When Salman Rushdie was in hiding, he suddenly announced that he had embraced Islam. Shortly afterward, he renounced his sudden profession of faith. Was that moral courage?
muslims claim the rest of humanity know that muhammed is the messanger of God and chose to ignore.what a bunch of lunatics.a paedophile bootlegs the bible and torah and stupid normads believe that this criminal is a prophet.its just goes to show that at the heart os islam is a psychophant who realy wants the rest of humanity in misery.
Multiculturalism has not failed, islam is failing and refusing to be multicultural. The Welsh, the Scottish, the Irish, the English, the Scandinavians, the Indians, other Europeans, the Russians, and any other cultural can and are living peacefully in the UK, except islamists who want to bring us all down on our knees.
go to the true essence of Islam?? Like back to Muhammud when he goes around waging wars and murdering infidels?? that Islam? Ishrad Manji is an intellectual who cannot give up her baby blanket and it is such a pity.
I can't help thinking that Irshad Manji's pronunciation, tone, and manner of speaking rather sounds as though she were talking to a Sesame Street character!
I have utmost respect for her though, she is obviously a brave woman. Salman Rushdie is absolutely riveting to listen to. Extremely interesting conversation!
What he said about the hindu gods and godessess is very much true . I am not sure what culture the bajrang dals and Shiv Sainiks are defending . The culture they are defending has been adulterated by 700 years of Islamic Rule and 200 years of Christian rule !!! .
Truth about Islam is can never changed....Quran is still same many people tried to change it they could not because Quran is the word of Allah....Manji can only dream of changing Allah's words.....Reforms can be used for other religions like chistianity,hinduism, budhism because they are not genuine religions....Islam was genuine religion from begining to the end....
I am all for freedom of speech, but that does not mean that I have to like anything that comes out from people who ciritize religion. For example, I find rushdie and manji quite boring and soul less. I didn't like rushdie's books because they are actually really boring and if nobody was offended by them then they would not have sold any copies.
I hope you guys know that she doesn't believe half what she says but is looking to get the money in your pocket and your time which can be better used
Feer is problematic, in that reason does not assuage it. People remember the riots over cartoons. People remember Theo van Gogh and Daniel Pearl, and Nick Berg, and...
People have an aversion to being threatened, and certainly to being murdered. People also have an aversion to being labelled racists. Such a label can ruin your social life, regardless of whether it is true or not. It is difficult to be courageous in these times. The price paid for courage is steep. Still steeper for fear.
she confuses me here, I really don't understand what exactly her stance is in all this.
Salman keeps making some rather extreme assumptions and she is not questioning/debating any of it. Rather contradictory to some of her earlier messages.
One question that I keep thinking is, what evidence does Salman base some of these ideas which he keeps flaunting as fact e.g. The satanic versus which Manji mentions.
One thing that really gets under my skin is inappropriate use of baseless theories
The greatest infliction that Satan can give to the world is Satanic thought. Even that can NOT be Unthought. The pair of these Pseudo Scholars are actually confusing the innocent people who are more likely to be impressed with their story telling than the truth behind them.
people like irshad manji and salman rushdie have sold thier ego, respect and personalities for money. why they selected america to settle they should have selected countries in africa or oceana. i think irshad manji as mentioned in websites is Shemale at a time both a male and a female can be wife and husband at the same time as evident from irshad manji appearance name and accent. they just need money so have sold their ID and personality. do engage with such people.
who told you, that u r a muslim...perhaps just by name..Irshad...do u offer namaz 5 times and read Quran everyday by understanding it in right light..i hope u dont do it......its amazing to me, but ur appearance does'nt look like a true muslim...please dont make a mockery of islam and our beloved prophet Mohammad (SAW)...have knowledge, not show ur body and glamer to non-mehram men...read Quran..
@halneufmille I SWEAR 2GOD YOU HAVE NOT EVEN OPEN THE BOOK RUSHDIE HAS WRITEN , FOR YOU WILL NOT LIKE HIM IF U DID. HE DOES NOT ONLY ILL SPEAK ABOUT ISLAM ,. U PEOPLE U LIKE EVERY1 WHO SPEAKS BAD ABOUT ISLAM WITHOUT EVEN CHECKING THIER BACK GROUND BUT U KNOW WHAT ISLAM WILL PREVAIL AND THAT WHATS INEVITABLE . SAY WHAT EVER U WAN, BUT ISLAM IS STILL GROWING AND NOW ITS THE LARGEST RELIGION OUT THIER. U2 WILL WISH ONE DAY U WHERE MUSLIM BUT IT WILL BE 2LATE 4U 2THINK ABOUT THAT.
@Astrid270718 Absolutely not. Is she killing, raping, mudering, because of her lesbianism? A persons sexuality, like a persons skin color, does not make them a bad person.
@AfghDude You're from Afghanistan, that alone tells me you should do us all a favour and kill yourself. You're of absolutely no value to the rest of humanity other than a giant waste of resources. Please, I beg of you, kill yourself.
@kawaiigardiner You can not be honest with this hateful comment...If you are,I am ashamed of being white European!!!I am not a muslim,I am a Christian,but I never want a person from any islamic country dead!All of us are valuable and equal!
@kawaiigardiner This is an official side where all of us have possibillity to leave a note in the dreedom to speach,but we should not mock each other and be racistic!
Your note to AfghDude was very mean.He did not ask to be born as an afghan! That he is from Afghanistan does not automatically mahe him a bad person.There are angels and devils wherever you go.You wrote:"You`re from Afghanistan,that ALONE trlls me that you should do us all a favour and kill yourself."That is MEAN!!!
@kittycatcarley Excuse me but AfghDude made not only blatantly anti-gay comments he wishes them dead - so please, tell me how my post was an over reaction to his bigoted hated filled post? Btw, I am gay and I do get pissed off with people trying to shrug off the death of 6,000 gays so far at the hands of the Muslims in the middle east.
@kawaiigardiner I'm bisexual, why does it matter? Telling people to kill themselves just shows them how ignorant you are and how hateful you are and gives them the wrong impression. Hating Afghanis doesn't make you a defender of your orientation, it makes you an asshole because they can't help the way they were raised. He genuinely believes that being gay is wrong, but that belief can change. Just not if you tell him to kill himself, then he'll really start seeing gay people as evil and haters.
@kawaiigardiner Just trying to be helpful. If someone told you to kill yourself because you are gay and therefore don't deserve to live (in their wretched opinion), how would you feel about them? He may deserve harsh treatment, but isn't convincing someone to your side more rewarding than if they were dead?
@AfghDude Why is it a shame that she calls herself a muslim?How will she bre punished?Will she be stoned to death like the gay man in Somalia did?Why should she be punished?Tell me what the Quaran says and also were.
Salman rushdie called Americans motherfucking,British sisterfucking and all white women bitch.He also abused with hideous slangs many countries and respectful American and English leaders and women.He used many more slangs for the western world and insulted many religious diets of Hinduism and respectful women, leaders and angels of Christianity and Islam in this book "Satanic Verses".The word 'FUCK' appears 63 times,'BITCH' 10 times and BASTARD 49 times.Please read the book Satanic Verses.
@grsdfv What the fuck are you talking about? Have you even read the Satanic Verses? I have. It doesn't insult anyone. Learn how to read and write, read the book yourself and then stop talking like an imbecile.
Country doesnt belong to the person,rather the person belongs to the country.Christians love to live their life according to Bible,Hindu according to Veda and Muslims to Quran.Everyone has the right to practice their own religion in USA,unlike many other countries.And this is what makes this country so great and different from other countries.Everyone has the LIBERTY and RIGHT.
