Yom Kippur at Beth Israel 1/10 - Rabbi Jonathan Cahn

[Fafasungrass]

Finally!! A fulfiled religion (truth)!!! Judaism passionate about yeshua HaMeshiach (Jesus the Messiah)!!! Adonai bless!!!

[Menechem]

I maintain a Jewish identity, however, I do not keep Torah. I celebrate the Holidays and Shabbat, but I am fully committed to Christ. You guys are a real blessing!

[Menechem]

Very nice to see a Yeshua centred church. I am a Jew, was orthodox before I came to Christ, I am now a Baptist, and member of a Southern Baptist Messianic church. Rarely do I see here in Canada Messianic churches centred around Christ, it's usually Torah and Yeshua. This is awesome! Chazak u'varukh! Where did you get that Tallit pastor?

[mtcanz]

@Menechem I'm not the pastor -- merely a member -- so I'm not sure where Rabbi Jonathan gets his tallit. I'll have to ask him!

Everything is about Yeshua-- it all points to Him.

Baruch Haba Bashem Adonai Yeshua!

[Menechem]

@mtcanz Please do. I'm actually on my way to seminary, but before I do that I am making a detour at Moody, for Jewish studies. Would love to have a new Tallis for when I go Stateside.

[egwpisteuw]

It's always interesting to watch worship from the Hebrew/Christian perspective. I think the use of the Hebrew in worship adds another dimension to the service. The fundamentalist churches I attend/have attended do not bring that in. I pray in both Hebrew and Greek in our group prayer services, translating each sentence into English, and I feel it adds enormously to my prayers (I'm not sure how much they like it but no one complains).

[mtcanz]

@egwpisteuw

It brought things so much more to life - discovering the dynamic that exists between the two covenants/testaments. We still learn so much about our anticipated face to face meeting with Messiah who now dwells in light unapproachable by bringing that light (Spirit) to bear on the Image of God (Col, Heb) in the NT and looking into the detailed shapes of the shadows we find cast in the Hebrew scriptures (law).

If you ever make it north, visit B.I.- I know you'll be blessed

[egwpisteuw]

@mtcanz I have always wanted to visit a Messainic Jewish Congregation (if that is the proper term for B.I.) so maybe I will.

By the way, if you ever want to check out worship from a Greek perspective, go to Greek Orthodox's channel, He has tons of chants in Koine Greek. My favorites are the chants from the Septuagint Psalms, especially Psalm 134 (135) (you can find it in my favorites). This is what worship in the first century church probably sounded like--it's incredible.

[eurolease24]

northeast ohio!

[eurolease24]

cleveland is my way of saying cleveberg! just being silly!

[eurolease24]

amish country!

[eurolease24]

cleveberg! we're next door neighbors! i used to do lots of biz in manheim buying cars near philly .really miss that.theres moose in maine, no?

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

Yes, I'm about an 90 minutes from Amish country in Lehigh Valley area - not familiar with Cleveberg.

Lots of moose in Maine.

Blessings!

[eurolease24]

hey. youre all right, btw! and happy new year to you! where u from? just out of curiosity. and where your family from? have a nice day!

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

I'm blessed!

I'm from Maine originally - living in PA now with my wife and kids - attending Beth Israel for the last 8 years.

How about you, euro? Feel free to IM me.

Again, I'm really blessed you have hung in for the back and forh.

Baruch Haba

[eurolease24]

i realize christianity is based on judaism. and thats fine with me. i love my christian neighbors. i just dont want something forced down my throat. u can believe. but let others have their own belief.thats all. live and let live.

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

I understand - we aren't to force anything. It can't be forced - salvation must be received with a humble, true heart.

But, I have to proclaim what God has given me to proclaim. He has put something in me (when I was in my late 30's) that I simply cannot ignore or deny.

Even the Tanakh says in Isaiah that God gave the Jewish people to be a "light to the gentiles" or "nations". The world was to learn of God by way of Israel ... which raises another very interesting point.

[eurolease24]

blood? im sorry. no offense. but jews simply follow a different tradition. lets live and let live. u dont have to follow our tradition. and we wont force you to follow ours. but obviously history has shown us that people dont act that way. follow us or we'll kill u. how do u explain that oh pious one? btw have any jews ever done that? (not to say we're perfect, cuz we're not).

