Presidential Debate Oct. 19th Columbia University Nader, Barr, McKinney, Baldwin, McCain and Obama

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[weedipikia]

Interesting how this got almost no coverage.

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[hahaha2531]

lol

[mikeleeross]

well i guess Ron Paul is out? So what about this Baldwin guy anyone know about him?

[larma7]

Apparently, Baldwin and Nader are debating tonight on C-Span.

Baldwin is a constitutionalist, Christian conservative. Nader is a consumer advocate liberal.

I prefer Nader because he has a great track record!

[kalamazooboom]

Baldwin is an extreme christian conservative, not quite similar to Paul.

[TheJuggerN8]

Ron Paul endorses Chuck Baldwin for president. It was on the MSNBC ticker bar yesterday.

[stevemcgee99]

Ron Paul's platform and Baldwin's platform are about identical. There is very little difference. In fact, it's likely Paul would be part of a Baldwin administration.

Nader is very different than Paul.

BUT - Barr, Baldwin, McKinney and Nader all agree on the 4 POINTS:

1. End war immediately, bring all troops home

2. Balance the budget

3. Repeal PATRIOT, FISA, etc.

4. Audit/investigate the Federal Reserve.

The other issues would be quite different, but these 4 points are so significant!

[breezeman199]

There should be more opportunities for the third-party or independent candidates. The two establishment parties do not encompass all the range of political viewpoints of America.

[representativepress]

See my latest video: Debate Canceled

[larma7]

Who cancelled it???

You know, I've always been outspoken AGAINST Obama and certainly McCain, and I've always wanted them to open the debates, but now I see that none of these Third Party candidates seem to care!! I mean, what the fuck is going on??? Where is Nader here??? He should be THRILLED with this! He never even announced this on his website!!! What are these Third Party party candidates doing??? I even compelled to just support Obama to keep the neo-cons out, unless Nader gets serious.

[crashoppe]

Here's the REAL DEAL. all us peasants are broke and got stuck with a trillion dollar plus tax hike for the bail out. so we don't have the moeny. big bissiness, banks and the government claim thay don't have the money... SO WHERES ALL THE MONEY??? it didn't just magically disappear. vote 3rd party and let them know we are not yet ready to be the stupid, obdeiant debt slaves they wish to control.

CHUCK BALDWIN '08!!!!!!

[larma7]

Why isn't Third Party serious about this then???

[crashoppe]

they are. but unlike the Republicrats, they do not get funding from tax dollars and campain contributions from corporate pigs, special intrest groups and lobbists. those are not the people they are fighting for. they fight for the country and the people. so they cant afford all the adds and the government doesnt allow them to join in the debates. chech out Ron Paul videos. economists, etc. and most of us "little guys" respect and love what he says.

[larma7]

Trust me. I've followed Ron Paul for a long time now. And I love Gravel! And I understand what you mean.

It just seemed that the Third Party candidates aren't trying to get this debate thing to happen . . .

[crashoppe]

yes, i understand. perhaps the 3rd party is there as a ploy to make the Rats seem genuine. maybe once we stop voting for the 3rd partys altogether is "their" signal that the peasants have become completely submissive. i honestly dont know. i DO wish i had all the answers.

[larma7]

Well . . . I don't believe entirely in what you seem to be implying, but yes, I do think a vote for Third Party is useful.

A lesser of two evils is still an evil.

[may141986]

The debate was rescheduled to take place tomorrow night in Washington. I email all news media about covering this. Currently only PBS responded I gave them a contact name and have yet to hear if they will be attending. You can listen to this debate live on rtrradio . com will air it live on the Internet and Radio. Thats all I know for now.

[rayharryhausen6]

So, it didn't happen this past Sunday night? I thought the one tomorrow was a second one.

Phew, that's good news! And no wonder I couldn't find coverage of it anywhere!

[segits]

thanks for letting me know about this....i'll try to watch it from over here; if unable to, then it would be great if i could see it here on utube. 3rd Party Yeah!

[Amebixfan]

Will this be on any Canadian Channel (like CPAC?)

[NYCRaiIRevolution]

This is a scam--there never was a debate planned at Columbia for this weekend.

You twoofers are all suckers.

Dotn beleive me?

Visit Naders, McKinneys, Baldwins or Columbia U's OR C-SPNAS websites...search events.

it is all a scam -

SUCKAS

[chjoezen]

In an email to supporters, Ralph Naders campaign announced: Also, you might have heard that there were plans to have a third party debate this coming Sunday in New York.

