Brave girl. I'm curious, once gay marriage is allowed and everyone is "happy" for them, what's next? Do we accept marriage between a man/ woman and his or her dog, cat? Are we forced to accept cannibalism next? Are we forced to accept bestiality? I realize people want to be married to the person they love but once we are forced to accept one thing then we have to be forced to accept another. What's next? btw..I don't care if gays get married but I am wondering what we have to accept next.
Carrie should re-read the Bible. "Biblically correct marriage" includes polygamy. Kudos to the person who came up with question at 1:35, you made my day. Carrie's answer speaks volumes I think.
Look at all the crazy, foul mouthed homo marriage supporters on here and you call yourself righteous and us intolerant. Look at yourselves first. Support Marriage! And leave it the fuck alone.
@rainbowspite222 you are absolutely right... the majority elected Hugo Chavez 3 times and he now has absolute control over all powers to perpetuate himself indefinitely.... so the majority is generally wrong due to ignorance..
LOL its about being "biblically correct" well CORRECT ME CARRIE IF IM WRONG.
The bible says at Leviticus versus 16 and 17, the ones right before 18 where it mentions gay is a sin that Masturbation is a sin, but somehow your "morality" is much higher for being a self fornicator than a gay because???????? hypocrite hypocrite hypocrite!! ugh its sickening.
With a family tree full of fruits and nuts, I'd say Carrie lives in a glass trailer. Make that a glass mansion. Hate can make rich, but Karma's a bitch!
Do you ever wonder why the so called expert on "marriage" the one and only Maggie Gallagher is never seen with her husband? If marriage is so great...why is he absent? The reason is Maggie Gallagher is married to a black man. She is in an interracial marriage. She is ASHAMED of her interracial marriage and is afraid that the conservative bigots that support her ideology will STOP DONATING to her scam organization NOM. Need Oppressive Money! 40% goes directly into her pocket.
I find what thursday said ridiculous. I've been to many churches and I've never seen any of this, and I've known many Christians and Christian organizations. That isn't to say everyone is perfect, and there are bad apples in every group. But I think thursday's goal is the same as always, to demean Christians. She has no interest in fairness and truth. She seems to think that Christianity should reflect her views, and if not it's somehow "psycho" or extreme.
In many Christian congregations bigotry is not only condoned, but a requirement. I know of one church where anyone who dared vote for a Democrat would no longer be welcome. 28 people in the congregation defied the pastor's "instruction" and were harassed to the point where many just left the church in disgust.
Is any of this appealing to JESUS? What have these psycho extremists done to (or WITH) Christianity?
According to McWhirter and Mattison, most gay men understood sexual relations outside the relationship to be the norm & viewed adopting monogamous standards as an act of oppression. The Dutch study of partnered gays, which was in the journal AIDS, found that men with a steady partner had an average of 8 sexual partners per year. Bell & Weinberg, in their study of male and female gays, found that 43% of white male gays had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28% having 1000 or more.sex partners.
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Marriage between a man and woman is not considered hateful by anyone. Banning gays from marrying is what is hateful.
Carrie's parents may have married each other according to their "convictions", but both have had homosexual relationships, which makes them hypocrites.
For gays to be in heterosexual marriages is a perversion, creating misery for everyone involved. For gays to be in a monogamous same sex marriage is much healthier, and it makes much more sense then divisive religious dogma.
Gays always play the HATE card whenever someone doesn't agree with them... This is NOT about hate, it's about God's laws which will not change... He will not change his laws to appease a few people with chips on their shoulders, so that they can feel justified in their immoral lifestyles... Good for Carrie!!! She has my support and is the rightful Miss USA!!!!
Miss Prejean has a doubtable background with nude pictures spread all across of her. I don't see her living up to any Christian values. Besides she is a liar when she claims she lost because of her answer to that question. The current Miss USA, Kriten Dalton, scored higher in all parts. The simple truth is the reason Miss Prejean lost is she is not as beautiful as Kristen Dalton.
Did she answer the question logically- what of the heterosexual people who can't have children? Are they to not marry because they can't make these children? She doesn't want to raise children in a World where marriage between men and women only is looked upon as discrimminatory. Well realistically she IS already and you can only stick your sand in the head so long before you suffocate! Carrie Prejean speaks on behalf of the brainwashed church goers, the cult.
I think gay and lesbian parents would want their children to grow up and be happy and caring for their fellow humans hnh117- people aren't defined by their sexuality. I, a straight parent would love my kids to be happy and empathetic when they grow up.
you know I don't know whats wrong with you guys. I don't see any hate in her towards this controversy or gays. If you listen to her answer at the pageant she never said that she disapproves of it. She felt that people have the right to chose but as for her marriage is for a man & a woman. Yes that is what the bible teaches us & that is how she learned is what she is saying. she is not speaking for all christians, she is speaking for herself. you guys are throwing everything out of proportion
Carrie made herself spokes person for the ignorant fringes of our society.
Nobody consideres "opposite marriage" hateful. It's those who consider gay marriage equality wrong are bigots. Bigorty is wrong, and when it is the excuse for unfair laws, it's evil.
The problem wit gay marriage is there is no problem. The problem with Carrie Prejean and her faith-based hate machine is that they are forcing unfairness onto the American People. THAT is the only problem. NOBODY is hurting Carrie!
She avoided many question regarding homosexuality ,not only same-sex marriage ...Like the question about dating ex-gay man ,she stated that was an inaproppriate question .The truth is out there, she is such a homophobic beauty queen...She believes everything in Bible to spread her religious belief , but also spread homophobia .
And she was not very nice when being asked many tough question about her personality ,or her belief .I'm glad she didn't win
All in all, there are no constitutionally consistent justifications as to why genitalia must be checked before a couple can get legal marriage.
Especially when sterile couples can get legal marriage without procreative ability.
Do parents who kill their children lose their ability to marry or stay married? No. Even though they are certainly 'unfit' to be traditional parents...
Interestingly enough, Miss Universe supports marriage equality. There are many people who oppose her opinion, but she knows she is just a beauty queen with an opinion...and citizens are free to either 'like' or 'dislike' her opinion. Maybe Prejean should take notes.
Can heterosexual monks 'choose' to abandon their heterosexual attraction in order to choose to become asexual?
Can Republican men 'choose' to stop finding other women attractive so they can stop cheating on their wives?
If heterosexuals cannot actively 'choose' to shed their attraction to members of a given gender, then why do we expect gays to have some special ability that heterosexuals lack?
So basically, a grown man's rights are violated when another man has consentual sex with him...because there is no difference in the age of consent of an adult and a child.
Also, an animal is able to express explicit consent to a past or future sexual act, in a court of law.
Comparing homosexual relationships between adults (legal) to pedophilia and such (illegal) is rather silly.
Is it also a choice for white men to be attracted to black women? That changed the country...
well, there was case in Germany, when adult person anounced i internet that he wants to eat someone. Another adult person replied to this and consent to be eaten. They met, made sex (both are males) and teh cannibal ate his ..."victim", but the man wanted to be eaten. So no problem. Both did what they wanted.
And children in fact do a lot of things they can't consent because of the society adn family. Also in ancient Greece it was normal under aged kids to have sex with their teachers.
hehe, in deffinition gay marriage is same as sterile straight people? so gay marriage in it's concept is damaged marriage?
The concept of marriage is not just two persons enjoy to share the kitchen. It is based on deep psychological archetypes in human nature. That is why it can't be homosexual. Homosexual co-existance is smth different. If they want marriage, they can but in it's deffinition. We can't call marriage everything. And this is not government decision,it is human nature decision.
Yes, If you argue that legal marriage must be reserved only for people who can procreate, then that bans a lot of heterosexual couples from legal marriage as well. You must be consistent with your argument.
Legal marriage, is governmental recognition of a marriage. Therefore, it IS a government decision, not mob rule.
In the context of law, what can a sterile heterosexual couple do, that a homosexual couple cannot do? Please be specific.
marriage as a concept is LONG before there is any government and government is created for protection and to take care of the society which is based on families and kins. So the government can't determine things that are already determined by human nature/consciousness and sub consciousness..these things are determined and any break on them is causing a lot of psychological traumas and disorders. And this is proven so many times. It is between man and woman.