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

There were various sects of judaism even going back to the first century. It may be a sect you do not like, but Christianity is judaism.

Re: tradition - euro, please consider what was the first Jewish act. Abraham breaking free from tradition by hearing God's call to him personally! Tradition (outer garments) are wonderful, but the life is in God's Word and Spirit. He said things that He meant - one that He would send His Messiah.

Do you believe there was to be a Messiah?

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

Also, I will not defend what is defenseless; that crusades were horrible. It is a tragic and sad truth that much of what called itself the church through the centuries was filled with anti-semitism. Christians are _wrong_ when they try to spin that. We must call evil evil. Yeshua taught we are not to be respecter's of men (show favoritism).

Any Christian who doesn't have a love for Yeshua's natural people - the Jews - I would have to question their conversion - birth in Christ.

[eurolease24]

oh. thank you for the lesson. btw. happy new year!:)

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

thanks for the well wish, euro :)

Happy Rosh Hashana (which is actually "Yom Terua", the day of the trumpet or "trumpet blast")

Shalom

[eurolease24]

u claim to want to follow your lord but u dont follow any of the traditions and ceremonies which he did. and every jew does. how ironic. honor your lord by ignoring all of his traditions?! or did you celebrate the high holidays? cuz no christians i know did. isnt that interesting? hehe.:)

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24 This is a great question, euro. First, are you Jewish?

It's funny you say we don't observe the high holidays when that's what this video is -- our observance of it. Secondly, the very purpose OF the Feasts was to point to Messiah. They are about Him. He is the Passover, He saw no corruption, He is the first fruit from the dead, etc., etc.

You act as though you practice the feast days, but I would ask you - where is the blood?

(cont....)

[mtcanz]

(part II) - BLOOD

If Jews are following the practices of the Torah, then where is the blood atonement? We recognize we are no longer under the law, but you do not. You therefore continue to be under the full obligation of it.

Have you kept the law, euro? If not, what are you doing about that? How holy is God?

[eurolease24]

btw beth israel isnt a temple. its a church. and thats okay. but lets call a spade a spade.

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

1) Beth Israel is not referred to as a temple, but as a "congregation" in my description. We are observing -- looking back into the shadows that point forward to Maschiach. "Christianity", whether one likes this or not, is a Jewish faith.

2) temple is from the Hebrew "heykal", which can mean a "palace of God as king"

3) church is from the Greek word "ekklesia", which means, "the gathering" or "assembly"

4) synagogue, ekklesia, and church mean virtually the same thing

Shalom

[eurolease24]

typical liars response. ur best bet is believe what u want and dont be officious. live and let live. dont feel the need to dominate others.

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

If you're going to make the claim of lying, you need to back it up, euro. Again, if you want to discuss it, I'm willing. If you just want to throw around your accusations, that's not going to fly here. Fair?

What you appear to want is for me to follow you instead of my Lord's command to me - to share the good news of the gospel. That gospel is found all throughout the Hebrew feasts in prophetic shadows. Yeshua is found in every book of the Hebrew Scriptures.

Shalom

[eurolease24]

y do christians stop at nothing to attempt to convert jews? and y dont they follow the traditions that jesus held to? its duplicitous lying, im sorry to say.

[mtcanz]

@eurolease24

How can you possibly write that second question after your first one? Have you actually read the words of Yeshua (Jesus)? His teachings? Who was He talking to? "Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand" - He said that to whom?

Salvation is to the Jew first, and then to the gentile.

Regarding your last comment, what lying? There is absolutely nothing dishonest in this. If you'd like, I'm more than happy to discuss this with you.

Shalom

[moranih]

jjstine41, you and your church are in the right path. God bless you in seeking Him by revealing all you need for your complete walk with Him. Praise be to Him who reigns on high.

[jjstine41]

I am a Gentile who is searching the Scriptures to practice what G-d commanded. I thought all of my life that Messiah Yeshua made the Law obselete, but I have discovered that His Laws were forever. Thank you for sharing this video. My church has started celebrating the feasts and we have great joy in this revelation.

