Twilight: Bella and Edward meet, flirt, and look hot

[HeroicZombie120]

The hell is so goddamn funny?!

[humansince1995]

Twilight: the inciteful novel about vampire love affairs, which was designed to intice analytical debate among the very best of over obsessive readers. ;)

[iancabi21]

damn now i want to watch twilight :(

[iancabi21]

OMGGG JUSTIN CHON is at the begining of the video lol :D

[lenthokchom]

guys plz tell me wat's the name of the backgroud music at the end of this vidio???

[ariascan2]

Love I meant.I think Bella is very strong and courageous for daring to live a very difficult and complicated love story and willing to risk everything for it.

[narutolove12]

@ariascan2 however she completely derails this by not fight for her man , who she really only wants sex from but i guess thats all us teenagers, but instead tries to harm an later kill herself because he left instead of tracking him down or trying move own or something like that..on top of depending on him like a drug addict does drugs

[daedalus71]

@narutolove12 Yeah, I think you're right. Bella's desire for Edward is like that of an addict or a depressive, someone who cannot feel good about themselves and so has to turn to something or someone else to validate themselves.

[daedalus71]

@ariascan2 Yes, you have a good point. Bella is strong and courageous. That's probably part of why so many young women identify with her story. You have given me some insight into the appeal of Twilight. ... However, I still question the ends towards which she directs her strength and courage. And I wonder, what is the real-world analogue for Bella's struggles? What would it mean for a teenage girl to become "like Bella" in her own life?

[ariascan2]

She is 17 and she is in love for the first time. And she is not in love with the most popular and athletic guy but the strangest and loneliest guy in town. Everybody knows how powerful the first love is. It’s a love full of hope. As long as you get older you lose that innocence and faith and you turn into someone more sceptical and even cynical about lov

[ariascan2]

I like Bella because it’s not the typical, stupid, vulgar and frivolous teenager that we are used to see in American movies or MTV programs. It’s not the kind of girls who is only interested in clothes, popularity, make-up or be the quarterback’s girlfriend. She is sensitive, intelligent, reserved and she doesn’t care for all the trivial conventions that run a teenager’s life.

[ariascan2]

Thank you for your response. It’s difficult for me trying to explain myself in another language, but I’ll try it anyway. Why do you say that Bella has a subordinate role? Which constraints in your opinion she doesn’t fight against?

From my point of view she already broke one of the most ancient taboos: the separation between dead and alive. She is in love with an “Undead”, a monster, a potential killer. It’s not a sickly sweet affair.

[ariascan2]

Thank you for your response. It’s difficult for me trying to explain myself in another language, but I’ll try it anyway. Why do you say that Bella has a subordinate role? Which constraints in your opinion she doesn’t fight against?

From my point of view she already broke one of the most ancient taboos: the separation between dead and alive. She is in love with an “Undead”, a monster, a potential killer. It’s not a sickly sweet affair.

[daedalus71]

@ariascan2 She is physically subordinate to Edward; he could destroy her life at a moment's notice and not suffer repercussions, while she has no corresponding power over him. When she asks him to give her this power, he refuses on the grounds that he knows what is best for her. Association with him draws her into a situation of mortal peril in which she is entirely helpless to defend herself, in which Edward must protect her as a father would protect a child.

[daedalus71]

@ariascan2 We can compare her to figures like Jane Eyre from the Romantic period, women who fell in love with Byronic men. Thanks to your comment, I can see the parallels, and I have a deeper appreciation for the appeal of Twilight. But even so it seems to me that Jane Eyre, for instance, was pushing agains the constraints of deeply patriarchal society, on in which women were not free to be desiring subjects. Mr. Rochester was not a vampire but a person with power bestowed on him by society ...

[daedalus71]

@ariascan2 Whereas to me Edward Cullen seems like a romanticized, idealized vision of a possessive, controlling, occasionally abusive boyfriend who dates a much younger, socially marginal, insecure girlfriend and keeps her subordinate to himself by drawing her into a social network in which her power and even safety are entirely dependent on him.

[daedalus71]

@ariascan2: If Edward were a real person, he would be the type of person a girl should stay far away from. He stalks Bella. He breaks into her home at night when she is sleeping. He feels a strong compulsion to commit violence to her. He can restrain this compulsion only by an ongoing effort of will. Her involvement with him makes her a target of gang violence. And so on...

[daedalus71]

@ariascan2: Sorry for the lengthy reply to your question. Your points are also valid, and they sit side by side with the issues I am pointing out. It is interesting to consider this from different angles.

[ariascan2]

And those feelings were often violent, terribly passionate, dark and dangerous, against the human laws and human conventions and almost ever the stories ended tragically. I guess you don't like this kind of literature.

Excuse me for my English Grammar. It's not my native language.

[daedalus71]

@ariascan2 That's a really interesting interpretation. I had never thought of that. I have read Wuthering Heights, but I was a teenager at the time and I didn't appreciate it. Now that I've been around the block a bit, I do appreciate those kinds of irrational dangerous passions. Maybe that's why the film spoke to me even though my rational mind doesn't like it.

[daedalus71]

@ariascan2 Also, now you have me thinking that there is definitely a kind of Enlightenment rationalism in the type of feminism that criticizes these films. Hm. But also, Bella seems in a very subordinate role. In 19th century novels one understands that sort of thing because that was the only possibility available to women at the time; Jane Eyre for instance is actually pushing against the constraints of her society. But isn't Bella settling into those constraints rather than challenging them?

[ariascan2]

Have you ever read books from the romanticism period? "Wuthering Heights", "Jane Eyre", "Werther", "Notre dame de Paris", Edgar Allan Poe's tales? I guess you haven't. I'm not saying that Stephanie Meyer's novels are on the same level that those books but I think, she likes romanticism literature and she is inspired by the books of that period. In the Romanticism, feelings were more important than reason.

[kitten042600]

i hate bellas facial exspresstions 

[eggyeggygoo]

@kitten042600

the lack of it, you mean :|

[bethanybee111]

@meganisafreak121 interesting spelling of awkward

[foreverjuicy122]

@bethanybee111 haha

[roXy3tiger]

bella's face doesent change `D:

[hsmknoll]

when edward aka robert says "Hello" it sounds a little wierd but he is so cute

[meganisafreak121]

it's so aquard when they first met

[mslondoner97]

LoveThe Qualiy Dude.