It was a good idea, with good energy behind it, but unfortunately it apparently is not going to happen this Sunday. We send our thanks and gratitude to those who made the effort. It took a lot of logistics, planning and coordination.

But in the end, with the timeline and candidates schedules, it just didnt work out.

[chjoezen]

Barr had canceled previously and I think Nader felt that Balwin and McKinney were worth his time.

[chjoezen]

Correction: were not worth his time

[chjoezen]

I also feel displeasure seeing that Nader seems to really focus his attacks on Obama and Barr. Every other candidate seems to make no matter to him. It's like he wants McCain to win. But as I have said before, perhaps this is a good strategy. Allow Republicans to win yet again so they can hang themselves and destroy the Republican foundation of the two party system. But then again, how long and how much chaos will it take before that happens?

[darktrayu2]

Theft of the 2008 Election Part 2 <---watch this vid very important.

[le0pardess]

obenya and mcshame are cowards that hide behind an army of jackboot thugs to keep from having to face the real voice of Americans.

[representativepress]

I just posted an update video to this video

[bebop54]

gaaaawd....

i've been tryin' to tell as many as possible ...

people aren't even aware that there are 6 candidates runnin' .....

but they are still 'LISTENIN' to the 2 clowns ....

not researchin' ...

[rumpelstillskin65]

my senator mitch mcconnell voted yes bailout he has lost my VOTE everyone else needs to do the same find who your congressman and senators are and vote them out get a sign for who is running agianst them put it in your yard and lets vote these crooks out of office and dont forget OBAMA / MCCAIN WHO BOTH VOTED FOR IT(VOTE NADER)a vote for nader is a vote NO for new world order/CFR go to CAMPAIGNFORLIBERTYdotORG Then click "states" and click on your state.see who voted for the bailout

[aires12345678]

write in ron paul

[HughieGphiladelphia]

Why would write in Ron Paul when you could Vote for Ralph Nader...come on now!

[representativepress]

even Ron Paul himself is saying don't do that as far as a writing him in. He has suggested voting for someone other than McCain and Obama. He recently said he endorses Baldwin BUT I do not recommend you vote for him either. I think the best choice is Nader. I asked Nader about Sunday (I should get that video up on YouTube in a timely fashion) We should let Nader know that we really want to see him at the debate on Sunday.

[bebop54]

i like nader too ...

ideally a new coalition with paul AND nader .....

and the others who remember that this USED to be a country ....

[HughieGphiladelphia]

This is GREAT! Lets get the word out!

[h2opower]

I was really wanting a debate that was of all the people running for President, for that is the way it should always be so the American people have all the facts to base their choice on. I will watch this debate too, for I am looking at Nader and McKinney to choose from. Not too sold on Barr, even to concider him at the moment and Baldwin was there when the Contra affair was happening so he is also not being cocidered.

[Vercingetorix1313]

sometimes i wish i believed in nothing this election would be easier to swallow.

[AssilemakaMelissa]

Yes Amy Goodman is the moderator. I really have respect for her.

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[slammah2012]

Chuck Baldwin 2008....

[womblefree]

Man i got to digg this, this is what i believe is change McCain and Obama are to entwined with corporate capitalism for them to show up but Obama did say he will debate anyone? i just hope the format is right but i know Amy Goodman will be a good moderator becuase she knows her stuff.

[voteDRNO]

Chuck Baldwin 08

[OmnibusWhiteLion]

6 pres idential candidates? the two after barak obama and john mccain are new to me, now there is 2 more. who are they?

[jdtrickster4]

Actually there are more than 6. There's like 10 different candidates from various parties that are running for the presidency but the Main Stream Media, or MSM is not interested in letting the American people know this or who they are because these candidates aren't bought and paid for by their master/owners. They only publicize and back up their party:

The DemopliCON Party; a.k.a. The REPOcrits:

Same horse, different color.

[slammah2012]

Chuck Baldwin -- Constitution Party

Bob Barr -- Libertarian Party

John McCain -- Republican Party

Cynthia McKinney-- Green Party

Ralph Nader -- Independent

Barrack Obama -- Democratic Party

[h2opower]

Chuck Baldwin didn't name is not on my ballot, here in CA.

[h2opower]

Oops, his name is not on my ballot is what I meant.

[jetmech1128]

Write him in then.