Salman rushdie called Americans motherfucking,British sisterfucking and all white women bitch.He also abused with hideous slangs many countries and respectful American and English leaders and women.He used many more slangs for the western world and insulted many religious diets of Hinduism and respectful women, leaders and angels of Christianity and Islam in this book "Satanic Verses".The word 'FUCK' appears 63 times,'BITCH' 10 times and BASTARD 49 times.Please read the book Satanic Verses
people LIKE Wafa sultan quotes facts from anti Islamic historians,who have alleged artificial facts to malign ISLAM.Christians follow bible likewise,Muslims follow Quran which is based on 23 years of the prophetic life of Prophet Muhammad.If anyone quotes gospel of Barnabas it wont be valid for Christians,similarly anything other? then Quran isnt valid for Muslims.Whatever Wafa is alleging against Prophet Muhammad rape,murder etc and lies about Quran,point it out from Quran if U R TRUTHFUL
at first muslims were aked to keep patience against torture at macca.then people drived muslims away from their home for believing in one God.then muslims went to madina.And the people of macca gathered reenforcement to Attack muslims,so God says to them dont be affraid of them,defend ur selfs and kill them in the battle field where evr u find them but if they seek peace escort them to a place of safety so that they could here the word of God, these r the people who knows not
people LIKE Wafa sultan quotes facts from anti Islamic historians,who have alleged artificial facts to malign ISLAM.Christians follow bible likewise,Muslims follow Quran which is based on 23 years of the prophetic life of Prophet Muhammad.If anyone quotes gospel of Barnabas it wont be valid for Christians,similarly anything other then Quran isnt valid for Muslims.Whatever Wafa is alleging against Prophet Muhammad rape,murder etc and lies about Quran,point it out from Quran if U R TRUTHFUL
Wafa sultan is quoting facts from anti Islamic historians,who have alleged artificial facts to malign ISLAM.Christians follow bible likewise,Muslims follow Quran which is based on 23 years of the prophetic life of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).If anyone quotes gospel of Barnabas it wont be valid for Christians,similarly anything other then Quran isnt valid for Muslims.Whatever Wafa is alleging against Prophet Muhammad(pduh) rape,murder etc and lies about Quran,point it out from Quran if she is truthful
For those who havent read Quran,it forbids rape and the punishment is stoned to death,forbids to inherit women against their will or treat them harshly(4:19).It forbids murder even if the person is criminal,its for the authority to decide the verdict.Quran never contradicts himself even though it took 23 years to reveal{4:82 Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than ALLAH(THE GOD,just ONE without a second),they would surely have found therein much contradictions}
Are you too stupid to realize that Muhammed kept changing his revelations? Even the Saudi's talk about how first violence was banned, then permitted and then made an obligation. The son of the leader of Hamas just converted to Christianity because he talked about all the inconsistencies in Islam.
The Prophet had the husband of the Jewess Raihana Bint Amr hacked to pieces before her very eyes, hours after he had murdered her father. No doubt this was the Prophet's perverted version of a wedding present, because after these atrocities he raped the mortified girl and tried to force her to convert to Islam.
Poor girl must have had Stockholm syndrome after that.
@buddhistflower u r just deceived by some very cleaver people who brianwashed u so well that u cant see that the boy converted for US visa and sucking up to people for sympathy, money and fame.
@buddhistflower numbers 5:11-31 if a husband has feeling of jealousy or presume women of lewdness, he can take her to the high priest and the priest will take of her head cover and make her drink bitter water mix with the dust of the alter floor(tabernacle) and ink of the paper on which the priest will write curse for her
@buddhistflower And she can only say Ameen every time she is cursed. If she is truely guilty of accusations her belly will swell and her thigh will rot but if not nothing will happen. The man shall be guilt free of the iniquity and women shell bear her iniquity.(trial by ordeal)
@buddhistflower at first muslims were aked to keep patience against torture at macca then people drive muslims away from their home for believing in one God.the muslims went to madina.And the people of macca gathered reenforcement to Attack muslims,so God says to them dont be affraid of them,defend ur selfs and kill them in the battle field where evr u find them but if they seek peace escort them to a place of safety so that they could here the word of God, these r the people who knows not
When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)
@makorpoka Most important verse that people like u never shows 6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge
@buddhistflower why r u Qouting and jumping. 9:1 to 2. 1. A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:-
2. Go ye, then, for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him.
@buddhistflower 5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Pagans - so Buddhists, Hindus, and every other religion not of "the book" should anticipate being attacked killed unless they obey a pack of invading Muslims?
@buddhistflower pagan there was the people of macca who were attacking them to erase from the earth. u r yet lying have u got no shame. who were invading
@buddhistflower at first muslims were aked to keep patience against torture at macca.then people drived muslims away from their home for believing in one God.then muslims went to madina.And the people of macca gathered reenforcement to Attack muslims,so God says to them dont be affraid of them,defend ur selfs and kill them in the battle field where evr u find them but if they seek peace escort them to a place of safety so that they could here the word of God, these r the people who knows not
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to theunbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks toenrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216) (so much for your peace claim -- Hmm, could it be a contradiction?)
Was Hamas guy really bribed? Hardly,
Koran: "Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-) Bible - Love your enemy as yourself.
@buddhistflower bible i dont want to malign any religion but just to let u know LU 14:26 If any man cometh unto me, and HATEth not his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Not sure, I'm not Christian but that sounds like a reference to the sacrificial son and Abraham -- you have to be willing to sacrifice your family and everything - but God then stepped in and didn't make him kill his son. Jesus spoke a lot in metaphors (parables) and often most things he said were not literal.
@buddhistflower numbers 5:11-31 if a husband has feeling of jealousy or presume women of lewdness, he can take her to the high priest and the priest will take of her head cover and make her drink bitter water mix with the dust of the alter floor(tabernacle) and ink of the paper on which the priest will write curse for her. And she can only say Ameen every time she is cursed.
@makorpoka If she is truely guilty of accusations her belly will swell and her thigh will rot but if not nothing will happen. The man shall be guilt free of the iniquity and women shell bear her iniquity.(trial by ordeal)
Makorpoka, do you get jealous of your husband's other wives because Koran says "Try as you may, you cannot treat all your wives impartially." (Surah 4:126-)
You call me intolerant hmm, the Koran says.... "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
@buddhistflower 3. And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.
@buddhistflower 4. (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.
@buddhistflower people like u goes to anti islamic sites and picks up matterials which r fabricated, corrupted and try to act very cleaver. u think to deceive people, u r only deceiving ur self. U r keeping ur self ignorant
@buddhistflower islam is the only religion that limits the ammout of marriages. in other religion the amount is unlimited.4:3. If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans,Marry women of your choice,Two or three or four;but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or that your right hands possess,that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
So let me see if I understand correctly -- Allah limits the number of marriages to 4, and his prophet Muhammed contradicts Allah and the Koran by taking on more than four wives and having other women he wants to have sex with as concubines? And hacking a woman's husband up infront of her and then wanting to marry her is normal, how?
It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision Surah 33:36 --
doesn't Muhammed marrying more than 4 contraditct that?
@buddhistflower a person can marry many time but can keep for wife at a time. and the filth u just said did u find it in Quran nooooo but facts from anti Islamic historians,who have alleged artificial facts to malign ISLAM
Khadijah, Sawdah, Aishah, Hafsah, Zaynab, Umm Salamah, Zaynab, Juwariyah, Mariyah, Safyyah, Umm Habeeba, and Maymunah --- Actually, I got that quote when the Egyptian scholar Dr. Attya was issuing a fatwah that women had to breastfeed adult men inorder to avoid punishment for being in the same room with unrelated males. I guess it's what Muhammed said, and Aysha encouraged it because it allowed her to be in the same room with unrelated males, especially after the Muhammed died.
@buddhistflower now u r guessing and maligning islam. what ever statement u make either qoute it from Quran or get lost. any tom dick or harry will say something and it becomes reality. is that what u believe. like i said u r just r brainwashed very well with forged artificial facts.u heard things here and there and now u have taken a side without varifying. those who rejects the truth and follows falsehood,its the same whether u warn them or not.Liars cant never take the side of truth.
