FEAR 2 is like your typical scary movie with no real atmosphere. F.E.A.R does the little things that keep you at the edge of your seat, it's atmosphere is so realistic and freaks you out.
But the game is not called FEAR 2: Attack of the Killer Shadows.
And though FEAR 2's shadows are not the best, the lighting, atmospheric affects and colour palette are far superior to the first game. The motion and fluidity are also better.
i love fear 1 and fear files much better then this new stuff!! fear 2's lighting was so typical of new games the dark shadows and color is what made fear 1 unique and they lost it i only play the new games because im a huge fan of the series!
Consoles have ruined pc games. There are now only consoles ports to the pc which suck balls. I cant remember the last time I saw a game that had impressive graphics, maybe crysis was the last one at the was 3 years ago, and we wond see improvements until next generations consoles are out. PC gaming is dead.
@pkeetingphd rejoice :D Well at least some hope comes from some free onine games which promise good gameplay and graphics. Give a look to Hessian and Mabinogi Heroes....they are the first free2play games with such a nice graphics, i wonder wht the future reserve to us if we support this market:D
i think that the reason that fear 2 didnt focus that mutch on the shadows is that fear 1 used the shadows to create scenes, but fear 2 dosent- but its realy not a problem
@globalchaos1984 I'm getting a PS3 soon and I wanted to know which Fear game to get. So you say Fear 1 is the best? Cause some say Fear2 and I'm confused O.o
@globalchaos1984 Well I just got FEAR 2 with my new PS3 and Dead Space. I read that FEAR1 was a very bad port to the PS3 so I didn't bother. So far FEAR2 isn't that bad. I have til Jan 15th to decide to keep it or get something else in it's place. Thanks though :) Dead Space is just fucking amazing...
yeah although i would say in a normal persons view... F1 did have that dark gloomy atmosphere and that the only time your in the daylight outsite is at the end still its very cloudy.. any the enemy lines are very funny (yes you remember your moments i sure rememeber mine =D) although things i like in F2 was iron sight nice graphics.. bit more gore well, more blood when eniemies died... the story is complex but good.. i just hope F3 is like F1 +F2 + the new F3
i tottally agree with this video and that even know i played both games... for me personally they are not scary at all not one bit.. just moments in F1 and popping out on you in F2
fear 2 focused on high res, sharp textures and glowing effects. They even got rid of the *tons of smoke/dust* effect from fear 1 into fear 2. too bad.
I agree that FEAR 1 was darker and scarier, the ambient sounds and creepy lighting made it awesome! Also, in FEAR 2, does your character even cast a shadow like the first one? or does it only appear in the areas where dynamic shadowing is supported?
agree f.e.a.r 2 was to short i finished it in 1 day i got so sad : < waited so long for f.e.a.r 2 to come out and the game was to easy and not scary at all f.e.a.r 1 was MUCH better but i have read about f.e.a.r 3 and they say its much longer and much more scary then the other f.e.a.r games i hope its right cuz i miss the times in the game i say omg! omg! what's gona happend now! can some one play for me im to scard! :D
Even now after I finished Fear 2 i am not into playing it again...but I won't mind playing the first one for the 3rd time or make a little rampage in Fear Combat:)
apart from the shadows, Fear 1 was whole lotta better -the weapons, action and destruction was much more juicy - enemies looked cooler, were smarter and had these great lines like ##FuucK!##(in slow-motion:)) what's more - it was much more scarier (actually they magnage to scare me in F2 about two times?:/), and not in this "constantly, rapidly poping from the screen - way", but there was also a great atmosphere of mystery, which F2 doses really lack.
@malkrow21 you would think wrong. If you stood in one place in FEAR 1 the AI would circle around the level to flank you. Stand in one place in FEAR 2 and they walk right in front of your gunfire.
