Run Small Lawnmower engine on 100% HHO gas

[ney299]

friend live in Brazil I am starting to make a hydrogen generator projetros. tell us how you did this project for hydrogen? you know some way to compress the hydrogen gas? awaiting response.

[MrOverdriver]

2cycle engine takes cylinder lubrification oil from gasoline...how do you lube the cylinder?

[AlanComek]

@MrOverdriver Need a 4stroke, man.

[aterack833]

THAT. WAS . AWSOME . do it again and i must know your cell design , whats your mmw , also (this ones hard ) take it down to only 2 plates , measure the lpm constant , then make the same plates of gold , or at least coper sheeting , and if you dont get more hho then you will use less power and compare the mmw between the 2 metals , for consanistancy use the same water , and then if you like the results , swich to full coper , its resistance is so much lower that you should get around 30-50 mmw

[aterack833]

i see you not using a dry cell and i appreciate that , can you send me a inside pic or a diagram on how yours was made , my mower runs on propane no problem but i need to make a hho generator and i dont want to sacrifice my fish tank` i made a washer cell and it blew up massively , my living room was soaked and there was plastic and nails every ware , but i need a better more portable design then mine and yours looks great

[OldRangeRat]

Meyer's research lead him to (K.I.S.S. After he learned the secrets of HHO) the 'water splitter plug.' If the 'water splitter' cracked just 0.5cc of H2O inside a cylinder compressed with ambient moist air, the heat of the cracking would probably crack and then burn all the water vapor near the initially cracked H2O. So why does everybody focus on his electrolysis process?

[MrRuzo214]

How many liters per minute of hho to run a small engine like this one??

[davenportmt]

i dont see how. you mean this thing runs on 100% HHO? no gasoline? because thats a 2cycle engine and i dont see how it hasnt locked up yet? where does it get the oil from to lube the cylinder walls and keep the temp down? even at that you still have crank bearings to lubricate....

[aterack833]

@davenportmt i dont know about 2 strok but my 4 stroke ran oil less (litterly dry) for about 5 minutes at full throtle , the i restarted for another 2 min before i realized it had no oil and i seized it (sad sad day) i acualy cryed

[jmueller82]

@aterack833 an interesting point about that; at Stihl School we ran two machines without oil in the fuel, a brand new saw and a saw well past break in. The saw that was new melted the piston within 7 minutes. the older saw ran for over 45 minutes before it died the first time. We never got it to lock up that day.

What we learned is that because aluminum is porous, higher grade oils with a higher quantity of brights will keep an engine lubricated longer. Sorry about your loss.

[interstategar]

so how would this work? You would strap a hydrogen tank to your back with hydrogen fuel lines into the motor? Which is cheaper gasoline or hyrdrogen?

Sure any ICE will burn hydrogen, but whats the economic comparison between these 2 fuel? The US is loaded with natural gas, why not just power all our ICE with natural gas?

[rcmoot]

carry that out to the yard.

[billysgeo]

There is no doubt that hydrogen can be used in ICEs as a fuel!!!

But HHO can't be used as a gasoline additive to improve milage!!!

[falsehopehero]

@billysgeo lol wut? yes it can.

[Xero555000]

@falsehopehero lol wut? can't run cars on water...

[Kep2078]

Notice how huge bubler is needed))) +, even thus is not enough to run this little motor steadily while just idling, he always turns the tap, and the pressure during this time reduced. Аppears at the end of video motor just stalled when the valve was opened fully... I think this is impossible, the idea is dead in the bud =))

[davidsili]

Do you think it would be possible that that same engine generates the necessary amperage to run the process of making the HHO?

[Me102288]

@davidsili I do, because I'm running one.. retard the timing and you dont get flashbacks... my lawnmower runs a 2 kilowatt permanent magnet alternator, the hho generating runs at 180 watts.

[davidsili]

@Me102288 Thanks for your reply

The only thing that confuses me is that I can't seem to find in this video how the lawnmower engine is connected to the HHO generator. I see clearly that it is 100% run on HHO (which it receives from the generator) - I have no problem in believing that. It's just that I don't seem to find how it is generating the power for the HHO generator?

Me102288 - do you have some material about how you customized your lawnmower?

