Considering how this was one of the first major classical works I listened to years ago, I was much more impressed at the time. Since then I'd say this one is...a bit disappointing.
Loved this. The Baritone is excellent but he needs to learn how to pronounce his T's... 'Tu' - ba mi -rum spa - gens so - num. Tempo is a tad too fast again and I leave this place wondering if everyone except the Baritone was singing from the heart. That Trombonist struggled with Gardiners erratic tempo.
Don't be such hard-asses. Some songs sound a bit sped up at Live Performances. People with eclectic taste know exactly what I speak of. I want to see you perform this song. Jelly belly, pretentious folk always have to mess up everyone's party.
@kisslas.....Also, these soloists seem so nice. Are all singers really so egotistical that they would walk out on a performance by Gardiner because he told them to pronouce a word differently?
@Elainelps0421 egoistical? Maybe some of them are, but I'd rather say sensitive. _Extremely_ sensitive. (It's the same sensitiveness that gives them their ability for artistic expression.) I don't think they'd walk out, but if you kept nagging them with something like this, I can very well imagine they'd think twice before they work with you next time.
@kisslas You, know, it's funny, but I've been a musician for many years..and I actually love being nagged....my conductor can nag me forever and it actually makes me a better performer..but maybe that's because I am not a world-renown professional but a lowly mucker and grinder! However, I can imagine that there are some performers with the personality you describe: sensitive...but their sensitivity is still egotistical in my estimation. But Barbara Bonney seems so sweet! The others, too :)
Why is the soprano not pronouncing the final "s" of "justus"? What a basic mistake. Though I could also never grasp why hardly anybody ever gets "coget", "resurget", "fecit" etc. right (in Latin, the 'g' is pronounced as in "go" regardless of the vowel following it, and similarly 'c' is always 'ts', never 'ch'). These soloists can't even hide behind the bad excuse of being Italian. One wonders if it doesn't soon become the norm to pronounce the 'gn' in "Agnus" as 'ny'!...
@kisslas I didn't listen to the specific text where you were commenting, but perhaps it was the quality of the audio which did not pick up the pronunciation? Plus, aren't there different ways to pronounce Latin words based on the venue they are being used in? I do know that Gardiner is a Baroque scholar - I can't imagine he'd allow the soloists to pronounce anything wrong - plus, these soloists are/were of good reputation. One would think they would know how to pronounce Latin correctly!
@Elainelps0421 The bit about 'g' was just me ranting really. Even considering dialects, the 'ge' of 'coget' and 'resurget' wasn't pronounced differently to that in 'spargens' - which is pronounced correctly the first time round, but I'm not so sure about the second. (Sound quality possibly a factor there.) But I know the reason - soloists sing a lot more Italian (in operas) than Latin so they get used to the Italian pronunciation. Besides, even a great conductor must pick what to correct, (...)
@Elainelps0421 (...) especially if the soloists _are_ of good reputation - if he's too picky, they'll stop working with him (or stop performing well, which is just as bad). And as your reply shows, most people - even musicians - aren't sure about the correct pronunciation (or don't even care).
Re final "s", if you listen to 2:05 "cum vix justus, justus sit securus", the "s" at the end of the first "justus" is inaudible (not so the others). Oh well. I guess that sort of thing happens.
@kisslas I remember talking to a soprano who said something about two different types of Latin pronunciations? I can't really remember. I've sung in choir for 12 straight years and have sung a great deal of Latin, but never remember being taught much about pronunciation. I guess our conductors were mostly musicians and not linguists. I certainly never knew that there was more than one way to correctly pronounce Latin words.
@Elainelps0421 funny, I've sung in choir for about 12 years too. We've got an archeologist there who can tell you the correct Latin pronunciation for anything depending on era and region, and sometimes even other factors... as well as the pronunciation for more obscure languages such as 14th century Provençal. Maybe it's through her influence that I became so picky, although I'm by no means anywhere as good at Latin as she is.
@kisslas - if that's true (that 'c' is never pronounced as 'ch') then all the priests I have ever heard say Mass in Latin are pronouncing it incorrectly in spite of years of training - oh yes, and all the pronunciation guides I have seen for praying in Latin are also wrong. In fact, it is the correct pronunciation, and pronouncing "agnus" as "anyus" is also correct.
Ecclesiastical Latin is pronounced differently from classical Latin!
@Elainelps0421 - I am not an expert in Latin, but the basic division with which I am familiar is between classical Latin and church Latin. In general, anything that is religious and in Latin is going to be in church Latin and use that style of pronunciation - meaning all choral and orchestrated Masses (eg. Bach's Mass in B Minor), also things like Pergolesi's Stabat Mater or Palestrina's Sicut Cervus. In school people usually study classical Latin, for reading philosophy, literature etc.
@llamala2010 Oh, okay, thank you very much...I've sung things in Latin but have never studied Latin in school, so perhaps that is why I never knew of the two different pronunciations. You learn something every day :)
@Elainelps0421 - you're quite welcome. I sang in choir for years but eventually stopped when it became too career-oriented and competitive for me (competitive within the choir, I mean - I liked singing in competitions). I really miss it though.