[sandyg1955]

NO mass media coverage on this one i guess. Hey you Columbia students...you have a history in getting publicity for a worthwhile cause..well here's your chance.This is the biggest worthwhile cause for you to draw attention to since Vietnam...anybody got any ideas? Non violent of course.

[Sam666gelber]

I want to run this by you to see if it's true. It looks like the only confirmed participant at the moment is the moderator Amy Goodman. Is that true?

[surfprince5]

1:05-1:08

lol

[Vercingetorix1313]

a record year for write ins...you people are the real thing the two party system is the illusion.

[Dt0x75]

Its going to be on CSPAN? Well I usually fall asleep with CSPAN on, but I will have to watch this.

[EngineeringMath]

come on man,

mccain and barack? they will never show up man, are you crazy? how can they debate with nadar?

[WulfBand]

AWESOME & the 19th is MY BIRTHDAY :)

It's gonna be good :)

[katey1dog]

Now that Obama has now surpassed McCain in the polls. Perhaps it is now safe to vote for a third party. Though Obama must defeat McCain hands down, it is still up for thought.

[mota307]

what you just said, is exactly what mccain is hoping for !

and if heaven forbid, obama loses by a small margin, well ... then, i guess you and the rest of the world are stuck with John and maybe even WWIII. maybe a bit realism ?!?!?

[katey1dog]

Understood. With a vote for Bob Barr perhaps a vote will be drawn away from McCain. But I digress. It was merely an idea and not a plan. I'll stick with Obama.

[slammah2012]

Is there no such thing as a "Coalition Government"????

Where 2 or more parties combine their seats to form a majority???

[bebop54]

absolutely ....funny i was just writin' that & i try to talk to people about this idea too ...

there are some good people runnin' ( although one would never know it !) ..

how' bout a coalition of all NON-CFR & no AIPAC ....lol ...wouldn't THAT be nice !

[slammah2012]

a simple Coalition of the Non voter would take Majority...

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

Nader is the man! And I love Cynthia too.

[WOLF333999]

Suggestion: Ron Paul as moderator. (Maybe that would mean he ends up dominating the debate and will talk for 90 minutes straight, but that's fine with me.)

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

Um, Paul dropped out eons ago.

What is it about him that makes you people never shut up about him?

[elboertjie]

The more you listen to him speak, the more you are captivated by the sweetness and simplicity of truth.

[WOLF333999]

You don't have to be a presidential candidate to be a moderator at a debate between presidential candidates. Anyway, take it easy; I was writing sort of tongue-in-cheek, though I must say RP as moderator is really a good idea. Why RP supporters can't shut up about him? Um, because we think he speaks truth to power and can teach people what the real issues are. Here's another name: Ross Perot. Genius.

[slammah2012]

I think the Rebublicans and Democrats should allow Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich to answer the hard questions for them....

[WOLF333999]

Good idea. Obama and McCain can only attempt to answer those (real) questions by staring into space and after a minute or so start to vent smoke and then they would irrevocably collapse due to malfunctioning hard drives. Diebold can't have that happen to its expensive equipment.

[bebop54]

i think the republocrats should join the circus & let kucinich & paul take the job of runnin' the country ..

along with nader , baldwin , mckinney & a few others ....

a shame that carlin ain't still around to join them !

[MyhardPwner]

Lol, at least we wouldn't hear 90 minutes of lies. :)

[cspanjunkievideo]

Awesome!!!!!!

[nasanction]

Thanks for the heads up! I'll be watching...

[1876alamo]

Thanks for posting this

[banemaler]

It will be televised? Really?!? Thank God for CSPAN.

Of course the Dems and the Reps aren't showing up, they are cowards and it would only cause them to legitimize a third party ticket. They would be doing a real service to their country by participating. This wouldn't make those bankers very happy though.

[dellsprospects22]

as a person i like cynthia but nader has more experience..she's got more time

[rapzeh2]

I don't think its gonna happen... Nader in the same room whit Obama and McCain ? I wish...

[dellsprospects22]

why does mccain have to be there..and why can't we just exclude obama and mccain for endorsing the bailout..barr hasn't confirmed when i called either (he voted for the patriot act so he might not wanna answer that question)

[numba1stunna4269]

YES! This Rocks!

[chjoezen]

I would love to see that one. Thanks for the heads up.

[RedStarRevolver26]

Great. Now I get to watch a real debate.

