It'ld be great to be able to steal the expensive purse, jewelry, etc. shown in the video and then sell them at 2x the value RT says these items presently have. To get 2x the value, go to the rich and corrupt elites, tell them about the value of this stuff, and then explain that since it's stolen, it's worth at least 2x more. These extreme thieves would surely be happy to buy such "hot" stuff to wear in public, to put their prestige on display before us all.
Jewish Bankers are looting our country. Obama's Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner is now in Greece forcing & threatening the Greece Government to implement severe austirity measures.
We must defeat these Jewish Bankers if we want to prevent the destruction of our children's & grandchildren's future.
@ejpetersondub It's always the unsuccessful that blame me for making opportunities instead of complaining about a lack of them. Enjoy your miserable life!
Get a job. Get a part time job or low wage job since that is the only jobs they are creating. Move back home with your parents and save. Forget about having a family, your dreams, your ambitions, just work for nothing till you get sick and die. This is what the government wants; workers, people just making enough to live,
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My house-keeper, that was an illegal Mexican immigrant, had two full-time jobs, and his wife one...so how are there no jobs? He managed to raise his two kids, and to put some money apart. This communist scum should go his paradise in China, or North Korea, along with the leeches he defends...hope I manage to cross his pass in NYC, he'll be living for free...on life-support!!!
I'm a Canadian Warrior, and a billionaire...and yes, I work 16 hours every day...
Jesse LaGreca wants a welfare check. Sorry it ain't going to happen Jesse. Go on a diet and stop eating at McDonald's and all the other corporate food businesses you're fattening up on.
@defgill That's because the average person is a sucker who ties their salary to CPI/RPI aka "fake inflation", while the smart money and big fund guys tie their salary to money supply, which is real inflation.
@gshooting wrote in reply to mstrephoenix1, "If it's such an illusion, why don't you just burn it then?"
No. Instead, give the money away to people who'll make use of it for purchases. If the money is an illusion, then it doesn't matter, for people can still make purchases with it and then the person initially with the money is freed of it and has real goods and/or services in place of the illusory money.
Don't burn it when other people can make good use of it. I receive mail :)
@RapedByRepublicans Jesse LaGreca doesn't make "too much about right and left", not seeming to even talk in such terms at all. I didn't notice anything like that from his words, anyway. So, what causes you to think "he makes it too much about right and left", precisely?
@watchingneil The presenter or hostess for the interview is fine. So, either there's something wrong with you, or I'm just not seeing what you're bothered by about her.
@Filmchica You're a goofball. The interview anchor did her job just fine. It's a short interview, so we shouldn't expect one that'ld be as thorough as a half-hour or one-hour interview. And the interview host or hostess needs to pose some questions or at least say something. So, what's your problem with how she conducted this interview, exactly?
People should look at a historic chart of oil production.
There you can see when the wealth of the middle class grew and when it stopped.
It grew untill the 70's and afther the oil crisis years back then the middle class hardly grew anymore, and oil production afther those years never again rose as hard as before.
Today the middle class is in decline and oil production is growing slower and slower.
... Today the middle class is in decline and oil production is growing slower and slower."
It isn't lack of oil, but rather market control by the ruling elites, who play the demand & supply curve and other economic "games", with and against us.
There's plenty of oil. It's how the elites dominate and control the market that's the problem. Of course another problem is finding a good substitute for energy.
"People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principle men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd."
@Tressco Morgan seems to have spoken words describing reality, but got 2 parts wrong. Some people without homes quarrel with leaders, and the ruling elites aren't teachers. They're brainwashers, corrupt, traitors, and so on.
A true teacher must be pedagogical in character and work, and anyone intentionally misleading others is no pedagogue. Pedagogues care about their teaching and students.
So, we can just make these 2 changes in Morgan's words, to see that he's otherwise right.
This is so asinine as to be comical. At one time you had about 3 millionaires that ruled the "World", now you have millions, to me that is progress.
The divide wasn't even a divide at one time, it was an endless pit of despair with a clear and focused separation of " Havenchery" and "NonHavenchery".
Humankind is progressing despite the resistance of each side and it always will, hubris is the handmaiden of jealousy.
@clownprince88 What is Havenchery? I just did a Web and dict. search and don't get any matching info, so it apparently isn't a real word at all. There are some links for pages where the words haven and chery (a person's name I guess) are found, but not havenchery.
A key part of the art of communication requires being able to be understood. Without it, we won't be communicating, we'll just be making vocal sounds that have no meaning to whoever reads or hears our words.
Havenchery, is a little term i made up that encompasses the words treachery and "having" , it's dangerous to want to have and not have it and it's also dangerous to have and be guilty for having it.
But ultimately it's my phrase for the ones that have and the ones that don't , at least on an possession of objects plane ( cars, houses, trinkets, clothes etc.. ).
NonHavenchery, the mindset that someone has more than you and envy is justified
When the world is on the threshold of global economic and societal collapse and when world war III is about to start, the American People pull out their credit cards and rush to their nearest Walmart en masse to buy up, in orgasmic frenzy, the latest cheap plastic Chinese made trinkets and electronic gadgets while enjoying the accompaniment of 18 different versions of Jingle Bells being played on the P.A system. Happy Holidays America!! Will that be credit or debit?
@alpidistra Sounds like the USA isn't a place to head to spend XMass holidays, based on what you wrote.
WW III started yrs ago. Many people say that if Iran is attacked, then we'll have WW III, but what we'll really have is escalation and expansion of WW III. And some people, like at ww4report . com, fe, have argued that we're in WW IV and that III was the Cold War between Washington and the former USSR; a fair p.o.v., imo.
@mikecorbeil Whether you call it III, IV or V really doesn't matter. The cold war was actually a time of relative quiet because of the balance of power. Now we're dealing with something entirely different. You are right in that mankind is always in a state of war and conflict; but that just comes with the dualistic construct we call the physical world. Matter needs polarity to manifest.
@kiararei wrote : "who the hell spends $140,000 on a bag?"
It takes quacks to buy such things, but if you find any who will and tell me where we can "freely" pick up 1 of these purses, then I'll be glad to do that and then sell it to whatever quack is willing to blow this kind of $ for a bag.
My day-pack or small backpack : larger, more convenient, and cost $45 around 1980 or '81.
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@TheJazairia Couldn't agree more. Its terrible. What's worse is the people have to risk their lives catching then skinning the poor croc alive for their skin is are paid literally pennies. And STILL, women put their whole savings to get this "status" bag. Vanity at its worse.
The killing and skinning of a croc or aligator is not "vanity at its worse", unless you think that what's being done in Africa for far over a decade for mining, oil, ... corporations of the "West" and, therefore, Wall Street to profit, plus the wars or overt wars, is less bad. To seek to profit, rather than to oppose, wars of aggression and other extreme injustices against humanity [is] the real "vanity at its worse"; couldn't be worse.
@Filmchica But while it isn't the worst vanity, it still is very vain to spend a lot of money for a purse, jewelry, etc. It's complete nonsense to live that way, and I guess only sociopaths could do that; people without any real or serious social conscience and who, therefore, are enemies of whatever societies they live in or are citizens of and vote in.
I came across an article recently and the title said it was about many more Lambourghinis now in the USA. War is profit/racket!
@TheJazairia you are a horrible person! why you want see something like this? what do you have against the crocodiles? wish one day this people get so fuck up that they will have to eat this 140.000 bag. is more humanity. ;p
In 2008 ABC went to Denmark to find out why the danes are the happiest people in the world. They followed a garbage man around and also talked to other people. It would be interesting if you could compare the life of an american garbage man and a danish one. Or compare the life of the danish middle class , poor people and that of the american middle class and poor americans.
@Shredderof7Seas yes plz....it would be a good start anyways. We're an intelligent species, time to put those brains to work on how to make us the best we can be
@sirellyn What kind of corrupt human are you? 30,000 children dieing everyday due to starvation, preventable diseases and extreme poverty is worse than 0? And I suppose murder and suicide rates aren't as high as you would like them?
@ejpetersondub Yes, like I said, I'd like things to get better. So less people dying from starvation everyday. Less people poor.
If you picked an RBE those numbers would be far worse. Mao turned nearly all the Chinese into farmers so food would be abundant. As a result, China experienced the greatest loss of life from starvation at one time in history. The death toll nearing parity with WWII.
So yes, no RBE, I want less famine, less pain and suffering thank you very much.