@llamala2010 I see....well, I sang in choir for about 13 straight years, from grade 4 or 5 through grad school. After that, I didn't anymore as I was more of a violinist - but I miss it, as well. Maybe someday... :)
When I've sung in the Mozart Requiem, and I have done several times, this is the usual tempo. Go any slower and a) it would drag horribly, and b) the bass would need leather lungs to do the opening phrase without a breath. The tempo marking in the score is "Andante" and the metronome marking in the Novello edition is 88 beats a minute.
@65renaissanceman@65renaissanceman I agree. I am certainly no Mozart scholar, but am speaking more on a personal level. Too slow and it would drag horribly. I think perhaps even Mozart may agree! I have also performed the Requiem a number of times (I am a violinist) and will be doing so again this spring. I am actually attending a performance at the Kimmel Center in Philadelphia this afternoon by the Philadelphia Orchestra! I am becoming emotionally involved with this great work!
@65renaissanceman well i've seen a bass with laether lungs then, because there is a much slower version of this piece right here on youtube, and i prefere that one.
I personally agree that this tempo is too fast for this movement, though difference in opinion is what helps propogate variety, and variety is what makes life worwth living.
If you say you dislike the tempo you should realize that Gardiner goes to great great lengths to reproduce the way the composer, in the case Mozart, wanted it to sound. Using period instruments, following each marking on the page to the letter. Using ensemble sizes and arrangements that would've been used at the time. Listen to him do Beethoven's 5th.
Tuba mirum spargens sonum per sepulcra regionum, coget omnes ante thronum. Mors stupebit et Natura, cum resurget creatura, judicanti responsura. Liber scriptus proferetur, in quo totum continetur,' unde Mundus judicetur. Judex ergo cum sedebit, quidquid latet apparebit, nil inultum remanebit. Quid sum miser tunc dicturus ? Quem patronum rogaturus, cum vix justus sit securus ?
The tenor entry and tenor part is very dynamic, meaning he crescendos and decrescendos just perfectly to make the music... well, music. Also, the mezzo-soprano is very solid in her entry. Also, one thing I noticed is that in other videos of the same concert is that these soloists really take note on how it should be preformed; the mezzo-soprano in Laudamus te in Mozart's Great Mass in C minor is very energetic, and sings with great passion. Then the requiem is sung sorrowful and mournful.
The Hogwood Vesion is the perfect version. ARJ is clearly rushing some of the phrasing here. Not that the JEG version is without it's merits. His conductiong is crisp and clear and the orchestra is very tight.
Very mozart. im sure mozart would be so happy if he'd be able to hear this. excellent performance. i lyk the idea of singing it by "heart" (memorized). i love this work so much. (^^,)
I was under the impression that in Latin "g" is always pronounced hard, like in get, and never like a j, as in gel- yet the first soloist pronounces "spargens"and "regionum" with a clear j sound.
Is an exception made in music, or am I mixing up my rules?
I agree, for me it also feels a bit too fast. And the basso sounds as if he has to force his voice and it gets slightly aggressive. But nevertheless I love this trombone and especially the soprano soloist!
Haha, the urtext score has "Andante" marked... Alas, Andante can mean a variety of things. I wouldn't exactly consider this Andante, though. All of the tempos seem quite fast... Then again, Gardiner is a genius. He knows what he's doing.
Great soloists, great orchestra. It's nice to hear a more classical/baroque interpretation of a piece that so often gets a mildly romantic treatment. I honestly don't know which kind of performance I like better, but the variety is nice.
wouldnt Woflgang have left some indication of the Andante tempo on the original manuscript. andante can mean many things to many conductors, but an originalmetronome or bar to the minute would be a good indication of how Wolfgang would have played it,
Tuba mirum A trumpet, spreading a wondrous sound Through the graves of all lands, Will drive mankind before the throne. Death and Nature shall be astonished When all creation rises again To answer to the Judge. A book, written in, will be brought forth In which is contained everything that is, Out of which the world shall be judged. When therefore the Judge takes His seat Whatever is hidden will reveal itself. Nothing will remain unavenged.
@wackyal3000 Actually this is the first version I have ever heard of this song. then I went and heard a slower version. that seemed to drag a little. I think it's all about opinion and what you heard first.
@wackyal3000 Actually this is the first version I have ever heard of this song. then I went and heard a slower version. that seemed to drag a little. I think it's all about opinion and what you heard first. like what you're used to hearing.
i cant stop watching the soprano. truly beautiful in that the sense that beauty is opening youself up, allowing something beautiful to speak through you. Its remarkable. the tenor is the same way.
These soloist are awesome. They each know what they are singing well and project that to the audience. I am doing the bass part May 12 and hope I do as well as this sololist did.
mozart actually told his pupil if he died to write all this so the requiem was finshed by him but he didnt write it his pupil did but the ideas was from him
talk about a bass who "phones in" his performance... i'm totally bored watching him.... so bored i'm not even sure if he sang well... LOL oh jesus... they're all on ritilin! LOL
I would think bass voice alone is not meant to be pleasant to the ear as it is very very low, but the beautiful of the bass voice is when it compliments the other voices...as is the case in this piece. I'll rate the bass voice very high. He sang as Wolfgang heard it in his head!
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OOOO.. How wonderful it must be to know what Mozart had going on in his head! You are VERY special, aren't you? Do you "channel" other composers as well? Let me see.... Who else could I ask you about?