[chrisstorvik]

representativepress, I heard that both obama and mccain were both disqualified from being voted in texas because they didn't get their crap together in time and that bob barr is the only candidate that will appear on the ballots. Is this still the case or did them lobbyists do some shit so that those 2 can still be elected in Texas?

[darko2112]

(OBAMA)(MCCAIN)= 2 Cheeks of the SAME ASS !

[campaign4liberty]

this Ron Paul supporter campaigns for Ralph Nader

[miksajlo]

It was sad to see how those two guys are completely irrelevant. They are debating like the empire is going to live for next 1000 of years.

Nobody even mention the pentagon budget that bleeds US to death.

It is also interesting how much American public is sharply divided between those to candidates, like they really have a choice between yes and yes, no and no while the country is going down the toilet and nobody even mentioned that issue in this debate.

Same old illuminati deception.

[UnderseaCaveman]

Bob Barr has been all-over-the-place over his political career....NO CONSISTENCY AT ALL! No wonder people don't trust! He was a horrible choice as the LP candidate (as bad a choice as McCain picking Palin)....

Ron Paul endorses Chuck Baldwin!

[t4705mb6]

There is NO WAY that this will ever happen. McCains and Obamas handlers (the fascist bosses) will NEVER allow actual ISSUES to be brought up in ANY debate. It would DESTROY the US Nazi party.

It is secret agreements between the Obama & McCain camps (the ONE fascist party) that keeps ALL "other" candidates from debates. The mass media is run by the fascists. That is why you never hear them complain about the election being rigged....which it is.

In fact, its not even an "election".

[RevolutionaryJam]

Barr vs. Nader would also be a great debate

[Matey3]

this is disgusting that we're stuck with these 2 ppl as the candidates. The good ones were kicked out of the race by the zionist bastards owned media! should've been Ron Paul and other real ppl running like Clinton. this Bum is a zionist clown, boy I bet when this idiot gets to be the prez the price of crack is gonna fall. McCain is OK but Bum-ma is crap! wake the stupid ppl up the country is down in hell hole!

[xExUxBxExRx]

C-SPAN is way better than any Mainstream clusterfuk of News outlets.

[anyusmoon1]

Hi xexuxbxexrx (love typing that nick :-)

I dunno if I'd go so far as to say WAY better, but it is the only channel (except for my occasional guilty pleasure cable and PBS shows) I watch.

Little known fact: Cable television stations, nation wide, are REQUIRED by Federal law to operate and produce public access t.v.. I believe CSPAN is the 'national' version of that mandate.

These requirements stem from Federal funding and cable laying access. (not verified)

[befranklintoo]

debate? more like negate. the parties are gone.

we need a all new government.

[LayneRoxxx]

There needs to be more of a unified front when it comes to independent candidates.

A "Ron Paul" push from at least one of these candidates should have happened MONTHS ago!

The internet was not used effectively by any of these candidates and it sickens me.

[Demlar]

Ron Paul did he Endorsed Chuck Baldwin.

[tsnreBob]

YES!

[marcusborg83]

Yes, he endorsed Chuck Baldwin

[LayneRoxxx]

I know that, but where is the support? Where is the internet push?

When it needed to be there....there was nothing. All that is left is two bought and paid for big money candidates that are there for one reason only...to stay the course.

Obama?....stays the course as you will watch and see....

[bigmoney714]

these other guys should give up. OBAMA will win. They are what we need but they have no chance. these other guys should get out door to door and educate people instead of wasting time fighting each other. The only way Americans win is if everyone is educated on the real issues. We must get new people in Congress. America get off your ass and get out in ur towns and let ppl know what is up. Spread the word

[xesiria]

Yeah the so called two party candidates need scripted debates and the corporations/bankers that own them won't let them show up. i would watch the debate but, i don't get CNN.

[GnosticDjinn]

C-Span even? I'm sure someone out there, if you ask nice enough, would be capable of ripping the debate into a torrent for you to download in some sort of common movie format in a moderate and high quality file. Because I'm probably going to do it anyway.

[DissentDispute]

C-span has a You Tube channel that uploads many videos already, so they might be uploading the debate after its taken place.

[GnosticDjinn]

Yeah I know, but somethings I like to have on my computer.

[xesiria]

Yeah i don't have cable but, i will try to check in out. I will see what i can do. Just won't down load anything on my PC since i have one of my best friends and a colleague fix this 3 year plus problem.

Anyways it's not like the two other puppets in the so called two party system will be there.

