Added: 3 years ago
From: expertvillage
Views: 166,539
Sort by time | Sort by thread (beta)

Link to this comment:

Share to:

All Comments (296)

Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment!
  • Thanks for the education of the parts of the sword.

  • Musashi sword?

  • It is sting ray skin, yes there are many types but shark is not one of them. It is a blood groove and these competition types, not battle ready, have the groove to create sound. If it was a true hand forged sword using the metal composition the ancients used the sword would not dull after seven cuts. It would be very hard to dull period.

  • what noop, better he stays with his aikido lol, maybe he is better adjucated in!

  • Blood grove...FAIL its a Fuller used for lighting

  • where's the technique?!?

  • rays are a type of shark. and its cald a bohi not a blood groove

  • @perfectshot77 Well judging by the sai's shape it would be very defensive but a katana is very hard and can maybe be strong enough to cut the sai. thumbs up if you agree ...

  • @perfectshot77 in some respects your probably right as si's are used two at i timee however they are very short and samurais would have carried atleast two swords anyway

  • Isaac woundering if you knew anything I could look up that would give me a start

  • I'm getting duel swords with a blood groove that is actualy a blood hole... all the way to the end... realy Sharp and strong...160$ for both and the sheath they go in... I'm trying to find ways to fight with both at the same time...

  • ive got a samurai sword there awesome things :)

  • if i could use it again SEGI COLLEGE bastard

  • KATANA'S FOR LIFE!!!!!!!

  • just got a new sord4 my birthday

  • A quality sword would not become dull in 7 strikes, and depending on the type of steel it won't rust from touching it either...

  • @ltjosh10 I believe upon tradition the cutting edge of the Katana (and most Japanese made cutting tools) is made of a high carbon steel; a very hard steel which allows a very keen edge to be put on it. With this comes an easy chance of rusting however. Around this is brittle steel is wrapped a softer steel, which may have more stainless properties.

  • @Coogah88 They used tamahgane, not different steels, I do know that they heat tempered a certain section to make it brittle and wrapped the un-tempered steel around.

  • @Coogah88 Hmmmm, guess I got my cutting equipment mixed up. 

  • @Coogah88 so when katana rusts it would be edge first right?

  • @malevolenceXXXensues My experience with Japanese cutting tools are limited to kitchen knives. They are made with a high carbon core wrapped with a lower carbon outter. Since the core is what is exposed to the elements you have to keep that particularly clean, however I would assume every part of the blade would rust since it is not stainless grade steel.

    Now in relation to katanas, anything made without a stainless grade will rust. And if they use a high carbon/low carbon "sandwich" I read

  • @Coogah88 Anything WITH a stainless grade will rust, as well.

  • @ChrisRiley93 This is true.

  • @malevolenceXXXensues somewhere recently that high carbon will rust slower than low carbon. So I was actually wrong in my first post. =/

  • the blood groove effect _may_ be a beneficial side effect of the FULLER on any blade. Take a look at the classic Roman Gladius, which conquered most of the ancient world. No "blood groove" on those. The gladius is very obviously a thrusting and stabbing weapon. Somehow I doubt very much the mythical "wound wrapping tight around the blade" had a measureable effect. The Romans were engineering masters, they would have used a fuller if it was that essential to killing.

  • "This is a very powerfull weapon" such a load of garbage. who writes the scripts for expert village? any true practioner of the sword will tell you that the weapon is not powerfull. wether its a spoon or a knife its just a useless piece of metal. the power comes from the person using it. thank you expert village for another useless video.

  • wow this is awsome i wanna learn to fight with waepons i am on karate kyokushin we dont use weapons :S so i wanna do another fight sport is this recomendit

  • @Lucadi0 u lucky bech ive been trying to get in kyokushin for a long while now but there isnt anyone who teaches where i live...

  • the bohi is not a blood grove, it exists so that the katana may become lighter. Katana are a style of wearing the sword- blade facing up. Tachi is facing down.