@sirellyn Lol HUH? What does Mao have anything to do with this? He did not try and create a RBE, far from it. The idea and intent of a RBE is to prevent famine, so how you figure somehow that it would create more is completely irrational. Current system holds food back from people who need it. RBE works on making enough food for everyone AND makes it available for everyone. I don't understand where your coming from...
@ejpetersondub You should learn a bit more about the people's revolution. The intention was literally the same, providing food for everyone who needed it. They thought it was bad when money held back food from thousands of poor.
Then they got to try it their way and 40+ million died from starvation.
It would be nice to distribute based on "need", but there's a number of reasons why you can't. Altruism, Omniscience, incentive, psychology, logistics, subjectivity to name a few.
@djkhaless In case you haven't noticed humans aren't altruistic. Nor are we enslavers. We are capable of both. Like all creatures we are forward thinking survivors. Those wise enough understand to help others is to help oneself.
You can't build based on the assumptions of the strongest pieces. Imagine NASA building a rocket saying "We mixed some of that light weight super steel in there, it should carry the rest."
You don't build a social structure like that either.
@djkhaless Profit is the wealth thats left over after all materials are spent. You'd want a "profit" of air in a sealed room, or a "profit" of trees in a forest.
If you are angry that certain things (and damages) aren't calculated when determining financial profit,
GOOD. You should be!
This isn't the fault of profit, this is the fault of fraudulent omissions.
To grow or even sustain, you NEED to produce more than you have. You need fully calculated profit.
@sirellyn 1) RBE is NOTHING like communism, so stop lumping them together. 40 million people starved because farming food was labor intensive and took a large amount of the population to produce. The point of a RBE is to use our technology to our advantage. It takes a small fraction of the labor force in the past to produce food now, and most of the hard work is done by machines. People didn't starve because of human fallacies, they did because of a lack of technology.
@ejpetersondub wrote in reply to ejpetersondub, "... 30,000 children dieing everyday due to starvation, preventable diseases and extreme poverty is worse than 0? ..."
Well, I'ld believe that 0 (no) children dying every day would be better than 30,000 of them dying every day or year. Promote 0, not 30,000. Achieve that curve or trajectory with your income, fe, but not with the number of children unjustly dying every day. The fewer the better.
@Shredderof7Seas Yes, but without putting people under the total control of a centralized super computer with powers over life and death!!!! Change? Yes Computerized Tyranny? No thank you!!!!!
@alpidistra Lol what are you talking about? There is no control, no power over life or death, or tyranny in a RBE. You must be thinking of communism. Completely different.
@ejpetersondub You obviously have not watched the Zeitgeist series in it's entirety or you have failed to understand what it is suggesting as a solution.
@alpidistra I thought the same of you. I've actually watched the last 2 movies a few times each and nowhere in them does it even hint at what you claim. Please, enlighten me to where in the movies, or the site that goes into the subject further, does it AT ALL hints at control of life or death. Please.
@ejpetersondub The concept of global resource management in a resource based economy is covered in the second film, Zeitgeist Addendum. Watch it again and pay close attention. It states that all decision making will be done by a global centralized computer which will determine all aspects of your life. The films offer excellent analysis on what's wrong with the current system, however the solutions offered are very dangerous and materialistic. Be cautious!!
@alpidistra Nowhere did it say that a computer will make ALL decision making, or dictate any aspect of human life. It just doesn't, unless you can prove me wrong with a time that it does, because I haven;t been able to find where. What it does do, more than anything, is FREE people to do what they want. No person or computer will tell anyone what to do.
@ejpetersondub There is no way to implement the Zeitgeist plan without compulsion. There is no way it can be arrived at by free choice. You must understand this. It was very clearly stated in Zeitgeist Addendum; you obviously only take from the film what you want and overlook the rest. Again, there are some very good ideas in it but it includes some major flaws that makes the whole thing just another form of tyranny.
@alpidistra explain how it could become a tyranny?
There is no doubt that RBE has flaws, as does every system, but it is an evolution in economic systems. Capitalism is currently turning itself into fascism (for it's inherent in the system), but I would never through away all the good things capitalism has achieved for us. Wanting to evolve past old outdated systems is intelligent and logical, nothing more.
@alpidistra Of course it can be arrived at by free choice, its just a matter of convincing people, which I admit will probably never happen, but it is possible. It is not clearly stated, or stated at all. You keep "quoting" the film on things that it simply doesn't say. Your basically lying out of your pooper. Please reference the section that states: this can only be done by force".
@ejpetersondub Oh really? Just how do you people plan on herding the world's population into compact cities? How do you plan on getting people to give up their private property? How do you plan to get people to give the use of money? How do you plan to get people to "work for the good of society"? Your stupid Zeitgeist plan remains simply a theory unless you have the guts to force people into it. Its been tried before, its called communism.
@alpidistra Um, the idea isn't to herd anyone anywhere, or to take private property from anyone, or get people to work. Your not even talking about a RBE, your talking about slavery and that is the exact opposite of a RBE. It seems impossible to get people to willingly give up the use of money, but that is the idea. If anyone is forced to do anything than it no longer exists and it changes into something else.
@alpidistra Don't insult yourself by calling it communism. A RBE is obviously, absolutely nothing like communism. Such a statement proves without a doubt you have absolutely no idea what your talking about, even more so than you making things up out of nowhere.
@ejpetersondub Yes it is theory, and forcing anyone to do anything completely goes against the theory. The whole point is to get people to evolve on an intellectual level and come together with the understanding of what needs to be done to not only save humanity from itself, but to prosper and truly live freely. Sounds impossible, and maybe it is, but don't retard the idea because you can't fathom it.
@alpidistra You completely missed the main concept. There are no leaders, there is no imposing of anything, no telling people where to live or what to do. If there is an elite, or if someone is telling you what to do then that is not the RBE that is being proposed, that is something different. Again absolutely nowhere in the movie does it say that anyone is forced to go anywhere or do anything. Your completely making that up based on your own fear of change.
@ejpetersondub Of course it doesn't say it anywhere in the movie; they're not that stupid. It simply takes intelligence and familiarity with history and philosophy to understand between the lines. There is no way to implement such a plan as outlined in the Zeitgeist films without force. People will not give up private property, money or the freedom to live where they want. You'll always have an elite form in such a system who will define for you what is "good for society" or not.
@ejpetersondub Just as all previous attempts to impose "equality", an elite group of leaders will invariably arise with the Venus Project as a privileged group of programmers who will be in charge of this global centralized computer. It will determine where you live, what job is assigned to you, what and how much you shall eat etc etc. Beware of red flag phrases such as "carrying capacity" and "overpopulation"; dead giveaways!!
@alpidistra You're wrong man...the computer doesn't make the decisions, it is there for resource management. Computers are only tools, and Peter Joseph knows this all too well. It's like when you take your car to be serviced: the computer tells the mechanic what is wrong and where it is wrong, but he must make the choices on how best to proceed, and he will sometimes collaborate with co-workers in the same technical field
@djkhaless You people are falling into the age-old cult trap with this personality worship of Peter Joseph. Don't look to a personality for solving the world's problems. You've got to find the spiritual solution within which will help project the change you want on a collective basis, not following some messianic figure, (an obscure musician chosen as a front man or mascot for a globalist plan). It's just repackaged atheism and materialism for the naive.
@alpidistra Please don't make assumptions about me, I definitely do not worship Peter Joseph. He has some good ideas, nothing more. I agree that spiritual evolution is EXTREMELY important for our advancement as a species. I am spiritual myself, and believe we need to change our perspective of separateness to that of us all being one. We are one. Apparently you miss 2 portent features of RBE, education and consciousness shift, these things must come first
@djkhaless Okay. We need to explore the very nature of matter and understand that the world system is sustained by dualism. Therefore it is good that you understand the spiritual aspect of all this. Look into quantum physics as well as read the chapter "Science of Being" in the book "Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures" by Mary Baker Eddy for good info. Joel Goldsmith, Ramana Maharshi and A Course in Miracles are also very good tools for changing the paradigm.
Change will not come from Congress or Wall St. It has to come from YOU, American consumer. You wonder why you are poor and they are rich, when it is you who spends all your money on their USELESS products. Not to mention all the interest you pay to have more material goods now instead of later using credit cards. STOP consuming so much and SAVE your money.
@ejpetersondub Although you are absolutely correct about people being consumed by materialism and living beyond their means, you are wrong that this changes any "real" balance of economic power. You will not become an "elite" by being an intelligent frugal consumer.