[Me102288]

@davidsili no customization. retard the timing until its stops backfiring, and dont block the intake to the carb. the hose should be a lil away from the intake so the engine sucks the hho, guy with a hho torch did that with a chainsaw, you can hear the difference in vacuum near the carb lol sounds like talking against a fan blade.Anyway your not far off just dont seal the carb off an engine, thats how the maintain its vacuum hehe kinda the principle of drafting :-o

[xxxyyyraptor]

for running only on hho you need to change ignition for 80 degrees, and it's better to use 4 cycle engine 'cause adjusment is easy and lubrication doesn't depend on fuel...

[Kep2078]

Обратите внимание какой здоровенный нужен бульбулятор))) + даже его не хватает, чтобы этот моторчик на холостом ходу стабильно работал, он постоянно подкручивает кран, а давление в это время понижается, жаль дальше не показали, скорее всего этот моторчик тупо заглох при полностью открытом кране горелки... вот такие дела =))

[isaiahjames1978]

id just like to knowthe amperage

[thegreatkoua]

just take too much energy to make hho to run a small engine. that mean it work but not the best solution.

[ChickenHater550]

damn!!! that thing sounds like it has a turbo charger on it!

[poweredBYGDK]

@STORMCAT06 well that's becouse gasoline has a very big amount of energy in a very small volume, for the energy of 1L of gasoline you would need a tank of 90L full with HHO at 25atm.. (thats 2250L at 1atm) to generate that amount of HHO yould would need electric energy, when the alternators are connected to a load, they are much harder to spin, so the engine consumes more energy to spin the alternators.

[Me102288]

@poweredBYGDK wow are you ever backwards dude. Eistein said 30 mililiters of water has the equivelant energy to 30 MILLION gallons of gasoline.. Might want to read up on your chemical charts hehe, hydrogen burns almost 100x faster then gasoline, meaning you need LESS hho then gasoline to fuel the same engine..

[7777dmith7777]

LOL !!!! She sounds a bit dry mate !! Last I checked you needed oil mixed with the fuel at a 50:1 ratio when running a two stroke weed wacker engine !!

[theoneagain]

takes too much energy to produce hho

[vox1philippines]

BIG YES!!!!!

[kdkinen]

cOOl.

nice work man

[cw3849]

There appeared to be a small fire or ignition flare when you shut it off the first time? what was that and/or what was it caused from?

[MtnXfreeride]

@cw3849 i thought that was from giving it too much hydrogen, not shutting it off.

[dansmith57]

hydrogen can't be used in 'every' engine as it is so small it will pass through the metal. The materials need to be specially made to handle hydrogen. If you put hydrogen in your normal car it can crack any non-treated metal it comes into contact with - so be careful of your liners, pistons, cylinder head - basically the majority of what your engine is made of!

[AfghanKnight007]

guys the problem is not that if we can run an engine with hho. The real problem is that we dont know how to produce enough hho with lower inputs.

[spaceshipearth999]

why are we concerned with hho, given there is no storage sloution and production is a waste of the initial input electricty

therefore ultracapacitors are the future

[dman7577]

@spaceshipearth999 utracapacitors are made of very rare and expensive metals....doesnt sound very cost efficient to me.

[harryfodder]

the timing curve for normal gasoline isn't the same as HHO and thus why it idles alright, but cuts out when you increase the rpm's.

[joelzx6r08]

the only application I can think for HHO is to boil water in a steam engine. Other methods for mechanical power has been loud from turbines to lawn mower engines.

[lordm13]

There is 2 stroke engins which mix oil by themselves-like bike engins

[moss1transcendant]

there is a 4 stroke engine out there which is small but expensive.

[dman7577]

What do you think most 5 hp gocart engine are?? There not expensive at all.

[JHx86]

it would be better to do this on a 4 stroke engine because then you dont have to mix any oil

[ShutterbugW]

hmm eh er, you need to add some kind of lubricant as hat is an oil mix engine..the engine will have a very short life if it takes a mixture

[Chewylu103]

As far as this goes, yes i believe its a waste of energy because the engine has no altenator but as far as an automobile goes as long as you keep adding water when it needs it, it will run the engine which inturns runs the altenator, as long as you keep up with the water its perpetual.

[hydrohobbyist]

Yes the world is saved...NOT, Lets use loads of electricity to make a little bit of energy to run in a 5HP engine that runs at 50% efficiency. Eureka!!!

I hope you can sense my sarcasm.