[mtcanz]

@jjstine41

The law is fulfilled but we are not under it. Its righteous requirement is fulfilled in those who walk and live according to the Spirit - fulfilled by Messiah's sacrificial death - His Kippur. We are not saved nor do we keep our salvation by keeping the law, for we now live by the law of the Spirit of the life in Messiah Yeshua (Rom 8:2).

The celebration and observance of the feasts can be marvelous! I hope you have a very blessed fall feast season.

Blessings!

[dobatiff]

as i have been watching this misleading clip i have noticed something that gave gave me complete comfort and clarity in saying that this is all trash, who takes the bible out of the ark, and has to turn it around on the alter, what idiot put it in the wrong way. if someone is genuinely passionate about this falseness being spewed they would take in to consideration that something as holly as the bible would be put the right way in to the ark! what a disgrace of the name of the lord! shame on ya

[mtcanz]

@dobatiff

Actually, he turned it twice, which means it was put in correctly. But, seriously... that's reason for shame? Believe me, looking over what my life was, you can find a lot more and better reasons for shame. I thank God, however, that through Messiah He's provided kippur for even a disgrace like myself...and I will praise Him so long as I have breath.

"...For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." 1 Sam 16:7

[justchemicalz]

Tremendous ;-)

Christ = the Ultimate Scapegoat!

Pretty sure the Yom Kippur prayer plays a couple times in the movie, "The Prince of Egypt."

If not, it's still a good excuse to check out the flick if you haven't already.

[mtcanz]

"If not, it's still a good excuse to check out the flick if you haven't already."

Thanks, JC - very cool. I will have to watch it again (it's been years) to listen for the prayer.

"Christ = the Ultimate Scapegoat!"

Amen to that...and praise God. Every page from Genesis to Revelation is about One Person, isn't it?

Shalom, brother.

Lee

[blackngoldgal65]

I love Israel. God bless Israel and her people. From a Christian.

[mtcanz]

Amen. And we must pray for the peace of Jerusalem -- God's peace.

[blackngoldgal65]

Yes, I do pray for the peace of Jerusalem, as God instructs from His Word: Psalm 122:6.

[delphiz99]

ah; Jews for Jesus. Love them - and how they are different from Christians? Nothing Jewish here...

[mtcanz]

On the contrary, the entire Christian faith is Jewish, although it's Jewish roots have been lost through the centuries. Everything about its origins is Jewish. "Christ" is simply the English translation of the Greek word "Christos" which is the same word as the Hebrew word, "Messiah". Jesus = Yeshua, which is the Hebrew name that mean's "Jehovah is salvation".

The Hebrew scriptures foretell of the coming Messiah -- how could the One who fulfills those prophecies be anything _but_ Jewish?

[delphiz99]

that's just a play of words. Christian faith started as Jewish, but rather quickly diverged from it in both theology and ritual, and became virulently anti-Semitic for most of it's history at least until Vatican II in the 60's, but in many aspects until today.

[mtcanz]

There's very little of your post I disagree with, delphiz. A couple centuries in, Rome's influence on the church corrupted what had been started by Yeshua and His disciples. This is why it's critical to look at the actual scriptures themselves - and not what men have done wrongly in His name. Yeshua has been remade into a European blue-eyed king when inn reality He was a middle-eastern Jewish rabbi.

In the most real sense, there is no play on words. Christ is Messiah -- same word.

[mtcanz]

(part II) May I ask you a couple questions, delphiz? Are you yourself Jewish? Do you believe that God promised to send His Messiah?

Again, thanks for posting! G_d bless you!

[delphiz99]

yes, I am Jewish. And yes, according to the Torah God promised to send the Messiah. BUT - it did not happen yet (Jews believe), and we are still waiting. YES, it did happen (Christians believe), and it was Jesus. The problem that you no doubt encountered Jews have with you is that you do believe that Jesus was the messiah. Absolutely fine. But it makes you a Christian - simply by definition of Christianity. It's a bit like "vegetarians for meat" (heard from some stand up comic...).

[mtcanz]

The Hebrew scriptures prophesy that Messiah would be of the tribe of Judah (Gen 49:10) and Son of David (2 Sam 7:12-16). You agree with that, don't you?