@djkhaless Is that what this is all about? Everyone becoming "elite'? If so then there is no solution because that is physically impossible. If you want to stop being in debt, stop borrowing. If you want to stop being poor, stop spending. If you want to stop supporting the 1% then stop giving them all your money in exchange for useless crap. Simple as that.
@ejpetersondub You're absolutely, not everyone can be elite. What I want is evolution of the global socio-economic environment. I want our species to evolve economically, politically, and culturally. I want a tenable world for everyone on the planet and those who will replace us all...a species who is out for the species' growth, advancement and efficiency.
@djkhaless I am with you there except that I think that politics is what holds back our evolution. It is politics that corrupts humanity, and it should be killed like a cancer.
@ejpetersondub Politics as it exists today I agree. But really, we need to reach a condition where politics is part of everyone's everyday life, inseparable from normal social living for the average citizen. It is not the social science of politics in and of itself, but how we use that social science that is the problem.
@djkhaless I will respectfully disagree. Politics is what it is today and yesterday because it is politics. It is a corrupted and outdated process and does nothing but hold us back, in my opinion.
@ejpetersondub "Politics is a process by which groups of people make collective decisions." If this is the case, which it is, then as I said before, politics is inseparable from everyday life. If we sit down and discuss whether we want to build a road or a new school or anything, the very decision making process IS politics. Blaming politics for our ills is like saying guns kill people.
@djkhaless I disagree. That wiki-definition may be applied to the Greek system that created politics, but that is far from what the term is used for today. It goes on to say that the term is "applied to the art or science of running governmental or state affairs". A lot of such affairs are not collectively decided on. We can get rid of our entire political system and still sit down to decide things. It is our particular system that is the cancer of humanity.
What ruined America was free trade. Ross Perot warned us about that sucking sound which was our job going overseas but the big establishments were too good to listen. They knew that the middle class would be wiped out eventually but they did not car because it does not affect them. Look at us know ! Our government is too big too corrupted which will lead to Americas crash.
Government regulated "free trade", not really that free. Businesses going over seas because of too much regulation and taxation. Cost efficiency is favored over patriotism when it comes to business.
@asperin Businesses went overseas because labour is cheaper....it's all about profits. Unless you let the corporations gouge peoples wages, they will go offshore for their labour
Implementation of socialism will inevitably bring more poverty into US, it is historical fact. People just don't understand that if money is distributed evenly without being earned no one will work, government will take more control and more liberty will be lost . The entire country population will diminish.
@zen5678 "Implementation of socialism will inevitably bring more poverty." How you come to that conclusion when this is just a normal inevitable cycle of capitalism? Only this time it has the potential to destroy itself if the poor refuse to bail out the rich yet again.
Socialism works great in Scandinavia, The Netherlands and Germany. And that is just for Europe. Yes it's not 100% socialism, but it's also not 100% Capitalism. It's like a merger of the 2 systems. Funny tho, how these countries have one of the best educational, healthcare, infrastructure systems in the world. Also a lower poverty and criminal rates than less equal countries.
In contrary. The more equal a country, the better these systems are + lower crime
America is more Socialist than Scandinavia and it's doing really bad.
In Scandinavia welfare is focused locally, in America is focused externally. If it wasn't for the US mafia government giving billions to other countries and spending trillions in militarization/war, it would have better standards than Scandinavia.
The goal of the global elite is to destroy America. America has a constitution like no other, its message of Individualism is a threat to the elite.
@asperin Name the social programmes in the US. Now compare to Scandinavia or the netherlands etc. You'll see that they're not more social. You only recently got a health care act together! Something that has been here for decades. Just to name a simple point. :)
@WGutjens They are able to do that thanks to a strong manufacturing sector and low government regulation. Something that US does not have. Germany would be much more prosperous and equal without those near complete socialist PIGGS dragging them down and if government allow the private sector to take over much public programs and allow more competition.
@zen5678 Right now there is more and more privatisation in the Healthcare sector and Educational sector. Aswell as other sectors such as infrastructure. Results for us here in our country:
LESS QUALITY HIGHER COSTS. In short.
Educational costs are going up the more privatisation is applied. The quality is going down rapidly.
Healthcare costs are exploding through the roof, yet quality is declining even FASTER down the drain.
public transport privatised. Nothing but delays and HIGH prices.
@zen5678 I wish you were right, but shamefully you're not. It might work in the US but the US isn't europe. In europe, the more social a country is, the better it becomes. = ]
@WGutjens Then you will get what is coming at you when everyone doesn't work, no more farmers to make food and you can't get anything from the money you got from the government. It will make today look like paradise.
@zen5678 Right.. as if capitalism is working so well for the USA huh.=[ People working like slaves for little income, earning less and less a year since more and more keeps hanging in the companies/ceo's/banks. Health being very expensive. 1 in 6 in poverty.
Eventually both systems lead to the same:A lot of power in the hands of a few.A lot of wealth in the hands of a few.Neither system is perfect, both have mayor flaws. Shamefully people are too asleep to see that capitalism too fails en masse
@zen5678 you need to get out of the propaganda bubble of differentiating between capitalism and free-market capitalism. They are one in the same and follow a basic principle that ALL property is private, this is capitalism's greatest strength, and it is also capitalism's ultimate doom.
@djkhaless you are going against the founding fathers' ideology made your country was the greatest during that period. Doing everything opposite to it, well you know what happened to zimbabewae.
@zen5678 Sorry, but I'm not from your country, and don't really care that much about imaginary lines. For me everyone is part of the human species. And holding onto ideologies that are failing, like capitalism, is not only stupid, but detrimental to our species as a whole. Just as hanging on to past economic systems would have been. We moved past failing systems, the time has come again, not a huge deal. Capitalism has given us great advancements and growth, it's just a worn out tire now is all
@djkhaless And you imply socialism is a better system? There is only free-market capitalism, a mixture of both(which is today) called facism/crony capitalism, or just plain socialism. Capitalism is the better system of them all. If USA wants to learn things the hard way like Weimar Germany, go ahead. You guys are heading in that direction anyhow.
@zen5678 I hope you can remain loyal to this new system when average citizens start plundering each other because there won't be enough food for everyone
No one can be surprised by this. The goal of the elite is to make everyone else subservient to their will; to make you slaves for their own prosperity. The USA is a KLEPTOCRACY. The money -like hot air- floats to the top. Your job in society is to be a working-class scum that will NEVER escape your unending, ever-increasing debt. Your vote is a joke. Congress exists only to serve the elite (they are the elite). The president is a puppet for the corporate elite.
CAPITALISM creates ELITE CRIMINALS. BANKERS. DRUG LORDS. INEQUALITY. INSECURITY. GREED. RUTHLESS COMMUNISM. NWO. NAZI. TERRORISM. LAZY PEOPLE. REBEL POLITICIAN. ANARCHY. worst is WAR etc.. etc..
CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
One of the last things he said was something about not wanting to see this movement end. In order for the people to be heard they must never stop demanding to be heard...
Bad new about America is, well, just good news in general lol, Please suffer more! For fifty cents a day you too can help some poor americano dirtpicker last through the day to face more misery tomorrow lol!
Yes they will attack but it is to late the people have woken up on the largest scale. I am fortunate to still have my job. I cant stand the fact that my fellow Americans are losing their homes while these thieves buy $150,000 necklaces and go on $300,000 vacations. True that we live in a free country these crooks get their money by stealing it. Lets lock them up for a change.
@agelessrocker you drive on a public street? socialist! you ever you to a public library? why? Are you a socialist?
Socialism exists within all of our societies. You have a gross misunderstanding of socialism perpetuated through propaganda of globalists. Is socialism tenable as a stand alone system...not a chance. Much respect for Mr.Churchill, but is statement is way of the mark from any true depiction of socialism.
@agelessrocker why move to north korea dumb ass i can go to cuba and next time you have an a pussy ache and your house is on fire LET IT BURN DONT CALL FOR HELP BECAUSE THATS SOCIALISM!
@mstrephoenix1 Punishing the successful to give to the lazy is your utopia. Inequality is a fact of human existence. Always has been, always will be. Deal with it.......Fuckhead.
@agelessrocker so we should just be poor and let out way of life slip through out fingers because "that's the way it is".... ok that makes sense..don't fight or argue for your life if your poor you deserve it.
@Belo118 There are plenty of opportunities out there to better yourself if you're not a lazy piece of shit. Why should you get a free ride just because others work harder than you?