[Turbojeep23]

if its a 2 stroke its not going to last long without oil. oh well, its always fun to watch an engine grenade itself.

[sleepwalker29]

@Turbojeep23 Your statement is stupid. Putting oil in the engine has nothing to do with fuel. The fuel and oil don't go in the same place, so if you did''t know that, how are you suppose to catch on to this. I bet you don't know how to check a dip stick.

[Turbojeep23]

@sleepwalker29 dude, its a 2 stroke weed eater engine. the way 2 strokes operate, they need oil mixed with the fuel. on a 2 stroke, the fuel/oil mix is drawn into the crankcase when the piston moves up, then as the piston comes down, the intake port closes and the transfer ports open. the fuel is transferred into the cylinder from the crankcase via the transfer ports.

there is no crankcase oil on a 2 stroke since the oil in the fuel lubes everything as it passes through the engine.

[11039078]

@Turbojeep23 Turbojeep23 is right, oil is mixed with oil. The confusion maybe to do with where/when its mixed. Weed eaters and other small 2T often need the oil mixed with fuel as its put in the tank, others such as motorcycles sometimes have a separate oil tank which is injected as the fuel enters the carb. Either way, oil is mixed with the fuel and is then burned - No dipsticks involved here.

The only other place i can think that might be confused with is gearbox oil, but thats another topic.

[Turbojeep23]

@sleepwalker29 why do you think weedeaters need 2 stroke oil mixed with the fuel? know what your talking about before you try to say someone is stupid, because you just made yourself look like an idiot.

and for the record, i've rebuilt a few 2 stroke engines, 550 twin, 600 twin, 580 twin, and im going to do a 900 triple soon. ive also rebuilt a chevy 307 V8 and a jeep 4.0L I6 and a couple briggs motors. i think i can handle the simple task of checking the oil level in a 4 stroke.

[sleepwalker29]

@Turbojeep23 Your still stupid talking to yourself here comment after comment. Yes, 2 stroke do mix gas and 2cycle oil, but the motor oil goes in a different place, and not in the gas tank. All of this still has nothing to do with hydrogen dumbass! I rebuilt a 70cc Honda bike when I was 9. Removed the tank, and carb to clean, and put it all back together, BFD!

[Turbojeep23]

@sleepwalker29 the second comment was actually a continuation of the first.

if the oil in a 2stroke isnt mixed in the fuel where does it go? if it was oil injected, would it have a separate reservoir for oil. if its not oil injected, like a weed eater, the fuel and oil is mixed in the gas tank.

my first comment did have to do with the hho. if its running on hho, how is oil getting to it? its not mixed with the fuel, and i dont see an oil pump or reservoir. which means its not getting any oil

[sleepwalker29]

@Turbojeep23 You better check your weed eater bro. There is a seperate place for oil by itself on all 2stroke and 4stroke engines, Lawnmowers, dirtbikes, etc. My electric air compressor has oil. This oil I'm talking about lubercates rods, cranks, rings, and such. There is usually a cheep plastic dip stick attached to the oil resavoir lid, or opening. 2cycle oil only lubercates the piston rings, it dosen't go anywhere else.

[sleepwalker29]

@sleepwalker29 OK 2cycle oil also lubercates the floats in the carb, my bad!

[amos033]

@sleepwalker29 It's ok, just put some 2 Cycle Oil in your HHO bubbler and then see what happens. Use the same ratio as you do with petrol. But be very careful, I did not like that backfire I saw in that video.

[sleepwalker29]

@amos033 It's OK! I think you missed the entire point of the experiment. Video says 100% HHO

[Turbojeep23]

@sleepwalker29 the oil mixed in the fuel lubes the crank and its bearings, needle bearings, rings and cylinder as it travels through the engine WITH the fuel. 2 strokes have NO other oil in them. `your air compressor, doesnt operate like a 2 stroke at all, which is why it has an oil reservoir and a dipstick.

you really need to understand the principals of a 2 stroke before you go running your mouth on the internet.

[sleepwalker29]

@Turbojeep23 Look at a 2stroke dirt bike and tell me it dosen't have oil in the crank, on the points. Etc. If you know the rout of fuel you would know that the rods, are under the piston, and never see fuel, and so are a bunch of other parts.Fuel is sprayed in the intake, where it goes to the piston, fuel does not go through the entire engine, so you need straight oil for lubercation. (go carts, dirt bikes, chainsaws, lawnmowers) So You really don't know how to check the dipstick, can't find it!