  • @DUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK Your claim may be true, but it still acts as a blood groove.. Without it, the wound would wrap tight around the sword and become hard to pull out.. The groove allows for blood to flow through it so it is much easier

  • if you practice long enough you dont cuuuaaaaarggghh!!! that would b funny :D

  • thats a small sword O . o

  • @crayzeesteve u want a 2handed claymor

  • @SpicyHam na a diachi would be a good one, a claymore looked nothing like these O . o

  • @crayzeesteve Actually that's an average 3 foot blade on a katana. I would just imagine on a youtube video it doesn't look big, but most one handed swords actually aren't large. A claymore, heavier katana (of which I cannot remember the name of I apologize), and broadsword/ greatsword are examples of bigger blades. A kodachi is a small sword. Seriously, it's not much bigger then a knife.

  • he looked while putting away, hes not supposed to do that. also the sword is longer but the Katana usually is larger in size

  • @mookemaster222 lol he was just showing the way to do the sheathing

  • Comment removed

  • i get nervous every time he runs his hand across the blade

  • seme is actually ray skin not shark

    

  • @thitichaiwongmanee it can be either way even though ray skin is more traditional

  • bo hi is not a blood groove!!

  • lol... menuki are little bamboo pegs that hold the handle and the blade together.

    And why people dont know diference between Aikido and Iaido?

  • STOP TOUCHING IT!!!!!

  • @walatalalaw Its probably not sharpened, judging by how often his fingers go near it. Most practitioners or Aikido and Iaido stick with an inexpensive iaito (blunt blade), and bring out their shinken (sharp one) rarely only for cutting practice.

  • @hellraiserpop I wasn't saying that because he might cut himself (he seems to know how to handle a sword), but rather because touching a katana blade with your bare hands isn't great for it's "health" ;) the grease on your hands could make the blade rust if you don't wipe it off and properly clean the blade.

    But if this is actualy an inexpensive sword like you said, then that doesn't realy apply...

  • the bo-hi is not a blood groove, its there to make it lighter, a no bo-hi katana cuts better than one with bo-hi, a katana have no need for a blood groove, it just go right through

  • What a garbage sword... if you were to make a video out of it and put an effort to wear that "robe" the at least get a sword that's a bit legit.

    That sword is about 300 or less and made out of junk metal.

  • @Refused2Break that's why it's dull after 7 cuts, you see people cutting tons of tatama without sharpening with they proper blades

  • @Waterman117 Butterfly knife is more concealable, a daitou is more noticeable obviously. But a daito is somehow more illegal than a concealable handgun?

  • i want a katana :( all i got is a butterfly knife :(

  • @ZzCookiezNCakezZ hahaha

  • "Some days some nights, some live some die in the way of the Samurai, some fight, some bleed, sun up to sun down, the sons of a battlecry.....A battlecry.

  • Works of art

  • There is no such thing as a blood groove. It is called fuller and it is made to lighten the sword without effecting its durability.

  • @rasnac your very correct . the "blood groove" is to make the weapon lighter and more balanced very good deduction :D

  • its so funny how these are trying to be banned in some states even for display an aesthetic purposes; but now its okay to blow someones brains out when they break in to rob you with a gun ; but its illegal to sever that gun hand and have them running away with their tails under their legs.........great law the united states of embarrassment has these days............

  • @MusicChrono Cold weapon I meant!

  • actual katana made by the original methods of tamagane with many folds will not dull with just a few cuts

  • @dragateli this is assuming no armor cuts. in warm times your slashing against armor.

  • @dragateli thats if your fighting opponents with no armor, and not clashing blades. blades clashing and slashing against armor will definetley dull a blade

  • @EvilDarkJackel I agree with you on everything you just said except...Its just a show, while an incredible one at that, its still fiction. Like I said the sakabato is an invention of modern times and cannot truly be classified as a samurai sword seing as it is made in the modern era and therefore is like many swords today, even though they are well made and functional...they are not authentic

  • @Vadion12 authentic = archaic

  • @GamingIsTheBest it may be old but its true to form, its not a real samurai sword if it wasnt made in feudal japan

  • Blood grove?? he he

  • @EvilDarkJackel if you hit me very hard in the head yes, but hitting me in the leg...niot so much. Samurai X is an amazing show, please dont ruin it with your stupidity. There are such things as Sakabato but they are a modern creation which stemmed from Samurai X and were not actually used by any real samurai. Yes if you were to whack someone in the head with a reverse blade sword chances are they would die but that could be said of any solid object not just a sword

  • @EvilDarkJackel as a Samurai X fan I must ask you to refrain from letting such stupid things out of your mouth in the future thank you

  • @EvilDarkJackel Aikido is the art of peace. It teaches how to react in any situation facing either bare hands of weapons. In aikido, we also learn to handle the Bo, the Jo, the Bokken and the Tanto. Do do so, we do have to learn katas, so that the attack is made properly, to be able to learn, as well, the proper way to react. Uke and Nage (applying and receiving the technique) both need to know what to do in the best way. Hope that answers your question :D

  • thanks

  • @EvilDarkJackel right?