Yet, all the genealogical records were destroyed with Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Therefore, we cannot know the specific lineage of the Jews of today. This fact demands that Messiah came before the ancestral records were lost.

Before 70 A.D.

Also, Read Daniel 9

Or Gen - The story of Joseph -- a most powerful shadow of Messiah.

[delphiz99]

Lee, pleeease; that's a funny one: I presume God will know who is from David, and who is not, even though the records are burnt...

Sure, I know Daniel 9; it talks about high priest Onias (the anointed one). I presume you realize that in Judaism Messiah is not God incarnate, but a human being.

[mtcanz]

That there are dual fulfillments of prophetic statements in the OT is believed by even the rabbis (many Psalms, etc., point to David and the future Messiah). The gigantic number of prophecies that point to one Yeshua of Nazareth -- along with countless other prophetic types within the OT accounts - is clear for the one who is willing to see.

Of course the Messiah is a man. Yeshua was a man. But the man had to be a perfect man to be able to make an end of the transgression.

[mtcanz]

The Jews) were scattered in 70 A.D. Why do you think that was, delphiz? What happened to Kippur? If there was a non-blood means of atonement prior to the temple's destruction, then why slaughter millions of animals over centuries?

"for it is blood that makes atonement for the soul" Lev 1&;11

What happened that God scattered the Jews and put away the blood sacrifices?

Do you believe you will stand before God someday? Will atonement have been made for you for that day, or no? If so, how?

[delphiz99]

well, Lee; me personally - no, I actually do not believe that. I believe God doesn't much care to see me...

[mtcanz]

Your response is quite pregnant, though I'm not sure I know with what. Perhaps I've assumed something I should not have. Do you believe in God, delphiz? And do you believe He is the God of Israel as expressed in the ancient Hebrew Scriptures?

Blessed that you've stuck around for all this.

Shalom

[delphiz99]

I prefer not to go into details of my personal beliefs, especially in the open forum...

In general, Rambam said that it is naive to think that God can be in any way affected by us (including, specifically, prayers) - to me that implies that he does not much care, which actually makes sense...

[mtcanz]

Understood on keeping the personal private. Feel free to PM if you like, Delphiz.

Though I'd agree too many err by treating God as a wish-maker (the prosperity gospel), I'd suggest you've gone too far the other way -- thinking God is not interested. We have been made in His image, delphiz -- we love because He IS love. Even in our fallen state, there are still shadows of God manifest in His us - in, say, a father-son relationship (non-dysfunctional one, of course).

(cont...)

[delphiz99]

and we hate why?

[mtcanz]

"and we hate why?"

The fall.

As I said, there are still shadows of Him manifest in us, but we are corrupted by the fall. We need a way back through the gates -- the lamb of Passover hinted at the way- as does Isaiah 53, Zech 12, Ps 2, Ps 22, Gen 22, Micah 5:2, Is 9:6, the Feasts, the ark, the tabernacle... it goes on and on. It is all about Him.

[delphiz99]

the Fall; in Judaism that was covered by Jews accepting the Torah at Sinai; so this is passe for us. The Christians, of course have their own view...

[mtcanz]

Sorry, but you're wrong. In biblical Judaism atonement (Kippur) for the soul was only by way of blood (Lev 17:11). That changed only AFTER 70 A.D. because of the destruction of the temple and scattering of the Jews. From there, what were the Pharisees instituted what is now rabbinical Judaism.

Accepting the Torah NEVER was the means of atonement.  The law was the means of showing our NEED for atonement. Look what happened in Exodus 32 when Moses came down.

Read your bible.

[mtcanz]

(Part II)

I wonder why you'd trust Maimonides more than Moses? Or the Prophets? or GOD?

Can we only believe in a god we can fully understand? Wouldn't that just make us God's equal? and what of those Scriptures, written down over centuries by many different authors yet speaking in a clear, single voice? Saying things like....

"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11

(cont.)