The tempo is a joke. Its like looking at a sunset as you are driving. You get a quick glimpse but dont really have time to soak in the beauty. I wonder if the tempo is about the music or to get people talking about Gardiner himself. Well its worked we are talking about him not the music.
For those wondering who the tenor is, it's Anthony Rolfe Johnson. Fantastic guy. Obviously flanked by the wonderful Barbara Bonney and Anne Sofie von Otter, though I don't know who the bass is. Personally I like this tempo, but as I've grown up with Gardiner's 1986 recording that's probably not surprising!
Actually, Amadeus is a movie adaptation of a play by Peter Shaffer, which was itself inspired by a short play by Alexander Pushkin entitled "Mozart and Salieri". Shaffer himself adapted the movie. So, Forman really had nothing to do with the story, only its direction.
Mozart did leave a few sketches of the Domine Jesu Christe, and some of the later sections were just recapitulations of early material, but Sussmayr did have to compose quite a bit of original music.
Unfortunately, the contrast between the Sussmayr material and the Mozart material is stark. That is what has kept the Requiem from being recognized as a complete choral masterpiece. Actually, the great C Minor Mass is closer. In any case, the story of Amadeus is largely fictitious as you well know.
I understand that Mozart was visited by death before he could finished this piece (Requiem) and that Salieri finished it . how far did Mozart get before he died in other words ,how much of it is Salieri and how much of it is Mozart ,I care because its my favorite from Mozart.
Sussmayr orchestrated most of the Requiem (the orchestration of Mozart breaks off in the Kyrie), but he likely had sketches or Mozartean ideas nonetheless even in the pieces he composed, else there wouldn't be germ motives such as the bass line in the "Agnus Dei" which corresponds to the main theme from the "Introitus - Requiem aeternam". Gardiner is probably using a version with corrected and cleaned up orchestration by Franz Beyer, as usual among HIP conductors.
Anyways, not really a fan of this part of Gardiner's requiem, the tempo is too fast, it's a bit too stiff imo - especially the trombone part, the bass isn't all that great either - the first few notes sound very, very forced - this is where Harnoncourt's most recent Requiem really shines, Gerald Finley is absolutely amazing here. I can but recommend this 2004 rendition of the Requiem to everyone, it's grave, expressive, but never operatic - an amazing, mature performance.
I think that the soloists are fantastic...especially the timbre of the Tenor. However, the tempo is way to fast. I think the perect tempo was defined by Herbert von Karajan when the Berliner Philharmoniker did this piece in the 70's. Otherwise, fantastic!!!
I agree with you 100% concerning the tempo; it's by a comfortable mile too fast. The solistst on the other hand are technically perfect but they don't touch my heart.
Take into account, however, that these soloists are singing in a solemn piece of mourning and remembrance, and indeed the words to which they sing are incredibly serious. I think that classically, it is a convention to remain still while you sing - the voice is an instrument. Facial gestures coinciding with the words are important though.
The soloist line-up is a dream! The tempo works for me and I suppose is determined by the first bass soloist phrase, which, if tempo would be any slower, would be impossible to sing in one breath.
Paata Burchuladze, the basse in Karajan's Mozart's Requiem was able to sing the phrase in one breath...as was the tenor Vinson Cole and the Mezzo-Soprano, Helga Muller-Molinari and the Soprano, Anna Tomowa-Sintow. If Karajan can take the tempo to a Langsam and the soloists can make one breath, then so can others. It just takes severe contraction with the diaphram and the lower abdominals. The soloists are amazing, no doubt, but the tempo is too fast to project a Requieme setting.
Gardiner è il solito pagliaccio. Ha impiastricciato tutto colle sue deficienze di tipo filologico. Ricordo una sua esecuzione del 1991 del Requiem: uno schifo da far vomitare.
i giggled a little bit when i heard the first guy
tackledparsley 3 weeks ago
Considering how this was one of the first major classical works I listened to years ago, I was much more impressed at the time. Since then I'd say this one is...a bit disappointing.
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KingFroste 2 months ago
@KingFroste Oh well they must be lame then!
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KingFroste 2 months ago
''spargens'' - cacology
Jirka2880 2 months ago
Loved this. The Baritone is excellent but he needs to learn how to pronounce his T's... 'Tu' - ba mi -rum spa - gens so - num. Tempo is a tad too fast again and I leave this place wondering if everyone except the Baritone was singing from the heart. That Trombonist struggled with Gardiners erratic tempo.
bootheven 2 months ago
Stupid guy!!! Pffff...mammamiaaaaa!
Tuba mirum spargens sonum.....
szofia75 3 months ago
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szofia75 3 months ago
this quartet is probably the best i can find on youtube. if you have a better one, let me know! also im in love with the soprano delicate notes
theshiz0 3 months ago
The tenor was fantastic, he is just fun to watch. The bass had a surprising look, especially missing that said epic beard @guilhugas mentioned
jonweinraub 4 months ago
nous on s'en fous on parle français et c'est super ! :-)))
Bibu231060 4 months ago
is it not too flat ?