  • His terminology is correct, but the subtitles are filled with errors. Someone who didn't know the terminology must have written them later.

  • i didn't see even one technique

  • @JorgyxD then clearly you didnt read the title correct, its talking about the swords themselves

  • its chenness cutlery???

  • @ddhydigc No.

  • uuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmuuuu­uuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmm

  • Cool. Very nice and informative video. As a beginner semi-practicing Aikido student(wish I had time to do it more) this was nice to watch :)

  • hm, yes, you make terrible dim sum. no wonder you are out of business.

  • the artists with the best odds to survive: ‘the student’ and ‘the scholar.’ (for those who want to delve in more, seek out Shakespeare’s plays, and you shall find the reference.) The others, like these nearsighted commentators with foul mouths, will be lay waste unto the battlefield with their ilk.

  • Reading these children’s comments only further validates the difference from those who ‘do karate’ and those few who practice the Arts of the Martial Way. Regardless of any mistakes this earnest practitioner did in this video, the greatest mistake was made by the commentators. These are the ones who will never learn and be nothing more. Antecedent to them are the practitioners who seek to follow the doctrine of the dynamic understanding of the warrior-student, the artists

  • the comment were made by the self assuming 'superior' students eager to point out the mistakes! And so, like the many videos I have watched, these commentators demonstrated not only the level of their language skills but their status as a practitioner which is equal to nothing more than teenage boys spreading their peacock feathers trying to impress and prove their manhood; it’s like watching boyscouts trying to impress a Vietnam Veteran with their prowess in basket weaving.

  • It is interesting to see all the comments; personally, of the many videos I have seen, this at least was done with sincerity in its purpose with great effort to try to be accurate and show proper respect for the art of the sword. Most of the videos I have seen are energized to demonstrate the testosterone of the practitioner and usually done poorly. Speaking of which, the comments of this video are the only thing that wasn't done with sincere intention to the Arts of the Martial Way; the

  • NEVER TOUCH IT AGAIN!

  • The Samurai sword is the most deadly weapon.

  • @vboxeca *Shoots foot*

  • @vboxeca depends how yo udefine deadly ? I say a whore with a cup of wine full of poison is more deadly :D

  • @sunreaper2 I'll have to agree! 

  • @vboxeca chainsaw is more deadly

  • @vboxeca i thought it was the nuclear bomb lol

  • @MrPancho101 lol

  • @vboxeca hmmm, depends on the range LOL

  • @vboxeca thats were you are wrong, the pen is the most dangerous weapon. -.-

  • @vboxeca

    no...

  • @vboxeca indeed but right after firearms due to range and power

  • excellent to watch

  • Comment removed

  • If you're going to learn about the samurai at least learn how the japanese characters sound so you pronounce it right... haha

  • @Lightningz1 you stupid kok sucker this is profesional ideo so fuck off

  • @RogerBazookatone Lawl rage more bro. It only makes me laugh at your stupidity.

  • @Lightningz1 : he's pronouncing them fine.

  • @Halofreakanoid He pronounces some of them right, but not all.

  • thats not a blood groove thats just something made up by us westerners....its acually to slightly reduce wight aswell

  • Obviously that's not a Katana, looks like a Chinese fake. It doesn't have the waves on his sharp area that symbolizes the true Samurai Katana.

  • @piontro that is an katana there are no good chinese copies of catanas therefor a Aikido student of his rank wouldnt be using a bad vertion ashole, and it's a katana when the sword is bent altrough, dumbass

  • @piontro not all katana have the pattern on the edge you dumb fucking cunt do some research on the blade before you try and make comment you fucking retard

  • @pyrosonfire why you have to be such an idiot about something, he made a video about a sword, not done something to destroy the world

  • actually the same is rayskin

  • id love to cut his hand off for touching on the blade like that, its like sniffing a gun barrel dipshit, why are all these expert village guys completely void of any knowledge..