Oh, yeah? The AI in F.E.A.R 1 would just duck down in the open rather than move out of the way and find cover when you threw a grenade. At least in F.E.A.R 2 they actually move away. And I never seen the AI walk right infront of my gunfire, ever; but I have seen them just standing there despite being shot. However, I have seen them advance on me, flank me so they can properly throw a grenade at my position, and when something went wrong I saw them falling back and calling for back up.
@malkrow21 in fear2 enemies stand and wait for you to shoot. At least in fear1 they try to get some cover before it's too late. And yea, in fear2 sometimes they run infront of your gunfire shooting twice...then it's over
Accountnumuno, I've never seen that happen once. Not once has an enemy walked right into my gunfire; in fact I've often seen them run away from it, especially when they realize the object they are behind doesn't protect them very well so they attempt to find a better spot. But at times I do see them just standing there while taking gunfire and too rarely would they properly react and move out of the way and head for cover.
Game auto-detecting and optimizing graphics by your GRAPHIC CARD (graphic renderer)
(You cannot change all options by manuel)
Your graph card havent anough power or your graph card DRIVER have some problems, upgrade it.
I can see all shadows and lightning effects in my PC. But i saw your video and i thinking about this trouble. Because your FEAR 2 using normal graph pictures, and you are not see shadows. Graphics are not working proparly at your pc. Some working , some dont working
fear 2 took 2 steps back in combat i.e u could get a shotgun right in someones face and send the bodys beautifully flying through the air. 5 steps back in what this video says about shadows, 2 steaps back in weapon sounds i fear one i could really get my gun off, i hate this squashed looking game, arnt games supposed to look more advanced as the years pass by?
just goes to show you how cheap they went with shadowing techniques, i use the f.e.a.r 1 sdk and know its easy to plop in some shadows if you got skills, it doesnt take years, they left shadows out wich coulda only taken them a extra month with a dev team to apply them to everything. CHEAP BASTARDS. and whats this?? no sdk for f.e.a.r 2? what a piece of crap, this games geared torwards this shitty new generation of game junkie teens that dont know nothing about nothing.
I actually had never noticed the lack of shadowing in FEAR 2.......but then I realized why. I was too busy focusing on everything else. So as much as the shadows were much less than the first FEAR, it doesn't matter because there are so many other engaging things in the game that the shadows really don't hinder the performance. I used to be a PC gamer and always tried to bump my settings to full, when really in the end it doesn't do all that much to the quality. FEAR1 seemed a lot darker too
@Gameinggames you know i am tired of pc gamers being so hot headed. i like to be a little more relaxed when i play games. thanks steam for making pc gaming easier, before it was kind of a pain in the ass
i finish the first fear and is good but the variaty enmys sux only soldiers and robot ........ fear 2 have better weapons and more enemys if u want shadow play on console versions =p
go on about little shadows all you want, but i was too busy getting into fights and having fun to pick apart every little aspect of the look of the game.
and if you have nothing better to do, ts time you got a life
no denying fear 1 was a better game, not only cuz shadows, but the ai in fear 1 was way better, but i still ahd alot of fun with fear2, and the graphics in fear2 are GREAT
Yo man a quick question, does F.E.A.R. 2 have the Particle weapon that F.E.A.R.1 had? (the one that was like a sniper laser and turned people into skeletons in one shot pretty much)
Blame it on the xbox360 which is the primary system that the game was built around. It obviously couldn't handle all of those shadows, let alone volumetric particles, dust, debris, sparks, physics, etc. This game sucks balls, especially MP.
well FEAR 1 IS better n scarier lol like the expansion pack,I like FEAR 2 TOO im not sayin it sucks,But fear2 when alma folos n i look at the back i shit myself!
harry harrison, you have no idea what your talking about... its goes like this: shadows are a very important tool of atmosphere, thats what sucks the player in and made the first game so good.
There are much more major flaws in fear 2, that fear 1 had "fixed" wont go over them all, lots of videos for that needed
But its no secret that fear2 is a disaster compared to fear1, I feel bad , as I am a huge fan of the first fear and those shalow expansion packs even. :)
part of the problem is you cannout usually set how many shadows you want the game to render in any game. other is absence of method for realtime shadows from diffuse lighting.