1995or1 4 months ago
pause at 0:00
:)
annabellyfullofjelly 4 months ago in playlist Mozart Requim
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haha, his expression?
choirboi59 4 months ago in playlist MOZART REQUIEM Gardiner
@choirboi59 Yes :) it's funny! :)
annabellyfullofjelly 4 months ago
I wasn't watching the video and when he began singing I could have sworn that rich bass was African-American. Way to go, man!
ashleylynnjoan 4 months ago in playlist Mozart - Requiem in D Minor
Don't be such hard-asses. Some songs sound a bit sped up at Live Performances. People with eclectic taste know exactly what I speak of. I want to see you perform this song. Jelly belly, pretentious folk always have to mess up everyone's party.
nyrebellion 4 months ago 2
gross
sliphorn88h 5 months ago
forget about the "bass" mispronouncing words, his jump from the mi to the rum sounds AWFUL
BiggerBango 5 months ago in playlist Mozart - Requiem in D Minor 4
Mozart is the best classical artist. :)
ValorianiDDUrden 6 months ago in playlist Mozart - Requiem in D Minor 2
Oh, church Latin = ecclesiastical Latin, if that wasn't clear.
llamala2010 6 months ago
I'm an alto and I'm going to sing this next month, it's amazing... In my opinion, the faster the better!
LisaCrazyFingers 7 months ago
Beautiful. This tempo is perfect:)
aniyeats 7 months ago
Bass . . . what you doing ;____;
USE YOUR ENUNCIATION BASS YOU CAN DO IT
silverlament 7 months ago
actually, the alto is a mezzosoprano
42TheGamer 8 months ago
Wow, the alto has a long neck! O_O
ketttr01 8 months ago
the soprano and alto have beautiful voices, some of the finest performances piece i've heard.
Fletcherubetcha 8 months ago
CHE MERAVIGLIA ..... E CHE BEL CONTRALTO
mistral54ca 9 months ago
CHE MERAVIGLIA .....
mistral54ca 9 months ago
@kisslas.....Also, these soloists seem so nice. Are all singers really so egotistical that they would walk out on a performance by Gardiner because he told them to pronouce a word differently?
Elainelps0421 9 months ago
@Elainelps0421 egoistical? Maybe some of them are, but I'd rather say sensitive. _Extremely_ sensitive. (It's the same sensitiveness that gives them their ability for artistic expression.) I don't think they'd walk out, but if you kept nagging them with something like this, I can very well imagine they'd think twice before they work with you next time.
kisslas 9 months ago
@kisslas You, know, it's funny, but I've been a musician for many years..and I actually love being nagged....my conductor can nag me forever and it actually makes me a better performer..but maybe that's because I am not a world-renown professional but a lowly mucker and grinder! However, I can imagine that there are some performers with the personality you describe: sensitive...but their sensitivity is still egotistical in my estimation. But Barbara Bonney seems so sweet! The others, too :)
Elainelps0421 9 months ago
I really love this piece. Whether this fast, or a litlle slower, it is great.
Hear the requiem uploaded by "heildirgunther" if you want to taste a slower perfomance.
este6an 9 months ago
Why is the soprano not pronouncing the final "s" of "justus"? What a basic mistake. Though I could also never grasp why hardly anybody ever gets "coget", "resurget", "fecit" etc. right (in Latin, the 'g' is pronounced as in "go" regardless of the vowel following it, and similarly 'c' is always 'ts', never 'ch'). These soloists can't even hide behind the bad excuse of being Italian. One wonders if it doesn't soon become the norm to pronounce the 'gn' in "Agnus" as 'ny'!...
kisslas 9 months ago
@kisslas I didn't listen to the specific text where you were commenting, but perhaps it was the quality of the audio which did not pick up the pronunciation? Plus, aren't there different ways to pronounce Latin words based on the venue they are being used in? I do know that Gardiner is a Baroque scholar - I can't imagine he'd allow the soloists to pronounce anything wrong - plus, these soloists are/were of good reputation. One would think they would know how to pronounce Latin correctly!
Elainelps0421 9 months ago
@Elainelps0421 The bit about 'g' was just me ranting really. Even considering dialects, the 'ge' of 'coget' and 'resurget' wasn't pronounced differently to that in 'spargens' - which is pronounced correctly the first time round, but I'm not so sure about the second. (Sound quality possibly a factor there.) But I know the reason - soloists sing a lot more Italian (in operas) than Latin so they get used to the Italian pronunciation. Besides, even a great conductor must pick what to correct, (...)
kisslas 9 months ago
@Elainelps0421 (...) especially if the soloists _are_ of good reputation - if he's too picky, they'll stop working with him (or stop performing well, which is just as bad). And as your reply shows, most people - even musicians - aren't sure about the correct pronunciation (or don't even care).
Re final "s", if you listen to 2:05 "cum vix justus, justus sit securus", the "s" at the end of the first "justus" is inaudible (not so the others). Oh well. I guess that sort of thing happens.
kisslas 9 months ago
@kisslas I remember talking to a soprano who said something about two different types of Latin pronunciations? I can't really remember. I've sung in choir for 12 straight years and have sung a great deal of Latin, but never remember being taught much about pronunciation. I guess our conductors were mostly musicians and not linguists. I certainly never knew that there was more than one way to correctly pronounce Latin words.