[Turbojeep23]

@sleepwalker29 there is NO oil in the crankcase of a 2 stroke dirtbike. the oil you are referring to is for the transmission, which is sealed off from the crankcase since a 2 stroke cannot have oil in the place where the fuel is inducted through.

like ive said before, ive rebuilt quite a few 2 strokes and torn down many more than that. i know 2 strokes inside and out. dont underestimate me.

go use google before trying to prove someone wrong.

[sleepwalker29]

@Turbojeep23 You had to use google. LOL Oil is oil dude! Yes transmission have oil but its all the same, just different weights, for its application, when you recycle it they poor transmission oil, AKA fluid, engine oil, brake fluid, all in the same container. You just can't put antifreeze in. So that proves all oil is the same but different weights. Running out of room to type here.

[Turbojeep23]

@sleepwalker29 no, i can honestly say i did not google anything. i was suggesting you use it before you try to be a smartass.

your missing the point, you suggested that the trans oil in a dirtbike is also for the crankcase of the engine. it is not, on a 2 stroke dirtbike the crankcase is sealed off from the trans. the dipstick is for checking the trans oil. the oil in the fuel is the only thing that lubes the engine, which is why 2 strokes have a shorter life than 4 strokers.

[superdanie972]

good test movie on HHO

[losttreasurehunt]

making hydrogen takes alot current to produce .making pure hydrogen storing it then using it is the ticket 12volts is good for a small system maybe to give more mpg.Make 2 large bladders one over the other have ,a outlet in top of the upper bladder for the hydrogen gas outlet .More bladders better the gas ,bladders need to be at least a gallon .

[trappy77]

Whoever doubted you could run an engine on browns gas must have been asleep for the last 35 years. This stuff has been known about for well over 200 years now. Do it with no loss in energy and you will have accomplished something.

[mymessagetomark]

how are u lubricating the engine?

[JHx86]

if only he was using a four stroke engine then he wouldn't need to worry about lubrication.

[dynomania]

Hey why don't you bypass all that chemical wizardry & run an electric motor instead ?

[saskcat9]

@dynomania come on, what fun would that be. how efficient is an electric motor?

[kdkinen]

your house looks like heaven

[ExtremeHydrogenLabs]

run for a while lets watch it lock up...or even better grenade lol

[SeriousNot]

Have you heard of Slick 50 Engine Treatment? My friend has a Briggs and Stratton demo engine with the whole side made of clear plastic so you can see inside. It runs with no oil in the crankcase and has done so for a long time.

[kratomosphere]

Check out Energy Release too.

[chevey25]

Have you figured how much volume it would take to supply a lets say a v8 5 liter 240 hp engine? Or would the cell have to be huge?

[uawwildbob]

cant . ya neen a water injector and a plasma generator and a HHO generator then your in bissness. if big oil dont kill ya

[PoisonJoviRocker]

The problem is it isn't practical. Say if someone designed a cell that was lightweight, fitted to a lawnmower, and produced enough to run it, along with some way of supplying power to the generator, that would be amazing.

[sc6chuck9]

One of my great friends is a metalurgist and said that years ago that the folks from COX engine had told him that after they run one tank of oil gas mix that they could then run just gas. He said he never tried it but said the swore by it.

[bartley440]

Did you retard the timing to TDC? And is that a 2 stroke weedwhacker engine? Per Roy Alister you need around 3 to 5 psi (sustained) per cylinder to run any engine on hydrogen. I tried to run my old weedwhacker engine on HHO too and even with the timing retard it keep back firing on me. I didn't think a 2 stroke would work.

[commando7144]

if thats not oil injection y doesnt it seize?

[seshkanuri]

How would this make a difference in my life? Can you explain what this is the supposed application of this phenomenon?

Dont give me the crap that we can and will run our cars on HHO Gas in future., as that a'int happening as the laws of conservation of energy is against us.

[TheHermeticAlchemist]

you are ignorant, as nikola tesla ran a car off of electricity from the atmosphere. it was an electric car, but it would be the same concept. yes using what a car has now would be almost impossible, but if there was another energy source then....

[pat1huey]

Great work, dont run it too long without some kind of lubricant. 5stars

[crazzieg]

How are you injecting oil into that thing??

[lookout816]

awesome!