Seriously when the diffused light coming through the window at the start of the video didnt cast distinct parallel rays and sharp shadows and all I got was a fairly realisticly baked-radiosity-lit room I threw up in my mouth a little. Thanks for the vid.
By the way, from the point of view of someone who's worked with 3d renderers before, making every light in a realtime 3d scene cast dynamic shadows is shoddy workmanship when you have so many lighting options. Doom 3 and FEAR 1 got away with it because full dynamic lighting was the gimmick of the day. FEAR 2 is a much more complex engine, so the art direction shifted to accommodate. I'd say that's pretty good workmanship.
I wouldn't really call any of the FEAR games survival horror. action horror, maybe. FPS with horror elements, definitely. But survival horror kinda implies that it's going to be hard to survive. FEAR is a little more about bullet hoses and ridiculous carnage than sneaking past zombies or anything.
Well I dont want pc games producers to become lazy and do shoddy work. I rather show them that people are aware of their mistakes and that we like to have things fixed. I dont know maybe you are a console gamers you guys are used to low graphics while pc gamers are used to high detailed graphics.
Pretty sure I just bought this on PC and play it on full detail. But then again there's no way to prove it to you because I'm not gonna make a video dedicated to how I play my games. If you call a game "shoddy work" simply because of shadows, you're playing games for the wrong reason.
So yes, FEAR 1 has better shadows, in that everything casts a shadow, and the art style revolves around that. FEAR 2 has better shadows from a technical standpoint that have to be used much more sparingly, and made up for it with great lighting. Hell, FEAR 2 have ambient occlusion, which I've only seen in Crysis so far, so FEAR 2 wins in my book.
not from my poit of view. I realy like the Fear 2 graphics but I do miss the shadows alot. I mena comeon its a horros survival shooter it needs a shadow.
Look at it this way. FEAR 1 didn't have to deal with indirect lighting, true soft shadows (soft shadows in FEAR are a joke IMO), HDR, and a lot of the reflection/refraction shaders that FEAR 1. FEAR 1 can afford to give all of it's Dynamic lights hard shadows because A) there weren't very many lights per scene and B) there weren't as many lighting/shading algorithms vying for processor/GPU resources.
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS VIDEO! You can't even say that the shadows in fear 2 are bad CAUSE THERE ARE NONE! For a 2009 fps, fear 2 has absolutely terrible graphics. I honestly think that the graphics in fear 1 are much better and more realistic. When i first played fear 2, i noticed the lack of shadows and i thought that my in-game settings were not being recognized. Boy was I wrong. I actually popped in fear 1 and compared like you did and came to the same conclusions. What a joke.
Fear 1 SEEMS to have more "dynamic shadows" because 1. It uses an old obsolete rendering method called STENCIL Shadows (seen in DOOM3 engine games which is very sharp and unrealistic shadows rendered from ONE light source only). 2. FEAR 2 utilizes A LOT more DYNAMIC LIGHTING than FEAR 1 so there's no need for those poor looking "dynamic shadows" of FEAR 1 since FEAR 1 NEEDED that to make up for the lack of HDR lighting quality. It also looks more realistic and closer to SOFT shadows IMHO.
I have to disagree there alot of scenes in Fear 2 that look extremly flat without the shadows. Especially the outdoor levels look very boring without shadows. And the fact that most enemys have no shadows at all makes the game look boring.
You don't need to come on here all disrespectful and ignorant you fucking geek. First of all, I didn't say the ENGINE itself was INCAPABLE of either soft-shadows NOR a limitation on the amount of light sources, I just provided the evident for that ERA of coding when the game was programmed. Secondly, the "soft shadow" option wasn't DIRECTX 9's hardware-level of softshadowing, it was simply a shadow-doubling render which is clear when you look at it, which explains why that option KILLS FPS.