Slavery existed before America too. It is human nature to want others to do work for you, and human nature to see different people as 'inferior'.
So according to the 'you can't ever change old traditions' concept, we should bring back slavery, and resume the notion of a woman being property in marriage, unable to file rape charges against her husband.
Name one 'trauma' or 'disorder' caused by gay marriage that is harmful enough to support eternal bans.
hahah, a LOT of things existed before America, in fact America existed before "americans" went there.
You obviously don't understand a lot of things. I am talking about the human nature as archetypes. These archetypes are in our consciousness. Slavery is function of policy and gevernment. It have nothing to do with sexuality and our consciousness.
And yes it will cause damages, even in heterosexual family the disbalance of the parents causes such things. And the woman as property is in islam.
The traditions are based on this archetypes. Not all, but mostly. And I am not talking about traditions. Because every tradition is based on things in human psyche. So I am not talking about traditions. About human nature. It is different. This have nothing to do with dogma. It is the things, the laws in our psyche, which disbalance causes all the psychic disorders. And it is not about believing. The fact are that heterosexuality IS the common part.:-).
It does not matter what you call it. You are making an appeal about 'tradition'.
Until there are laws that say that 'archetypes' or 'traditions' or 'non-scientific assumptions about human nature' are henceforth unquestionable in our legal system, then you do not have much to keep gay marriage from happening.
Homoracial couples were also the 'common' part of society. For thousands of years, people only married within their race. Archetype. Tradition. Human nature. All ignored.
well, these are scientific, you can find many psycology scientific researches on archetypes, well if you are not familiar with this terms, it's your problem. HAha homoracial, we talk about different sexual behaviour. homosexual were never a part. And you must first read what is archetype.
so if the government allows killing, it's ok to kill?
For you the legal system is like the dogma for the religious people, if it allows something, it is ok. They say pay your indulgences and you are not guilty. :-).
First of all, the legal system was created to protect the already existing human relations.
well government allows gay "marriage" also by changing the constitution, because there it is defined (like in the most countries and states) as between man and woman. About the harm, not everything is leading to death. Some things are even worst. Homosexuals are annoying minority which is making pressure and manipulating the society to accept something that is not acceptable. Yes lows are not static, if there is need you can make always good war in the name of society...
The constitutional ammendment to place a 'man/woman' clause for legal marriage, failed in both houses, under a conservative congress, and conservative president, when only one state had gay marriage. What constitution then, are you reading?
Worst is not the right word to use. You mean 'worse' than death.
Good luck demonstrating how people should rather 'die' than let their gay neighbors get legal marriage rather than just ceremonial marriage...which is legal for them in all states.
next step pedophiles. Maybe the next time the pedophile party will run their law for dropping down the age for sex to 12 years old kids. :-). Because freedom is really misunderstood.
well not desperation, here the things are quite conservative:-).
Gay co-existence is not and can't be called marriage and I don't think there is a way to equate those two things:-). Also as I said, this is bad for the children, for their normal sexual and psychological growth. Because the wishes of few perverts that want to distort the family values.
I thought only 14 year old girls used smileys online.
Interracial co-existence was not considered to be a viable form of 'marriage'. It was bad for children, who might grow up thinking it was OK to mix the races. That was not normal for sexual or psychological growth.
As far as gays, we all know that heterosexual children become gay when exposed to gay marriage. Just like gay children all became heterosexuals when straight marriage was accepted.
Yes, even in heterosexual family when the balance between the parents is los can cause disorders to the children (it can be in many aspects - sexuality is the most delicate thing) , so what is left to artificial "family" of homosexual "parents".There is so many scientifical searches of what is the good family environment for the children. In fact if you are against these traditions, why homosexual want to marry at all..this is just old meaningless tradition. :-).
Please provide documentation to prove that parents of the same gender are inherently inferior to any parents of opposite gender.
The studies about opposite gender parenting were done in comparison to 'single' parenting, not gay parenting.
Parenting is about what is between the ears, not the legs.
Compare the number of cases where heterosexual parents kill their children, to the number of gay parents that kill theirs. That would mean that the latter provides the least lethal setting.
interesting fact is that pedophiles are invariably males and almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men and
significant numbers of victims are males: up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls). (you can search for Dr Timothy J. Dailey)
...most of the crimes against children are made by men attracted by their own sex.. coincidence?
And you didn't explained me, why homosexual want to be part of such outdated tradition...?
Less than one third are against boys...meaning over 66% of the pedophiles are heterosexual.
Reference to a 'significant number' didnt help you either. 5% can be 'significant', but that still leaves the vast majority of pedophiles as heterosexuals.
'Almost one third' hardly fits the term 'most'.
The 2/3rds you left out, were the majority, and they were heterosexual pedophiles.
When you start to try to pull out arguments to ban homosexuality, then you have truly run out of things to say about 'legal marriage.'
Good luck with banning gay marriage under the banner of 'if gay marriage is legal, then gays might catch up to heterosexuals in the whole pedophilia scene.'
So basically, you believe that every crime against a boy is done by a male......and never a female such as the female school teachers that molest boys...
Let's not forget that you clearly showed us that the remaining over 2/3rds of cases were heterosexual pedophilia cases.
Congratulations, you just made a case to ban heterosexuals from being parents...since a high instance of heterosexual pedophilia should preclude 'all' heterosexuals from raising children.
haha school teacher molested 15 years old boys...or the boys the teachers. Yes there are such percents. But this is normal. It is normal attraction man - woman. Of course this can lead to the opposite thing. Boys with dominant mothers can become homosexuals. Also children victims of sexual crimes. And this is problem with the morality in the society. And you can preclude heterosexual, because this is the only way for children. The family is the natural enviroment for them. Male/Female.
So basically, anything that is seen as alien for a family structure must be eliminated through federal bans.
Therefore, step-parents must be outlawed. They are not the natural or traditional parents. Hence, it should be illegal to marry anyone but the biological parents of your child.
I like how you said that it is normal for grown women to molest minors.
If homosexuality was 'caused' by parenting, then why don't all of the boy's siblings also 'become gay'? How is that boy unique
i prefer that marrigae be between a man and a woman.... BUT I don't think homosexuals make BAD parents.. please don't let this person speak for all of us Christians..
why do you care what carrie thinks anyway? I mean she's is NOT stopping you from living your life you know. if she wants to be narrowminded that's her problem.
What in blazes are you talking about? This issue is extremely old. I can care less what an ex-runner up to a beauty pageant says or thinks. Furthermore, she is definitely not stopping me from marrying my girlfriend and having children.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that children raised by same-sex couples are any more likely to be gay themselves. I imagine gay parents would want for their children what ANY loving parent would want for their child - For them to happy and healthy.
and for parenting is important everything. Most of the things that the child accept from the parents is in subconscious level. Even through the pregnancy period. Of course this with homosexual parents is not possible, because they can't have the both parents in same time. So the child will be separate from one of it's real parents. Which is not moral and normal for the growth of the kid.
well, there is no the concept of marriage with gays. And this concept is not made by any government, it is coded in our subconciousness also in the collective memory of our civilization and and the ones before this one. This is called archetype. It is more than just morality or something said by religions or governments. And as it is know the distortion of the archetypes causes a lot of psychological problems..
Don't you know what you're doing here? You're trying to use rhetoric to manipulate your point of view in a direction that favors your opinion, but you're make one very big mistake: You are forgetting to site realistic facts about what is associated with this Sin. For one thing, the rectum was not meant for reproduction or pleasure. Nature did not intend it for that purpose. It's real purpose is to deprecate feces.
because you try to force other people in society to either go along with what you're doing, or you PICK certain ones and label them as being like that even if they say they are not. You preach it in the school, yet you don't want God's word brought up!
People like you FIRE people from a job just because they don't agree with your views, AND, a supportive example of this can easily be seen in the way Carrie Prejean was treated by Perez Hilton. He slandered her name and insulted her with profanity
tell me about it serg. It's common to get your so-called freedom violated in the US. even on the job with the AT WILL EMPLOYMENT. You can be fired for NO REASON! That's America the so-called land of the free - YEAH RIGHT!