@agelessrocker Oh NO! darling I work! LOL and yo are RIGHT..they are LAZY...ALL those PEOPLE are JUST a bunch OF LAZY ASSES! all that work out there! and they don't want to work! all the OPORTUNITIES! and they don't want to! SO LAZY! LAZY LAZY LAZY Americans, begging like dogs..... LOL (really dude?)
@Belo118 I didn't realize I was talking to an illiterate 12 year old. Ever heard of the department of workforce services? state department of unemployment? SOS training? Grants, loans, library resources, community colleges, technical colleges, etc? Never mind replying. Children bore me.
@agelessrocker oh now i'm kid..lol ok then.... but they are lazy yes or no?...I mean I AM agreeing with you...LAZY LAZY...all the things they could do and choose not to...sound like lazy people to me.... =)
@agelessrocker You are misinformed if you believe that. My girlfriend with a college degree and good work experience looked for a job for over a year, applying for everything out there including those jobs she was overly qualified for and ended up taking a part time job at a non profit because that was her only option. Numbers do not lie and there's no denying the gap of inequality and joblessness that has grown over the past decade.
@jallison79 Sometimes you gotta bus tables, flip burgers, mop floors to get by. Inequality is a human fact. Do you think the successful should be punished because there are a lack of jobs? Would you like the gov't to tell you how much money you are allowed to earn before they take the rest? If you want equality, go to North Korea.
@agelessrocker There are only so many of those jobs. And what happens when the middle class goes away, who's going to go out to eat. I'd prefer to have equality hear in a country that claims to be democratic. You are obviously to stupid to put 2 + 2 together and realize that our system is bought and represent the .1% and because of that we are where we are today. But yeah go ahead and blame all problems on the straw many "Lazy people" while the real crooks take it all.
@jallison79 Corporations depend on middle class workers, they aren't going away. Do you think GM, Microsoft, Aliantek, Boeing, etc are going to all disappear? You're 1% squeals are hilarious, as you can't name one person....just some allusive "them" that's making your life the shitpile it is. Sorry pal, get a fucking job, log off.
@agelessrocker Oh how sad you are. Funny thing is I probably have a much better job than you do and consider myself quite happy. The problem with most corporations, including all you listed, is that technology is coming to the point that it's inefficient to employee the type of workforce they once did years ago. And those jobs that they actually need labor are being outsourced to third world countries where we basically get slave labor. But hey I guess you want that here to.
@jallison79 Insecurity is what makes people brag. That aside, I work for a multi-national and outsourcing is one of the best things that ever happened to us. We can introduce new products into the marketplace 4 times faster than before, because our resources are freed up to do so. Initial production happens here, so nobody has lost their jobs. Our engineering department has quadrupled in size in 7 years. Have a nice day, and enjoy pretending to be happy.
@agelessrocker Good luck introducing products to a market place that's dried out because of idiotic thinking like you've shown. Continue to attack what the mainstream media makes you think the problem is. Ignore the real problem and statistics and follow your gut feeling. I will continue to have nice days...thanks for caring.
@jallison79 We don't need your silly luck. Our stock has tripled in price in 2 years and our Asian and Indian markets have created massive new markets for us. That's right, good old USA designs being sold en masse over there. Failed people complain. Successful people fine opportunities. Now go away.
@agelessrocker You must live in a bubble....I wonder how old you are. I wonder when you went to school....or if you actually did. I wonder what the financial climate was like during those times. You act like what's going on now is normal and has always been and the only difference is people have become lazy. That is foolish thinking. I also wonder what you outsource and why you need to outsource. I hope you have kids and learn through their hardships.
@jallison79 MA Business Administration UC Berkeley 1884. I put myself through school working and playing music. My kids are all grown up and all have college degrees, I don't worry too much about them as they were raised to be responsible citizens and to be self reliant. If you think change is always bad, then don't join the global economy with the rest of the world. BTW, I'm done wasting time with you, so please don't respond.
@agelessrocker so when you went to school tuition was $1400 a sem. That must have been nice not to come out with major student loan debt (but I guess now they should bus tables and live with mom and dad because they're lazy). Look at things now and tell me how that's fair. You don't realize the opportunity you had and want to take from others. I'm also done with this conversation, my point is made and you are a sad hateful fucker. You will learn the hard way.
@jallison79 My kids put themselves through college. Not one of them whined like an impotent bitch like you do. Blaming society for your own failure is a hallmark of your generation, and you personally.
@agelessrocker Hey thick head...i'm not complaining because like i said before i'm doing quite well. the problem is with the inequality today which you're too stupid to understand. I swear it's like talking to my parents...willfully ignorant because you all worked so hard and anybody that complains today is so lazy. stupid shit. get cancer and die.
@jallison79 Childish wishing of disease and death only fortifies my previous statements about you. Grow up, inequality is part of being a human being. If you keep complaining to me, I'll keep laughing, because age and experience always trumps youth and arrogance.
@agelessrocker I don't know what statement you think my comment fortified. If you haven't realized there's been a major rise in cancer because of the shit we put in our food, water, etc and all those great pharmaceuticals we take. I'm just looking forward to the day your generation dies off from the shit you created with this blind ignorance that our system is great. So yes laugh it all the way....you have kids to worry about...i was smart enough not to.
Morality is contraband in war.
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mymojodojo 2 months ago
Fine interview.
It'ld be great to be able to steal the expensive purse, jewelry, etc. shown in the video and then sell them at 2x the value RT says these items presently have. To get 2x the value, go to the rich and corrupt elites, tell them about the value of this stuff, and then explain that since it's stolen, it's worth at least 2x more. These extreme thieves would surely be happy to buy such "hot" stuff to wear in public, to put their prestige on display before us all.
No?
Just an idea.
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Stevie68000 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub It's always the unsuccessful that blame me for making opportunities instead of complaining about a lack of them. Enjoy your miserable life!
agelessrocker 2 months ago
Stand for World Equality.
Avery7098 2 months ago
Get a job. Get a part time job or low wage job since that is the only jobs they are creating. Move back home with your parents and save. Forget about having a family, your dreams, your ambitions, just work for nothing till you get sick and die. This is what the government wants; workers, people just making enough to live,
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faenjegerkul 2 months ago
America land of the poor, owned by the rich.
muttgooch 2 months ago
OWS needs to start appealing to more and more groups, the same way a politician gets groups of people behind their views and cause.
krisreckner 2 months ago
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Useless garbage!!!
My house-keeper, that was an illegal Mexican immigrant, had two full-time jobs, and his wife one...so how are there no jobs? He managed to raise his two kids, and to put some money apart. This communist scum should go his paradise in China, or North Korea, along with the leeches he defends...hope I manage to cross his pass in NYC, he'll be living for free...on life-support!!!
I'm a Canadian Warrior, and a billionaire...and yes, I work 16 hours every day...
NorthWolfe 2 months ago
@NorthWolfe your are a foolish liar
vasiliosrigos 2 months ago 2
As long as we make sure these dull muons do not find out too much we should be fine.
TopAce777 2 months ago
"I Don't want to coddle the Democratic Party" Too late...
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mstrephoenix1 2 months ago
you ever suck some dick for some weed? cant say that i have... BOO THIS MAN!
mstrephoenix1 2 months ago
la'greca for congress
red88ization 2 months ago
Jesse looks fat and well-fed. He doesn't need any of the taxpayer's money.
reb618 2 months ago
Jesse LaGreca wants a welfare check. Sorry it ain't going to happen Jesse. Go on a diet and stop eating at McDonald's and all the other corporate food businesses you're fattening up on.
reb618 2 months ago
the average person can't keep up with inflation, maybe we should look at reforming the monetary policy instead of trying to treat the symptoms of it.
defgill 2 months ago
@defgill That's because the average person is a sucker who ties their salary to CPI/RPI aka "fake inflation", while the smart money and big fund guys tie their salary to money supply, which is real inflation.
gshooting 2 months ago
@gshooting it's all about resource's and guns money is an illusion...
mstrephoenix1 2 months ago
@mstrephoenix1 If it's such an illusion, why don't you just burn it then?
gshooting 2 months ago
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@gshooting wrote in reply to mstrephoenix1, "If it's such an illusion, why don't you just burn it then?"
No. Instead, give the money away to people who'll make use of it for purchases. If the money is an illusion, then it doesn't matter, for people can still make purchases with it and then the person initially with the money is freed of it and has real goods and/or services in place of the illusory money.
Don't burn it when other people can make good use of it. I receive mail :)
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
I more or less agree with this guy but at times he makes it too much about right and left
RapedByRepublicans 2 months ago
@RapedByRepublicans Jesse LaGreca doesn't make "too much about right and left", not seeming to even talk in such terms at all. I didn't notice anything like that from his words, anyway. So, what causes you to think "he makes it too much about right and left", precisely?