I liked the shadows of Fear 1 and even Fear 2 has em. For instance play the first level after you splitt up the first time with this girl you enter a room that supports the same shadows as fear 1. There are a couple of those lights in Fear 2...yet 90% of the light do not support any shadows at all. I mean just take a look at MP it looks so flat and boring...
Yeah, i never said I dont' like either lol, I actually like the engine itself and respect it. But I agree, the shadows are definitely absent in FEAR 2 .....i guess the developers decided it looked too unprofessional compared to other games or just too reminiscent of FEAR 1 with those shadows...because the contrast of those shadows were just too dark and sharp but that's the type of shadows this engine renders it seems. Other than that the game still looks great!
haha, I feel you on that. I'm don't disagree with you at all, it's all preference. I'd like to see shadows still in conjunction with the updated engine....I still don't know why they left out the shadows altogether...I mean if they're gonna keep the PLAYER's shadow (which doesn't look half bad anyways despite the hardcut shadows)..then they might as well apply them to ALL objects lol.
They obviously removed them for performance reasons on the console, disproving their claim that they developed for each platform separate.
The PC which could handle dynamic lights on MAX (meaning everything) got the stick because they just copied the levels over from the xbox360 version and called it a day. Heck, they didn't even add any pc-specific features (bindable mouse keys etc.) its a 1:1 console port
I agree with you to a certain point. However, due to the technology of the consoles (referring to PS3 and 360), they are MORE than capable of running the updated FEAR engine to the max with full shadows on. ...well atleast the 360 is capable, it has a tripple-core processor, an ATI modified card clocked at 550/1800 with shader model 3.5. If anything, they usually OPTIMIZE games specifically for consoles and this game only uses DirectX 9.
is that supposed to sound impressive? a triple core processor? give me a break, the technology in the 360 is over 3 years old... to me it's ridiculous that pc gamers are getting shafted because of the terrible 360 hardware, with maybe the exception of crysis. everything is optimized for this aging hardware, when in reality pcs are 4-5X as fast as these ancient pieces of shit.
You've just proved you ignorance from the first sentence in your statement because you obviously ignored the ENTIRED point of my reference to the 360. My POINT wasn't to try and make the 360 seem spectacular, I'm aware it's 3 years old. My POINT was to point out that FEAR 2 runs on the same engine that FEAR 1 did (which came out in 2006, only a year after it's launch), so it is capable of fullshadows.
Thirdly, WHEN did I state that "prerendered" shadows looked GOOD let alone better in a game period than a game WITH shadows? How about you re-evaluate my statements before being more ignorant than you are. Fourthly, there ARE no "pre-rendered" ANYTHING in FEAR 2's engine which BTW is a modification to the original games engine. It's ALL dynamic lighting, HIGH DYNAMIC range to exact and it's all REAL-TIME, so where you got the prerendered Idea, i dont' know.
hey stop attacking Gameinggames.. he's right! FEAR2 lacks in many areas that they should have already fixed! no dynamic shadows in a game in 2009? i have all graphics in maximun and i still got jagged edges in doors and fences! that sucks!
fear 1 multi best ever
TommyDDoom 2 days ago
fear 1-scary as hell, shocking moments makes u feel paranoic and scared at the scary parts
fear 2-not scary at all, no big shocking monets, suposed better gameplay but really i like fear 1 more and better graphics
fear 3-it doesn´t seem fear at all not scary just action and killing for me fear is dead
bravissio1756 2 weeks ago
FEAR 2 is like your typical scary movie with no real atmosphere. F.E.A.R does the little things that keep you at the edge of your seat, it's atmosphere is so realistic and freaks you out.
Hem3fiction 3 weeks ago
But the game is not called FEAR 2: Attack of the Killer Shadows.
And though FEAR 2's shadows are not the best, the lighting, atmospheric affects and colour palette are far superior to the first game. The motion and fluidity are also better.