  • @EgagLatsev Simply he is from the USA a Fucking ignorant who's not able to point a map of the USA in a world map. They cut the part where he cuts himself by being an IDIOT.LOL.

  • @EgagLatsev shut the fuck up assbag

  • Cool I can learn how to put the sword away! That's what this guy should do permanently.

  • the sword is the size of my dick

  • @airsoftdovani

    Razor thin?

  • @pimpdalyrical the sword is as long as my dick .

    ps nice come back

  • @airsoftdovani

    It was too easy, couldn't pass it up.

    Glad you liked it.

  • @pimpdalyrical ya he points out the part that is your dick at 0:36

  • gay 0:1 - 4:01

  • I still laugh everytime he says "Blood grove"

  • *confrontation

  • Yeah really, either you have it or you dont, and by it i mean natural talent, leave your physics at home, cause when your in a real conforntation, your f=ma is bullshit

  • wow long fuckin comments

  • sounds like he's read all this stuff from a book... coz his pronounciation is shocking and it's not a samurai sword, it's a katana (daisho would be a katana and wakisashi), aka shinken, nihonto or gendaito for modern made japanese sword... same could be rayskin aswell as sharkskin, but other materials were also used... i jus hope ppl don't take these expertvillage videos literally as they're mainly full of crap, there is no substitute for learning with an instructor...

  • :/ If you practice Aikido, then just stick to the bokken mkay? mkay.

  • It's mune....pronounce Mooo Nay. and kissaki. key sah key

  • @ronin2167

    Since you are being pedantic about pronunciation, allow me to correct your correction. In Japanese they do not use English diphtongs, so it's not "moo-NAY", but "mu-neh". And kissaki is pronounced as it is written. Same with mune, really, unless you read it like an English word.

  • To whoever provided the enlgish subtitles: At 2:08 it is not the "scuff" it is the "tsuka." At 2:23 it is not the "ska kashira" but "tsuka kashira." At 2:53 it is not "sammit" it is "same" and is usually made of ray skin. FYI

  • @nivenheim or you can use an IAITO an unsharp sword which is used for normal practice on dojo or for biggeners.

  • Is that a battle-ready Katana? I mean, I would assume so. It's just that I've only ever read about real ones and have only ever seen QVC knock-offs. lol.

  • or one could study fencing with foil, epee, and sabre. Those arts teach use of the point, and proper parry techniques, with a single hand style that gives greater reach than the two hands normally used by Kendo.

  • I don't know how to respond to this because I have no idea what your point is? I don't remember saying you should give a child a weapon? The second paragraph does not apply to anything I have said either. Both your points are a bit exaggerated. I do agree with your last statement wholeheartedly.

  • So sorry if I hurt kendo practitioners feelings. Sometimes one persons truth is another's falsehood. Believe what you like. I'm sure there are kendo folks who are very skilled at what they do. For the most part kendo has become a sport oriented venture. That is fine, but see it for what it is. Batto ho, kenjutsu, iaido, shinkendo are different in their focus.

  • For the Japanese katana they are refereed to as Bo-Hi they remove metal from the blade without compromising the structure of the blade, They are used to make the blade lighter and quicker for faster cuts.

  • this video is only half correct.

  • the handle isnt long enough i wouldnt be able to hold it

  • I dont know what you guys are talking about. His pronounciation is actually pretty good. Not perfect, but better than how a lot of people pronounce it. His knowledge of the Japanese names for the parts of the katana is also quite good. Just because he doesnt mention the sword being used in other styles does not mean he is saying the katana is only used in Aikido or that it was only for Aikido. The only weird thing about this video is that his handgaurd seems a bit loose.

  • his pronunciation of japanese words are HORRIBLE.

  • Agreed cypresspeter2008

  • It seems to me that Aikido just steals a bunch of techniques from other martial arts and lays claim to them, mixing them with it's BS grapples.

    It takes sword techniques from kenjutsu, staff techniques from jojutsu...what next?

    It's a martial art that teaches you how to be inferior no matter what weapon you use.

  • I'm curious what martial arts do you study and for how long have you studied them?

  • Kendo, since I was 9 so 8 years. Jodo for 1 year.

    This guy's aikido is probabley better than my kendo, but my swordsmanship is far better than his...FAR better.