This is a silly topic, it should be choice. You may not like it but why can't gays get married? It's not affecting your life in any way what-so-ever. You can hate all you want but it doesn't affect your life so why rule it out of someone who has made the choice to be gay?
Honestly, if marriage was all it was cracked up to be then there would be a lower divorce rate, it's not some pure entity that hasn't been tarnished so welcome change and let people make their own choices as to a union or not
hey art, why can't people screw animals on the street, or eat plates of crap in the classroom? Some things are gross and shouldn't be allowed. I support Carrie's opinion and not that she said she was going to form an army or anything. She just stated what "SHE" thinks about it and was punished for giving an honest opinion!
There's a difference between what you stated guitartimman and what I stated. I don't see homosexuals fornicating in the streets..and hopefully not, I'm sure it happens both sides, eating plates of crap in the class room is just unrealistic and foolish and ulltimately comes down to choice too, if someone wanted to do that I'm sure they would. Unless you can come up with a more reational sounding debate then I see no reason why being gay should be denied the same rights as straight.
As for her opinion to it, that's totally fine, I never had a problem with it. This is not about her opinion as it is about the refusal for people to adapt and change with the evolving social aspects of human life within society
yes if it is choice, gays have chosen what to do and what not to. If they choose not to be like heterosexuals, why we must equate their kind of relationship with the heterosexual one? They chose to have different concept of relationship that is not marriage, and now they enforce people to say their relationship is marriage.... If I choose not to learn for architect and after that I wan't from people to accept me like one and to say my rights are broken.
At the pageant she he could have given her true opinion of marriage being only male-female. But she and others like her don't respect the fact that they don't know how to ethically decide the rights of others. She didn't also respect the right of same-sex couples to decide for themselves. I'm sure she took that right to "choose" away with her prop 8 vote. I think, in a way, the pageant was a trial by proxy of prop 8. Events since then have given a fine lesson about bigotry and poetic justice.
I can see what she means, but heteros aren't exactly doing their best at guarding the "sanctity of marriage". It's ridiculous that it should even be a vote; it's a RIGHT. There's not need for discussion.
Wow... what a bigot thing to say right there... Your one that shows why many countries think American is a hypocritical nation. Al even Americans with comprehension and potent statures think so... Also, its quite ironic that other countries are populating with followers of Christ. You must have a lot of free time to even come up with things to say that leads to no real potent grounds.
You may be right, however, whats so hard to take an initiative to believe. Isn't the future improved by the past? Can the past not be truth carried on foward? How do you provie its ALL fiction? Mind is open but so is heart... they work together; however. The longest distant in our humany body is the heart to mind for they may nto agree which is why many times... thoughts and heart can be decieving to itself.
THESTAR- what is your point? Yeah I have trouble with any religion shoving beliefs like Christians do, but since we are talking about gayrights here, and organizations like NOM are funded by Christians, and the most powerful leaders here are the same.
If it makes you feel better, I slammed some other video where some Rabbi's told us it was "forbidden" to vote for an politician who advocates gay rights. Trust me, I'm equal opportunity on all superstitious and stupid people like this.
STAR- so you just compared American Christians to Saudi Arabia Muslims? The same country that oppressed women's rights as well?
As you know, Christianity is not the "only" religion here. Also, which "Christian"? My Petecostal friends tell me the Catholics are "lost" and the Catholics say the Baptists are "wrong".
But no the Christians here just want to shove one religion down our throat.
personally I don't care if people want to be gay go for it that just leave more women for the straight guys :P but I am married with 2 kids in a straight relationship so gays have no affect on me at all.
GETA- good points and I wonder if that's why someConservatives hate lesbians ;) they take women away!
Funny thing, you notice how enraged many conservatives get over two men, but seem perfectly fine with two women due to the 3sum fantasy. Bi women, however, hate homophobes and bigots.
As far as I am concerned who am I to tell someone else who they should love. If you want to be gay then be gay I could care less. I think that there will always be enough straight people out there to keep the human race growing natually. but then they can always get invitro and have babies with a lesbian couple.But the only part I worry about if gay couples have children those kids could be constantly harassed because of their parents being gay. That is all that I worry about.
GETA- That's not really much of a concern. When I was younger, I heard the same concern about Inter racial marriage- "kids could be harassed..." Thankfully, no one really seems to care about that today.
Kids will probably always make fun of anyone who is different about anything (looks, social status, weight, disability, etc.) If you meanay parents adopting...is that really so bad considering all the lonely kids out there waiting to be adopted?
Well you have a good point but at the same time though why give them more ammo? Ultimately it's not up to me if they want to adopt go for it but they should just prepare the child for what's coming. I think the biggest disservice that parents do now adays is the just don't talk to them. they think they are a kid they don't need to know and if you ask me they need to know it BECAUSE they are a kid. I don't hold back much from my kids other than stuff about sex bc they are 4 and 2 lol. no need.
she is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen...she got breast implants..(an abomination in the bible), just to win a contest so that she could protest gays for what she believes is an abomination. Hypocritcal at best. That is like ME robbing a bank to get money to afford a lawyer so I could protest bank robbers...Fucking cunt is abusing her title, for her personal agenda which was not the reason she was voted Miss Californicunt.but again..bible thumpers have tunnel vision. just like republicans
ok show me where the bible talks about fake titties lol. What does it say? "Thou shalt not get bigger titties?" Or "Thou shalt not go with the C Cups?" LMFAO
You know the whole gay marriage thing is such HUGE deal and everyone has their opinion. People say that it is a religious issue which the bible doesn't say anything directly against homosexuality. It's a civil rights issue every american citizen has the right to the same rights as everyone else. When you look at it from that stance they should be able to get married. Honestly I could care less either way it wont bother me if gays can get married.
Actually that isn't an accurate quote, it says " a man shall not lie with a man as he would lie with a woman" or something of that sort. But remember that is from the King James version of the bible that was written by MAN. Not GOD not Jesus but by man nearly 1,500 years AFTER Jesus was supposedly on earth. Sorry but I think that it is certainly a HUGE possibility that these 14 different men just put in the bible what they wanted people to do. Bible is flawed and narrow minded.
Also davidn87, Do you REALLY think that marriage is really as sacred and blissful as people make it out to be. Nearly 50% of adults have been married more than once. I live in oklahoma which is in the top 3 states for divorce. People talk of marriage as a sacred unity and blah blah blah but come on! Look at hollywood! They change spouses as often as I change socks! Marriage is no longer a big deal to people, they get married for money and greed and all kinds of crap. Bible is irrelevent anymore.
and that quote is always taken out of context, because that was back in the days when , when a man won a battle against another man, he would have sex with him to assert his dominance over the other guy. not out of love..or emotion...but in typical uneducated fashion,, the bible thumpers only see the parts of the words in the bible that make their own lives convenient!!
The true abomination of homosexuality is the way that gay families are treated in the name of Christ. Gay people are denied employment, housing, and equal access to services that heterosexuals take for granted.
How Christian is it to deny the children of same sex couples access to the health care benefits of the non-biological parent in a same sex relationship?
who care about this bimbo(miss california opinion)
In ancient Chinese society... the origin of Chinese marriage is a story about Nüwa and Fu Xi who invented proper marriage procedures after becoming married.
...couples were married in what is called an extra-clan marriage better known as antithetic marriage.
This occurred around 5000 BC.
FYI - Christian "God" didn't come around until about five thousands years later.
.... I totally agree with MISS CALIFORNIA answer. I rather be Biblically correct with god than politically correct with the president which leads to an eternity in hell. This woman answer takes courage wrapped up in bravery, and she make me proud to be a woman of christianity. There are still some left in sodom and gomorah
A un-thought statment is what I say you have there but its fine...
Let me ask, if laws aren't based off a book, then where? If ideas, where are ideas from and why stupid? What is stupid to you and what is NOT? If its just your own view, the I have to say... start learning how to be more open with your heart.
I agree with the judge's decision. The press has viciously attacked Miss California Carrie Prejean willfully, maliciously, and without reason. I am proud of Miss California Carrie Prejean for being such a strong woman. I am glad that the Donald and Miss California Carrie Prejean reminded us that our Constitution is important. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion must be defended from attack. For those who would attack Miss California attack the US Constitution.