[delphiz99]

Lee, we have been through that before. What REALLY did Moses MEAN? Or the Prophets? (Not even mentioning God). Different people see different things. Everybody relies on somebody else's interpretation. I am sure including you - there must have been a Teacher (pries, Rabbi, etc), who brought you in. And of course your main premise here is factually wrong: Scriptures (i.e. OT ) did NOT speak in a single voice... What do you chose? Over the millennia more people were killed in the name of Jesus

[delphiz99]

(cont) than for most other causes combined. And some very learned people endorsed that

[mtcanz]

I would only dispute the numbers (last century was a bloody one on a couple fronts)., but you're right! A lot of evil has been done in Jesus' name - wickedness!! Rome corrupted the teachings of Yeshua and the bible - keeping the scriptures from the common believer so as to maintain control over them.

Delphiz, I can't agree more that this was just an awful thing -- and I personally believe part of the Satan's plan to keep the Jews from their Messiah.

Learned people can be spiritually blind.

[mtcanz]

"And of course your main premise here is factually wrong: Scriptures (i.e. OT ) did NOT speak in a single voice... "

Oh, yes they do. That people can misinterpret something is not proof of your claim. In fact, a single person saying one thing can be misinterpreted in multiple ways. Did the one person not speak in a single voice? Of course he did. It's the hearers that have the problem.

It's the God's Spirit that does the teaching -- man is the vessel.

[mtcanz]

(part II) Just as a hologram has to be illuminated by the light that created it (another frequency light will present a "false image"), so, too, must the scriptures be illuminated by the Light (Spirit) that created them.

I promise you I do not need a man to show me that this is one message. I see it as I read!! But, if one comes to the Word with an agenda (light), sure, man is capable of doubting anything.

(cont...)

[delphiz99]

but man is fallible; what if you see it wrong? Or you are so proud that you believe that God personally empowered you to be always right?

[mtcanz]

Man is, but God is not. I trust God. Lord knows I've been guilty of pride and every other sin there is. It's the very reason I desperately need God's provision -- His atonement.

If I were proud regards to this I would believe I could be good enough -- keep the law enough to save myself.

[mtcanz]

(Part III)

No, God really does cares for you. I know because _I_ care, and in me there is no good thing (I know better than anyone what kind of person I was). That wasnt me but Gods Spirit in me that led me to pray for you last night and again this morning.

Just what if, Delphiz? What IF God really meant all along to keep the promises He made in the OT? And what IF He really has kept those promises, fulfilling them in the Seed of Abraham/Son of David, Yeshua?

(cont...)

[delphiz99]

Ah, Lee, please don't bring the Pascal's wager. "What if" works both ways (in fact many ways). What if you are wrong? A life wasted for a false cause. And what if the "real God" "saves" only those who do NOT believe in Jesus? Where will you be then?? Can you take a chance?

[mtcanz]

Delphiz, "what if" was for you -- to consider the possibility. I don't need to consider, for the Lord dwells in my heart. He has shown Himself powerfully in my life and in the lives of my family - undeniably. I fellowship with Him. I would have to deny something I know to think consider differently. I can't deny the reality of the Lord in my life anymore than I can my own life.

The one who desires to disbelieve will always be able to find reasons to. God does not force Himself on anyone.

[delphiz99]

well, good for you. Not everybody had or can rely on such an experience. And many that do are actually wrong..

[mtcanz]

(Part IV)

Have you ever read the NT, delphiz? The very first line;

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the SON of DAVID, the SON of ABRAHAM.

More....

Salvation is of the Jews

Might this Jewish rabbi, Yeshua, who has turned the world upside down that even in dating our checks we acknowledge Him, have something to do with the end of temple worship/sacrifice?

This One who has taken the Hebrew Scriptures (the knowledge of God) to every corner of the earth ... what if?

Shalom

[delphiz99]

sure, I read the Gospels. First when I was real little 12 years old or so, and then I was very impressed by their poetry. Later - see my previous - learning about all the things that were done in the name of Gospels/Jesus, my opinion changes. But again, it's all a question of interpretation

[delphiz99]

it's quaint to call Jesus a rabbi, which he was not. He was an independent (so to speak) preacher. A few people believed in him; the vast majority did not.

[mtcanz]

Now you're just debating to debate. Jesus was a rabbi -- a teacher. There were many who followed Him then -- just not many of the elite. And if we count His disciples going forward, what rabbi has had more students than this rabbi?