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
I always like this guy's point of view, but the presenter freaks me out. She's awkward
watchingneil 2 months ago
@watchingneil The presenter or hostess for the interview is fine. So, either there's something wrong with you, or I'm just not seeing what you're bothered by about her.
For her job, she did fine.
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
Hey Jesse. Max Keiser from RT says BUY SILVER. Criminal bankster Goldman Sacks will be bankrupt if American consumers decide to buy silver!!!
Check out Max Keizer, the Keizer Report on RT.
BUY SILVER.
sweetloveelmo 2 months ago
She is a terrible anchor. She is not even listening to Jesse. She just wants to get through the questions. Give her back her teleprompter
Filmchica 2 months ago
@Filmchica You're a goofball. The interview anchor did her job just fine. It's a short interview, so we shouldn't expect one that'ld be as thorough as a half-hour or one-hour interview. And the interview host or hostess needs to pose some questions or at least say something. So, what's your problem with how she conducted this interview, exactly?
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
Energy is our wealth (god), oil most of all.
People should look at a historic chart of oil production.
There you can see when the wealth of the middle class grew and when it stopped.
It grew untill the 70's and afther the oil crisis years back then the middle class hardly grew anymore, and oil production afther those years never again rose as hard as before.
Today the middle class is in decline and oil production is growing slower and slower.
I think the next part is pretty clear...
Clausewitzz 2 months ago
@Clausewitzz wrote : "Energy is our wealth ....
... Today the middle class is in decline and oil production is growing slower and slower."
It isn't lack of oil, but rather market control by the ruling elites, who play the demand & supply curve and other economic "games", with and against us.
There's plenty of oil. It's how the elites dominate and control the market that's the problem. Of course another problem is finding a good substitute for energy.
The sun isn't enough, I guess
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
@mikecorbeil
There is no controll on the ammount of fossile fuel in the ground.
Or do you think we are digging up a pit in Canada the size of Florida becaus there is enough left?
And the sun might provide all the energy we need, the problem there is that solarpanels require oil...
Clausewitzz 2 months ago
"People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principle men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd."
- J. P. Morgan
Tressco 2 months ago 2
@Tressco "The Bankers Capture the Money Machine
excerpted from the book
Web of Debt
The Shocking Truth About Our Money System And How We Can Break Free
by Ellen Hodgson Brown
Third Millennium Press, 2007, paperback"
thirdworldtraveler . com/Banks/Bankers_MoneyMachine_WOD.html
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
@Tressco Morgan seems to have spoken words describing reality, but got 2 parts wrong. Some people without homes quarrel with leaders, and the ruling elites aren't teachers. They're brainwashers, corrupt, traitors, and so on.
A true teacher must be pedagogical in character and work, and anyone intentionally misleading others is no pedagogue. Pedagogues care about their teaching and students.
So, we can just make these 2 changes in Morgan's words, to see that he's otherwise right.
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
This is so asinine as to be comical. At one time you had about 3 millionaires that ruled the "World", now you have millions, to me that is progress.
The divide wasn't even a divide at one time, it was an endless pit of despair with a clear and focused separation of " Havenchery" and "NonHavenchery".
Humankind is progressing despite the resistance of each side and it always will, hubris is the handmaiden of jealousy.
clownprince88 2 months ago
@clownprince88 What is Havenchery? I just did a Web and dict. search and don't get any matching info, so it apparently isn't a real word at all. There are some links for pages where the words haven and chery (a person's name I guess) are found, but not havenchery.
A key part of the art of communication requires being able to be understood. Without it, we won't be communicating, we'll just be making vocal sounds that have no meaning to whoever reads or hears our words.
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
@mikecorbeil
Havenchery, is a little term i made up that encompasses the words treachery and "having" , it's dangerous to want to have and not have it and it's also dangerous to have and be guilty for having it.
But ultimately it's my phrase for the ones that have and the ones that don't , at least on an possession of objects plane ( cars, houses, trinkets, clothes etc.. ).
NonHavenchery, the mindset that someone has more than you and envy is justified
clownprince88 2 months ago
When the world is on the threshold of global economic and societal collapse and when world war III is about to start, the American People pull out their credit cards and rush to their nearest Walmart en masse to buy up, in orgasmic frenzy, the latest cheap plastic Chinese made trinkets and electronic gadgets while enjoying the accompaniment of 18 different versions of Jingle Bells being played on the P.A system. Happy Holidays America!! Will that be credit or debit?
alpidistra 2 months ago
@alpidistra Sounds like the USA isn't a place to head to spend XMass holidays, based on what you wrote.
WW III started yrs ago. Many people say that if Iran is attacked, then we'll have WW III, but what we'll really have is escalation and expansion of WW III. And some people, like at ww4report . com, fe, have argued that we're in WW IV and that III was the Cold War between Washington and the former USSR; a fair p.o.v., imo.
Either way, we're in WW, already.
Wake up, sleepy heads!
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
@mikecorbeil Whether you call it III, IV or V really doesn't matter. The cold war was actually a time of relative quiet because of the balance of power. Now we're dealing with something entirely different. You are right in that mankind is always in a state of war and conflict; but that just comes with the dualistic construct we call the physical world. Matter needs polarity to manifest.
alpidistra 2 months ago
Finally an interview with an occupier that's well spoken.
Taylor2221T 2 months ago
1/6 of americans lives in poverty? WOW! and you call it bad?
4/6 of chinese lives in poverty and the poverty in china is something else than it is in america.
9/10 lives in poverty in Africa.
Russia is broke ass shit except for some few millions.
Americans just used to live in such fatness no other nation have.
nadoeloiskat 2 months ago
who the hell spends $140,000 on a bag? WHO?
kiararei 2 months ago 2
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@kiararei wrote : "who the hell spends $140,000 on a bag?"
It takes quacks to buy such things, but if you find any who will and tell me where we can "freely" pick up 1 of these purses, then I'll be glad to do that and then sell it to whatever quack is willing to blow this kind of $ for a bag.
My day-pack or small backpack : larger, more convenient, and cost $45 around 1980 or '81.
Larger and waterproof backpack, $100.
Much more practical.
But I'll take the $140,000 for the purse :)
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
Class warfare is cowardly. Just like Obama!
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professormaxtrinity 2 months ago
for thoses women who pay 140.000 dollars to have a crocodile's skin bag , i hope one day they will find themselves in the mouth of a crocodile .
TheJazairia 2 months ago 7
@TheJazairia Couldn't agree more. Its terrible. What's worse is the people have to risk their lives catching then skinning the poor croc alive for their skin is are paid literally pennies. And STILL, women put their whole savings to get this "status" bag. Vanity at its worse.
Filmchica 2 months ago
@Filmchica wrote : "... Vanity at its worse."
The killing and skinning of a croc or aligator is not "vanity at its worse", unless you think that what's being done in Africa for far over a decade for mining, oil, ... corporations of the "West" and, therefore, Wall Street to profit, plus the wars or overt wars, is less bad. To seek to profit, rather than to oppose, wars of aggression and other extreme injustices against humanity [is] the real "vanity at its worse"; couldn't be worse.
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
@Filmchica But while it isn't the worst vanity, it still is very vain to spend a lot of money for a purse, jewelry, etc. It's complete nonsense to live that way, and I guess only sociopaths could do that; people without any real or serious social conscience and who, therefore, are enemies of whatever societies they live in or are citizens of and vote in.
I came across an article recently and the title said it was about many more Lambourghinis now in the USA. War is profit/racket!
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
@TheJazairia you are a horrible person! why you want see something like this? what do you have against the crocodiles? wish one day this people get so fuck up that they will have to eat this 140.000 bag. is more humanity. ;p
Paul0Massarde 2 months ago
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mikecorbeil 2 months ago
To RTAmerica
In 2008 ABC went to Denmark to find out why the danes are the happiest people in the world. They followed a garbage man around and also talked to other people. It would be interesting if you could compare the life of an american garbage man and a danish one. Or compare the life of the danish middle class , poor people and that of the american middle class and poor americans.
theTerranEmpire3 2 months ago
This news anchor is such a mush-mouth.
reharlan 2 months ago
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@reharlan wrote : "This news anchor is such a mush-mouth."
Either that, or you have mush for brains. Which is more likely, do you think?
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
Resource based economy anyone?