Seriously? All I'm going to say is where do the majority of gay kids come from? Straight families, yes? If marriage is so sacred why are there so many divorces. Really bitch GO KICK ROCKS!!!
LOL. Look at zippy24u's photo. Stereotypical white trailer park trash!
Shirtless, mullet. I wouldn't be surprised if he listened to coutnry and western music, wears tank tops, smokes cigarettes, hits his wife/girl friend, lets his kids (if he has any) run around in their underwear and leaves them without a shower/bath for weeks at a time. His kids would have poor nutrition too. Drives a gas guzzling truck, etc...
Prejean says her position is about being "Biblically correct." That's ironic since prancing around half-naked on stage, lying, and taking nude "modeling" pictures doesn't seem the least bit Biblical. I would expect more consistency when someone tries to grab the Biblical high-road.
NH is likely to support marriage equality as the state's (along with VT & ME) legislature passed marriage equality. The last step is for the governor of New Hampshire to sign. NY state is up next and it is likely to pass there too. Also sexual orientation is a part of the new hate crimes bill that will likely pass through congress very soon and President Obama is anxiously waiting to sign. Time is on our side as the anti-gay professional bigots are fast becoming irrelevant.
"You are dumber, uglier, and stinkier than bullshit."
Wow you are a poor arguer. Loser. The ads were truthful.
And I'm glad FL doesn't even allow civil unions!!!!
And Michele Bachmann said that faggots suffer from sexual dysfunction and sexual identity disorders. We need more patriots like her in our government!!!!
Justgetout Florida is changing slowly as well. It's just a matter of time. Michelle Bachman is on her way out. She's a total wingnut psycho who is probably stuck on drugs like Boss Rushy Limbaugh.
Anyone who calls same sex marriage "faggot marriage", etc. really needs to get a fucking life. You guys are the same ilk that would have hung black people and dragged them behind your red necked pickups just because they spoke out about being allowed interracial marriage (another form of marriage equality). What happened to you guys? Did your priest cornhole you or something?
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Brave girl. I'm curious, once gay marriage is allowed and everyone is "happy" for them, what's next? Do we accept marriage between a man/ woman and his or her dog, cat? Are we forced to accept cannibalism next? Are we forced to accept bestiality? I realize people want to be married to the person they love but once we are forced to accept one thing then we have to be forced to accept another. What's next? btw..I don't care if gays get married but I am wondering what we have to accept next.
clayLavl 1 week ago
Carrie should re-read the Bible. "Biblically correct marriage" includes polygamy. Kudos to the person who came up with question at 1:35, you made my day. Carrie's answer speaks volumes I think.
Upsiditus7 3 months ago
@Guitarrosaurusrex To classify sexual deviancy for other people who do not share your beliefs is an exercise in futility.
clubindiana4 7 months ago
Look at all the crazy, foul mouthed homo marriage supporters on here and you call yourself righteous and us intolerant. Look at yourselves first. Support Marriage! And leave it the fuck alone.
luckyStrike89ru 8 months ago
@luckyStrike89ru I agree! Its way better to be a polite bigot than a foul mouthed supporter of equality!
clubindiana4 7 months ago
Whyy is everyone makingg a big deaL about her thoughts on this issue! Its her fucking opinion deal with itt!!
xHaus0fGagax 8 months ago
I'm fine with religion as long as religion and state are separate.
ToeTwinkleToes 10 months ago
@rainbowspite222 you are absolutely right... the majority elected Hugo Chavez 3 times and he now has absolute control over all powers to perpetuate himself indefinitely.... so the majority is generally wrong due to ignorance..
eldruidacosmico 1 year ago
She's a stupid bitch.
Poochalot 1 year ago 3
LOL its about being "biblically correct" well CORRECT ME CARRIE IF IM WRONG.
The bible says at Leviticus versus 16 and 17, the ones right before 18 where it mentions gay is a sin that Masturbation is a sin, but somehow your "morality" is much higher for being a self fornicator than a gay because???????? hypocrite hypocrite hypocrite!! ugh its sickening.
wetdream09 1 year ago
Yeah, she makes Christianity look horrible.
melikadothechacha 1 year ago 2
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With a family tree full of fruits and nuts, I'd say Carrie lives in a glass trailer. Make that a glass mansion. Hate can make rich, but Karma's a bitch!
mdmusil 1 year ago
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Do you ever wonder why the so called expert on "marriage" the one and only Maggie Gallagher is never seen with her husband? If marriage is so great...why is he absent? The reason is Maggie Gallagher is married to a black man. She is in an interracial marriage. She is ASHAMED of her interracial marriage and is afraid that the conservative bigots that support her ideology will STOP DONATING to her scam organization NOM. Need Oppressive Money! 40% goes directly into her pocket.
neenerpuss 1 year ago
She is beautiful.
IauthenticI 2 years ago
Funny how Carrie has made no more speeches since her perverted and unbecoming past came to bite her in the ass. Hypocrite!
thursdaysrecords 2 years ago
I find what thursday said ridiculous. I've been to many churches and I've never seen any of this, and I've known many Christians and Christian organizations. That isn't to say everyone is perfect, and there are bad apples in every group. But I think thursday's goal is the same as always, to demean Christians. She has no interest in fairness and truth. She seems to think that Christianity should reflect her views, and if not it's somehow "psycho" or extreme.
Christiangal39 2 years ago
In many Christian congregations bigotry is not only condoned, but a requirement. I know of one church where anyone who dared vote for a Democrat would no longer be welcome. 28 people in the congregation defied the pastor's "instruction" and were harassed to the point where many just left the church in disgust.
Is any of this appealing to JESUS? What have these psycho extremists done to (or WITH) Christianity?
thursdaysrecords 2 years ago
Christianity has indeed been hijacked by utbag necon right wing gasbags.
odessyrcr589 2 years ago
Well at least they slow down to only 8 partners per year when they are in a committed relationship. OK then
Ivor7777777 2 years ago
According to McWhirter and Mattison, most gay men understood sexual relations outside the relationship to be the norm & viewed adopting monogamous standards as an act of oppression. The Dutch study of partnered gays, which was in the journal AIDS, found that men with a steady partner had an average of 8 sexual partners per year. Bell & Weinberg, in their study of male and female gays, found that 43% of white male gays had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28% having 1000 or more.sex partners.
Ivor7777777 2 years ago
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Marriage between a man and woman is not considered hateful by anyone. Banning gays from marrying is what is hateful.
Carrie's parents may have married each other according to their "convictions", but both have had homosexual relationships, which makes them hypocrites.
For gays to be in heterosexual marriages is a perversion, creating misery for everyone involved. For gays to be in a monogamous same sex marriage is much healthier, and it makes much more sense then divisive religious dogma.
thursdaysrecords 2 years ago
wahooo!!
you tell them sister! =D
RidingWithRuffian 2 years ago
this great nation is about freedom for all and equality
those who are anti gay marriage arent about freedom or equality
idaman12345 2 years ago
I'm sure the viewers of her sex tapes and pornographic images think she is a lovely woman too :]
sammehwhoreface 2 years ago
Gays always play the HATE card whenever someone doesn't agree with them... This is NOT about hate, it's about God's laws which will not change... He will not change his laws to appease a few people with chips on their shoulders, so that they can feel justified in their immoral lifestyles... Good for Carrie!!! She has my support and is the rightful Miss USA!!!!
imnvrgvnup 2 years ago
fictional creatures should not be controling peoples rights
idaman12345 2 years ago
ok, kid.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
you are really stupid.
Tell me what common have ancient greek and homosexuality?
I don't care about how bad is my english. See yours "dond't"...
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Use your brain. if you can. That in ancient greece the homosexuality was with young boys or what you can't understand?
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
yes, and I consider myself as Napoleon, but the doctors says I am not.
IN fact in ancient greece homosexuality were in this way, with boys...
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Really, does anyone care what this fake boob wearing, pampered, future ex-trophy wife thinks?
artdude1021 2 years ago
When the agenda of an anti-gay bigot is pointed out, then instead of accepting the facts, you whip out an immediate BUT...
You don't hate gays...BUT
You aren't a bigot....BUT
You do support equality...BUT
Why don't you just stop the excuses and admit it: The more pain and suffering that can legally be heeped on gays, the better.