Elainelps0421 9 months ago
@Elainelps0421 funny, I've sung in choir for about 12 years too. We've got an archeologist there who can tell you the correct Latin pronunciation for anything depending on era and region, and sometimes even other factors... as well as the pronunciation for more obscure languages such as 14th century Provençal. Maybe it's through her influence that I became so picky, although I'm by no means anywhere as good at Latin as she is.
kisslas 9 months ago
@kisslas - if that's true (that 'c' is never pronounced as 'ch') then all the priests I have ever heard say Mass in Latin are pronouncing it incorrectly in spite of years of training - oh yes, and all the pronunciation guides I have seen for praying in Latin are also wrong. In fact, it is the correct pronunciation, and pronouncing "agnus" as "anyus" is also correct.
Ecclesiastical Latin is pronounced differently from classical Latin!
llamala2010 8 months ago
@llamala2010 I wish I knew more about the different types of Latin and how to pronounce them and when they are used where....
Elainelps0421 6 months ago
@Elainelps0421 - I am not an expert in Latin, but the basic division with which I am familiar is between classical Latin and church Latin. In general, anything that is religious and in Latin is going to be in church Latin and use that style of pronunciation - meaning all choral and orchestrated Masses (eg. Bach's Mass in B Minor), also things like Pergolesi's Stabat Mater or Palestrina's Sicut Cervus. In school people usually study classical Latin, for reading philosophy, literature etc.
llamala2010 6 months ago
@llamala2010 Oh, okay, thank you very much...I've sung things in Latin but have never studied Latin in school, so perhaps that is why I never knew of the two different pronunciations. You learn something every day :)
Elainelps0421 6 months ago
@Elainelps0421 - you're quite welcome. I sang in choir for years but eventually stopped when it became too career-oriented and competitive for me (competitive within the choir, I mean - I liked singing in competitions). I really miss it though.
llamala2010 6 months ago
@llamala2010 I see....well, I sang in choir for about 13 straight years, from grade 4 or 5 through grad school. After that, I didn't anymore as I was more of a violinist - but I miss it, as well. Maybe someday... :)
Elainelps0421 6 months ago
Barbara Bonney, soprano; Anne-Sofie von Otter, mezzo; the late Anthony Rolfe Johnson, tenor; ?? bass.
molealto 9 months ago
@molealto Alistair Miles
doctorfate77 9 months ago
the film direction is excellent during the solos.
MarcusAnthonyDowns 10 months ago
Today is my first rehearsal for the Requiem for our Spring performance ....but this is my third time performing it :) I can't wait :)
Elainelps0421 10 months ago
a guy with such low voice should have an epic beard!
guilhugas 11 months ago 25
I'm more of a Beethoven-fan, but the Mozart Requiem is incredible.
LestatxLouis1 11 months ago
When I've sung in the Mozart Requiem, and I have done several times, this is the usual tempo. Go any slower and a) it would drag horribly, and b) the bass would need leather lungs to do the opening phrase without a breath. The tempo marking in the score is "Andante" and the metronome marking in the Novello edition is 88 beats a minute.
65renaissanceman 1 year ago 3
@65renaissanceman @65renaissanceman I agree. I am certainly no Mozart scholar, but am speaking more on a personal level. Too slow and it would drag horribly. I think perhaps even Mozart may agree! I have also performed the Requiem a number of times (I am a violinist) and will be doing so again this spring. I am actually attending a performance at the Kimmel Center in Philadelphia this afternoon by the Philadelphia Orchestra! I am becoming emotionally involved with this great work!
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
@65renaissanceman well i've seen a bass with laether lungs then, because there is a much slower version of this piece right here on youtube, and i prefere that one.
plagueofangels666 11 months ago
I personally agree that this tempo is too fast for this movement, though difference in opinion is what helps propogate variety, and variety is what makes life worwth living.
seitengewehr98 1 year ago
0:52
Gilels singing haha?
skryabyn 1 year ago
How beautiful it must be to hear your music drift to heaven. A beauty so few can know. Rest in peace Mozart.
blushersthegreat 1 year ago
Hi. I already posted a comment, so I just whish to say that this piece is so well conducted. Wee done, maestro :D
igorhrncic 1 year ago
If you say you dislike the tempo you should realize that Gardiner goes to great great lengths to reproduce the way the composer, in the case Mozart, wanted it to sound. Using period instruments, following each marking on the page to the letter. Using ensemble sizes and arrangements that would've been used at the time. Listen to him do Beethoven's 5th.
ogolthorp 1 year ago 2
Who is that "beautiful" soprano next to Ann Sofie Van Otter!?!
MrRbibbs 1 year ago
@MrRbibbs I'm pretty sure that's Barbara Bonney.
Firestarjude 1 year ago
@Firestarjude Who is Billy the Kid's great^(4-or-5) grand-daughter.
molealto 9 months ago
Usually I'm considered a metal head and that would be true to a point. this is one of my favorite classical pieces.
radiostamen 1 year ago
wolfgang17561 1 year ago
True, bit fast. kills the morosity a bit.
SandrineSoprano 1 year ago
The tenor entry and tenor part is very dynamic, meaning he crescendos and decrescendos just perfectly to make the music... well, music. Also, the mezzo-soprano is very solid in her entry. Also, one thing I noticed is that in other videos of the same concert is that these soloists really take note on how it should be preformed; the mezzo-soprano in Laudamus te in Mozart's Great Mass in C minor is very energetic, and sings with great passion. Then the requiem is sung sorrowful and mournful.
