I wonder why the officially imposed interpretation says that the serpent in the Garden was "Satan". I don't see this in the Biblical texts as "the thing to believe" about the story (and I see all of this as symbolic stories with deep psychological meanings and not as mere historic events). I find it odd that later Moses raises a bronze snake on a cross and later on it says' just as Moses lifted up the brazen serpent (on a pole or Tau cross), so too must the Son of Man be lifted'...interesting!
part2... In the story of Eden, there is a tree with a serpent... in Norse we have the World Tree with the dragon gnawing at the roots ... in the 11th Labour of Heracles we find the serpent Ladon guarding the tree of the "blissful" apples of the Hesperides. In India we find the Kundalini "coiled" serpent symbol representing energy rising up through levels in the body. Even the Kabbalah's Tree of Life of Sephirot is a tree (and some have drawn a serpent onto this). All these systems seem linked
lol someone removed my comment...lol why are all the presuppers so scared of Dawson Bethrick?!?! lol its funny really, they all get in a tizzy and resort to name calling!!!! A M A Z I N G!
its sad that someone who calls himself a christian would call me a moron for challenging the idea of truth. I cant believe I have been disrespected like this by someone who considers themself an intellectual. Im flabbergasted. lol if you think objectivism is ignorance thats like saying "knowledge is ignorance" lol...absolutely amazing. I was making a challenge of truth, I will not stoop to the level of name calling. have a good day sir
to actionjackson, i bet you would...you dont have to prove anything which is the basis of all his ridiculolus ideas. you can therefore say basically whatever you want. you are a moron for actually falling prey to bethriks ideals. i would say that it is ignorance, but there is no such thing as ignorance in todays "internet" society; therefore, its stupidity.
this man is scared of Dawson Bethrick and I challenge him to debate any of dawsons posts. he marked my comments as spam when they were not offensive at all.
i bet you would...you dont have to prove anything which is the basis of all his ridiculolus ideas. you can therefore say basically whatever you want. you are a moron for actually falling prey to bethriks ideals. i would say that it is ignorance, but there is no such thing as ignorance in todays "internet" society; therefore, its stupidity.
@i bet you would...you dont have to prove anything which is the basis of all his ridiculolus ideas. you can therefore say basically whatever you want. you are a moron for actually falling prey to bethriks ideals. i would say that it is ignorance, but there is no such thing as ignorance in todays "internet" society; therefore, its stupidity.
@actionjackson864 i bet you would...you dont have to prove anything which is the basis of all his ridiculolus ideas. you can therefore say basically whatever you want. you are a moron for actually falling prey to bethriks ideals. i would say that it is ignorance, but there is no such thing as ignorance in todays "internet" society; therefore, its stupidity.
The nature of the human mind is to see things in black and white, good and evil, and all the other polarities relative to physical earthly incarnations. The mind is thus split instead of Holy, and religion perpetuates the illusion of separation from God with it's never ending war between good and evil. Time to look a little deeper.
i highly doubt this comment will pend approval but if it does heres a good question: is it better to be ignorant and blissfull or to be intelegent and burdened. adam and eve before they ate the fruit were like sheep or cattle, not knowing anything and blissfuly doing nothing but eating, relaxing, and reproducing but when they ate the fruit they became like god understanding good and evil and knowledge, but being forced to use it to survive a harsh life. which is better?
@nairda55555 "...is it better to be ignorant and blissful or to be intelligent and burdened. adam and eve before they ate the fruit were like sheep or cattle...which is better?"
Baaaaa! Learning things are not as we've taught, not even close, is painful!
Right up to the point of Gnosis where the pain is replaced by knowing, but how many will make it to that point and not get swept up in the negativity?
You know, I am a Christian and I have been having this discussion with my closest brothers in the faith... Our conversation has surrounded the concept of what is good and how 'good' has become relative in modern times....
1st. who is to say that they would have learnd of evil? evreything was sinless so there was no evil on earth so God wouldnt teach that to them.
2nd. she did not reject God she rejected his morals. she never denied from his exsistence infact she still respected hm and feard him enough to hide from him when they had sinned.
I wonder why the officially imposed interpretation says that the serpent in the Garden was "Satan". I don't see this in the Biblical texts as "the thing to believe" about the story (and I see all of this as symbolic stories with deep psychological meanings and not as mere historic events). I find it odd that later Moses raises a bronze snake on a cross and later on it says' just as Moses lifted up the brazen serpent (on a pole or Tau cross), so too must the Son of Man be lifted'...interesting!