@buddhistflower but have u read ur own bible, 2samuel 13:5to14 brother raping sister.david had 700 wives and 300 concuvines and his elder son had sex with them 2 samuels 16:22. for more filth see leviticus 18:8-18,20:11-14and17-21. i am not mentions the titles cause i dont want to offend christians. by the way i spent $40 for kjb bible and the things i am qouting i have read my self unlike u qouting from anti islamic sites
@makorpoka numbers 27:8 women inherit no property if she has brother.numbers 36:6 if women have no brother she gets the properties but then she can only marry in her own tribe
numbers 30:6,14 the witness or vow of women can be cancel by the witness or vow of men.
@buddhistflower even after limiting the amout of marriage up to 4 ALLAH says its difficult to do jutice when u have more than 1 wifes and encouraging to marry only once 4:129 You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire,so do not incline too much to one of them so as to leave the other hanging.And if you do justice,and do all that is right and fear Allâh by keeping away from all that is wrong, then Allâh is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful
@buddhistflower by the way 4:126 And to Allâh belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allâh is Ever Encompassing all things. u must have made a typo of 129 to 126
And people like Wafa Sultan are trying to misguide people, creating dispute and encouraging people to take away the RIGHT and LIBERTY from one another, and get themselves famous in the process. Be aware of such hypocrites and enemy of society, they dont want good for any
Country doesnt belong to the person,rather the person belongs to the country.Christians love to live their life according to Bible,Hindu according to Veda and Muslims to Quran.Everyone has the right to practice their own religion in USA,unlike many other countries.And this is what makes this country so great and different from other countries.Everyone has the LIBERTY and RIGHT
Salman rushdie called Americans motherfucking,British sisterfucking and all white women bitch.He also abused with hideous slangs many countries and respectful American and English leaders and women.He used many more slangs for the western world and insulted many religious diets of Hinduism and respectful women, leaders and angels of Christianity and Islam in this book "Satanic Verses.The word 'FUCK' appears 63 times,'BITCH' 10 times and BASTARD 49 times.Please read the book Satanic Verses
yeah, but he didn't kill his daughter for not wearing a headscarf, or bury her alive for talking to boys, force women to wear burquas, gang rape in the name of Allah, hack off limbs, mutlate female genitals or become a suicide bomber - you can't say that about many muslims. Americans can debate name calling and we argue with him in a debate, we didnt issue a fatwah to kill him. I guess Muslims don't learn the poem - sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me.
@buddhistflower what an evil propaganda. u went to some anti islamic site and qouting there forged artificial facts. Even if we consider this true for the sake of argument, hitler kill 6 million jews now can i hold resposible all christians or christianity for that, no. IRA in uk , Benito Mussolini , mafia and dont even ask india. people like u takes the blacksheep to malign the community
Google away, there are thousands of stories telling the same thing about Islam.
Hitler stopped killing Jews, Muslims haven't before or after Hitler, and Muhammed says to continue killing them even when they hide behind trees. Arafat's uncle, the Grand Mufiti told Hitler to kill the Jews and gave hitler the idea for the yellow star, which had been used by Muslims before. And Sudanese and, Armenian genocide -- that's not Islamic now?
And just because other people are bad, doesn't make Muhammed any less bad. If one man murders, it doesn't change the fact he is a murderer if someone else murders, just means they are both murderers. But notice who you have to name to compare an equal - evil men. Why do I condemn the religion, easy cause of the leader of it, I will condemn any bad leader who asks people to commit rape, murder and pedophilia. The founder was evil, therefore the religion is evil.
@buddhistflower Hitler killed at least 6000000 jews,and if he would not have been stopped,I am sure he would have continued.Otherwise I agree with you.Muslims are not killing only jews,but nonmuslims as well.It is written in Sura 9:6
whooaa...budhist ...u really need to read ur history book once agin...britain created Pakistan?? lol.. n ovcourse jews n christians lived dere before ,dats cuz islam came aftr dese religions (Duhh!)
n GirlInColour(lol)..Muhammad (S.A.W) neva married a5 yr old!! y do u guys rite nonsense?i really request u 2 first atleast CONFIRM n den spread ur nonsense..
And if v muslims are nt writing or speaking against any religion,v expect da same ...
Britain's Parliament passed in July 1947 the Indian Independence Act, ordering the demarcation of the dominions of India and Pakistan by midnight of Aug. 14-15, 1947,
Asiha was 6 years old when Muhammed would "thigh" her, nine when they married and had sex with her -- it's in the Koran You are ignorant if you think Muslims are not speaking against any religion- tell that to a Hindu or a Copt, or Christians in Lebannon, or Jews, or Buddhists in Afghanistan/Maylasia
Sura 65 on rules for divorce. Notice below that you can divorce a woman who hasn't menstruated yet ("not had their courses").
Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
@buddhistflower if u r hindu u dont have trouble to believe that girl can born from fire, dropadi.and if u r christian u dont have trouble to take prophet Lot as true prophet who commited incest with his 2 daughter while he was drunk according to bible but u r having trouble with the age of mother Aisha, who was a miracle child. who grow really fast for her age and had magnificent intelligence. which is easy to digest the incest or blood and flesh comingout of fire or a child who was overgrowth
OMG - you freaking believe that? OK, back then Islam didn't allow anyone but girls to play with dolls and toys, after he had sex with her, she would go play with her dolls. You have many leaders who use this to justify child brides today under Islamic law -- girls can marry at 9 years old cause Aisha did. Or are you saying the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia doesn't know Islamic law, cause I'm repeating what he says. Actually, read your goofy ass books and laws, then get back to me.
What is easy for me to believe is that Muhammed was no different from a psychopath we had in Wacco Texas called David Koresh, who acted just like your prophet -- Muhammed perveted the Bible and rewrote it, same with Koresh, only Muhammed called it the Koran. And don't say he couldn't read, the fucker could hear and had a scribe, people can repeat stories they hear and change them.
Aisha was smart, she remarked it was funny that every time allah spoke it seemd to be favorable to another way Muhammed wanted to manipulate a situation, too bad Muhammed beat her for being curious. Muhammad led 27 military campaigns against innocent villages and caravans & planned 38 others
Sorry if you get offended by the actions and words of your prophet.
I am the prophet that laughs when killing my enemies. (Hadith)
@buddhistflower people like u dont want the good of any. all u want to do is create misunderstand among the people and create mischief but u act as if u r the peace maker where u have allergy with peace. constantly attacking people to enrage them and create dispute. the day people of all society will realize the criminals like u there will be no mischief or bloodshed on land
One of the leaders of Hammas who just converted to Christianity just said the same about Muslims -- I speak the truth about what is written in your Koran, about dhimmi status and Sharia laws. I'm not hindu so, no I don't burn women. I know Copts, Assyrians, Hindus,Bahais Africans, and people all over the world same story about Islam. Not even Muslims treat other Muslims well, look at their Sharia laws, produces Taliban and oppressive regimes, Shia kills Sunni, Whabbi kills everyone but blame us.
I do not want mischief or bloodshed, on the contrary sweetie, your Koran calls for chaos and war to bring back the 12th Imam Mahndi -- who the president of Iran was babbling about at the UN, and same with Osama -- they are waging Jihad to bring chaos and mischief according to the Koran as some kind of prophecy they want to happen.
This woman is sick in her head ..she totally have lost her identity but I am not the one who has the right to say whether she is muslim or salman is muslim or not .. he doesn't quite make clear where is form Iran or Pakistan why he is talking about pakistan which is not true
the real cry is on yaumul qiyama... the kafir and the rest will die one day and then u will know. no muslim feels bad that the kafir left the deen its ur own loss, however the muminoon will defend their religion. and this kafir went hiding in the western lands because it knows what would have happened had it been in its land. cowards... he will die just like everyone else on here
u do not know anything. stop this jahiliya. a'uthu billah... you need some education, its no use urguing with you since you r only looking for fault and not wanting to know. u'r blinded by ur hate and ignorance whence you will not understand. and everything u said about the rasul (peace be upon him) is false. and yes the qur'an is the truth. we believe as well in the gospel that was given to jesus peace be upon him, but not the one that is of today because of man corrupted.
and yet the hadith and sunna is also man corrupted since its from mouth to mouth. Its like playing telephone game. none of the word will be exactly the same but what we heard and understand.
only the kafiroon will mourn the death of rushdie and his likes. i do not debate with people who do not have enough knowlegde about islam. to try to reform anything in islam is kufr because u r saying that what was brought to us by God was not good n try to change the law haram. in islam we respect everything that our Rabb swt brought to us and insulting,mocking anything tha He swt brought is an act of kufr and rushdie is a kafir and if he was in a land of shariah he would be in sakaratul mawt.