You have a right to be a hateful asshole, BUT you need to accept the label to go with your hate!
BUT...Equality is coming ANYWAY!
thursdaysrecords 2 years ago 2
Anyone claiming to be FOR MARRIAGE wouldn't fight so desperately AGAINST gays having the same rights and protections marriage offers.
Hate disguised as protecting people is still hate.
polkadotbox2 2 years ago 2
What a bitch!
Styopa61 2 years ago 2
Miss Prejean has a doubtable background with nude pictures spread all across of her. I don't see her living up to any Christian values. Besides she is a liar when she claims she lost because of her answer to that question. The current Miss USA, Kriten Dalton, scored higher in all parts. The simple truth is the reason Miss Prejean lost is she is not as beautiful as Kristen Dalton.
MarkieWatch100 2 years ago 2
Walk a mile in the shoes of someone you're mistreating, and see what injustice can do to the human spirit!
Those who advocate second class citizenship for anyone should be ashamed. To blame God for their bigotry is blasphemy.
polkadotbox2 2 years ago
Both of Carrie's parents are homosexual, and look how their precious little Carrie turned out!
fannynoise 2 years ago
Did she answer the question logically- what of the heterosexual people who can't have children? Are they to not marry because they can't make these children? She doesn't want to raise children in a World where marriage between men and women only is looked upon as discrimminatory. Well realistically she IS already and you can only stick your sand in the head so long before you suffocate! Carrie Prejean speaks on behalf of the brainwashed church goers, the cult.
Odette321 2 years ago
excuse me but don't categorize en entire group of people based on what ONE person said.. That makes you PREJUDICED AND NARROWMINDED..
ihateneveen 2 years ago
I think gay and lesbian parents would want their children to grow up and be happy and caring for their fellow humans hnh117- people aren't defined by their sexuality. I, a straight parent would love my kids to be happy and empathetic when they grow up.
Odette321 2 years ago
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Odette321 2 years ago
you know I don't know whats wrong with you guys. I don't see any hate in her towards this controversy or gays. If you listen to her answer at the pageant she never said that she disapproves of it. She felt that people have the right to chose but as for her marriage is for a man & a woman. Yes that is what the bible teaches us & that is how she learned is what she is saying. she is not speaking for all christians, she is speaking for herself. you guys are throwing everything out of proportion
MsMoviebuff24 2 years ago
Carrie made herself spokes person for the ignorant fringes of our society.
Nobody consideres "opposite marriage" hateful. It's those who consider gay marriage equality wrong are bigots. Bigorty is wrong, and when it is the excuse for unfair laws, it's evil.
The problem wit gay marriage is there is no problem. The problem with Carrie Prejean and her faith-based hate machine is that they are forcing unfairness onto the American People. THAT is the only problem. NOBODY is hurting Carrie!
polkadotbox2 2 years ago
she will regret her public displays of bigotry one day, i just know it
niggitynignig 2 years ago
It kinda sounds like the pageant did pay for any breast implants........?
iMissNintendo 2 years ago
She avoided many question regarding homosexuality ,not only same-sex marriage ...Like the question about dating ex-gay man ,she stated that was an inaproppriate question .The truth is out there, she is such a homophobic beauty queen...She believes everything in Bible to spread her religious belief , but also spread homophobia .
And she was not very nice when being asked many tough question about her personality ,or her belief .I'm glad she didn't win
Kristen Dalton is more elegant
Theclowcard 2 years ago
All in all, there are no constitutionally consistent justifications as to why genitalia must be checked before a couple can get legal marriage.
Especially when sterile couples can get legal marriage without procreative ability.
Do parents who kill their children lose their ability to marry or stay married? No. Even though they are certainly 'unfit' to be traditional parents...
Darkbison7 2 years ago
I'm definitely not familiar with the laws that archetypes are immune to constitutional scrutiny in the legal system.
I have not forgotten. I really want you to show me that law. I think you made it up.
What is the 'purpose' of a legal marriage between two sterile heterosexuals or elderly heterosexuals...that is 'lost' to all homosexual couples?
Darkbison7 2 years ago
There are no constitutionally consistent justifications to limit legal marriage because of reproductive organs.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
Interestingly enough, Miss Universe supports marriage equality. There are many people who oppose her opinion, but she knows she is just a beauty queen with an opinion...and citizens are free to either 'like' or 'dislike' her opinion. Maybe Prejean should take notes.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
Can heterosexual monks 'choose' to abandon their heterosexual attraction in order to choose to become asexual?
Can Republican men 'choose' to stop finding other women attractive so they can stop cheating on their wives?
If heterosexuals cannot actively 'choose' to shed their attraction to members of a given gender, then why do we expect gays to have some special ability that heterosexuals lack?
Darkbison7 2 years ago
in same way pedophiles "choose" to be attracted by little children, zoophiles choose to be attracted by animals.
But is this really "choice"? Or this choice is based on certain psychological issues. Homosexuasl are same matter.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
So basically, a grown man's rights are violated when another man has consentual sex with him...because there is no difference in the age of consent of an adult and a child.
Also, an animal is able to express explicit consent to a past or future sexual act, in a court of law.
Comparing homosexual relationships between adults (legal) to pedophilia and such (illegal) is rather silly.
Is it also a choice for white men to be attracted to black women? That changed the country...
Darkbison7 2 years ago
well, there was case in Germany, when adult person anounced i internet that he wants to eat someone. Another adult person replied to this and consent to be eaten. They met, made sex (both are males) and teh cannibal ate his ..."victim", but the man wanted to be eaten. So no problem. Both did what they wanted.
And children in fact do a lot of things they can't consent because of the society adn family. Also in ancient Greece it was normal under aged kids to have sex with their teachers.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
So basically, loss of life in another country is the same as people getting married (and staying alive)?
Keep that argument if you like. I'm sure the court system will see how gay marriage and canibalism are basically the same thing.
We are not in ancient Greece. Children do 'not' do 'a lot of things' as far as legally recognized actions such as marriage.
What is the legally meaningful difference between a gay couple and a sterile straight couple?
Darkbison7 2 years ago
hehe, in deffinition gay marriage is same as sterile straight people? so gay marriage in it's concept is damaged marriage?
The concept of marriage is not just two persons enjoy to share the kitchen. It is based on deep psychological archetypes in human nature. That is why it can't be homosexual. Homosexual co-existance is smth different. If they want marriage, they can but in it's deffinition. We can't call marriage everything. And this is not government decision,it is human nature decision.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Yes, If you argue that legal marriage must be reserved only for people who can procreate, then that bans a lot of heterosexual couples from legal marriage as well. You must be consistent with your argument.
Legal marriage, is governmental recognition of a marriage. Therefore, it IS a government decision, not mob rule.
In the context of law, what can a sterile heterosexual couple do, that a homosexual couple cannot do? Please be specific.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
marriage as a concept is LONG before there is any government and government is created for protection and to take care of the society which is based on families and kins. So the government can't determine things that are already determined by human nature/consciousness and sub consciousness..these things are determined and any break on them is causing a lot of psychological traumas and disorders. And this is proven so many times. It is between man and woman.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Slavery existed before America too. It is human nature to want others to do work for you, and human nature to see different people as 'inferior'.
So according to the 'you can't ever change old traditions' concept, we should bring back slavery, and resume the notion of a woman being property in marriage, unable to file rape charges against her husband.
Name one 'trauma' or 'disorder' caused by gay marriage that is harmful enough to support eternal bans.
Please note, smoking is legal.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
hahah, a LOT of things existed before America, in fact America existed before "americans" went there.
You obviously don't understand a lot of things. I am talking about the human nature as archetypes. These archetypes are in our consciousness. Slavery is function of policy and gevernment. It have nothing to do with sexuality and our consciousness.
And yes it will cause damages, even in heterosexual family the disbalance of the parents causes such things. And the woman as property is in islam.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Whether you believe that only heterosexuality is a common part of human history or not is irrelevant.
There are no laws that say that traditions must be upheld. No matter how old.
You made the appeal to authority granted by the 'age' of a tradition. It was faulty and dogmatic in nature.
You say that any given gay marriage wil cause 'damages'. Please outline how the marriage of a gay couple 'damages' anything at all.