SilenceTheQuiet 1 year ago
To fast to my point of feeling
RayWerber 1 year ago 2
Anthony Rolfe Johnson, 1940-2010. RIP, Anthony. You brought great joy to many of us, with your wonderful voice and musicianship.
MetzLorraine 1 year ago 7
"Tobo merom sporgens sonom". What a strange and awfull pronounciation by the bass. He sounds like an old truck...
sarastrosmin 1 year ago 11
@sarastrosmin LMAO at "an old truck"
Elainelps0421 1 year ago
@sarastrosmin The words are "Tuba mirem spargens sonum". The "bass" is probably a baritone pressed into the role for the occasion.
FRAGIORGIO1 6 months ago in playlist Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem D minor - K 626 4
@sarastrosmin
in my opinion, he has a very good pronunciation.
As Italian speaker and 8 years Latin student, I have to say that for an English speaker like him, his job on the pronunciation has been reaaly great.
uante 3 months ago in playlist Mozart - Requiem in D Minor
@sarastrosmin "Tuba, mirum spargens sonum "
Mtsh990 3 months ago
EXCELENTES INTERPRETES DE LA MUSICA MAS BELLA. ¡¡FELICIDADES¡¡
4908jorge 1 year ago
einfach nur der Hammer
jeanpaul20012 1 year ago
I adore the tenor entry. It's incredible.
adam4757 1 year ago 2
Like it, nice job, well done.
josjara 1 year ago
this is every tubaists favorite piece! :D
Khetodo 1 year ago
this is by far my favorite version of this piece ever. loving the authentic wind instruments.
eldwinwong 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this. I happen to be from Barcelona, living abroad, and this video made me remember my home.
This version is fantastic. Excellent voices, and orchestra. Difficult to beat.
llsererols 1 year ago
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theoammirata 2 years ago
that so wonderful! great!
721664836 2 years ago
hogwood is a poor guy if you know gardiner. he's just perfect!
Lutzenberger 2 years ago
The Hogwood Vesion is the perfect version. ARJ is clearly rushing some of the phrasing here. Not that the JEG version is without it's merits. His conductiong is crisp and clear and the orchestra is very tight.
lumenradio 2 years ago
Oh... if you mean, Hogwood, Acadamy of Ancient Music and Westminster Cathedral Choir - I sang on that as a Cathedral chorister back in 1984!
Both Gardiner and Hogwood are great! Surely, one can like both?! :-)
muscleboi4use 2 years ago
Very mozart. im sure mozart would be so happy if he'd be able to hear this. excellent performance. i lyk the idea of singing it by "heart" (memorized). i love this work so much. (^^,)
malvinbeethoven 2 years ago
I was under the impression that in Latin "g" is always pronounced hard, like in get, and never like a j, as in gel- yet the first soloist pronounces "spargens"and "regionum" with a clear j sound.
Is an exception made in music, or am I mixing up my rules?
1337BioticBastard 2 years ago
In Ecclesiastical Latin the consonants softened to sound more like the soft consonants found in modern Italian.
Rich0116 2 years ago
Ah, I see- thanks.
1337BioticBastard 2 years ago
You have to differ between italian-latin and german-latin.
In italian the G is pronounced 'j' when coming before e or i.
But when singin german-latin, you should always pronounce the g as in 'get'.
It's a matter of nationality of the composer.
Though for my taste, german-latin sounds awful.
heizukowsky 2 years ago
i like Barbara so much..............she is a real lovely woman
chemicalfreak10 2 years ago
can't take it seriously, lol, sorry :)
elvisheepofdoom 2 years ago
man it is latin right?
chemicalfreak10 2 years ago
Yes, it's in Latin. Requiems, with few exceptions (most notably Brahms') are written in Latin.
linuxwitch 2 years ago 2
it is heaven on earth wooooooooooow
can you translate please?
chemicalfreak10 2 years ago
I thought they were in italian
LucindaGoddess 2 years ago
MOZART you are super brilliant how a great prformance too
chemicalfreak10 2 years ago
MOSH! stupebit et natura :O
lol, what?
pomponi0 2 years ago
0:51 I think it's supposed to be Cum resurget stupebit nature or something. But your right. That bugs me a bit :-P
HerrWarja 2 years ago
It's actually Mors stupebit et Natura (Mors = Death)
Yeah, it made me giggle c:
pomponi0 2 years ago
I agree, for me it also feels a bit too fast. And the basso sounds as if he has to force his voice and it gets slightly aggressive. But nevertheless I love this trombone and especially the soprano soloist!
Moechtegernlerche 2 years ago
Does it say "Allegro" in the sheets?
HerrWarja 2 years ago
Haha, the urtext score has "Andante" marked... Alas, Andante can mean a variety of things. I wouldn't exactly consider this Andante, though. All of the tempos seem quite fast... Then again, Gardiner is a genius. He knows what he's doing.