The Koran was not brought to you by God. Muhammed plagerized the Bible, wrote himself in and created a cult of personality. He was jealous of the jews and when he couldn't have what they did, he stole what he could and ordered to kill.
omg, finally a real Muslim-- will you go explain this to makorpoka that it is in the Koran to kill non-believers and those who offend islam? You know the story of the cow, and especially Jews and Christians being the descendants of monkeys and swine and explain Muslims do not want peace with non-Muslims because the world is either Al Haram or Al Islam and it is right to destroy anything unislamic cause it's in the Koran!!!
THIS KAFIR THINKS ITS GOING TO LIVE FOREVER. the day will come when rushdie will die and the earth will not mourn and that manji who thinks she can change islam. to hell with ur evil
if there is hope, it is in people like rushdie and manji, two of the bravest people in the world. you think the world will not mourn? when they die, it will be a little less good in the world.
why is she evil? because she stands up against the blatent racism and sexism in the koran, something that should have been done LONG AGO.
also, why do you hate rushdie? have you ever read his book? i have. THERE IS NOTHING BOUT ISLAM IN IT!!!
reply if u like. i'm up for a debate if you can handle it.
hey better we get it all out in a chat room and debate, even with the name calling, it's better than us killing each other and at least we get to hear the other side and know why they are pissed off even if we don't agree.
@buddhistflower i totally agree with u, this way many of the contradiction will be clarified well and it will be easier. first time u said something logical and not attacking anyone. u have my respect for that
I'm only really becoming aware of him in literally the past week or so. I've begun reading 'Midnight's Children' and I have to say that purely as a storyteller he's already got my vote. I always read for story to first time around and for subtext and message the second time, and I think he's great (I intend to leave 'The Satanic Verses' I've read the rest).
Though it is true that the scholars of Islam do not preach original sin, as indicated by Mr. Rushdie but the Islamic prophet does point to original sin in the Hadith of Bokhari. Watch video by Christthebridge " A Challenge to al to change the Islam.
Wow, two great human beings coming together. I am proud of the fact that they have Indian heritage. But above of all, they speak their minds out and speak for many people who dont have a voice....
Wow... such thought provoking conversations. Both Salman and Irshad are such clear thinkers. No bullcrap attached. I hope salman writes many more Midnights children and Salimar.
Some of the comments on this video are ridiculous, not all but some. I was hoping for some intellectual dialogue and informed opinions but then I look at Machhour1 and Aschahin. If you have something to argue, please do it in an intellectual manner instead of just spewing hatred and bias everywhere? thankyou!
the palestinians had turned down statehood twice before. British and French mandates also formed the countries of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Israel out of the old ottoman empire. they also created pakistan. the thing is muslims don't want anyone else to exist in those countries, never mind that jews and christians lived in those areas long before Islam ever existed.
When Salman Rushdie was in hiding, he suddenly announced that he had embraced Islam. Shortly afterward, he renounced his sudden profession of faith. Was that moral courage?
gulshabbo 2 months ago
@gulshabbo Would you have done better under the circumstances?
WLDB 3 weeks ago
islam sucks mohammed sucks even more.i cant believe grown women and men will beleieve in a paedophile.what a waste
jayudoka 2 months ago
muslims claim the rest of humanity know that muhammed is the messanger of God and chose to ignore.what a bunch of lunatics.a paedophile bootlegs the bible and torah and stupid normads believe that this criminal is a prophet.its just goes to show that at the heart os islam is a psychophant who realy wants the rest of humanity in misery.
jayudoka 2 months ago
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Multiculturalism has not failed, islam is failing and refusing to be multicultural. The Welsh, the Scottish, the Irish, the English, the Scandinavians, the Indians, other Europeans, the Russians, and any other cultural can and are living peacefully in the UK, except islamists who want to bring us all down on our knees.
LordofBarons 6 months ago
go to the true essence of Islam?? Like back to Muhammud when he goes around waging wars and murdering infidels?? that Islam? Ishrad Manji is an intellectual who cannot give up her baby blanket and it is such a pity.
russianblueOrDeath 8 months ago
I can't help thinking that Irshad Manji's pronunciation, tone, and manner of speaking rather sounds as though she were talking to a Sesame Street character!
I have utmost respect for her though, she is obviously a brave woman. Salman Rushdie is absolutely riveting to listen to. Extremely interesting conversation!
segfault42 8 months ago
What he said about the hindu gods and godessess is very much true . I am not sure what culture the bajrang dals and Shiv Sainiks are defending . The culture they are defending has been adulterated by 700 years of Islamic Rule and 200 years of Christian rule !!! .
rajhe 9 months ago
Truth about Islam is can never changed....Quran is still same many people tried to change it they could not because Quran is the word of Allah....Manji can only dream of changing Allah's words.....Reforms can be used for other religions like chistianity,hinduism, budhism because they are not genuine religions....Islam was genuine religion from begining to the end....
chalakokhan 9 months ago
@chalakokhan Quran is the word of Mohammed nothing more and nothing less. Come off the brain washing.
dapodokumentary 6 months ago
He laughs like Beavis and Butthead lol.
rooflee 1 year ago 2
The problem with Islam is Islam. It's laughable from beginning to end.
lemmieatit 1 year ago 10
I am all for freedom of speech, but that does not mean that I have to like anything that comes out from people who ciritize religion. For example, I find rushdie and manji quite boring and soul less. I didn't like rushdie's books because they are actually really boring and if nobody was offended by them then they would not have sold any copies.
WalidL 1 year ago
I hope you guys know that she doesn't believe half what she says but is looking to get the money in your pocket and your time which can be better used
ignoranceisbad 1 year ago
Feer is problematic, in that reason does not assuage it. People remember the riots over cartoons. People remember Theo van Gogh and Daniel Pearl, and Nick Berg, and...
People have an aversion to being threatened, and certainly to being murdered. People also have an aversion to being labelled racists. Such a label can ruin your social life, regardless of whether it is true or not. It is difficult to be courageous in these times. The price paid for courage is steep. Still steeper for fear.
koyunbaba73 1 year ago
she confuses me here, I really don't understand what exactly her stance is in all this.
Salman keeps making some rather extreme assumptions and she is not questioning/debating any of it. Rather contradictory to some of her earlier messages.
One question that I keep thinking is, what evidence does Salman base some of these ideas which he keeps flaunting as fact e.g. The satanic versus which Manji mentions.
One thing that really gets under my skin is inappropriate use of baseless theories
sexdetermination 1 year ago
The greatest infliction that Satan can give to the world is Satanic thought. Even that can NOT be Unthought. The pair of these Pseudo Scholars are actually confusing the innocent people who are more likely to be impressed with their story telling than the truth behind them.
JennaSmith987 1 year ago
we need more people like him.
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
i love listening to him talk.
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@kittycatcarley So do I.
Hans021220 1 year ago
people like irshad manji and salman rushdie have sold thier ego, respect and personalities for money. why they selected america to settle they should have selected countries in africa or oceana. i think irshad manji as mentioned in websites is Shemale at a time both a male and a female can be wife and husband at the same time as evident from irshad manji appearance name and accent. they just need money so have sold their ID and personality. do engage with such people.