Why does that idea bother you so?

[delphiz99]

you are right - but it always was debating and argumentativeness. Clearly changing the opinion was not an option. And I do think it's time to wrap it up.

Best to you; keep being saved...

[mtcanz]

God bless you, delphiz. I think this is the right time to finish.

Shalom

[delphiz99]

thank you very much for your time; it was quite educational for me. Best wishes.

[cityhound]

on the other hand, these are not exactly jews....

closer to jews for Jesus (meaning, stop being jewish). and what's that logo on their backs, covering the Mogen David?

[mtcanz]

"not exactly Jews"

A Jew who believes God's promise found throughout the Hebrew Scriptures to send a Messiah was fulfilled in Yeshua stops being Jewish? How so? Isn't Yeshua Jewish? What of all His followers?

Tragically, political forces changed the Jewishness of this 1st century movement, but if Yeshua is truly the fulfillment of the ancient Hebrew prophecies, would not following Him be the single most Jewish thing a Jew could do?

Thanks for posting

Baruch HaShem

[delphiz99]

Exactly, well put: a Jew who believes that......Messiah was fulfilled by Jesus stops being Jewish, and starts being Christian; that being the only theological difference between Christians and Jews. (And a Jew who believes that Muhammad was God's Prophet stops being Jewish and starts to be Muslim). All the rest is as I said a wordplay, and a waste of time...

[mtcanz]

Interesting a Jew can be atheist and still Jewish (met one days ago) but cannot believe the rabbi Yeshua is Messiah and still remain Jewish. Given the history of what's been done to the Jews in His name, that reaction is understandable. But if Yeshua did fulfill the Messianic prophecies of the Hebrew Scriptures, then that must outweigh everything else..

Ask yourself if what you understand about Yeshua is based on what men have told you or on what you have sought out yourself? (cont....)

[delphiz99]

Religion cannot be judged on the basis of scriptures alone - they are always ambiguous, probably on purpose. Christianity (believe in Jesus - messiah) thus should be evaluated on the basis of practice of it's followers for 2,000 years, of which you take only the first three, thus coming up with paradoxes

[delphiz99]

part II; Subsequent Christianity was shaped primarily by Paul, and by his decision to proselytize to the Gentiles, with which he has had severe problems with the rest of Apostols headed by Peter, who resided in Jerusalem and indeed considered their creed as continuations of Judaism. The problem is that few Jews did, but the Gentiles embraced it. And for the next 2,000 years including now, believe in Jesus-Mesiah was and is the religion of Gentiles, and usually anti-Jewish

[mtcanz]

"...for salvation is of the Jews."

Do you know where this is from?

Again, I ask you; do you believe salvation was only to be FOR the Jews? Or do you believe the Hebrew Scriptures when God says that salvation would come to the nations THROUGH Israel? That through Abraham's seed the whole world would learn of God?

Do you believe that, delphiz?

[blackngoldgal65]

Amen & Amen,. Jesus said that Abraham rejoiced to see His day! A former pastor said once that those before Christ looked toward Calvary; those after Christ looked back to Calvary, and God counts it for righteousness. God bless Israel and the Jewish people. May He cover them with His protection. He never breaks His covenant. Salvation did come through the Jews, by my Savior Jesus Christ, who did not come to destroy the Law but to fulfill it.

[mtcanz]

(Part II) because if you believe that God meant it - that He would bless the world through Abraham with the knowledge of God - the Hebrew Scriptures, then consider that the Hebrew Scriptures have indeed gone to the entire world as part of the two covenant Christian bible. And there is only One Person responsible for this promise of God being fulilled, and His name is Yeshua.

Do you believe God would accomplish such a great promise given to Abraham by way of a false Messiah?

[delphiz99]

no, I don't; which is exactly the reason I don't believe Jesus was it...

[mtcanz]

"no, I don't; which is exactly the reason I don't believe Jesus was it..."

I'm sensing a shift in the dialoge - less discussion and more argumentativeness for its own sake. The fact is the Hebrew Scriptures have gone forth to the world. The world has learned of the God of Israel.

Who else could you possibly credit tthat to but the Central Figure of the New Covenant.

...whether you believe that or not doesn't change the statement's truthfulness.

