Inconvenient Truths: Canada's War in Afghanistan

[Freethinker12341]

Jean Chretien did the right thing

[chd2193]

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of either wars. But Chretien had already made the agreement to send those "thousands of soldiers" to Afghanistan prior to the UN motion which didn't pass. Because of the latter, Chretien decided not to go into Iraq, but continued with agreements regarding Afghanistan because the motion only took Iraq into consideration. So no Canada didn't ramp up support just cos they couldn't go into Iraq.

[BumJuiceDrinker]

bush is such a fucking moron

[ThisBoyTV]

Feels a bit odd watching this video in 2010. Canada is still there and supposedly bringing the troops home in 2011.

A little know fact to add. Canada has an additional 2500 troops in the Gulf and Mediterranean assisting the US. A little insider for you from a long time activist.

Canada had no choice on going into Afghanistan because of the NORAD agreement with the US. Add in the NATO agreement as well. Jean rarely gets credit for saying no to Iraq.

[MapleBalls]

@ThisBoyTV NORAD Has Nothing To Do With Afghanistan, We Are There Because Of NATO. "An Attack On One Nation Is An Attack On All Nations"

[rrussell39]

you see how well opposing the war did

[ANTIRACIST2012]

This is proof we are in a dictatorship masked as a democracy.

[kare3423]

thanks dude needed this for my english newspaper assignment

[curt4187]

I'll vote for whoever will legalize weed in Canada not the douche bags that are against it and fearful of life.

[Propagandhi900]

Ahem. Vote NDP in the next election. That will end Canada's involvement and improve the nation beyond what the Liberals could ever hope.

[uwerwrong420]

we just have to get up over that hump the taliban want there country back lol and there now stageing outa pakistan thanks pakistan 100 sumthing canadians died for nothing cause there harbouring them then when we all leave they take afghanistan again cause the a.n.a. is shit

[margot980]

Natynczyk and the Multi-National Corps supported Operations Vigilant Resolve and Phantom Fury, which destroyed the main hospital, 65 mosques, 60 schools, vital public buildings and infrastructure, and most homes (36,000 out of 50,000) in Fallujah. Arguments continue about the huge number of civilians killed, but most of us call the November 2004 rampage of slaughter and destruction in Fallujah a war crime.

[neven0000]

war crimes are crimes, and what was the envoy to the united nations saying? Canaeda peace policy I like but war policy and fear of countries no, that leads to closer ties with the americans and english and their one world gov. ideology. Canada needs friends perhaps it needs its own mobility and assets in other countries to accomplish much more than investments that decay national intrests of peace like occupying time with wars when simply it could have done better diplomacy with the countries.

[kyledroppo]

VERY POSITIVE VIDEO, thank you.

[Timaiii]

I like how you use facts/stats and not opinions.

[Rickdeckard2020]

The War was horseshit from day 1

The Canadian public was bamboozled and the Canadian Media is Guilty

The Taliban were all ok with the US when they were negociating the CentGas Pipeline and had opium flowing, but when the negociations fail and they banned opium, the plans for the war were Set In Motion Before 911.

The Taliban said if the US show their evidence about Osama, it would capture and hand over Ben Laden, the US had no evidence, Ben Ladens were even flown out of the US...

[southpark1223]

we have lost about 82 guys sad

but guess what america has lost 4000? thats crazy support our boys in iraq and afghanistan hope no more die

[akatheraven]

all i would like to say is there are 73 dead soldiers, if we leave Afghanistan then they died for nothing!

the war in iraq i agree should not be going on

but i disagree with the view on afghanistan

[missionaryoffaith]

@akatheraven no one dies for nothing.... ever

[ArtypNk]

What a douche. Leave other countries alone you Buss-wannabes.

[Astweld]

What is the music used please?

[Welshy86]

While there is things wrong with the country you need to contrast whether or not it is better off that it was before. Would it not be better to fix what is wrong with the mission than all out abandonment of the Afghan citizens. I don't not think that people there deserve less rights than I do. It is important that we have opposition in this country to raise this questions and set the mission on a good course, but some of the statistics are skewed.

[TVACdotCA]

Agreed - opposition is part of a real democracy. These facts are not skewed - they are all real and are sourced in the video. There are plenty of military and government folks making the one-sided case for extending the mission - we don't need to do their job for them. And they are getting their way in spite of polls that show a majority of Canadians wanted the troops back by 2009.

[Rickdeckard2020]

The Uzbekistan regime is worst than taliban, they boil people alive according to the UK ambassador who lost his job over them, but they are "good" guys. Why arent we helping the Uzbeks by bombing men, burning women and dismembering babies, Im sure they would want Canadian and US/UK to bomb them with our freedom bombs, reason they have a "good guys" label(the one the Taliban had before) and why you never hear of them in the propaganda media is they are protecting the Pipelines and the Opium

[Aro2220]

@Welshy86 if you really believed that you would join the military and go get shot at to give them the rights and freedoms you believe they should have.

I think the truth is most people wouldn't mind if they had it and they wouldn't fight against it but they don't want to help them get it.

[JaffeyJoe]

the money is going to war lords of weapons cuz there are only a select few countries that are aiding NATO in the south to much wieght on the donkeys back i guess if other countries have pulled there weight when the mission begun we would proably be almost done the mission

[TVACdotCA]

Well you are right about the weapons going to the Warlords. The U.S. funded these folks all through the 1980s, leading to a very violent period of 1992-1996 after the Soviet Union left in defeat. How can we expect any kind of peace or development if the focus is on funding and arming warlords with little concern for women's rights, development, or democracy? History tells us doing more of the same will fail again, and the people of Afghanistan will pay the terrible price.

[JaffeyJoe]

this is war no doubt about it we are knee deep in shit...how ever time to realize that we must stay and fight if we turn our backs on the nation whos very freedom we granted then they will be slaughtered and the images of those will be posted on youtube and the blame will be on the allies

[TVACdotCA]

Freedom in Afghanistan will never occur as long as other countries try to interfere and impose their will on an antagonistic population. The British failed. The Russians failed. Now the U.S. and NATO are failing. All money is going to warlords and weapons, not to development. That is precisely why there is no peace.

[JaffeyJoe]

the country has gone threw radical change since we have arrived children death rate is down by 33% and the taliban are thrown out of there country and the taliban have lessend there attacks on coalition forces the reality is we will never pull out untill the taliban and the people there learn that we will not quit (if its a good or bad thing doesn't really matter in this day and age)

[TVACdotCA]

If the Taliban are not in their own country, who then is attacking and rocking NATO's foundations? I don't get it? And if there is more than the Taliban fighting a foreign occupation, it does not bode well - 7 years of war by the most powerful armies in human history and "we still can't win". Radically bad change happened when the West decided to Vietnamize Afghanistan and supported extremists like bin Laden in an effort to destroy the Soviet Union. Afghan civilians paid the heavy price.

[Welshy86]

So your saying because people have failed before that nothing can ever be achieved. Thats false logic. This country has been through decades of war. Things will not turn around over night. No ever said that it was going to be easy, but in true north American style we want the magic solution over their.

Just my 2 cents

[TVACdotCA]

If a medicine makes you more sick, should you take it until you die? War has been in Afghanistan since the Soviet Union occupied and the U.S. fought a proxy war through the mujihadeen - reactionary, violent, anti-women forces backed and armed by THE WEST!

Maybe arming the warlords and failing on aid and reconstruction is the very worst thing we can do. It certainly loses hearts and minds. We are losing this war by any real measure. A magic solution would be to disarm the war lords now!

[luckydotcom]

Let those Canucks propose a cease-fire. If there still is such a thing.