The Wheelock engine was brought to the Lake Region Pioneer Threshermen's Association's showgrounds at Dalton, Minnesota in 1981. It was donated by the Carus family of Peru, Illinois.
There is one more! In Dalton Minnesota (USA ) it's called the wheellock. I would say it's nearly exact to the one in thevideo right down to the color!
There's only one left, and we've got it at Barnoldswick, you need steam up to run it !!, The mill and belting isn't on the other side of the engine, but that's life !!
Reminds me of the steam engine we have over here. It's only 3/4 the size but the position of it and the shed behind it initially reminded me of the shed our steam engine sits in.
Just so you know, this engine did NOT make blanks for coinage. Only the machinery of the US Mint does so. This engine was one of the medium-sized engines of the Mattheson-Hegler zinc mill in LaSalle, Illinois. Basically it'd run a series of roller-presses that would mush an ingot of zinc the size of a small auto into plates of various thicknesses for many uses and also its connection to Freeport itself - the raw sheets used to make the casing for dry-cell batteries for Burgess Battery.
@mikes47jeep It can't run at it's working speed as 1). the governor is not complete so it'd overspeed, and 2). Even at 40 RPM or so it'll quickly run the boiler out of steam. Duane and I had actually done that one night when he forgot to shut off the boiler and it was getting close to closing time. So he shut off the boiler and opened up the valve and in under 5 minutes it drew down the boiler and was coasting on its own inertia.
It should be running from 11:00 AM to 4:00 PM every time the Railroad accross the street is running, which this year is on May 30&31, June 19&20 July 4th, July 24&25, Sept 7th, Sept 17,18&19 during the 41st Annual Threshing Show held at the Stephenson County Fairgrounds 2 miles up the road, Oct 9&10, and Oct 23&24
thanks..i work in a power plant for the state, we have a wood chip boiler to heat the complex and hospital,the back up genorator has a large cat motor,but it youses over 200,gal,hour...it is old but not that old...love it thanks....
There is a minimum speed at which the journal starts riding on a wedge of oil. Too slow and the journal rides on the babbitt and wears quicker than if it was running at full speed. Many museums and showgrounds, running their engines too slow are actually accelerating main journal wear.
You could run this engine forever, I bet you could keep the flywheel turning for a hundred years, you just need to slow it down to about 3 rpm oil it.
@NathansBackwoods Actually all oiling is accomplished without stopping the engine at all. The main bearings each have three pint-capacity drip oilers, the wrist pin would have a "Trombone" oiler with a stationary pot. The crankpin has a stationary rotary oiler, and the crosshead is dripped from above and drop from below. The cylinder and valves are oiled using a mechanical lubricator which is painted red and at the leftmost area of the valve actuation mechanism.
@MyDavid1960 This engine is at the Silver Creek Museum south of Freeport, Illinois at the former site of the Stephenson County Poor Farm and subsequent Stephenson County Nursing Home. It originally worked a mill set at the Matheson-Hegler zinc mill in LaSalle, Illinois.
Hit the wrong button...as I was saying. in the factory it run about 45 rpm. The at 10 rpm the outside of the flywheel is going 9 mph. On hot days standing next to it as it comes out ot the pit puts you in the path of a nice cool breeze.The building tempurature generaly reaches close to 100 degrees and I have seen it reach 115. It's hot, but its a humid hot! :~)
Heyy, I'm on the internet! Cool! Thanks oldSawer for telling me about this video. This engine is rated at just over 9000 HP at 300 psi steam and 64 rpm. We normally run it between 5 and 10 rpm. and just over 100 psi steam. This puts the output at just over 290 HP as we run it. I was told in the factory were we got it it was run at approx.
Where is the 'broken hill mine'(?) and is the engine still there, or long gone by now ?
I also was off a little bit with my quote of this running at a Max of 100 RPM, it's actually closer to 60 RPM MAX
I'm not sure what the horsepower and/or torque ratings are on it, plus they are dependant on the boiler pressure, but you can figure it's in the thousands of foot-pounds of torque with the horsepower being calculated at whatever RPM it is running at.
the Broken Hill (possibly old BHP mine) is, interestingly, in a place called broken hill. It's in the north-west of NSW in Australia. I went there a while ago and there was a big green engine that looked like this one used to power the winch in the mine.
Large steam traction engines barely run at 250 RPM full throttle belted up to Threshing machines & Sawmills or pulling a plow. Big engines like this are MAXED OUT UNDER 100 RPM, Nowhere near the 1800 RPM that hardwares1 thinks it should run. The amazing thing is watching it start up, as it only takes about 1/4 to 1/2 turn of the 36 TON flywheel to get up to speed & then get throttled down to the low operating speed. Try getting a 36 Ton Semi tractor trailer rig up to 50-60MPH in 3 or 4 seconds !