Shahid8904 1 year ago
who told you, that u r a muslim...perhaps just by name..Irshad...do u offer namaz 5 times and read Quran everyday by understanding it in right light..i hope u dont do it......its amazing to me, but ur appearance does'nt look like a true muslim...please dont make a mockery of islam and our beloved prophet Mohammad (SAW)...have knowledge, not show ur body and glamer to non-mehram men...read Quran..
nadpat05 1 year ago
A masterpiece of intelligence and honesty. Praise to Manji and Rushdie, among the few shining stars in the intellectual darkness of our days.
halneufmille 1 year ago 14
@halneufmille I SWEAR 2GOD YOU HAVE NOT EVEN OPEN THE BOOK RUSHDIE HAS WRITEN , FOR YOU WILL NOT LIKE HIM IF U DID. HE DOES NOT ONLY ILL SPEAK ABOUT ISLAM ,. U PEOPLE U LIKE EVERY1 WHO SPEAKS BAD ABOUT ISLAM WITHOUT EVEN CHECKING THIER BACK GROUND BUT U KNOW WHAT ISLAM WILL PREVAIL AND THAT WHATS INEVITABLE . SAY WHAT EVER U WAN, BUT ISLAM IS STILL GROWING AND NOW ITS THE LARGEST RELIGION OUT THIER. U2 WILL WISH ONE DAY U WHERE MUSLIM BUT IT WILL BE 2LATE 4U 2THINK ABOUT THAT.
82yahya 4 months ago
Very interesting. I never knew all these details about the process.
sulljoh1 1 year ago
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kittycatcarley 1 year ago
SHE ISNT MUSLIM!
AfghDude 1 year ago
How do you know she is not a muslim?
Astrid270718 1 year ago
1 she is lesbian
2 she has sex with other girls
3 she does not pray
4 she thinks the Quran is not perfect
5 and a lot of more reasons.
AfghDude 1 year ago
Ok.But how do you,as a muslim,look at her?How will she be treated after the Coran?
Astrid270718 1 year ago
It's a shame she calls her self a muslim.
She's gay! Come on man!
According to the sharia she will be punished very hard.
AfghDude 1 year ago 2
But does that she is a lesbian making her a bad person?If so,why?
Astrid270718 1 year ago
You know, I don;t want to discuss it.
If she has feelings for other girls she must hide it and NOT practise it.
AfghDude 1 year ago
Ok.I respect that,but I was wondering what the sharia says about persons like her.
Astrid270718 1 year ago
@Astrid270718 Absolutely not. Is she killing, raping, mudering, because of her lesbianism? A persons sexuality, like a persons skin color, does not make them a bad person.
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@kittycatcarley I agree with you.(I`. Astrid 270718.I just had too change my nickname)
Hans021220 1 year ago
@Hans021220 :)
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@AfghDude You're from Afghanistan, that alone tells me you should do us all a favour and kill yourself. You're of absolutely no value to the rest of humanity other than a giant waste of resources. Please, I beg of you, kill yourself.
kawaiigardiner 1 year ago
@kawaiigardiner You can not be honest with this hateful comment...If you are,I am ashamed of being white European!!!I am not a muslim,I am a Christian,but I never want a person from any islamic country dead!All of us are valuable and equal!
Hans021220 1 year ago
@Hans021220 who the hell are you talking to, I never addressed my original post to you.
kawaiigardiner 1 year ago
@kawaiigardiner This is an official side where all of us have possibillity to leave a note in the dreedom to speach,but we should not mock each other and be racistic!
Your note to AfghDude was very mean.He did not ask to be born as an afghan! That he is from Afghanistan does not automatically mahe him a bad person.There are angels and devils wherever you go.You wrote:"You`re from Afghanistan,that ALONE trlls me that you should do us all a favour and kill yourself."That is MEAN!!!
Hans021220 1 year ago
@kawaiigardiner How awful of you to say such a thing. People can change, you know, and get better. :(
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@kittycatcarley Excuse me but AfghDude made not only blatantly anti-gay comments he wishes them dead - so please, tell me how my post was an over reaction to his bigoted hated filled post? Btw, I am gay and I do get pissed off with people trying to shrug off the death of 6,000 gays so far at the hands of the Muslims in the middle east.
kawaiigardiner 1 year ago
@kawaiigardiner I'm bisexual, why does it matter? Telling people to kill themselves just shows them how ignorant you are and how hateful you are and gives them the wrong impression. Hating Afghanis doesn't make you a defender of your orientation, it makes you an asshole because they can't help the way they were raised. He genuinely believes that being gay is wrong, but that belief can change. Just not if you tell him to kill himself, then he'll really start seeing gay people as evil and haters.
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@kawaiigardiner Just trying to be helpful. If someone told you to kill yourself because you are gay and therefore don't deserve to live (in their wretched opinion), how would you feel about them? He may deserve harsh treatment, but isn't convincing someone to your side more rewarding than if they were dead?
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@AfghDude Why is it a shame that she calls herself a muslim?How will she bre punished?Will she be stoned to death like the gay man in Somalia did?Why should she be punished?Tell me what the Quaran says and also were.
Hans021220 1 year ago
Salman rushdie called Americans motherfucking,British sisterfucking and all white women bitch.He also abused with hideous slangs many countries and respectful American and English leaders and women.He used many more slangs for the western world and insulted many religious diets of Hinduism and respectful women, leaders and angels of Christianity and Islam in this book "Satanic Verses".The word 'FUCK' appears 63 times,'BITCH' 10 times and BASTARD 49 times.Please read the book Satanic Verses.
grsdfv 2 years ago
@grsdfv What the fuck are you talking about? Have you even read the Satanic Verses? I have. It doesn't insult anyone. Learn how to read and write, read the book yourself and then stop talking like an imbecile.
simsi1616 1 year ago
Country doesnt belong to the person,rather the person belongs to the country.Christians love to live their life according to Bible,Hindu according to Veda and Muslims to Quran.Everyone has the right to practice their own religion in USA,unlike many other countries.And this is what makes this country so great and different from other countries.Everyone has the LIBERTY and RIGHT.
grsdfv 2 years ago
Salman rushdie called Americans motherfucking,British sisterfucking and all white women bitch.He also abused with hideous slangs many countries and respectful American and English leaders and women.He used many more slangs for the western world and insulted many religious diets of Hinduism and respectful women, leaders and angels of Christianity and Islam in this book "Satanic Verses".The word 'FUCK' appears 63 times,'BITCH' 10 times and BASTARD 49 times.Please read the book Satanic Verses
grsdfv 2 years ago
people LIKE Wafa sultan quotes facts from anti Islamic historians,who have alleged artificial facts to malign ISLAM.Christians follow bible likewise,Muslims follow Quran which is based on 23 years of the prophetic life of Prophet Muhammad.If anyone quotes gospel of Barnabas it wont be valid for Christians,similarly anything other? then Quran isnt valid for Muslims.Whatever Wafa is alleging against Prophet Muhammad rape,murder etc and lies about Quran,point it out from Quran if U R TRUTHFUL
makorpoka 2 years ago
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at first muslims were aked to keep patience against torture at macca.then people drived muslims away from their home for believing in one God.then muslims went to madina.And the people of macca gathered reenforcement to Attack muslims,so God says to them dont be affraid of them,defend ur selfs and kill them in the battle field where evr u find them but if they seek peace escort them to a place of safety so that they could here the word of God, these r the people who knows not
makorpoka 2 years ago
people LIKE Wafa sultan quotes facts from anti Islamic historians,who have alleged artificial facts to malign ISLAM.Christians follow bible likewise,Muslims follow Quran which is based on 23 years of the prophetic life of Prophet Muhammad.If anyone quotes gospel of Barnabas it wont be valid for Christians,similarly anything other then Quran isnt valid for Muslims.Whatever Wafa is alleging against Prophet Muhammad rape,murder etc and lies about Quran,point it out from Quran if U R TRUTHFUL
makorpoka 2 years ago
Wafa sultan is quoting facts from anti Islamic historians,who have alleged artificial facts to malign ISLAM.Christians follow bible likewise,Muslims follow Quran which is based on 23 years of the prophetic life of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).If anyone quotes gospel of Barnabas it wont be valid for Christians,similarly anything other then Quran isnt valid for Muslims.Whatever Wafa is alleging against Prophet Muhammad(pduh) rape,murder etc and lies about Quran,point it out from Quran if she is truthful
makorpoka 2 years ago
Read the Quran see for yourselves the truth and dont fall for hypocrites who quotes out of contexts, with or without the knowledge of background.