Please remember, smoking causes death and is legal.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
you just can't get it:-).
The traditions are based on this archetypes. Not all, but mostly. And I am not talking about traditions. Because every tradition is based on things in human psyche. So I am not talking about traditions. About human nature. It is different. This have nothing to do with dogma. It is the things, the laws in our psyche, which disbalance causes all the psychic disorders. And it is not about believing. The fact are that heterosexuality IS the common part.:-).
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
It does not matter what you call it. You are making an appeal about 'tradition'.
Until there are laws that say that 'archetypes' or 'traditions' or 'non-scientific assumptions about human nature' are henceforth unquestionable in our legal system, then you do not have much to keep gay marriage from happening.
Homoracial couples were also the 'common' part of society. For thousands of years, people only married within their race. Archetype. Tradition. Human nature. All ignored.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
well, these are scientific, you can find many psycology scientific researches on archetypes, well if you are not familiar with this terms, it's your problem. HAha homoracial, we talk about different sexual behaviour. homosexual were never a part. And you must first read what is archetype.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
I'm definitely not familiar with the laws that say that artchetypes are immune to constitutional scrutiny in the legal system.
Perhaps you can show me these laws.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
so if the government allows killing, it's ok to kill?
For you the legal system is like the dogma for the religious people, if it allows something, it is ok. They say pay your indulgences and you are not guilty. :-).
First of all, the legal system was created to protect the already existing human relations.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
The government cannot allow killing without changing the constitution and allows people to take all of the rights of others through force.
In a murder, a person takes the life and thus 'all' rights of another person.
In a gay marriage, there are no deaths, and people who oppose gay marriage do not lose any preexisting rights whatsoever.
Human relations included subjugation of women. Our laws are not static, and therefore change to favor 'more' rights when no danger is demonstrable.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
well government allows gay "marriage" also by changing the constitution, because there it is defined (like in the most countries and states) as between man and woman. About the harm, not everything is leading to death. Some things are even worst. Homosexuals are annoying minority which is making pressure and manipulating the society to accept something that is not acceptable. Yes lows are not static, if there is need you can make always good war in the name of society...
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
The constitutional ammendment to place a 'man/woman' clause for legal marriage, failed in both houses, under a conservative congress, and conservative president, when only one state had gay marriage. What constitution then, are you reading?
Worst is not the right word to use. You mean 'worse' than death.
Good luck demonstrating how people should rather 'die' than let their gay neighbors get legal marriage rather than just ceremonial marriage...which is legal for them in all states.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
next step pedophiles. Maybe the next time the pedophile party will run their law for dropping down the age for sex to 12 years old kids. :-). Because freedom is really misunderstood.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Because pedophilia marriage is now legal in all locations that have gay marriage. Right?
lol...'pedophile party'.
Your desperation is quite amusing.
I'm still waiting to hear your response to the constitution thing.
Or explain why people should really fear gay marriage more than 'death'.
I'll grab some popcorn. This should be bloody brilliant.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
well not desperation, here the things are quite conservative:-).
Gay co-existence is not and can't be called marriage and I don't think there is a way to equate those two things:-). Also as I said, this is bad for the children, for their normal sexual and psychological growth. Because the wishes of few perverts that want to distort the family values.
About the pedofiles, just wait for few years:-).
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
'Pedophiles' not 'pedoFiles'.
I thought only 14 year old girls used smileys online.
Interracial co-existence was not considered to be a viable form of 'marriage'. It was bad for children, who might grow up thinking it was OK to mix the races. That was not normal for sexual or psychological growth.
As far as gays, we all know that heterosexual children become gay when exposed to gay marriage. Just like gay children all became heterosexuals when straight marriage was accepted.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
Yes, even in heterosexual family when the balance between the parents is los can cause disorders to the children (it can be in many aspects - sexuality is the most delicate thing) , so what is left to artificial "family" of homosexual "parents".There is so many scientifical searches of what is the good family environment for the children. In fact if you are against these traditions, why homosexual want to marry at all..this is just old meaningless tradition. :-).
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Please provide documentation to prove that parents of the same gender are inherently inferior to any parents of opposite gender.
The studies about opposite gender parenting were done in comparison to 'single' parenting, not gay parenting.
Parenting is about what is between the ears, not the legs.
Compare the number of cases where heterosexual parents kill their children, to the number of gay parents that kill theirs. That would mean that the latter provides the least lethal setting.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
interesting fact is that pedophiles are invariably males and almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men and
significant numbers of victims are males: up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls). (you can search for Dr Timothy J. Dailey)
...most of the crimes against children are made by men attracted by their own sex.. coincidence?
And you didn't explained me, why homosexual want to be part of such outdated tradition...?
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Your own statistics are working against you.
Less than one third are against boys...meaning over 66% of the pedophiles are heterosexual.
Reference to a 'significant number' didnt help you either. 5% can be 'significant', but that still leaves the vast majority of pedophiles as heterosexuals.
'Almost one third' hardly fits the term 'most'.
The 2/3rds you left out, were the majority, and they were heterosexual pedophiles.
You ended the post, by begging the question. lol
Darkbison7 2 years ago 2
When you start to try to pull out arguments to ban homosexuality, then you have truly run out of things to say about 'legal marriage.'
Good luck with banning gay marriage under the banner of 'if gay marriage is legal, then gays might catch up to heterosexuals in the whole pedophilia scene.'
Darkbison7 2 years ago
this doesn;t help homosexuals in fact, because this means every crime against boy is made by homosexual.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
So basically, you believe that every crime against a boy is done by a male......and never a female such as the female school teachers that molest boys...
Let's not forget that you clearly showed us that the remaining over 2/3rds of cases were heterosexual pedophilia cases.
Congratulations, you just made a case to ban heterosexuals from being parents...since a high instance of heterosexual pedophilia should preclude 'all' heterosexuals from raising children.
Bravo.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
haha school teacher molested 15 years old boys...or the boys the teachers. Yes there are such percents. But this is normal. It is normal attraction man - woman. Of course this can lead to the opposite thing. Boys with dominant mothers can become homosexuals. Also children victims of sexual crimes. And this is problem with the morality in the society. And you can preclude heterosexual, because this is the only way for children. The family is the natural enviroment for them. Male/Female.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
So basically, anything that is seen as alien for a family structure must be eliminated through federal bans.
Therefore, step-parents must be outlawed. They are not the natural or traditional parents. Hence, it should be illegal to marry anyone but the biological parents of your child.
I like how you said that it is normal for grown women to molest minors.
If homosexuality was 'caused' by parenting, then why don't all of the boy's siblings also 'become gay'? How is that boy unique
Darkbison7 2 years ago
i prefer that marrigae be between a man and a woman.... BUT I don't think homosexuals make BAD parents.. please don't let this person speak for all of us Christians..
ihateneveen 2 years ago
Your preferences are fine. When gay marriage gets equal legal recognition, you are free to retain your preferences.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
i don't need your permission to retain my preferances, just like you don't need prejeans permission to lick pussy
ihateneveen 2 years ago
yes you do.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
why do you care what carrie thinks anyway? I mean she's is NOT stopping you from living your life you know. if she wants to be narrowminded that's her problem.
ihateneveen 2 years ago
What in blazes are you talking about? This issue is extremely old. I can care less what an ex-runner up to a beauty pageant says or thinks. Furthermore, she is definitely not stopping me from marrying my girlfriend and having children.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
what would the homosexual parents want the children to be when they grow up? Gay or lesbian as themselves.
hhn117 2 years ago
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that children raised by same-sex couples are any more likely to be gay themselves. I imagine gay parents would want for their children what ANY loving parent would want for their child - For them to happy and healthy.
sammehwhoreface 2 years ago
it sounds like you are more concerned with banning gay people from being parents, including lesbians somehow.
How do you propose we strip gay parents of their children? Is the biological parent inferior to a heterosexual foster parent in their cases?
Should we only allow fertile heterosexual couples who can make their own kids, do adopt? Or maybe rely on the small fraction of sterile couples?
Or maybe heterosexual parents kill their kids more often than gay parents. Interesting...