[mtcanz]

"Religion cannot be judged on the basis of scriptures alone"

I'm not talking religion but God's truth, and God's Word alone tells us how we can/must approach Him.

Are you aware that Messianic Judaism (Christianity) predates the rabbinic Judaism practiced today, which came about after the destruction of Jerusalem as a response to the loss of the temple -- the place of sacrifice?

An event Daniel prophesied this would happen only after Messiah had been cut off - killed. (Dan (:25)

[mtcanz]

(Part II) As wonderful as tradition can be, it is not most important to God -- the heart is. In fact, the oldest tradition in the Jewish heritage is to break tradition. I'm referring to Abraham being called to leave country, family, religion to follow God alone (Gen 12:1). He was 75 years old and called by God to leave all that he knew.

God calls each of us to seek Him -- not to simply follow tradition. We must have an open heart to be led into His truth.

[delphiz99]

sure; and you opened you heart to another religion - that's your right. What is puzzling is that you refuse to admit the obvious; you should be proud to call yourself Christians because you believe in Jesus as messiah...

[mtcanz]

"What is puzzling is that you refuse to admit the obvious"

What thing am I refusing to admit - that I'm a Christian? I'm a Christian! Whatever you call me matters not. I belong to the Lord Yeshua. God saved me and I want to live my life saying "thank you" to Him. Call me Jew, call me Christian, call me Jesus freak - it's HIS name that matters, not mine.

(note: the term "Christian" was originally a slur that the Christians embraced. They were blessed to be mocked for His name's sake)

Shalom

[delphiz99]

Lee: I am glad that you are saved; one worry less...

[mtcanz]

delphiz, do you believe God promised that through Abraham the entire world (gentiles) would be blessed (Gen 22) with knowledge of Him (God)? Was Israel to be a "light to the gentiles" - bringing knowledge of God's salvation to the whole world? (Isaiah 49)

[mtcanz]

To clarify, when I said, "what of all His followers", I mean Yeshua's followers during His three year ministry in the first century. The apostles - the first church - were entirely Jewish. Salvation was never meant to come only to Israel, but THROUGH Israel to the entire world -- a "light to the gentiles".

If you don't mind, I have a question for you; do you believe God promised Abraham that through his seed the world would be blessed? -- specifically with the knowledge of God?

[delphiz99]

they are actually not Jews at all. Jewish-born Christians who for some reason do not call themselves that way...

[mtcanz]

"Mashiyach" means "anointed one".

When Jews wrote the Septuagint (LXX) -- a Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures written more than a century before Yeshua's life -- the word "Mashiyach" was translated into the Greek word "Christos".

So "Christos" also means, "anointed one"

In English, Christos becomes "Christ"

In English, Mashiyach becomes "Messiah"

"Christ" = "Messiah"

Same word. It's Jewish

Shalom

[Isak1978]

Sorry, guys! Putting on a tallis doesn't make you Jewish!

[mtcanz]

No one said it does, Isak. In fact, Shaul of Tarsus, who was a "Hebrew of Hebrews" -- a Pharisee who'd kept the law, wrote this....

"For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God." Rom 2:28-9

Being a Jew according to the flesh is not enough.

God bless--

[MrBiblia]

True...having a circumcised heart does.

[Castillo0001]

Barukh attah adonai eloheinu melekh ha-olam, asher natan lanu et derekh ha-yeshuah bamashiach Yeshua hu. Amein

[TheLodiProject]

I used to worship at Beth Israel when they were located nearby in Garfield (I live next door in Lodi) starting in 2005 til last year, and due to military obligations haven't quite made it to the Jersualem Center in Wayne. DEFINITELY gonna make it there soon! Rabbi Jonathan is an inspirational teacher, very insightful and knowedgeable of the Word like no one else I personally know.

[mtcanz]

I hope to see you there soon! And thank you for your service to our country.

God Bless you!

[YRT1234567]

THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting this videos my husband and our kids listen to Jonathan every Shabbath and enjoy it so much.

[mtcanz]

You're so welcome, YRT. Rabbi Jonathan is a gifted teacher. I hope to be posting more of them - as time permits and as the Lord leads.

God bless -