Yes, it's really running on steam. They had a boiler in the other room fired by gas. They also had a dozen or so steam whistles outside that they would sound in response to the Heisler steam loco running across the street.
Demonstration /display engines always run at slow speeds, so visitors can see all the stuff moving. also, maintainance, and operating costs are far less if they keep it slow.
how much power?
MRoesterreicher1 2 months ago
It's a steam engine open the steam valve.
joseph42374 5 months ago
How would they start that engine...? like back than in time?
28kingIV 5 months ago
@28kingIV Steam engines have maximum torque at minimum speed. You just wait for the pressure to build up in the boiler and then release the kraken
demoniack81 4 months ago
The Wheelock engine was brought to the Lake Region Pioneer Threshermen's Association's showgrounds at Dalton, Minnesota in 1981. It was donated by the Carus family of Peru, Illinois.
The engine was built in 1896.
30" bore.
54" stroke.
1100 h.p.
weight: 110 ton.
Flywheel: 25 ft. 4 in. diameter.
utseericks 5 months ago
There is one more! In Dalton Minnesota (USA ) it's called the wheellock. I would say it's nearly exact to the one in thevideo right down to the color!
utseericks 5 months ago
There's only one left, and we've got it at Barnoldswick, you need steam up to run it !!, The mill and belting isn't on the other side of the engine, but that's life !!
Watsupwiya 8 months ago
Reminds me of the steam engine we have over here. It's only 3/4 the size but the position of it and the shed behind it initially reminded me of the shed our steam engine sits in.
Zappyguy111 8 months ago
Biggest steam engine is in the movie Steamboy XD
SMGJohn 9 months ago
Just so you know, this engine did NOT make blanks for coinage. Only the machinery of the US Mint does so. This engine was one of the medium-sized engines of the Mattheson-Hegler zinc mill in LaSalle, Illinois. Basically it'd run a series of roller-presses that would mush an ingot of zinc the size of a small auto into plates of various thicknesses for many uses and also its connection to Freeport itself - the raw sheets used to make the casing for dry-cell batteries for Burgess Battery.
digitaltf 11 months ago
a Beam Engine is bigger as there the biggest steam engines on earth
GayBoyRunning 1 year ago
i want to see it at its "working speed" not just creeping along
mikes47jeep 1 year ago
@mikes47jeep It can't run at it's working speed as 1). the governor is not complete so it'd overspeed, and 2). Even at 40 RPM or so it'll quickly run the boiler out of steam. Duane and I had actually done that one night when he forgot to shut off the boiler and it was getting close to closing time. So he shut off the boiler and opened up the valve and in under 5 minutes it drew down the boiler and was coasting on its own inertia.
digitaltf 11 months ago
Who recalls MacAndrew's Hymn by Kipling?
Squarerig 1 year ago
wanna race?
spdkilzasoundsuck 1 year ago
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GayBoyRunning 1 year ago
Amazing, would love to see it running on steam.
bigchickengenius 2 years ago
@bigchickengenius
It should be running from 11:00 AM to 4:00 PM every time the Railroad accross the street is running, which this year is on May 30&31, June 19&20 July 4th, July 24&25, Sept 7th, Sept 17,18&19 during the 41st Annual Threshing Show held at the Stephenson County Fairgrounds 2 miles up the road, Oct 9&10, and Oct 23&24
oldSawyer 1 year ago
thanks..i work in a power plant for the state, we have a wood chip boiler to heat the complex and hospital,the back up genorator has a large cat motor,but it youses over 200,gal,hour...it is old but not that old...love it thanks....
MyDavid1960 2 years ago
There is a minimum speed at which the journal starts riding on a wedge of oil. Too slow and the journal rides on the babbitt and wears quicker than if it was running at full speed. Many museums and showgrounds, running their engines too slow are actually accelerating main journal wear.
todengine 2 years ago 17
@todengine
I will try to remember to pass that on the Eugene (F12Mahon) the next time I see him.
oldSawyer 1 year ago
You could run this engine forever, I bet you could keep the flywheel turning for a hundred years, you just need to slow it down to about 3 rpm oil it.
NathansBackwoods 2 years ago
@NathansBackwoods Actually all oiling is accomplished without stopping the engine at all. The main bearings each have three pint-capacity drip oilers, the wrist pin would have a "Trombone" oiler with a stationary pot. The crankpin has a stationary rotary oiler, and the crosshead is dripped from above and drop from below. The cylinder and valves are oiled using a mechanical lubricator which is painted red and at the leftmost area of the valve actuation mechanism.
digitaltf 11 months ago
nice ,where is it and whot was it used for??