    OK, want a breakdown? watch all of his other videos in one he fights an invisible enemy from a starting seated position, I've left a comment there.

  • It is good that you train in something. Although I have to be honest. Aikido does not make one an expert swordsman, but neither does kendo. If you want to call yourself a swordsman you should probably study an art that deals with SWORDS, not shinai, not bokken and not with full bogu. Sorry to burst your bubble.

  • @AIKILV

    Kendo's kata can be preformed with a metal blade and in our dojo we often do (unsharpened of course) And our sensei thought it was a good idea to teach us footwork, posture and strikes for kenjutsu to help our understanding of how kendo was derived from it. Kendo practitioners are called "kenshi" for a reason, they ARE swordsmen.

  • @ihaterobbie123

    Kendo practitioners are called kendo-ka. They are not swordsmen by virtue of practicing Kendo. Kenjutsu practitioners are much closer to kenshi than kendo-ka, as Kenjutsu are the actual sword techniques, and Kendo is a sport that uses shinai far more often than iaito or katana, and a shinai is not a very good approximation to a sword. Also, Kendo has very strict rules and doesn't even employ grappling anymore. Olympic fencers are just as much "swordsmen" as kendo-ka.

  • @Gilmaris I've also done fancing and in that case the swords are much closer a representation.

    Also, kendo practitioners can be called either kendoka or kenshi and we train in actual fights. Nobody is a fighter by virtue of the art they follow, it's by their determination to the art.

    Also, you act as if "kenshi" is an unattainable title and I would also like to point out that you know nothing about the shinai and the concepts under which it was shaped, it IS a realistic training tool.

  • @ihaterobbie123

    Actually, I'm not the one "acting" anything about kenshi title. You were the one who implied that kendo-ka were "REAL" swordsmen, and implied that THEY are called "kenshi" above all others. Which is simply not the case, and that is what I reacted to. Kendo is great for teaching timing, distance, follow-through and all that good combatty-stuff, but Kendo alone does not teach you the sword. To become familiar with the sword, it's either Kenjutsu or Iai.

  • @Gilmaris Sure, because YOU'RE the one that's been to japan and YOU'RE the one that's attended seminars there. Most people I met who asked why I visited upon learning that I did kendo used kendoka or kenshi to describe me.

    If you're unfamiliar with kendo (heh) then we do something called kata where we use bokken (or, if you want to buy one an unsharpened sword) in which we practice every stance, cut (depending on the teacher) and movement of kenjutsu.

    PS. Iai is almost useless, I've tried it.

  • @ihaterobbie123

    "Iai is almost useless, I've tried it"

    That says a lot about you, right there. I am going to think the better of you and think the reason you said that was because I am an iaido-ka and it was just a childish retort (which also contradict fundamental premises you yourself have presented earlier). You know the actual sword-work you do with iaito in Kendo? That's Iai. If you, as a kendo-ka of 7-8 years, do not see how Iai can help your Kendo, then I am at a loss for words.

  • @Gilmaris I said Iai is almost useless, the only help it provides is the same stuff found in any other form of kenjutsu, except the rest of it's useless, provided kendo is preformed at somewhere other than a tea ceremony. The fact is that the best way to practice "kendo no kata" is to preform it, but overhead blocks, noto and long drawn out slashes are useless in kendo.

    Iai is an art with a very narrow scope, the need for kendoka to learn how to handle a real sword can be satisfied more easily.

  • @ihaterobbie123

    You say useless in Kendo. Why useless in Kendo? Because Kendo doesn't use it? Then the limitation is on Kendo, no?

    And like I said, everything you do with iaito in Kendo IS Iai. And the more you do it, the better. Iai teaches you how to hold the sword, how to cut, it teaches you how the sword actually handles. More than that, Iai teaches MIND, to a far greater extent than Kendo.

  • There is a reason why Kendo is typically combined with Iaido. Without it, Kendo is a stickfighting sport. Just because you personally didn't get anything out of it (how long did you practice?), doesn't mean it's useless. You even upheld its virtues to the extent that it is used in your dojo!

  • As for "understanding nothing about shinai", if you really think that the shinai is a good representation of the katana, then I have no choice but to conclude that you know nothing about the katana. The shinai does not give you any sense of edge alignment, nor sori, nor weight or balance. nor te no uchi. The tsuka of most shinai is circular in cross section, giving a wrong feel. Most shinai have also much too long a tsuka compared to swords historically used in most koryu.