makorpoka 2 years ago
For those who havent read Quran,it forbids rape and the punishment is stoned to death,forbids to inherit women against their will or treat them harshly(4:19).It forbids murder even if the person is criminal,its for the authority to decide the verdict.Quran never contradicts himself even though it took 23 years to reveal{4:82 Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than ALLAH(THE GOD,just ONE without a second),they would surely have found therein much contradictions}
makorpoka 2 years ago
Are you too stupid to realize that Muhammed kept changing his revelations? Even the Saudi's talk about how first violence was banned, then permitted and then made an obligation. The son of the leader of Hamas just converted to Christianity because he talked about all the inconsistencies in Islam.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
The Prophet had the husband of the Jewess Raihana Bint Amr hacked to pieces before her very eyes, hours after he had murdered her father. No doubt this was the Prophet's perverted version of a wedding present, because after these atrocities he raped the mortified girl and tried to force her to convert to Islam.
Poor girl must have had Stockholm syndrome after that.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower u r just deceived by some very cleaver people who brianwashed u so well that u cant see that the boy converted for US visa and sucking up to people for sympathy, money and fame.
makorpoka 2 years ago
right, he abanded his family, country, religion all at the cost of death threats for money- I doubt that.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower numbers 5:11-31 if a husband has feeling of jealousy or presume women of lewdness, he can take her to the high priest and the priest will take of her head cover and make her drink bitter water mix with the dust of the alter floor(tabernacle) and ink of the paper on which the priest will write curse for her
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower And she can only say Ameen every time she is cursed. If she is truely guilty of accusations her belly will swell and her thigh will rot but if not nothing will happen. The man shall be guilt free of the iniquity and women shell bear her iniquity.(trial by ordeal)
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower at first muslims were aked to keep patience against torture at macca then people drive muslims away from their home for believing in one God.the muslims went to madina.And the people of macca gathered reenforcement to Attack muslims,so God says to them dont be affraid of them,defend ur selfs and kill them in the battle field where evr u find them but if they seek peace escort them to a place of safety so that they could here the word of God, these r the people who knows not
makorpoka 2 years ago
When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)
buddhistflower 2 years ago
worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find
them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for
them. - 9:5
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower u dont know arabic so dont try to translation. ur r fabricating in the process
makorpoka 2 years ago
@makorpoka Most important verse that people like u never shows 6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower why r u Qouting and jumping. 9:1 to 2. 1. A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:-
2. Go ye, then, for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him.
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower 5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
makorpoka 2 years ago
Pagans - so Buddhists, Hindus, and every other religion not of "the book" should anticipate being attacked killed unless they obey a pack of invading Muslims?
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower pagan there was the people of macca who were attacking them to erase from the earth. u r yet lying have u got no shame. who were invading
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower at first muslims were aked to keep patience against torture at macca.then people drived muslims away from their home for believing in one God.then muslims went to madina.And the people of macca gathered reenforcement to Attack muslims,so God says to them dont be affraid of them,defend ur selfs and kill them in the battle field where evr u find them but if they seek peace escort them to a place of safety so that they could here the word of God, these r the people who knows not
makorpoka 2 years ago
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to theunbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks toenrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216) (so much for your peace claim -- Hmm, could it be a contradiction?)
Was Hamas guy really bribed? Hardly,
Koran: "Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-) Bible - Love your enemy as yourself.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower bible i dont want to malign any religion but just to let u know LU 14:26 If any man cometh unto me, and HATEth not his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
makorpoka 2 years ago
Not sure, I'm not Christian but that sounds like a reference to the sacrificial son and Abraham -- you have to be willing to sacrifice your family and everything - but God then stepped in and didn't make him kill his son. Jesus spoke a lot in metaphors (parables) and often most things he said were not literal.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower numbers 5:11-31 if a husband has feeling of jealousy or presume women of lewdness, he can take her to the high priest and the priest will take of her head cover and make her drink bitter water mix with the dust of the alter floor(tabernacle) and ink of the paper on which the priest will write curse for her. And she can only say Ameen every time she is cursed.
makorpoka 2 years ago
@makorpoka If she is truely guilty of accusations her belly will swell and her thigh will rot but if not nothing will happen. The man shall be guilt free of the iniquity and women shell bear her iniquity.(trial by ordeal)
makorpoka 2 years ago
that sucks, but sounds better than being beheaded or killed in an honor killing.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower where did u find beheaded or killed in an honor killing in Quran, Qoute the chapter number and verse number
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower Are those verses from Sura?
Hans021220 1 year ago
Makorpoka, do you get jealous of your husband's other wives because Koran says "Try as you may, you cannot treat all your wives impartially." (Surah 4:126-)
You call me intolerant hmm, the Koran says.... "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower 3. And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower 4. (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower people like u goes to anti islamic sites and picks up matterials which r fabricated, corrupted and try to act very cleaver. u think to deceive people, u r only deceiving ur self. U r keeping ur self ignorant
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower islam is the only religion that limits the ammout of marriages. in other religion the amount is unlimited.4:3. If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans,Marry women of your choice,Two or three or four;but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or that your right hands possess,that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
makorpoka 2 years ago
So let me see if I understand correctly -- Allah limits the number of marriages to 4, and his prophet Muhammed contradicts Allah and the Koran by taking on more than four wives and having other women he wants to have sex with as concubines? And hacking a woman's husband up infront of her and then wanting to marry her is normal, how?
buddhistflower 2 years ago
It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision Surah 33:36 --
doesn't Muhammed marrying more than 4 contraditct that?
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower a person can marry many time but can keep for wife at a time. and the filth u just said did u find it in Quran nooooo but facts from anti Islamic historians,who have alleged artificial facts to malign ISLAM
makorpoka 2 years ago
Khadijah, Sawdah, Aishah, Hafsah, Zaynab, Umm Salamah, Zaynab, Juwariyah, Mariyah, Safyyah, Umm Habeeba, and Maymunah --- Actually, I got that quote when the Egyptian scholar Dr. Attya was issuing a fatwah that women had to breastfeed adult men inorder to avoid punishment for being in the same room with unrelated males. I guess it's what Muhammed said, and Aysha encouraged it because it allowed her to be in the same room with unrelated males, especially after the Muhammed died.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower now u r guessing and maligning islam. what ever statement u make either qoute it from Quran or get lost. any tom dick or harry will say something and it becomes reality. is that what u believe. like i said u r just r brainwashed very well with forged artificial facts.u heard things here and there and now u have taken a side without varifying. those who rejects the truth and follows falsehood,its the same whether u warn them or not.Liars cant never take the side of truth.
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower but have u read ur own bible, 2samuel 13:5to14 brother raping sister.david had 700 wives and 300 concuvines and his elder son had sex with them 2 samuels 16:22. for more filth see leviticus 18:8-18,20:11-14and17-21. i am not mentions the titles cause i dont want to offend christians. by the way i spent $40 for kjb bible and the things i am qouting i have read my self unlike u qouting from anti islamic sites
makorpoka 2 years ago
@makorpoka numbers 27:8 women inherit no property if she has brother.numbers 36:6 if women have no brother she gets the properties but then she can only marry in her own tribe
numbers 30:6,14 the witness or vow of women can be cancel by the witness or vow of men.
