Anyone who cant see and understand this is some top notch drumming doesnt belong in the world of wonderful rudimental drumming. Please sell your sticks to the nearest kid... Sooldanbar? Ive played in drumcore and now in pipe band and yes, it is a very big difference and both are just as hard to master.
haha i love this. i definitely agree with broken. i actually do this professionally and you would be surprised, sooldanbar, just how much effort and energy goes into these movements.
due to the intricasies of the rudiments themselves the effort and concentration required to play them this tightly is incredible. add to the fact that you then have to play it to fit over 20 pipers and put it together from an ensemble perspective....well it's hard. these guys make this look incredibly easy compared to just how hard it really is.
bumfluff, you are an idiot because if you were to compare the amount of skill, technicque, and energy these guys put into playing versus a dci drum corps you would be put to shame...this is pathetic compared to true drum corps lines in dci.
As far as i'm concerned you can't compare the two disciplines as they are so vastly different by trying to accomplish different ensemble effects with different rudiments. Both disciplines hit snare drums with wood sticks and thats where the similarities end. Pipe Band drummers would have a very hard time adapting to DCI and DCI drummers would find pipe band drumming very difficult. The fact remains though that you have to be an exceptionally talented musician to play at the top in either.
Guys and gals you need to realize that what appears to you to be buzzes and rolls are quite different pipe band rudiments. Rolls are a closed buzz. What you are mistaking rolls are actually singles, doubles and paradiddles in different movements. Pipe band rolls aren't just tight, they are straight hand to hand buzzes just played off the drum rather than into it.
What rudimentary drummers might consider rolls, we consider pressing your stick randomly on the drum over and over again, without actually having a numerical value to them. I may be wrong of course that is just an assumption. Our rolls are a combination of repeated doubles on either hand in a closed movement creating a smooth roll effect.
What rudimentary drummers might consider rolls, we consider pressing your stick randomly on the drum over and over again, without actually having a numerical value to them. I may be wrong of course that is just an assumption. Our rolls are a combination of repeated doubles on either hand in a closed movement creating a smooth roll effect.
For example some of the rudiments commonly used in pipe band drumming are singles, doubles, paradiddles, rolls, drags, flams, open drags, split triplets, triplets, inverted paradiddles, flam 5's, flam rolls, ratamacues, inverted ratamacues, drag paradiddles, fuzzes, accented rolls (taps on accents, especially in strathspeys).
well they always do place first in the worlds for drumming its normally the pipe section bringing em down =/ even though the pipers are top notch not criticising em at all
I'd have to say I have the utmost respect for DCI drummers as well as Pipe Band Drummers, my self being a pipe band drummer. They're both good at what they do, and play in totally different environments.
Today's American DCI drumming is every bit as creative, and dare I say executed cleaner than pipe drumming, almost to a fault; execution at the expense of musicality. Though the Scottish drumming style does have a better sense of swing and personality within what does appear to be a "technical" context. I did attend an American high school that had bagpipes. We did have a parade cadence that had an excellent sense of swing, though no drum corp would ever play it today.
yes, well i'd have to say that that seems to be a key difference between DCI drumming and pipe band drumming. expression and dynamics is just as important a factor as execution, in pipe band drumming...hence the better sense of swing and personality. without that you have simply the equivalent of a robot drummer!
Hell yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Nice playing lads.
pierretaweel 1 year ago
Is that Richard Boughman just to the right of Kilpatrick?
TheDuxHominum 1 year ago
yup
poxtonian 1 year ago
@TheDuxHominum YUP
andantehead 8 months ago
Anyone who cant see and understand this is some top notch drumming doesnt belong in the world of wonderful rudimental drumming. Please sell your sticks to the nearest kid... Sooldanbar? Ive played in drumcore and now in pipe band and yes, it is a very big difference and both are just as hard to master.