[DissentDispute]

There was a gentleman, George Farrah from OPEN DEBATES on C-Span's Washington Journal just the other day and every single call praised his efforts. I only hope this is the beginning of the end of this corrupt two-party system and the media's love affair with the weak donkeys and skinny elephants.

[F4O4U4R4S]

CNN might have a brief 2 second mention of the debate but probably not even 1 second of it will make it to the anchors desk. Because the American big media is entirely corrupt.

[theroseofsharon47]

Sure looks that way!

[DissentDispute]

I knew C-Span would pull this off!!

[GnosticDjinn]

Because C-Span is... still trying to give people the news.

Instead of just trying to entertain us and make the ratings.

[representativepress]

ask youtube to feature this video.

at least to put it on the youchoose page

[DissentDispute]

how do you ask You Tube to do that?

[RationalLiberty]

c-span, amy goodman, columbia university?

Wow-this is gonna be good.

Any MSM coverage of this landmark clash of the titans? No i suspect not.

[DissentDispute]

yeah we'll see if the same exact questions are asked, as happened in the last 3 debates. I never heard a new question proposed, although each moderator claims THEY chose the actual questions and no one had read them before hand.

[swanseaboy]

I can see Obama and Mccain not turning up, so the media will just boycott it and the public will still be non the wiser to the choices they really have.

I really hope that doesn't happen.

[AssilemakaMelissa]

I am so excited to finally see a real debate! Lat nights final debate between Obama and McCain was another scripted joke and I am ready to hear some real issues addressed and actually answered without the usual prefab rhetoric as a response.

[lorri37]

Thanks for promoting this debate for ALL the candidates. Can't wait to see it. Maybe there will be decent questions and answers, too. Will repost your video on my blog.

[rodneykingstrikesbck]

"Barr only wants to debate Nader..."

That's the funniest thing I have ever heard.

I wonder what they would have to say about the CIA and Air America since they both were around and Barr was part of the infamous organization when they committed the deed.... Not that they have ceased their activities... There is good stuff coming out of Afghanistan these daze.

At least that's what I've heard...

[ratonnewmex]

please unblk me rod....plz?

[rodneykingstrikesbck]

Do you think you can maintain? You were getting pretty nasty there...

[ratonnewmex]

Rod....it is hard to maintain when look AT THIS ONCE GREAT LAND!!!! LOOK AT THE TOILET IT HAS BECOME! I AM MAD...MAD AS HELL...but, geez, give me one more chance. plz?

[rodneykingstrikesbck]

I know what you mean. I have been watching the decline probably a lot longer than you. I do think that the aggression/insult was vented directly at me through for no apparent reason. Just take it easy on the personal attacks. I know I am one to talk but typically mine are well placed ;)

[ratonnewmex]

alright...alright....my tail is already bein' smooshed in between my legs...geez

[dandaman2206]

Finally a debate that doesn't have the same side of 2 coins...I'm hoping Barr will take some Names...Or Nader...I'm hoping Barr though.

[TiradeFaction]

Of course McCain and Obama won't show, but I'm glad there will finally be a presidential debate that will actually be worth watching! And this shows how shitty Barr is if he doesn't want to debate anymore than one individual.

[berrypievision]

Barr is just as bad as McCain and Obama.

[alby711]

i just cant trust a guy who thinks the patriot act would ever be effective. even if he changed his position, to me its a no brainer you vote "Nay" or at least "Present"

[berrypievision]

I think voting present is worse than nay. That's what Obama has done, for example.

[TiradeFaction]

You're right, but Obama actually voted Yea on the patriot act.

[berrypievision]

Well I know that.

[TiradeFaction]

Well he obviously doesn't give a shit about civil liberties, and is just masquerading because the republicans took his district from him.

[TiradeFaction]

I agree.

[Adxcx]

When is the debate gonna be broadcast on C-SPAN? Is it going to be broadcast live?

[ratonnewmex]

so true...i love this comment. sure don't know why it got hands down. it is the sodom and g show! boy, the U.S. has turned into Halloween 365 x a yr!

[ratonnewmex]

yeah...you mean Clinton talking into Obamas ear piece the next 4yrs? is that what cha mean?

[bulldogger]

McCain and Obama won't show lol.

[edAVP1138]

SWEET!!!!!!!

I was always hoping that they would have a third party debate.

[miamiya]

This is great! I have been hoping for this too. I have always wanted to hear Nader debate the Dem and Repb. I wish that I could vote for him without fearing that McCain would win if I did.