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower even after limiting the amout of marriage up to 4 ALLAH says its difficult to do jutice when u have more than 1 wifes and encouraging to marry only once 4:129 You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire,so do not incline too much to one of them so as to leave the other hanging.And if you do justice,and do all that is right and fear Allâh by keeping away from all that is wrong, then Allâh is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful
makorpoka 2 years ago
@buddhistflower by the way 4:126 And to Allâh belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allâh is Ever Encompassing all things. u must have made a typo of 129 to 126
makorpoka 2 years ago
And people like Wafa Sultan are trying to misguide people, creating dispute and encouraging people to take away the RIGHT and LIBERTY from one another, and get themselves famous in the process. Be aware of such hypocrites and enemy of society, they dont want good for any
makorpoka 2 years ago
Country doesnt belong to the person,rather the person belongs to the country.Christians love to live their life according to Bible,Hindu according to Veda and Muslims to Quran.Everyone has the right to practice their own religion in USA,unlike many other countries.And this is what makes this country so great and different from other countries.Everyone has the LIBERTY and RIGHT
makorpoka 2 years ago
Salman rushdie called Americans motherfucking,British sisterfucking and all white women bitch.He also abused with hideous slangs many countries and respectful American and English leaders and women.He used many more slangs for the western world and insulted many religious diets of Hinduism and respectful women, leaders and angels of Christianity and Islam in this book "Satanic Verses.The word 'FUCK' appears 63 times,'BITCH' 10 times and BASTARD 49 times.Please read the book Satanic Verses
makorpoka 2 years ago
yeah, but he didn't kill his daughter for not wearing a headscarf, or bury her alive for talking to boys, force women to wear burquas, gang rape in the name of Allah, hack off limbs, mutlate female genitals or become a suicide bomber - you can't say that about many muslims. Americans can debate name calling and we argue with him in a debate, we didnt issue a fatwah to kill him. I guess Muslims don't learn the poem - sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower all these things u said, produce ur evidence if u r truthful.
makorpoka 2 years ago
it won't let me post links, remove the spaces...
americancongressfortruth. c o m /2009/11/12/radical-islams-threat-to-america/#more-4204
Zainab Shafii, 19, Sahar Shafii, 17 and Geeti Shafii, 13 were killed in Canada for not wearing headscarves
google how the saudi police let girls burn alive rather than let them leave a burning building unscarved
google muslim rape europe - there is an epidemic
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower what an evil propaganda. u went to some anti islamic site and qouting there forged artificial facts. Even if we consider this true for the sake of argument, hitler kill 6 million jews now can i hold resposible all christians or christianity for that, no. IRA in uk , Benito Mussolini , mafia and dont even ask india. people like u takes the blacksheep to malign the community
makorpoka 2 years ago
Google away, there are thousands of stories telling the same thing about Islam.
Hitler stopped killing Jews, Muslims haven't before or after Hitler, and Muhammed says to continue killing them even when they hide behind trees. Arafat's uncle, the Grand Mufiti told Hitler to kill the Jews and gave hitler the idea for the yellow star, which had been used by Muslims before. And Sudanese and, Armenian genocide -- that's not Islamic now?
buddhistflower 2 years ago
funny other muslims agree with me about many point I made...
reformislam . org
buddhistflower 2 years ago
And just because other people are bad, doesn't make Muhammed any less bad. If one man murders, it doesn't change the fact he is a murderer if someone else murders, just means they are both murderers. But notice who you have to name to compare an equal - evil men. Why do I condemn the religion, easy cause of the leader of it, I will condemn any bad leader who asks people to commit rape, murder and pedophilia. The founder was evil, therefore the religion is evil.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower Hitler killed at least 6000000 jews,and if he would not have been stopped,I am sure he would have continued.Otherwise I agree with you.Muslims are not killing only jews,but nonmuslims as well.It is written in Sura 9:6
Hans021220 1 year ago
Irshad is somewhat of an annoying interviewer...
vp1981ad 2 years ago
Inspiring stuff, one and a half hours well spent.
unsorted1138 2 years ago 4
she is too excited -.-
googoo120 2 years ago
In America, corporations tell the story. Money talks.
fatimanazeer 2 years ago
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salman rushdie and irshad amanji are enemies of islam ! let us find joy in killing them in the name of islam!
samgee2007 2 years ago
well he would be your enemy, but doesn't want to kill you. Who is the more noble? Who is the more compassionate? More human? More just?
lachiemckenzie 2 years ago 5
Shut up you primitive, dim witted, cowardly, pathetic, reptilian, barabaric piece of junk
vikramkrishnan 2 years ago 4
My favourite thing about Rushdie is how badly he pisses off morons :)
12AX74Life 2 years ago 5
whooaa...budhist ...u really need to read ur history book once agin...britain created Pakistan?? lol.. n ovcourse jews n christians lived dere before ,dats cuz islam came aftr dese religions (Duhh!)
n GirlInColour(lol)..Muhammad (S.A.W) neva married a5 yr old!! y do u guys rite nonsense?i really request u 2 first atleast CONFIRM n den spread ur nonsense..
And if v muslims are nt writing or speaking against any religion,v expect da same ...
Peace
marium7 2 years ago
Britain's Parliament passed in July 1947 the Indian Independence Act, ordering the demarcation of the dominions of India and Pakistan by midnight of Aug. 14-15, 1947,
Asiha was 6 years old when Muhammed would "thigh" her, nine when they married and had sex with her -- it's in the Koran You are ignorant if you think Muslims are not speaking against any religion- tell that to a Hindu or a Copt, or Christians in Lebannon, or Jews, or Buddhists in Afghanistan/Maylasia
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower what a liar, no were in the Quran these are mention. Quran the verses chapter and verses number not from the hadith
makorpoka 2 years ago
Sura 65 on rules for divorce. Notice below that you can divorce a woman who hasn't menstruated yet ("not had their courses").
Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower if u r hindu u dont have trouble to believe that girl can born from fire, dropadi.and if u r christian u dont have trouble to take prophet Lot as true prophet who commited incest with his 2 daughter while he was drunk according to bible but u r having trouble with the age of mother Aisha, who was a miracle child. who grow really fast for her age and had magnificent intelligence. which is easy to digest the incest or blood and flesh comingout of fire or a child who was overgrowth
makorpoka 2 years ago
OMG - you freaking believe that? OK, back then Islam didn't allow anyone but girls to play with dolls and toys, after he had sex with her, she would go play with her dolls. You have many leaders who use this to justify child brides today under Islamic law -- girls can marry at 9 years old cause Aisha did. Or are you saying the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia doesn't know Islamic law, cause I'm repeating what he says. Actually, read your goofy ass books and laws, then get back to me.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
What is easy for me to believe is that Muhammed was no different from a psychopath we had in Wacco Texas called David Koresh, who acted just like your prophet -- Muhammed perveted the Bible and rewrote it, same with Koresh, only Muhammed called it the Koran. And don't say he couldn't read, the fucker could hear and had a scribe, people can repeat stories they hear and change them.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
Aisha was smart, she remarked it was funny that every time allah spoke it seemd to be favorable to another way Muhammed wanted to manipulate a situation, too bad Muhammed beat her for being curious. Muhammad led 27 military campaigns against innocent villages and caravans & planned 38 others
Sorry if you get offended by the actions and words of your prophet.
I am the prophet that laughs when killing my enemies. (Hadith)
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower people like u dont want the good of any. all u want to do is create misunderstand among the people and create mischief but u act as if u r the peace maker where u have allergy with peace. constantly attacking people to enrage them and create dispute. the day people of all society will realize the criminals like u there will be no mischief or bloodshed on land
makorpoka 2 years ago
One of the leaders of Hammas who just converted to Christianity just said the same about Muslims -- I speak the truth about what is written in your Koran, about dhimmi status and Sharia laws. I'm not hindu so, no I don't burn women. I know Copts, Assyrians, Hindus,Bahais Africans, and people all over the world same story about Islam. Not even Muslims treat other Muslims well, look at their Sharia laws, produces Taliban and oppressive regimes, Shia kills Sunni, Whabbi kills everyone but blame us.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
I do not want mischief or bloodshed, on the contrary sweetie, your Koran calls for chaos and war to bring back the 12th Imam Mahndi -- who the president of Iran was babbling about at the UN, and same with Osama -- they are waging Jihad to bring chaos and mischief according to the Koran as some kind of prophecy they want to happen.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@makorpoka I tink that what buddhistflower says about Islam is the truth.Be open towards buddhistfower have to say!