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@Shredderof7Seas yes plz....it would be a good start anyways. We're an intelligent species, time to put those brains to work on how to make us the best we can be
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kopellhinex 2 months ago
@Shredderof7Seas Resource based? No sorry. The situation is bad now. I would like it to get better, not worse.
sirellyn 2 months ago
@sirellyn What kind of corrupt human are you? 30,000 children dieing everyday due to starvation, preventable diseases and extreme poverty is worse than 0? And I suppose murder and suicide rates aren't as high as you would like them?
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub Yes, like I said, I'd like things to get better. So less people dying from starvation everyday. Less people poor.
If you picked an RBE those numbers would be far worse. Mao turned nearly all the Chinese into farmers so food would be abundant. As a result, China experienced the greatest loss of life from starvation at one time in history. The death toll nearing parity with WWII.
So yes, no RBE, I want less famine, less pain and suffering thank you very much.
sirellyn 2 months ago
@sirellyn Lol HUH? What does Mao have anything to do with this? He did not try and create a RBE, far from it. The idea and intent of a RBE is to prevent famine, so how you figure somehow that it would create more is completely irrational. Current system holds food back from people who need it. RBE works on making enough food for everyone AND makes it available for everyone. I don't understand where your coming from...
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub You should learn a bit more about the people's revolution. The intention was literally the same, providing food for everyone who needed it. They thought it was bad when money held back food from thousands of poor.
Then they got to try it their way and 40+ million died from starvation.
It would be nice to distribute based on "need", but there's a number of reasons why you can't. Altruism, Omniscience, incentive, psychology, logistics, subjectivity to name a few.
sirellyn 2 months ago
@sirellyn so, are you trying to say that human beings are not altruistic? or that profit is the only incentive?
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless In case you haven't noticed humans aren't altruistic. Nor are we enslavers. We are capable of both. Like all creatures we are forward thinking survivors. Those wise enough understand to help others is to help oneself.
You can't build based on the assumptions of the strongest pieces. Imagine NASA building a rocket saying "We mixed some of that light weight super steel in there, it should carry the rest."
You don't build a social structure like that either.
sirellyn 2 months ago
@djkhaless Profit is the wealth thats left over after all materials are spent. You'd want a "profit" of air in a sealed room, or a "profit" of trees in a forest.
If you are angry that certain things (and damages) aren't calculated when determining financial profit,
GOOD. You should be!
This isn't the fault of profit, this is the fault of fraudulent omissions.
To grow or even sustain, you NEED to produce more than you have. You need fully calculated profit.
sirellyn 2 months ago
@sirellyn 1) RBE is NOTHING like communism, so stop lumping them together. 40 million people starved because farming food was labor intensive and took a large amount of the population to produce. The point of a RBE is to use our technology to our advantage. It takes a small fraction of the labor force in the past to produce food now, and most of the hard work is done by machines. People didn't starve because of human fallacies, they did because of a lack of technology.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
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@ejpetersondub wrote in reply to ejpetersondub, "... 30,000 children dieing everyday due to starvation, preventable diseases and extreme poverty is worse than 0? ..."
Well, I'ld believe that 0 (no) children dying every day would be better than 30,000 of them dying every day or year. Promote 0, not 30,000. Achieve that curve or trajectory with your income, fe, but not with the number of children unjustly dying every day. The fewer the better.
mikecorbeil 2 months ago
@Shredderof7Seas Yes, but without putting people under the total control of a centralized super computer with powers over life and death!!!! Change? Yes Computerized Tyranny? No thank you!!!!!
alpidistra 2 months ago
@alpidistra Lol what are you talking about? There is no control, no power over life or death, or tyranny in a RBE. You must be thinking of communism. Completely different.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub You obviously have not watched the Zeitgeist series in it's entirety or you have failed to understand what it is suggesting as a solution.
alpidistra 2 months ago
@alpidistra I thought the same of you. I've actually watched the last 2 movies a few times each and nowhere in them does it even hint at what you claim. Please, enlighten me to where in the movies, or the site that goes into the subject further, does it AT ALL hints at control of life or death. Please.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub The concept of global resource management in a resource based economy is covered in the second film, Zeitgeist Addendum. Watch it again and pay close attention. It states that all decision making will be done by a global centralized computer which will determine all aspects of your life. The films offer excellent analysis on what's wrong with the current system, however the solutions offered are very dangerous and materialistic. Be cautious!!
alpidistra 2 months ago
@alpidistra Nowhere did it say that a computer will make ALL decision making, or dictate any aspect of human life. It just doesn't, unless you can prove me wrong with a time that it does, because I haven;t been able to find where. What it does do, more than anything, is FREE people to do what they want. No person or computer will tell anyone what to do.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub There is no way to implement the Zeitgeist plan without compulsion. There is no way it can be arrived at by free choice. You must understand this. It was very clearly stated in Zeitgeist Addendum; you obviously only take from the film what you want and overlook the rest. Again, there are some very good ideas in it but it includes some major flaws that makes the whole thing just another form of tyranny.
alpidistra 2 months ago
@alpidistra explain how it could become a tyranny?
There is no doubt that RBE has flaws, as does every system, but it is an evolution in economic systems. Capitalism is currently turning itself into fascism (for it's inherent in the system), but I would never through away all the good things capitalism has achieved for us. Wanting to evolve past old outdated systems is intelligent and logical, nothing more.
djkhaless 2 months ago
@alpidistra Of course it can be arrived at by free choice, its just a matter of convincing people, which I admit will probably never happen, but it is possible. It is not clearly stated, or stated at all. You keep "quoting" the film on things that it simply doesn't say. Your basically lying out of your pooper. Please reference the section that states: this can only be done by force".
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub Oh really? Just how do you people plan on herding the world's population into compact cities? How do you plan on getting people to give up their private property? How do you plan to get people to give the use of money? How do you plan to get people to "work for the good of society"? Your stupid Zeitgeist plan remains simply a theory unless you have the guts to force people into it. Its been tried before, its called communism.
alpidistra 2 months ago
@alpidistra Um, the idea isn't to herd anyone anywhere, or to take private property from anyone, or get people to work. Your not even talking about a RBE, your talking about slavery and that is the exact opposite of a RBE. It seems impossible to get people to willingly give up the use of money, but that is the idea. If anyone is forced to do anything than it no longer exists and it changes into something else.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@alpidistra Don't insult yourself by calling it communism. A RBE is obviously, absolutely nothing like communism. Such a statement proves without a doubt you have absolutely no idea what your talking about, even more so than you making things up out of nowhere.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub Yes it is theory, and forcing anyone to do anything completely goes against the theory. The whole point is to get people to evolve on an intellectual level and come together with the understanding of what needs to be done to not only save humanity from itself, but to prosper and truly live freely. Sounds impossible, and maybe it is, but don't retard the idea because you can't fathom it.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@alpidistra You completely missed the main concept. There are no leaders, there is no imposing of anything, no telling people where to live or what to do. If there is an elite, or if someone is telling you what to do then that is not the RBE that is being proposed, that is something different. Again absolutely nowhere in the movie does it say that anyone is forced to go anywhere or do anything. Your completely making that up based on your own fear of change.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub Of course it doesn't say it anywhere in the movie; they're not that stupid. It simply takes intelligence and familiarity with history and philosophy to understand between the lines. There is no way to implement such a plan as outlined in the Zeitgeist films without force. People will not give up private property, money or the freedom to live where they want. You'll always have an elite form in such a system who will define for you what is "good for society" or not.
alpidistra 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub Just as all previous attempts to impose "equality", an elite group of leaders will invariably arise with the Venus Project as a privileged group of programmers who will be in charge of this global centralized computer. It will determine where you live, what job is assigned to you, what and how much you shall eat etc etc. Beware of red flag phrases such as "carrying capacity" and "overpopulation"; dead giveaways!!
alpidistra 2 months ago
@alpidistra Dude....what does carrying capacity mean?
djkhaless 2 months ago
@alpidistra You're wrong man...the computer doesn't make the decisions, it is there for resource management. Computers are only tools, and Peter Joseph knows this all too well. It's like when you take your car to be serviced: the computer tells the mechanic what is wrong and where it is wrong, but he must make the choices on how best to proceed, and he will sometimes collaborate with co-workers in the same technical field
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless You people are falling into the age-old cult trap with this personality worship of Peter Joseph. Don't look to a personality for solving the world's problems. You've got to find the spiritual solution within which will help project the change you want on a collective basis, not following some messianic figure, (an obscure musician chosen as a front man or mascot for a globalist plan). It's just repackaged atheism and materialism for the naive.
alpidistra 2 months ago
@alpidistra Please don't make assumptions about me, I definitely do not worship Peter Joseph. He has some good ideas, nothing more. I agree that spiritual evolution is EXTREMELY important for our advancement as a species. I am spiritual myself, and believe we need to change our perspective of separateness to that of us all being one. We are one. Apparently you miss 2 portent features of RBE, education and consciousness shift, these things must come first
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless Okay. We need to explore the very nature of matter and understand that the world system is sustained by dualism. Therefore it is good that you understand the spiritual aspect of all this. Look into quantum physics as well as read the chapter "Science of Being" in the book "Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures" by Mary Baker Eddy for good info. Joel Goldsmith, Ramana Maharshi and A Course in Miracles are also very good tools for changing the paradigm.
alpidistra 2 months ago
@Shredderof7Seas Absolutely.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
usa becoming the new china because less benefits and less money?