Great soloists, great orchestra. It's nice to hear a more classical/baroque interpretation of a piece that so often gets a mildly romantic treatment. I honestly don't know which kind of performance I like better, but the variety is nice.
samuelhunterdotnet 2 years ago 2
wouldnt Woflgang have left some indication of the Andante tempo on the original manuscript. andante can mean many things to many conductors, but an originalmetronome or bar to the minute would be a good indication of how Wolfgang would have played it,
geisterbahn1 2 years ago
so what a shit basso profundo
szepremenyu 2 years ago
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szepremenyu 2 years ago
I love how the music fits in with the words so well.... ah, Mozart...
bassoonalto18 2 years ago
That Tenore is amazing
78625amginE 2 years ago
NJHanna 2 years ago
"cntd"
What then shall 1 say, wretch that I am,
What advocate entreat to speak for me,
When even the righteous may hardly be secure?
NJHanna 2 years ago
this is good but too fast
has no solemnity
see this conducted by Bernstein.
nfctp 2 years ago 5
You're so right, this section is too beautiful to be performed this fast.
wackyal3000 2 years ago 21
@wackyal3000 Actually this is the first version I have ever heard of this song. then I went and heard a slower version. that seemed to drag a little. I think it's all about opinion and what you heard first.
ketttr01 8 months ago
@wackyal3000 Actually this is the first version I have ever heard of this song. then I went and heard a slower version. that seemed to drag a little. I think it's all about opinion and what you heard first. like what you're used to hearing.
ketttr01 8 months ago
I agree! OMG!
HerrWarja 2 years ago
dramatic ,wonderful,magical Mozart!
geisterbahn1 2 years ago
i cant stop watching the soprano. truly beautiful in that the sense that beauty is opening youself up, allowing something beautiful to speak through you. Its remarkable. the tenor is the same way.
greenvballndc 2 years ago
These soloist are awesome. They each know what they are singing well and project that to the audience. I am doing the bass part May 12 and hope I do as well as this sololist did.
captcapella 2 years ago
that bass was epic^^ awesome beginning to the second movement!
amichan500 2 years ago
And now, Ladies and Gentlemen, the ignorant comment:
"wow where do they get these great singers? :P"
Thank You, I hope this comment has been both degrading and funny to whoever read it.
Goodnight
JahnosSardonis 2 years ago
Epic, made me smile.
gayhplover 2 years ago
The bass isn't on par with the other solists.
thiste 2 years ago 5
*sigh* so beautiful
78625amginE 2 years ago
mozart actually told his pupil if he died to write all this so the requiem was finshed by him but he didnt write it his pupil did but the ideas was from him
em0cut 2 years ago
The bass voice is bot dark enough.....
clymnestre 2 years ago 3
que bestia este baritono para cantar de esa forma!!! BRAVO!!
Julian21L 2 years ago
talk about a bass who "phones in" his performance... i'm totally bored watching him.... so bored i'm not even sure if he sang well... LOL oh jesus... they're all on ritilin! LOL
Philm54 3 years ago
I would think bass voice alone is not meant to be pleasant to the ear as it is very very low, but the beautiful of the bass voice is when it compliments the other voices...as is the case in this piece. I'll rate the bass voice very high. He sang as Wolfgang heard it in his head!
jajayi 2 years ago
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OOOO.. How wonderful it must be to know what Mozart had going on in his head! You are VERY special, aren't you? Do you "channel" other composers as well? Let me see.... Who else could I ask you about?
Philm54 2 years ago
I feel the same way, more your body to the music! Passion, or maybe...his dog was just run over, by a ice cream truck.
gayhplover 2 years ago 5
so beautifull...so sweet and same time very very powerfull
lucioscp 3 years ago
who's the trombonist?
Banaco6 3 years ago 5
wondering the same thing.
hondaccordriver 2 years ago 2
Wow, this is very different. .... ......
adamlovestrombone 3 years ago 2
Well its different Tastes ladies and Gentlemen but I think the Tempo is just fine
Leporello001 3 years ago 35
@Leporello001 I agree with this guy!
WindSpirit22 1 year ago
Bravo!!!!!!!!
helviodasilvabenicio 3 years ago 3
too Fast
dralder 3 years ago
dang... thats was pure voice!
TwinDusks 3 years ago 4
The seventh note on "sonum" that is.....
tk421jag 3 years ago
Is it me or did the 7th note he sang wavier just a tad flat or something?
tk421jag 3 years ago
this is live music sir, if you want purity go and buy the recording
nuyorkcitycops 3 years ago 2
The alto looks like one of the women in Modigliani's portraits--except real.
baldwalrus7 3 years ago
Die Solisten stehen da wie ausgestopft. Zieht dahinter einer an der Schnur, damit sie den Mund aufmachen??
augustviersen 3 years ago
sublime!!!
VSAYAX 3 years ago 6
the best!
RALsyatyou 3 years ago 4
molto bene. bravo Mozart!!!!!
LINZROQUE 3 years ago 2
The tempo is a joke. Its like looking at a sunset as you are driving. You get a quick glimpse but dont really have time to soak in the beauty. I wonder if the tempo is about the music or to get people talking about Gardiner himself. Well its worked we are talking about him not the music.
gmonkey808 3 years ago 3
For those wondering who the tenor is, it's Anthony Rolfe Johnson. Fantastic guy. Obviously flanked by the wonderful Barbara Bonney and Anne Sofie von Otter, though I don't know who the bass is. Personally I like this tempo, but as I've grown up with Gardiner's 1986 recording that's probably not surprising!
jas797 3 years ago
He is Alastair Mills
paleryder2 3 years ago
Hello Xavier, maybe this information could help you!!
