with pins going head first, drop the Kidney Pan at the top and bottom then run the machine.
You want to look for the kidney pan moving when a pin rides against it. Then you want to check how fast the pin is transferring from the kidney pan to the o pan, it doesnt want to be fast!
This job isnt rocket science :)
offspringmadboy 1 year ago
@offspringmadboy yeah, and I'll bet your machines were also well looked after since the day they were installed. These machines were installed back in 1999 and they were already run into the ground. Pinwheel rollers all worn out, previous mechanic put a smaller pulley on the backend motor, but kept the original belts. I could go on and on, but I won't. Just damn happy to be out of that nightmare.
bobbie4 1 year ago
@bobbie4 nah mine were far from, they where installed in the 80s i think. Been a year now and the lanes are running well!
offspringmadboy 1 year ago
you need to move your pin rail down a little... the adjustment from the inside the pinwheel not behind the machine... take the plastic thing off and use the hole in the bottom of a bowling pin to bend the "O" pan pin up so i catches the pin head better...
Gaddy1021 1 year ago