UberNoodleX 5 months ago
iN HORROR GAMES, SHADOWS MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE! AND THEY SET THE ATMOSPHERE!
XxCeReBuSzzxX 5 months ago 7
it's not about shadows, obviously 2 has better graphics than 1.It's about gameplay, that 1 is better than 2(2 is not so scary)!
13scarfare13 6 months ago
At 3:11 you should have shot the lights. They swing around making the shadows go even more crazy.
Str1keRS1R 6 months ago
SHIT PEOPLE DIFFERENT GAME DESIGNERS MADE F.E.A.R 2, a different company :D
xXFoskoRoskoXx 8 months ago
2:14 Humo horrible
AZULES88MU 1 year ago
i love fear 1 and fear files much better then this new stuff!! fear 2's lighting was so typical of new games the dark shadows and color is what made fear 1 unique and they lost it i only play the new games because im a huge fan of the series!
JimBoopLoop 1 year ago
FEAR is much scary and better game than fear 2
Muttatuota 1 year ago 3
Not to mention fear 1 had soft shadowing support if your pc was beefy enough for it and for the time it looked amazing.
LemmingFace 1 year ago
F.E.A.R. 1, 2, and 3 vs Dead Space
Which is better?
Bthakilla4rilla 1 year ago
@Bthakilla4rilla they are all nice games...it depends on what you prefer...sci fi in space or on earth...I dont know they are all good lol
Gameinggames 1 year ago 4
@Bthakilla4rilla dead space gets old quick i thought i didn't like it compared to fear
JimBoopLoop 1 year ago
@Bthakilla4rilla bioshock2 ..VictorY 100%
beavus1000 11 months ago
I'm guessing its because fear 1 was made for the PC and fear 2 was for all consoles. Guess they decided consoles couldn't handle it.
Djghost1123 1 year ago
but F.E.A.R. 2 has motion blur, abd I love that :D
fxgamer0809 1 year ago
FEAR 1 had way better smoke graphics than FEAR 2.
CamelBallZee 1 year ago
because of consoles they had my make the engine run better
marc4life22 1 year ago
Consoles have ruined pc games. There are now only consoles ports to the pc which suck balls. I cant remember the last time I saw a game that had impressive graphics, maybe crysis was the last one at the was 3 years ago, and we wond see improvements until next generations consoles are out. PC gaming is dead.
pkeetingphd 1 year ago 2
@pkeetingphd rejoice :D Well at least some hope comes from some free onine games which promise good gameplay and graphics. Give a look to Hessian and Mabinogi Heroes....they are the first free2play games with such a nice graphics, i wonder wht the future reserve to us if we support this market:D
accountnumuno 1 year ago
RIP F.E.A.R.
Fear 2 KILLED the multiplayer COMPLETELY, and seemingly DOWNGRADED the graphics quality.
Thanks Console fanboys.
XTaintedOneX 1 year ago 8
I would have to say that FEAR1 is scarier then fear 2 but fear 2 has better game play
XBOXMANHELPER 1 year ago
i stll think fear 2 was better, but fear 1 did have awsom shadows im not gona lie
MrPrimoTurismo 1 year ago
who cares teddy bears?!
mrlee124 1 year ago
which one is scarier???????????????????
bobnublet 1 year ago
both games had problems with shadows, dynamic shadows in particular.
anyone noticed that your flashlight has no effect on shadow positions in either game?
Kanuch 2 years ago
LOL
the only scary thing in Fear 2 was the human stupidity that allowed to downgrade this wonderful game in EVERY aspect
highvoltaged 2 years ago
i think that the reason that fear 2 didnt focus that mutch on the shadows is that fear 1 used the shadows to create scenes, but fear 2 dosent- but its realy not a problem
vetle425 2 years ago
Fear 1 was made on PC
Fear 2 was made on consoles ... perfomance improvements - graphic nerfs
obeybosss 2 years ago
get FEAR 2 it is like the best game EVER....it is also very scary
TheVernonator97 2 years ago
I'm almost done with FEAR2. I'm freaking loving this game
dmajorhiphopproducer 2 years ago 2
Fear 1 > Fear 2 By a LONG SHOT!!!
globalchaos1984 2 years ago
Must have something to do with "PC > consoles By a LONG SHOT!!!"