The requiem Mass in D Minor was Mozart's last composition. Mozart left his Requiem Mass just until LACRIMOSA after this he died.
The Requiem was finished by his student Franz Xaver Sussmayr that is what I was told at Vienna Museum in Vienna!!
In Amadeus(film), when Salieri helps out Mozart with the Requiem, this was just a fantasy by the director Milos Forman.
DaRio
darioubilla007 3 years ago
Actually, Amadeus is a movie adaptation of a play by Peter Shaffer, which was itself inspired by a short play by Alexander Pushkin entitled "Mozart and Salieri". Shaffer himself adapted the movie. So, Forman really had nothing to do with the story, only its direction.
Mozart did leave a few sketches of the Domine Jesu Christe, and some of the later sections were just recapitulations of early material, but Sussmayr did have to compose quite a bit of original music.
evolve749 3 years ago
Unfortunately, the contrast between the Sussmayr material and the Mozart material is stark. That is what has kept the Requiem from being recognized as a complete choral masterpiece. Actually, the great C Minor Mass is closer. In any case, the story of Amadeus is largely fictitious as you well know.
evolve749 3 years ago
thanx i wish i knew as much as you do .
XAVIERCUERVO 3 years ago
I understand that Mozart was visited by death before he could finished this piece (Requiem) and that Salieri finished it . how far did Mozart get before he died in other words ,how much of it is Salieri and how much of it is Mozart ,I care because its my favorite from Mozart.
Any one care to tell ??
thank you .
XAVIERCUERVO 3 years ago
Sussmayr finished it, and if you look at the description of this clip it says he started at the Sanctus.
aclasse 3 years ago
Sussmayr orchestrated most of the Requiem (the orchestration of Mozart breaks off in the Kyrie), but he likely had sketches or Mozartean ideas nonetheless even in the pieces he composed, else there wouldn't be germ motives such as the bass line in the "Agnus Dei" which corresponds to the main theme from the "Introitus - Requiem aeternam". Gardiner is probably using a version with corrected and cleaned up orchestration by Franz Beyer, as usual among HIP conductors.
Nachtmarchen 3 years ago 4
Anyways, not really a fan of this part of Gardiner's requiem, the tempo is too fast, it's a bit too stiff imo - especially the trombone part, the bass isn't all that great either - the first few notes sound very, very forced - this is where Harnoncourt's most recent Requiem really shines, Gerald Finley is absolutely amazing here. I can but recommend this 2004 rendition of the Requiem to everyone, it's grave, expressive, but never operatic - an amazing, mature performance.
Nachtmarchen 3 years ago
I agree, the tempo is too fast
arturo00 3 years ago
what's the tenor name ? just love his voice!!
missousita 3 years ago
ace reir X D mola maxo xd me encanta!! XD que mierda viva pont aeri i no estas antiquall
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joshand08 3 years ago
I think that the soloists are fantastic...especially the timbre of the Tenor. However, the tempo is way to fast. I think the perect tempo was defined by Herbert von Karajan when the Berliner Philharmoniker did this piece in the 70's. Otherwise, fantastic!!!
aljazeerkazan 3 years ago 3
I agree with you 100% concerning the tempo; it's by a comfortable mile too fast. The solistst on the other hand are technically perfect but they don't touch my heart.
crossbike 3 years ago
I understand. A soloist shouldn't just sing the piece, but should try to interpret it in a way in which they are the character of which they play.
aljazeerkazan 3 years ago
Take into account, however, that these soloists are singing in a solemn piece of mourning and remembrance, and indeed the words to which they sing are incredibly serious. I think that classically, it is a convention to remain still while you sing - the voice is an instrument. Facial gestures coinciding with the words are important though.
WaffenKartoffel 3 years ago
completely agree with you about tempo. Seems every movement of this performance Gardiner is just determined to do too fast for comfort
fiordiligicymraeg 3 years ago
The soloist line-up is a dream! The tempo works for me and I suppose is determined by the first bass soloist phrase, which, if tempo would be any slower, would be impossible to sing in one breath.
fandango1111 3 years ago
Paata Burchuladze, the basse in Karajan's Mozart's Requiem was able to sing the phrase in one breath...as was the tenor Vinson Cole and the Mezzo-Soprano, Helga Muller-Molinari and the Soprano, Anna Tomowa-Sintow. If Karajan can take the tempo to a Langsam and the soloists can make one breath, then so can others. It just takes severe contraction with the diaphram and the lower abdominals. The soloists are amazing, no doubt, but the tempo is too fast to project a Requieme setting.
aljazeerkazan 3 years ago
this is in F major right?
necrosis90 3 years ago
I no like 415 tune, but its an interesting audition
Jakorako 3 years ago
Barbara Bonney (the soprano soloist) is by far my favourite soprano. A very beautiful voice and a very beautiful woman.
Beattietron 3 years ago
Ma stai zitto. I solitsti fanno veramente schifo.
antlerose 3 years ago
Gardiner è il solito pagliaccio. Ha impiastricciato tutto colle sue deficienze di tipo filologico. Ricordo una sua esecuzione del 1991 del Requiem: uno schifo da far vomitare.
antlerose 3 years ago
wish I can smash conductors head with 2x4 to slow fing down
nisau17 3 years ago
would u like to borrow mine sau
twotfruity17 3 years ago