MommyKiller1 2 months ago
Change will not come from Congress or Wall St. It has to come from YOU, American consumer. You wonder why you are poor and they are rich, when it is you who spends all your money on their USELESS products. Not to mention all the interest you pay to have more material goods now instead of later using credit cards. STOP consuming so much and SAVE your money.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub Although you are absolutely correct about people being consumed by materialism and living beyond their means, you are wrong that this changes any "real" balance of economic power. You will not become an "elite" by being an intelligent frugal consumer.
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless Is that what this is all about? Everyone becoming "elite'? If so then there is no solution because that is physically impossible. If you want to stop being in debt, stop borrowing. If you want to stop being poor, stop spending. If you want to stop supporting the 1% then stop giving them all your money in exchange for useless crap. Simple as that.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub You're absolutely, not everyone can be elite. What I want is evolution of the global socio-economic environment. I want our species to evolve economically, politically, and culturally. I want a tenable world for everyone on the planet and those who will replace us all...a species who is out for the species' growth, advancement and efficiency.
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless I am with you there except that I think that politics is what holds back our evolution. It is politics that corrupts humanity, and it should be killed like a cancer.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub Politics as it exists today I agree. But really, we need to reach a condition where politics is part of everyone's everyday life, inseparable from normal social living for the average citizen. It is not the social science of politics in and of itself, but how we use that social science that is the problem.
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless I will respectfully disagree. Politics is what it is today and yesterday because it is politics. It is a corrupted and outdated process and does nothing but hold us back, in my opinion.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
@ejpetersondub "Politics is a process by which groups of people make collective decisions." If this is the case, which it is, then as I said before, politics is inseparable from everyday life. If we sit down and discuss whether we want to build a road or a new school or anything, the very decision making process IS politics. Blaming politics for our ills is like saying guns kill people.
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless I disagree. That wiki-definition may be applied to the Greek system that created politics, but that is far from what the term is used for today. It goes on to say that the term is "applied to the art or science of running governmental or state affairs". A lot of such affairs are not collectively decided on. We can get rid of our entire political system and still sit down to decide things. It is our particular system that is the cancer of humanity.
ejpetersondub 2 months ago
Not all of the Bronx is bad because the northern Bronx is the suburbs unlike the South Bronx.
98bigbutt 2 months ago
The solution is to end corruption in congress. That is it.
ENDAMERICASOON 2 months ago
What ruined America was free trade. Ross Perot warned us about that sucking sound which was our job going overseas but the big establishments were too good to listen. They knew that the middle class would be wiped out eventually but they did not car because it does not affect them. Look at us know ! Our government is too big too corrupted which will lead to Americas crash.
ENDAMERICASOON 2 months ago
@ENDAMERICASOON
Government regulated "free trade", not really that free. Businesses going over seas because of too much regulation and taxation. Cost efficiency is favored over patriotism when it comes to business.
asperin 2 months ago
@asperin Businesses went overseas because labour is cheaper....it's all about profits. Unless you let the corporations gouge peoples wages, they will go offshore for their labour
djkhaless 2 months ago
Implementation of socialism will inevitably bring more poverty into US, it is historical fact. People just don't understand that if money is distributed evenly without being earned no one will work, government will take more control and more liberty will be lost . The entire country population will diminish.
zen5678 2 months ago
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oliverlaw02 2 months ago
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@zen5678 "Implementation of socialism will inevitably bring more poverty." How you come to that conclusion when this is just a normal inevitable cycle of capitalism? Only this time it has the potential to destroy itself if the poor refuse to bail out the rich yet again.
oliverlaw02 2 months ago
@zen5678 When has it been proven tho?
Socialism works great in Scandinavia, The Netherlands and Germany. And that is just for Europe. Yes it's not 100% socialism, but it's also not 100% Capitalism. It's like a merger of the 2 systems. Funny tho, how these countries have one of the best educational, healthcare, infrastructure systems in the world. Also a lower poverty and criminal rates than less equal countries.
In contrary. The more equal a country, the better these systems are + lower crime
WGutjens 2 months ago
@WGutjens
America is more Socialist than Scandinavia and it's doing really bad.
In Scandinavia welfare is focused locally, in America is focused externally. If it wasn't for the US mafia government giving billions to other countries and spending trillions in militarization/war, it would have better standards than Scandinavia.
The goal of the global elite is to destroy America. America has a constitution like no other, its message of Individualism is a threat to the elite.
asperin 2 months ago
@asperin Name the social programmes in the US. Now compare to Scandinavia or the netherlands etc. You'll see that they're not more social. You only recently got a health care act together! Something that has been here for decades. Just to name a simple point. :)
WGutjens 2 months ago
@WGutjens They are able to do that thanks to a strong manufacturing sector and low government regulation. Something that US does not have. Germany would be much more prosperous and equal without those near complete socialist PIGGS dragging them down and if government allow the private sector to take over much public programs and allow more competition.
zen5678 2 months ago
@zen5678 Right now there is more and more privatisation in the Healthcare sector and Educational sector. Aswell as other sectors such as infrastructure. Results for us here in our country:
LESS QUALITY HIGHER COSTS. In short.
Educational costs are going up the more privatisation is applied. The quality is going down rapidly.
Healthcare costs are exploding through the roof, yet quality is declining even FASTER down the drain.
public transport privatised. Nothing but delays and HIGH prices.
WGutjens 2 months ago
@zen5678 I wish you were right, but shamefully you're not. It might work in the US but the US isn't europe. In europe, the more social a country is, the better it becomes. = ]
WGutjens 2 months ago
@WGutjens Then you will get what is coming at you when everyone doesn't work, no more farmers to make food and you can't get anything from the money you got from the government. It will make today look like paradise.
zen5678 2 months ago
@zen5678 Right.. as if capitalism is working so well for the USA huh.=[ People working like slaves for little income, earning less and less a year since more and more keeps hanging in the companies/ceo's/banks. Health being very expensive. 1 in 6 in poverty.
Eventually both systems lead to the same:A lot of power in the hands of a few.A lot of wealth in the hands of a few.Neither system is perfect, both have mayor flaws. Shamefully people are too asleep to see that capitalism too fails en masse
WGutjens 2 months ago
@WGutjens not free-market capitalism.
zen5678 2 months ago
@zen5678 you need to get out of the propaganda bubble of differentiating between capitalism and free-market capitalism. They are one in the same and follow a basic principle that ALL property is private, this is capitalism's greatest strength, and it is also capitalism's ultimate doom.
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless you are going against the founding fathers' ideology made your country was the greatest during that period. Doing everything opposite to it, well you know what happened to zimbabewae.
zen5678 2 months ago
@zen5678 Sorry, but I'm not from your country, and don't really care that much about imaginary lines. For me everyone is part of the human species. And holding onto ideologies that are failing, like capitalism, is not only stupid, but detrimental to our species as a whole. Just as hanging on to past economic systems would have been. We moved past failing systems, the time has come again, not a huge deal. Capitalism has given us great advancements and growth, it's just a worn out tire now is all
djkhaless 2 months ago 2
@djkhaless And you imply socialism is a better system? There is only free-market capitalism, a mixture of both(which is today) called facism/crony capitalism, or just plain socialism. Capitalism is the better system of them all. If USA wants to learn things the hard way like Weimar Germany, go ahead. You guys are heading in that direction anyhow.
zen5678 2 months ago
@zen5678 I hope you can remain loyal to this new system when average citizens start plundering each other because there won't be enough food for everyone
zen5678 2 months ago
@zen5678 are you from the school of thought that says people only get incentive from profit?
djkhaless 2 months ago
No one can be surprised by this. The goal of the elite is to make everyone else subservient to their will; to make you slaves for their own prosperity. The USA is a KLEPTOCRACY. The money -like hot air- floats to the top. Your job in society is to be a working-class scum that will NEVER escape your unending, ever-increasing debt. Your vote is a joke. Congress exists only to serve the elite (they are the elite). The president is a puppet for the corporate elite.
bluesgurugod 2 months ago 31
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CAPITALISM creates ELITE CRIMINALS. BANKERS. DRUG LORDS. INEQUALITY. INSECURITY. GREED. RUTHLESS COMMUNISM. NWO. NAZI. TERRORISM. LAZY PEOPLE. REBEL POLITICIAN. ANARCHY. worst is WAR etc.. etc..
CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
kopellhinex 2 months ago
@bluesgurugod I try to tell people the exact same thing. They don't understand...
NTA11 2 months ago
One of the last things he said was something about not wanting to see this movement end. In order for the people to be heard they must never stop demanding to be heard...
TruthatCearcie 2 months ago
ahhh this news anchor does not seem to feel it. She does her job, but you dont feel it.
bullshit3118 2 months ago
Bad new about America is, well, just good news in general lol, Please suffer more! For fifty cents a day you too can help some poor americano dirtpicker last through the day to face more misery tomorrow lol!
jczg08alt 2 months ago 2
YUCK at this "we need more laws and revenue for the state" bullshit
WorthlessCurrency 2 months ago
Yes they will attack but it is to late the people have woken up on the largest scale. I am fortunate to still have my job. I cant stand the fact that my fellow Americans are losing their homes while these thieves buy $150,000 necklaces and go on $300,000 vacations. True that we live in a free country these crooks get their money by stealing it. Lets lock them up for a change.
1979john1979 2 months ago
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..." -- Winston Churchill
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker you drive on a public street? socialist! you ever you to a public library? why? Are you a socialist?
Socialism exists within all of our societies. You have a gross misunderstanding of socialism perpetuated through propaganda of globalists. Is socialism tenable as a stand alone system...not a chance. Much respect for Mr.Churchill, but is statement is way of the mark from any true depiction of socialism.
djkhaless 2 months ago
@djkhaless If you love socialism so fucking much, move to North Korea and see how great it is, goddamned idiot.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker why move to north korea dumb ass i can go to cuba and next time you have an a pussy ache and your house is on fire LET IT BURN DONT CALL FOR HELP BECAUSE THATS SOCIALISM!
mstrephoenix1 2 months ago
@mstrephoenix1 Punishing the successful to give to the lazy is your utopia. Inequality is a fact of human existence. Always has been, always will be. Deal with it.......Fuckhead.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker so we should just be poor and let out way of life slip through out fingers because "that's the way it is".... ok that makes sense..don't fight or argue for your life if your poor you deserve it.
Belo118 2 months ago
@Belo118 There are plenty of opportunities out there to better yourself if you're not a lazy piece of shit. Why should you get a free ride just because others work harder than you?
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker Oh NO! darling I work! LOL and yo are RIGHT..they are LAZY...ALL those PEOPLE are JUST a bunch OF LAZY ASSES! all that work out there! and they don't want to work! all the OPORTUNITIES! and they don't want to! SO LAZY! LAZY LAZY LAZY Americans, begging like dogs..... LOL (really dude?)
Belo118 2 months ago
@Belo118 I didn't realize I was talking to an illiterate 12 year old. Ever heard of the department of workforce services? state department of unemployment? SOS training? Grants, loans, library resources, community colleges, technical colleges, etc? Never mind replying. Children bore me.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker oh now i'm kid..lol ok then.... but they are lazy yes or no?...I mean I AM agreeing with you...LAZY LAZY...all the things they could do and choose not to...sound like lazy people to me.... =)
Belo118 2 months ago
@Belo118 Repeating yourself in capital letters bores me. bye.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker You are misinformed if you believe that. My girlfriend with a college degree and good work experience looked for a job for over a year, applying for everything out there including those jobs she was overly qualified for and ended up taking a part time job at a non profit because that was her only option. Numbers do not lie and there's no denying the gap of inequality and joblessness that has grown over the past decade.
jallison79 2 months ago
@jallison79 Sometimes you gotta bus tables, flip burgers, mop floors to get by. Inequality is a human fact. Do you think the successful should be punished because there are a lack of jobs? Would you like the gov't to tell you how much money you are allowed to earn before they take the rest? If you want equality, go to North Korea.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker There are only so many of those jobs. And what happens when the middle class goes away, who's going to go out to eat. I'd prefer to have equality hear in a country that claims to be democratic. You are obviously to stupid to put 2 + 2 together and realize that our system is bought and represent the .1% and because of that we are where we are today. But yeah go ahead and blame all problems on the straw many "Lazy people" while the real crooks take it all.
jallison79 2 months ago
@jallison79 Corporations depend on middle class workers, they aren't going away. Do you think GM, Microsoft, Aliantek, Boeing, etc are going to all disappear? You're 1% squeals are hilarious, as you can't name one person....just some allusive "them" that's making your life the shitpile it is. Sorry pal, get a fucking job, log off.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker Oh how sad you are. Funny thing is I probably have a much better job than you do and consider myself quite happy. The problem with most corporations, including all you listed, is that technology is coming to the point that it's inefficient to employee the type of workforce they once did years ago. And those jobs that they actually need labor are being outsourced to third world countries where we basically get slave labor. But hey I guess you want that here to.
jallison79 2 months ago
@jallison79 Insecurity is what makes people brag. That aside, I work for a multi-national and outsourcing is one of the best things that ever happened to us. We can introduce new products into the marketplace 4 times faster than before, because our resources are freed up to do so. Initial production happens here, so nobody has lost their jobs. Our engineering department has quadrupled in size in 7 years. Have a nice day, and enjoy pretending to be happy.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker Good luck introducing products to a market place that's dried out because of idiotic thinking like you've shown. Continue to attack what the mainstream media makes you think the problem is. Ignore the real problem and statistics and follow your gut feeling. I will continue to have nice days...thanks for caring.
jallison79 2 months ago
@jallison79 We don't need your silly luck. Our stock has tripled in price in 2 years and our Asian and Indian markets have created massive new markets for us. That's right, good old USA designs being sold en masse over there. Failed people complain. Successful people fine opportunities. Now go away.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker You must live in a bubble....I wonder how old you are. I wonder when you went to school....or if you actually did. I wonder what the financial climate was like during those times. You act like what's going on now is normal and has always been and the only difference is people have become lazy. That is foolish thinking. I also wonder what you outsource and why you need to outsource. I hope you have kids and learn through their hardships.
jallison79 2 months ago
@jallison79 MA Business Administration UC Berkeley 1884. I put myself through school working and playing music. My kids are all grown up and all have college degrees, I don't worry too much about them as they were raised to be responsible citizens and to be self reliant. If you think change is always bad, then don't join the global economy with the rest of the world. BTW, I'm done wasting time with you, so please don't respond.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker so when you went to school tuition was $1400 a sem. That must have been nice not to come out with major student loan debt (but I guess now they should bus tables and live with mom and dad because they're lazy). Look at things now and tell me how that's fair. You don't realize the opportunity you had and want to take from others. I'm also done with this conversation, my point is made and you are a sad hateful fucker. You will learn the hard way.
jallison79 2 months ago
@jallison79 My kids put themselves through college. Not one of them whined like an impotent bitch like you do. Blaming society for your own failure is a hallmark of your generation, and you personally.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker Hey thick head...i'm not complaining because like i said before i'm doing quite well. the problem is with the inequality today which you're too stupid to understand. I swear it's like talking to my parents...willfully ignorant because you all worked so hard and anybody that complains today is so lazy. stupid shit. get cancer and die.
jallison79 2 months ago
@jallison79 Childish wishing of disease and death only fortifies my previous statements about you. Grow up, inequality is part of being a human being. If you keep complaining to me, I'll keep laughing, because age and experience always trumps youth and arrogance.
agelessrocker 2 months ago
@agelessrocker I don't know what statement you think my comment fortified. If you haven't realized there's been a major rise in cancer because of the shit we put in our food, water, etc and all those great pharmaceuticals we take. I'm just looking forward to the day your generation dies off from the shit you created with this blind ignorance that our system is great. So yes laugh it all the way....you have kids to worry about...i was smart enough not to.
jallison79 2 months ago