  • @Gilmaris OK, big misunderstanding here, you didn't hear what I said, only what you wanted to hear.

    1. I said it taught the fundamentals of combat.

    2. I said the swing was the same weight, due to the inertia of the shinai I'm actually right.

    3. Have you ever looked at a shinai? See that string? Don't hit with that side...there, edge alignment. If you're talking about the edge shape, it's a teaching mechanism. Because the edge hits you "sooner" than a normal katana you initiate blocking sooner.

  • @ihaterobbie123

    Robbie-me-boy, there's more to edge alignment than simply hitting with the edge. That string on the mune of your shinai only helps you to know where your edge is: it does not actually help your edge alignment at all. Upon impact, is the force from your hands in an EXACT linear direction from spine to edge? This is something you cannot know with shinai, not even with bokken. With iaito you get an indication from the sound it makes, but even then... (cont.)

  • (cont.) ...even then you won't know if your blade alignment would be consistent through a target without doing some actual target practice. Swords have been broken from bad sword alignment. Even Bugei's Big Tony, a rather experienced chap, managed to snap a blade during tameshigiri, because his blade got stuck and his technique was simply very good, not perfect (hira-zukuri blades are very unforgiving in that regard, having no shinogi).

  • @ihaterobbie123

    Also, you can explain what you mean by a cut having "weight". Is it force you mean? F=mv^2? In which case, you'll see from the equation that the mass of the stick (and the wielder, for that matter) matters. I guarantee you you can strike harder with a bokken. But this can't be what you mean, surely?

    Furthermore, I never said Kendo didn't teach the fundamentals of combat. I said Kendo in and of itself doesn't teach the fundamentals of SWORD combat.

  • @Gilmaris No, you thought I said the shinai was realistic to the katana, it isn't, what I said was it teaches the findamentals of combat (meaning sword combat but hey, I have to spell it out)

    For example, when it thickens near the tsuba, importance of centre.

    Yes I do mean force and no I'm not impressed with 12 year old physics because the force in this case is decided by the inertia (dynamics of mass in relation to distance) not just mass.

    PS. F=ma and Ek=(1/2)mv^2...seems you forgot.

  • @ihaterobbie123

    Well yes, it has been 13 years since high school physics, so I'll concede on that point. But you'll see mass is an even more significant factor in the F=ma equation. You can cause nasty bruises with a shinai, but it's lighter, and flexes against the cut, which is why I like shinai for full contact sparring. If you have sparred full contact with hickori sticks you'll love the difference.

  • But anyway, my point was that the shinai doesn't handle like a katana, which is why it is pointless to use shinai for anything other than sparring. You could for pell practice, I suppose, but here a bokken or an actual sword would be better.

  • @Gilmaris I'll have to try with hickori, never experienced it, might teach me something.

    I wasn't saying that f=ma had everything to do with the swing force, I was just correcting your equasion (which, now finished with school I'd love to forget also). All I'm trying to say with all of this is that, from personal experience and anecdotes from others, after swinging around a shinai/bokken for a while you develop a sence of familiarity with a real katana and it's use (especially through the kata).

  • @ihaterobbie123

    Any stick will give you some familiarity with a sword. Even jodo has many techniques similar to swordwork. But like I said, the shinai is a better approximation of the straight longsword than the curved katana. Even though the curve is very slight, I can *feel* the difference, even though it doesn't affect my technique much. Mostly in one-handed thrusts, I think.

  • /watch?v=us909E0qf-Q&feature=r­elated

    there it is, aren't I nice.

  • @ihaterobbie123 - I agree with you. I have studied aikido for 19 years and katori shinto ryu for 4 years. I do not think aikido's sword work is meant to be kenjutsu. But Ueshiba did study kashima shinto ryu so sword work influenced the development of aikido. I believe aikido sword work is a tool to study aikido not to study the sword. Much like one uses spellcheck to write a paper. Aikidoka are fooling themselves if they think aikido teaches swordsmanship. Finally, why do you hate robbie?

  • @bushin64

    Ah, my name, it's just an in-joke with my friend (coincidentally he's Robbie). No malice is meant by it =]

  • Ah =)