Hans021220 1 year ago
Thats a good argument to allow Muslim women to work, confirming that the prophet was actually employed by his first wife. (c 1:19 on video)
bernardthunder 2 years ago
what if the prophet wasn't employed by his first wife? Would that detract from women's right to vote? No of course not (for me- perhaps not for you).
lachiemckenzie 2 years ago
This woman is sick in her head ..she totally have lost her identity but I am not the one who has the right to say whether she is muslim or salman is muslim or not .. he doesn't quite make clear where is form Iran or Pakistan why he is talking about pakistan which is not true
inn0centkiller 2 years ago
Oh your jeallous thickie!!
You have found a woman that is fare more intelligent than you!!
You poor beggar you cannot stand it!!
You silly pack, you dont know anything about your primitive country!
malsifood 2 years ago
@inn0centkiller
Im not sure if I got the grammer of your comment, but Salman is from India and he is an atheist.
I think it is you who is sick in the head, for not wanting freedom.
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buddhistflower 2 years ago
This woman does come off as rather self important. The interview is not about her. Although I must admit she ask fairly decent questions though.
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the real cry is on yaumul qiyama... the kafir and the rest will die one day and then u will know. no muslim feels bad that the kafir left the deen its ur own loss, however the muminoon will defend their religion. and this kafir went hiding in the western lands because it knows what would have happened had it been in its land. cowards... he will die just like everyone else on here
raniellah 2 years ago
learn to spell. is the koran literally true? was mohammed really 12 feet tall. didn't he marry a 12 year old. grossssssssssssss
ZANGZANGDANZ 2 years ago
u do not know anything. stop this jahiliya. a'uthu billah... you need some education, its no use urguing with you since you r only looking for fault and not wanting to know. u'r blinded by ur hate and ignorance whence you will not understand. and everything u said about the rasul (peace be upon him) is false. and yes the qur'an is the truth. we believe as well in the gospel that was given to jesus peace be upon him, but not the one that is of today because of man corrupted.
raniellah 2 years ago
but actual recorded facts undermine most of the stories in your holy book. particularly if you take them as literal.
ZANGZANGDANZ 2 years ago
and yet the hadith and sunna is also man corrupted since its from mouth to mouth. Its like playing telephone game. none of the word will be exactly the same but what we heard and understand.
Think about it
phantomboy 2 years ago
only the kafiroon will mourn the death of rushdie and his likes. i do not debate with people who do not have enough knowlegde about islam. to try to reform anything in islam is kufr because u r saying that what was brought to us by God was not good n try to change the law haram. in islam we respect everything that our Rabb swt brought to us and insulting,mocking anything tha He swt brought is an act of kufr and rushdie is a kafir and if he was in a land of shariah he would be in sakaratul mawt.
raniellah 2 years ago
is it haram to spell properly? if so, then you are a good muslim
ZANGZANGDANZ 2 years ago
The Koran was not brought to you by God. Muhammed plagerized the Bible, wrote himself in and created a cult of personality. He was jealous of the jews and when he couldn't have what they did, he stole what he could and ordered to kill.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
omg, finally a real Muslim-- will you go explain this to makorpoka that it is in the Koran to kill non-believers and those who offend islam? You know the story of the cow, and especially Jews and Christians being the descendants of monkeys and swine and explain Muslims do not want peace with non-Muslims because the world is either Al Haram or Al Islam and it is right to destroy anything unislamic cause it's in the Koran!!!
buddhistflower 2 years ago
shaitans...
colombakolla 2 years ago
filthy creature why cant u respect ur mother?
raniellah 2 years ago
THIS KAFIR THINKS ITS GOING TO LIVE FOREVER. the day will come when rushdie will die and the earth will not mourn and that manji who thinks she can change islam. to hell with ur evil
raniellah 2 years ago
if there is hope, it is in people like rushdie and manji, two of the bravest people in the world. you think the world will not mourn? when they die, it will be a little less good in the world.
why is she evil? because she stands up against the blatent racism and sexism in the koran, something that should have been done LONG AGO.
also, why do you hate rushdie? have you ever read his book? i have. THERE IS NOTHING BOUT ISLAM IN IT!!!
reply if u like. i'm up for a debate if you can handle it.
GirlInColour 2 years ago
KAFIR
raniellah 2 years ago
KAFIR
raniellah 2 years ago
It seems like everywhere is becomeing lik e HIgh school
Valkyrie0010 2 years ago
hey better we get it all out in a chat room and debate, even with the name calling, it's better than us killing each other and at least we get to hear the other side and know why they are pissed off even if we don't agree.
buddhistflower 2 years ago
@buddhistflower i totally agree with u, this way many of the contradiction will be clarified well and it will be easier. first time u said something logical and not attacking anyone. u have my respect for that
makorpoka 2 years ago
Rushdie = Awsome
darkroommonster 2 years ago
decieving rushdie watch this:
/watch?v=eWIfNpHz_Xg
How Rushdie Fooled The West - A lecture by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat.
truecall2 2 years ago
I'm only really becoming aware of him in literally the past week or so. I've begun reading 'Midnight's Children' and I have to say that purely as a storyteller he's already got my vote. I always read for story to first time around and for subtext and message the second time, and I think he's great (I intend to leave 'The Satanic Verses' I've read the rest).
moiphx2 2 years ago
she is so tediously annoying!!!!!!!
SHUT UP IRSHAD MANJI
intersik101 2 years ago
You can say that again... Good point
TheBloodySpirit 2 years ago
did he call himself and his drunkard father a scholar?
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
Though it is true that the scholars of Islam do not preach original sin, as indicated by Mr. Rushdie but the Islamic prophet does point to original sin in the Hadith of Bokhari. Watch video by Christthebridge " A Challenge to al to change the Islam.
Christthebridge 2 years ago
Sorry the video title is: 'A Challenge to all Muslim scholars'. I am going to post the video here, as it challenges the existing Islamic teaching.
Christthebridge 2 years ago
Oh my gosh this women is horrible. Salman rocks though! Yay!
Davester1988 2 years ago
Wow, two great human beings coming together. I am proud of the fact that they have Indian heritage. But above of all, they speak their minds out and speak for many people who dont have a voice....
alps112001 2 years ago 2
hell yeah. i love manjis book. rushdie i just respect so much cos he's so brave.
btw, was nice to read a positive comment here- mostly its all "death to rushdie stuff"
GirlInColour 2 years ago
Irshad looks like master splinter out of the turtles and rushdie looks like a donkeys ass on after its had a dump
ShazadKashmir 2 years ago
cry more you backward idiot
ZANGZANGDANZ 2 years ago
i like irshad but she's totally out of her league here
vancouver11 2 years ago
Wow... such thought provoking conversations. Both Salman and Irshad are such clear thinkers. No bullcrap attached. I hope salman writes many more Midnights children and Salimar.
seabala 2 years ago 4
Midnight's Children is just... amazing huh? =)
Davester1988 2 years ago
Some of the comments on this video are ridiculous, not all but some. I was hoping for some intellectual dialogue and informed opinions but then I look at Machhour1 and Aschahin. If you have something to argue, please do it in an intellectual manner instead of just spewing hatred and bias everywhere? thankyou!
Sassafras235 2 years ago
the palestinians had turned down statehood twice before. British and French mandates also formed the countries of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Israel out of the old ottoman empire. they also created pakistan. the thing is muslims don't want anyone else to exist in those countries, never mind that jews and christians lived in those areas long before Islam ever existed.
buddhistflower 2 years ago