zetetic0void 1 year ago
part2... In the story of Eden, there is a tree with a serpent... in Norse we have the World Tree with the dragon gnawing at the roots ... in the 11th Labour of Heracles we find the serpent Ladon guarding the tree of the "blissful" apples of the Hesperides. In India we find the Kundalini "coiled" serpent symbol representing energy rising up through levels in the body. Even the Kabbalah's Tree of Life of Sephirot is a tree (and some have drawn a serpent onto this). All these systems seem linked
zetetic0void 1 year ago
lol someone removed my comment...lol why are all the presuppers so scared of Dawson Bethrick?!?! lol its funny really, they all get in a tizzy and resort to name calling!!!! A M A Z I N G!
actionjackson864 1 year ago
its sad that someone who calls himself a christian would call me a moron for challenging the idea of truth. I cant believe I have been disrespected like this by someone who considers themself an intellectual. Im flabbergasted. lol if you think objectivism is ignorance thats like saying "knowledge is ignorance" lol...absolutely amazing. I was making a challenge of truth, I will not stoop to the level of name calling. have a good day sir
actionjackson864 1 year ago
to actionjackson, i bet you would...you dont have to prove anything which is the basis of all his ridiculolus ideas. you can therefore say basically whatever you want. you are a moron for actually falling prey to bethriks ideals. i would say that it is ignorance, but there is no such thing as ignorance in todays "internet" society; therefore, its stupidity.
oh and hey mr uttinger, its will.
bv3233 1 year ago
@bv3233
I dont understand your animosity. would you get mad if you discovered theism was not true? wouldnt the truth make you happy?
actionjackson864 1 year ago
this man is scared of Dawson Bethrick and I challenge him to debate any of dawsons posts. he marked my comments as spam when they were not offensive at all.
actionjackson864 1 year ago
i bet you would...you dont have to prove anything which is the basis of all his ridiculolus ideas. you can therefore say basically whatever you want. you are a moron for actually falling prey to bethriks ideals. i would say that it is ignorance, but there is no such thing as ignorance in todays "internet" society; therefore, its stupidity.
oh and hey mr uttinger, its will.
bv3233 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@i bet you would...you dont have to prove anything which is the basis of all his ridiculolus ideas. you can therefore say basically whatever you want. you are a moron for actually falling prey to bethriks ideals. i would say that it is ignorance, but there is no such thing as ignorance in todays "internet" society; therefore, its stupidity.
oh and hey mr uttinger, its will.
bv3233 1 year ago
@actionjackson864 i bet you would...you dont have to prove anything which is the basis of all his ridiculolus ideas. you can therefore say basically whatever you want. you are a moron for actually falling prey to bethriks ideals. i would say that it is ignorance, but there is no such thing as ignorance in todays "internet" society; therefore, its stupidity.
oh and hey mr uttinger, its will.
bv3233 1 year ago
good is for everyone evil is against everyone a person is with and for everyone and opposed to everyone and everyone's for a person and opposed
p16e5t20 2 years ago
The nature of the human mind is to see things in black and white, good and evil, and all the other polarities relative to physical earthly incarnations. The mind is thus split instead of Holy, and religion perpetuates the illusion of separation from God with it's never ending war between good and evil. Time to look a little deeper.
dagoose109 2 years ago
fairly perceptive nairda55555. i agree
medsforkids 2 years ago
my mom said god gave women periods as a punishment from eve getting that apple
blahblahblahjjjjcccc 2 years ago
@blahblahblahjjjjcccc wow... what?-_-
maxb8097 1 year ago
i highly doubt this comment will pend approval but if it does heres a good question: is it better to be ignorant and blissfull or to be intelegent and burdened. adam and eve before they ate the fruit were like sheep or cattle, not knowing anything and blissfuly doing nothing but eating, relaxing, and reproducing but when they ate the fruit they became like god understanding good and evil and knowledge, but being forced to use it to survive a harsh life. which is better?
nairda55555 2 years ago 2
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@nairda55555 "...is it better to be ignorant and blissful or to be intelligent and burdened. adam and eve before they ate the fruit were like sheep or cattle...which is better?"
Baaaaa! Learning things are not as we've taught, not even close, is painful!
Right up to the point of Gnosis where the pain is replaced by knowing, but how many will make it to that point and not get swept up in the negativity?
UnoRaza 1 year ago
burtbou1985,
You are incorrect - the tree was existant NOT a metaphor
lastdaysguitar 2 years ago
You know, I am a Christian and I have been having this discussion with my closest brothers in the faith... Our conversation has surrounded the concept of what is good and how 'good' has become relative in modern times....
billionaireby16 3 years ago
That, or it could be a long-winded allegory with the moral, "ignorance is bliss."
Gorillathehun 3 years ago
this guy is great
kingdave7 4 years ago
Hey Greg!
I learned a lot from this man back in the day.
patrissimo 4 years ago
1st. who is to say that they would have learnd of evil? evreything was sinless so there was no evil on earth so God wouldnt teach that to them.
2nd. she did not reject God she rejected his morals. she never denied from his exsistence infact she still respected hm and feard him enough to hide from him when they had sinned.
btw,I like the videos.
tjdafooter 4 years ago