Darkbison7 2 years ago
and for parenting is important everything. Most of the things that the child accept from the parents is in subconscious level. Even through the pregnancy period. Of course this with homosexual parents is not possible, because they can't have the both parents in same time. So the child will be separate from one of it's real parents. Which is not moral and normal for the growth of the kid.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
So basically, step children and children in single parent homes are in immoral homes.
Your premise is that homosexuals are automatically bad parents, without any data to back that up.
Furthermore, bad parents do not lose the right to marry either way.
Why do parents that abuse, neglect, or even kill their children get to remain legally married?
I thought being an unfit parent made you lose your marriage rights...
Darkbison7 2 years ago
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Darkbison7 2 years ago
well, there is no the concept of marriage with gays. And this concept is not made by any government, it is coded in our subconciousness also in the collective memory of our civilization and and the ones before this one. This is called archetype. It is more than just morality or something said by religions or governments. And as it is know the distortion of the archetypes causes a lot of psychological problems..
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
Which are?
Darkbison7 2 years ago
FU Carrie.
socalvet 2 years ago
Don't you know what you're doing here? You're trying to use rhetoric to manipulate your point of view in a direction that favors your opinion, but you're make one very big mistake: You are forgetting to site realistic facts about what is associated with this Sin. For one thing, the rectum was not meant for reproduction or pleasure. Nature did not intend it for that purpose. It's real purpose is to deprecate feces.
Personally, I really don't care what you do.
But you and your kind do hurt people
guitarttimman 2 years ago
because you try to force other people in society to either go along with what you're doing, or you PICK certain ones and label them as being like that even if they say they are not. You preach it in the school, yet you don't want God's word brought up!
People like you FIRE people from a job just because they don't agree with your views, AND, a supportive example of this can easily be seen in the way Carrie Prejean was treated by Perez Hilton. He slandered her name and insulted her with profanity
guitarttimman 2 years ago
So in the land of freedom is hard to have own your own opinion.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
tell me about it serg. It's common to get your so-called freedom violated in the US. even on the job with the AT WILL EMPLOYMENT. You can be fired for NO REASON! That's America the so-called land of the free - YEAH RIGHT!
guitarttimman 2 years ago
That's right man!
"Freedom" ... hahahhahahaha
Fagdom, where fags tell shit.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
This is a silly topic, it should be choice. You may not like it but why can't gays get married? It's not affecting your life in any way what-so-ever. You can hate all you want but it doesn't affect your life so why rule it out of someone who has made the choice to be gay?
Honestly, if marriage was all it was cracked up to be then there would be a lower divorce rate, it's not some pure entity that hasn't been tarnished so welcome change and let people make their own choices as to a union or not
art11art12 2 years ago
hey art, why can't people screw animals on the street, or eat plates of crap in the classroom? Some things are gross and shouldn't be allowed. I support Carrie's opinion and not that she said she was going to form an army or anything. She just stated what "SHE" thinks about it and was punished for giving an honest opinion!
guitarttimman 2 years ago 2
There's a difference between what you stated guitartimman and what I stated. I don't see homosexuals fornicating in the streets..and hopefully not, I'm sure it happens both sides, eating plates of crap in the class room is just unrealistic and foolish and ulltimately comes down to choice too, if someone wanted to do that I'm sure they would. Unless you can come up with a more reational sounding debate then I see no reason why being gay should be denied the same rights as straight.
art11art12 2 years ago
rational* sorry for the typo.
As for her opinion to it, that's totally fine, I never had a problem with it. This is not about her opinion as it is about the refusal for people to adapt and change with the evolving social aspects of human life within society
art11art12 2 years ago
yes if it is choice, gays have chosen what to do and what not to. If they choose not to be like heterosexuals, why we must equate their kind of relationship with the heterosexual one? They chose to have different concept of relationship that is not marriage, and now they enforce people to say their relationship is marriage.... If I choose not to learn for architect and after that I wan't from people to accept me like one and to say my rights are broken.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
At the pageant she he could have given her true opinion of marriage being only male-female. But she and others like her don't respect the fact that they don't know how to ethically decide the rights of others. She didn't also respect the right of same-sex couples to decide for themselves. I'm sure she took that right to "choose" away with her prop 8 vote. I think, in a way, the pageant was a trial by proxy of prop 8. Events since then have given a fine lesson about bigotry and poetic justice.
eVVVVV 2 years ago
fuck faggits. line their ass on a ditch and shoot the fuckers
soccerstud22222 2 years ago
Does she realise how CLOSE Prop8 was?
I can see what she means, but heteros aren't exactly doing their best at guarding the "sanctity of marriage". It's ridiculous that it should even be a vote; it's a RIGHT. There's not need for discussion.
12345random67890 2 years ago
Wow... what a bigot thing to say right there... Your one that shows why many countries think American is a hypocritical nation. Al even Americans with comprehension and potent statures think so... Also, its quite ironic that other countries are populating with followers of Christ. You must have a lot of free time to even come up with things to say that leads to no real potent grounds.
wdrx02 2 years ago
fuck you. come from a little shit country and you think you can talk shit on us. other countries have nothing on america
soccerstud22222 2 years ago
idiot, there are countries formed long ago when Amerika was on it's real inhabitants.
And YOU don't have RIGHT to mess up with the other countries and give them your stupid UNJUSTUCE.
Go away from america and leave it to it's real citizens, the native indians.
sergiomarchelli 2 years ago
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wdrx02 2 years ago
Funny how you strongly believe in laws like a religion where its made up and altered by humans with trial and errors...
wdrx02 2 years ago
You may be right, however, whats so hard to take an initiative to believe. Isn't the future improved by the past? Can the past not be truth carried on foward? How do you provie its ALL fiction? Mind is open but so is heart... they work together; however. The longest distant in our humany body is the heart to mind for they may nto agree which is why many times... thoughts and heart can be decieving to itself.
wdrx02 2 years ago
lmfao xD
"As a proponent of heterosexual marriage, would you demonstrate your support by dating only ex-gay men?"
All I'm going to say is Carrie please don't go into politics, they will eat you and your fake boobs alive. she is dumb as hell!
itzyourcrayons 2 years ago
THESTAR- what is your point? Yeah I have trouble with any religion shoving beliefs like Christians do, but since we are talking about gayrights here, and organizations like NOM are funded by Christians, and the most powerful leaders here are the same.
If it makes you feel better, I slammed some other video where some Rabbi's told us it was "forbidden" to vote for an politician who advocates gay rights. Trust me, I'm equal opportunity on all superstitious and stupid people like this.
hipstermi 2 years ago
STAR- so you just compared American Christians to Saudi Arabia Muslims? The same country that oppressed women's rights as well?
As you know, Christianity is not the "only" religion here. Also, which "Christian"? My Petecostal friends tell me the Catholics are "lost" and the Catholics say the Baptists are "wrong".
But no the Christians here just want to shove one religion down our throat.
hipstermi 2 years ago
Yep our freedoms is what makes this country great. I will never live anywhere else. I LOVE my country.
getalife04 2 years ago 2
personally I don't care if people want to be gay go for it that just leave more women for the straight guys :P but I am married with 2 kids in a straight relationship so gays have no affect on me at all.
getalife04 2 years ago
GETA- good points and I wonder if that's why someConservatives hate lesbians ;) they take women away!
Funny thing, you notice how enraged many conservatives get over two men, but seem perfectly fine with two women due to the 3sum fantasy. Bi women, however, hate homophobes and bigots.
hipstermi 2 years ago
As far as I am concerned who am I to tell someone else who they should love. If you want to be gay then be gay I could care less. I think that there will always be enough straight people out there to keep the human race growing natually. but then they can always get invitro and have babies with a lesbian couple.But the only part I worry about if gay couples have children those kids could be constantly harassed because of their parents being gay. That is all that I worry about.
getalife04 2 years ago
GETA- That's not really much of a concern. When I was younger, I heard the same concern about Inter racial marriage- "kids could be harassed..." Thankfully, no one really seems to care about that today.