MyDavid1960 2 years ago
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NathansBackwoods 2 years ago
most of the steam engines used for generating power, they use a boiler like your home in size.
nowdays they use gas turbine or nuclear energy
lio0nheart 2 years ago
@MyDavid1960 This engine is at the Silver Creek Museum south of Freeport, Illinois at the former site of the Stephenson County Poor Farm and subsequent Stephenson County Nursing Home. It originally worked a mill set at the Matheson-Hegler zinc mill in LaSalle, Illinois.
digitaltf 11 months ago
Twelve sections, at 5 ton apiece, GOOD NIGHT NURSE!!
rickster348 2 years ago
can you tell some about the weight of the flywheel?
terommetje 2 years ago
The flywheel is made up of 12 sections, each weighing 5 tons (US)
CHIPWAHL 2 years ago
Hit the wrong button...as I was saying. in the factory it run about 45 rpm. The at 10 rpm the outside of the flywheel is going 9 mph. On hot days standing next to it as it comes out ot the pit puts you in the path of a nice cool breeze.The building tempurature generaly reaches close to 100 degrees and I have seen it reach 115. It's hot, but its a humid hot! :~)
F12Mahon 2 years ago 2
Heyy, I'm on the internet! Cool! Thanks oldSawer for telling me about this video. This engine is rated at just over 9000 HP at 300 psi steam and 64 rpm. We normally run it between 5 and 10 rpm. and just over 100 psi steam. This puts the output at just over 290 HP as we run it. I was told in the factory were we got it it was run at approx.
F12Mahon 2 years ago 2
this big engine to turn the little red pole with balls?
skunk2civic7 2 years ago
The red pole and balls are actually the governor. This controls the steam intake to keep the engine at a constant speed.
Robkat3751 2 years ago 2
The balls are weights of a govornor.
Thanks
edisonphonographs 2 years ago 2
this looks a lot like an old stea engine used to power the winch in the old broken hill mine.
microblah 2 years ago
Where is the 'broken hill mine'(?) and is the engine still there, or long gone by now ?
I also was off a little bit with my quote of this running at a Max of 100 RPM, it's actually closer to 60 RPM MAX
I'm not sure what the horsepower and/or torque ratings are on it, plus they are dependant on the boiler pressure, but you can figure it's in the thousands of foot-pounds of torque with the horsepower being calculated at whatever RPM it is running at.
oldSawyer 2 years ago 2
the Broken Hill (possibly old BHP mine) is, interestingly, in a place called broken hill. It's in the north-west of NSW in Australia. I went there a while ago and there was a big green engine that looked like this one used to power the winch in the mine.
microblah 2 years ago
how fast does it really need to run to stamp coins? and id imagine even 300 rpms would be pushing things a bit
GoldsLifter 3 years ago
Large steam traction engines barely run at 250 RPM full throttle belted up to Threshing machines & Sawmills or pulling a plow. Big engines like this are MAXED OUT UNDER 100 RPM, Nowhere near the 1800 RPM that hardwares1 thinks it should run. The amazing thing is watching it start up, as it only takes about 1/4 to 1/2 turn of the 36 TON flywheel to get up to speed & then get throttled down to the low operating speed. Try getting a 36 Ton Semi tractor trailer rig up to 50-60MPH in 3 or 4 seconds !
oldSawyer 3 years ago 3
It's beautiful. Certainly not in danger of over revving.
ponkkaa 3 years ago 6
Yes, it's really running on steam. They had a boiler in the other room fired by gas. They also had a dozen or so steam whistles outside that they would sound in response to the Heisler steam loco running across the street.
CHIPWAHL 3 years ago
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Yeah, yeah; BUT, is it actually running, or is there an electric motor hidden in a box somewhere?
A steam engine running is a thing that's ALIVE, not dead like this cold iron...
bangwezl 3 years ago
Demonstration /display engines always run at slow speeds, so visitors can see all the stuff moving. also, maintainance, and operating costs are far less if they keep it slow.
beardo52 3 years ago 2
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flyweights seem stuck. please unstick them, and run this thing UP to about 1800 RPM. thanks
hardwares1 3 years ago
I suspect that during its working life it ran two or three times that speed, if only because it would have been a whole lot more efficient.
quatfro 4 years ago
Does it alway run that slow?
Skoda130 4 years ago
What's the hurry?
MusicMan20061210 3 years ago
Doesn't matter.. I just wondered if the engine is just capable of running faster.
Skoda130 3 years ago