Classe84 3 years ago 4
haha i love this. i definitely agree with broken. i actually do this professionally and you would be surprised, sooldanbar, just how much effort and energy goes into these movements.
princeargos 4 years ago
due to the intricasies of the rudiments themselves the effort and concentration required to play them this tightly is incredible. add to the fact that you then have to play it to fit over 20 pipers and put it together from an ensemble perspective....well it's hard. these guys make this look incredibly easy compared to just how hard it really is.
princeargos 4 years ago
Absolutely superb! No knit picking comments from me. These guys are good!!!!
jammyb90 4 years ago
what is the name of the first tune?
chamilton2392 4 years ago
Susan Macleod
panhandlephillips 3 years ago
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bumfluff, you are an idiot because if you were to compare the amount of skill, technicque, and energy these guys put into playing versus a dci drum corps you would be put to shame...this is pathetic compared to true drum corps lines in dci.
sooldanbar 4 years ago
As far as i'm concerned you can't compare the two disciplines as they are so vastly different by trying to accomplish different ensemble effects with different rudiments. Both disciplines hit snare drums with wood sticks and thats where the similarities end. Pipe Band drummers would have a very hard time adapting to DCI and DCI drummers would find pipe band drumming very difficult. The fact remains though that you have to be an exceptionally talented musician to play at the top in either.
brokenpleasefix 4 years ago
complete arse sooldanbar, you are obviously a pathetic drummer since a real musician would show more respect.
taorluath 4 years ago
Respect is earned, artard. I hope you arent one of those tools that have drum battles lol...that would be funny.
sooldanbar 4 years ago
and your an idiot : )
SteveTheScotDrummer 2 years ago
LOVELY!!!
Mamasan41 4 years ago
Guys and gals you need to realize that what appears to you to be buzzes and rolls are quite different pipe band rudiments. Rolls are a closed buzz. What you are mistaking rolls are actually singles, doubles and paradiddles in different movements. Pipe band rolls aren't just tight, they are straight hand to hand buzzes just played off the drum rather than into it.
princeargos 4 years ago
What rudimentary drummers might consider rolls, we consider pressing your stick randomly on the drum over and over again, without actually having a numerical value to them. I may be wrong of course that is just an assumption. Our rolls are a combination of repeated doubles on either hand in a closed movement creating a smooth roll effect.
princeargos 4 years ago
What rudimentary drummers might consider rolls, we consider pressing your stick randomly on the drum over and over again, without actually having a numerical value to them. I may be wrong of course that is just an assumption. Our rolls are a combination of repeated doubles on either hand in a closed movement creating a smooth roll effect.
princeargos 4 years ago
For example some of the rudiments commonly used in pipe band drumming are singles, doubles, paradiddles, rolls, drags, flams, open drags, split triplets, triplets, inverted paradiddles, flam 5's, flam rolls, ratamacues, inverted ratamacues, drag paradiddles, fuzzes, accented rolls (taps on accents, especially in strathspeys).
princeargos 4 years ago
shotts are far beter than any other drum corps in the world! hands down!
bumfluff3000 4 years ago
well they always do place first in the worlds for drumming its normally the pipe section bringing em down =/ even though the pipers are top notch not criticising em at all
jdasilva5 3 years ago
I love this band!!! Im a piper but love to hear their drummers go. Shotts Rock!!!!
BOBBYURE77 4 years ago
Best drum corp, no doubt about it!
stevielad77 4 years ago
go shotts & dykehead!!
Toppsnare 5 years ago
I'd have to say I have the utmost respect for DCI drummers as well as Pipe Band Drummers, my self being a pipe band drummer. They're both good at what they do, and play in totally different environments.
Thorpester 5 years ago 2
Erm, so what's your point?
bilbodotcom 5 years ago
Today's American DCI drumming is every bit as creative, and dare I say executed cleaner than pipe drumming, almost to a fault; execution at the expense of musicality. Though the Scottish drumming style does have a better sense of swing and personality within what does appear to be a "technical" context. I did attend an American high school that had bagpipes. We did have a parade cadence that had an excellent sense of swing, though no drum corp would ever play it today.
mechmove 5 years ago
yes, well i'd have to say that that seems to be a key difference between DCI drumming and pipe band drumming. expression and dynamics is just as important a factor as execution, in pipe band drumming...hence the better sense of swing and personality. without that you have simply the equivalent of a robot drummer!
Dmoney333 4 years ago
it probably is tighter(dci) but man is the music lame
poxtonian 1 year ago
Yah, that's not buzzing. It's just roles that are tighter than...well...let's just say they're tight and leave it at that.
dagdaj 5 years ago
What's weird about that? Are you an american marching band drummer or something? This is standard (yet very tight) Pipe Band stuff.
nsamu 5 years ago
the snare phrases are so weird...rolls then buzzs all of the sudden....what the...? Still very cool to listen however!
Hmongguitargod 5 years ago