Kids will probably always make fun of anyone who is different about anything (looks, social status, weight, disability, etc.) If you meanay parents adopting...is that really so bad considering all the lonely kids out there waiting to be adopted?
hipstermi 2 years ago
Well you have a good point but at the same time though why give them more ammo? Ultimately it's not up to me if they want to adopt go for it but they should just prepare the child for what's coming. I think the biggest disservice that parents do now adays is the just don't talk to them. they think they are a kid they don't need to know and if you ask me they need to know it BECAUSE they are a kid. I don't hold back much from my kids other than stuff about sex bc they are 4 and 2 lol. no need.
getalife04 2 years ago
what a bitch at the end there. perez sure got that one right.
cciemail 2 years ago
she is the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen...she got breast implants..(an abomination in the bible), just to win a contest so that she could protest gays for what she believes is an abomination. Hypocritcal at best. That is like ME robbing a bank to get money to afford a lawyer so I could protest bank robbers...Fucking cunt is abusing her title, for her personal agenda which was not the reason she was voted Miss Californicunt.but again..bible thumpers have tunnel vision. just like republicans
deeter131 2 years ago 2
ok show me where the bible talks about fake titties lol. What does it say? "Thou shalt not get bigger titties?" Or "Thou shalt not go with the C Cups?" LMFAO
getalife04 2 years ago
Her position on same sex marriage is based on the bible apparently. Why should we accept her ideology?
rockabilly235 2 years ago 2
You know the whole gay marriage thing is such HUGE deal and everyone has their opinion. People say that it is a religious issue which the bible doesn't say anything directly against homosexuality. It's a civil rights issue every american citizen has the right to the same rights as everyone else. When you look at it from that stance they should be able to get married. Honestly I could care less either way it wont bother me if gays can get married.
getalife04 2 years ago 3
"man shall not lie with man, it is detestable". Sounds 'against homosexuality' to me.
davidn87 2 years ago
Actually that isn't an accurate quote, it says " a man shall not lie with a man as he would lie with a woman" or something of that sort. But remember that is from the King James version of the bible that was written by MAN. Not GOD not Jesus but by man nearly 1,500 years AFTER Jesus was supposedly on earth. Sorry but I think that it is certainly a HUGE possibility that these 14 different men just put in the bible what they wanted people to do. Bible is flawed and narrow minded.
getalife04 2 years ago 2
Also davidn87, Do you REALLY think that marriage is really as sacred and blissful as people make it out to be. Nearly 50% of adults have been married more than once. I live in oklahoma which is in the top 3 states for divorce. People talk of marriage as a sacred unity and blah blah blah but come on! Look at hollywood! They change spouses as often as I change socks! Marriage is no longer a big deal to people, they get married for money and greed and all kinds of crap. Bible is irrelevent anymore.
getalife04 2 years ago
and that quote is always taken out of context, because that was back in the days when , when a man won a battle against another man, he would have sex with him to assert his dominance over the other guy. not out of love..or emotion...but in typical uneducated fashion,, the bible thumpers only see the parts of the words in the bible that make their own lives convenient!!
deeter131 2 years ago 2
any quote from anything or anyone criticizing homosexual behavior,
is always a lie,taken out of context, irrelevant,flawed,hate speech,inaccurate,out dated,twisted,
redn40 2 years ago
Please cite your references.
jacquiemt99 2 years ago
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Camylover16 2 years ago
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Camylover16 2 years ago
oh!
bfdjkhfdknhji 2 years ago
The true abomination of homosexuality is the way that gay families are treated in the name of Christ. Gay people are denied employment, housing, and equal access to services that heterosexuals take for granted.
How Christian is it to deny the children of same sex couples access to the health care benefits of the non-biological parent in a same sex relationship?
who care about this bimbo(miss california opinion)
beargio 2 years ago 2
go get ass fucked you faggot whore
jokerjokejoe 2 years ago
wake up AMERICA what she is saying is so ture! Gays want to force there lifesyte on everone one ~
jokerjokejoe 2 years ago
LOL
jacquiemt99 2 years ago
She's Beautiful.
spokeshole 2 years ago
She just lost my regard when she brought the Bible into this.
amwright81 2 years ago 2
your a idiot
LIGHTSOUTFOOLS 2 years ago
Wow, I can't believe NOM would hire a beauty queen winner after Miss Teen USA's gaffe from last year.... watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
Since when did beauty queen winners drive US policy on human rights?
KDANTEATER 2 years ago
the *original* definition is a union blessed by God.
abbyfromoz 2 years ago
No, That is not correct.
In ancient Chinese society... the origin of Chinese marriage is a story about Nüwa and Fu Xi who invented proper marriage procedures after becoming married.
...couples were married in what is called an extra-clan marriage better known as antithetic marriage.
This occurred around 5000 BC.
FYI - Christian "God" didn't come around until about five thousands years later.
jacquiemt99 2 years ago
another publicity stunt....
shay2707 2 years ago
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.... I totally agree with MISS CALIFORNIA answer. I rather be Biblically correct with god than politically correct with the president which leads to an eternity in hell. This woman answer takes courage wrapped up in bravery, and she make me proud to be a woman of christianity. There are still some left in sodom and gomorah
jesusANme 2 years ago
A un-thought statment is what I say you have there but its fine...
Let me ask, if laws aren't based off a book, then where? If ideas, where are ideas from and why stupid? What is stupid to you and what is NOT? If its just your own view, the I have to say... start learning how to be more open with your heart.
wdrx02 2 years ago
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I agree with the judge's decision. The press has viciously attacked Miss California Carrie Prejean willfully, maliciously, and without reason. I am proud of Miss California Carrie Prejean for being such a strong woman. I am glad that the Donald and Miss California Carrie Prejean reminded us that our Constitution is important. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion must be defended from attack. For those who would attack Miss California attack the US Constitution.
AequitasVeritas7777 2 years ago
nicely said Fidlin55
God bless
yakoxneurolol 2 years ago
i love her! good job! stick to what u believe in girl! i agree with u! the bible does state that gay marriage is wrong
sweetcookie4590 2 years ago
Seriously? All I'm going to say is where do the majority of gay kids come from? Straight families, yes? If marriage is so sacred why are there so many divorces. Really bitch GO KICK ROCKS!!!
fooolio14 2 years ago
i disagree with her completely and think that she's stupid. BUT SHE IS SO FUCKING HOT!!!!!!!!!!
runswithscissorsalot 2 years ago
Carrie's a CUNT
Hdtexan 2 years ago
LOL. Look at zippy24u's photo. Stereotypical white trailer park trash!
Shirtless, mullet. I wouldn't be surprised if he listened to coutnry and western music, wears tank tops, smokes cigarettes, hits his wife/girl friend, lets his kids (if he has any) run around in their underwear and leaves them without a shower/bath for weeks at a time. His kids would have poor nutrition too. Drives a gas guzzling truck, etc...
lynnctd 2 years ago
FUCK THE FAGS! Go Carrie Prejean!
BrianCB8 2 years ago
Prejean says her position is about being "Biblically correct." That's ironic since prancing around half-naked on stage, lying, and taking nude "modeling" pictures doesn't seem the least bit Biblical. I would expect more consistency when someone tries to grab the Biblical high-road.
rasaxSF 2 years ago
NH is likely to support marriage equality as the state's (along with VT & ME) legislature passed marriage equality. The last step is for the governor of New Hampshire to sign. NY state is up next and it is likely to pass there too. Also sexual orientation is a part of the new hate crimes bill that will likely pass through congress very soon and President Obama is anxiously waiting to sign. Time is on our side as the anti-gay professional bigots are fast becoming irrelevant.
Rockymtntruth 2 years ago
"You are dumber, uglier, and stinkier than bullshit."
Wow you are a poor arguer. Loser. The ads were truthful.
And I'm glad FL doesn't even allow civil unions!!!!
And Michele Bachmann said that faggots suffer from sexual dysfunction and sexual identity disorders. We need more patriots like her in our government!!!!
Justgetout 2 years ago
Justgetout Florida is changing slowly as well. It's just a matter of time. Michelle Bachman is on her way out. She's a total wingnut psycho who is probably stuck on drugs like Boss Rushy Limbaugh.
Rockymtntruth 2 years ago
Anyone who calls same sex marriage "faggot marriage", etc. really needs to get a fucking life. You guys are the same ilk that would have hung black people and dragged them behind your red necked pickups just because they spoke out about being allowed interracial marriage (another form of marriage equality). What happened to you guys? Did your priest cornhole you or something?
Rockymtntruth 2 years ago