NeoXF 2 years ago
yes your right ,...PC is a superior gaming platform.
JonathanWKnight 2 years ago 3
he isnt even running fear 2 at max
luian90 2 years ago 3
is that why there is a lack of shadows?
JonathanWKnight 2 years ago
wait his right, this game does lack shadows, but the reason y thers lack of shodow is cause its more graphic intense
luian90 2 years ago
lol, shame about the graphica effect of shadows.
=P
JonathanWKnight 2 years ago
mmmm .... no if it hasn't got shadows ... It is NOT more graphic intense.
obeybosss 2 years ago
@globalchaos1984 I'm getting a PS3 soon and I wanted to know which Fear game to get. So you say Fear 1 is the best? Cause some say Fear2 and I'm confused O.o
dmajorhiphopproducer 2 years ago
Fear 1 and Fear 1 expansion (Persious Mandate) by a mile.... Fear 2 was really disappointing :(
globalchaos1984 2 years ago
@globalchaos1984 Well I just got FEAR 2 with my new PS3 and Dead Space. I read that FEAR1 was a very bad port to the PS3 so I didn't bother. So far FEAR2 isn't that bad. I have til Jan 15th to decide to keep it or get something else in it's place. Thanks though :) Dead Space is just fucking amazing...
dmajorhiphopproducer 2 years ago
They are both good and very cheap now. Just buy one and get the other one later. You wont be disappointed with either one.
chanze555 2 years ago
continue (pressed post =))
yeah although i would say in a normal persons view... F1 did have that dark gloomy atmosphere and that the only time your in the daylight outsite is at the end still its very cloudy.. any the enemy lines are very funny (yes you remember your moments i sure rememeber mine =D) although things i like in F2 was iron sight nice graphics.. bit more gore well, more blood when eniemies died... the story is complex but good.. i just hope F3 is like F1 +F2 + the new F3
xenoxiduis 2 years ago 2
i tottally agree with this video and that even know i played both games... for me personally they are not scary at all not one bit.. just moments in F1 and popping out on you in F2
xenoxiduis 2 years ago
fear 2 focused on high res, sharp textures and glowing effects. They even got rid of the *tons of smoke/dust* effect from fear 1 into fear 2. too bad.
acidglow 2 years ago
FEAR 2 focused on consoles, period. Stop kidding yourselfs that it's something else.
NeoXF 2 years ago
Fear 1 does have better shadows, you sould set it to SOFT SHADOWS and it looks realy good. but FEAR2 has far better colors and fire
marc4life22 2 years ago
this shadow thing....very sad....they don't seem to do games like in the old days :(...now it's just about making the game 2 have wat 2 sale...
ClaudiuTTTVenom 2 years ago
I agree that FEAR 1 was darker and scarier, the ambient sounds and creepy lighting made it awesome! Also, in FEAR 2, does your character even cast a shadow like the first one? or does it only appear in the areas where dynamic shadowing is supported?
videossruless 2 years ago
agree f.e.a.r 2 was to short i finished it in 1 day i got so sad : < waited so long for f.e.a.r 2 to come out and the game was to easy and not scary at all f.e.a.r 1 was MUCH better but i have read about f.e.a.r 3 and they say its much longer and much more scary then the other f.e.a.r games i hope its right cuz i miss the times in the game i say omg! omg! what's gona happend now! can some one play for me im to scard! :D
stianlordfitte 2 years ago
Yes you right man ! In fear 1 the shadows are soo cool ! But in fear 2 nothing shadows......AWESOME GRAPHICS ! ;D
Danwolf15 2 years ago
Even now after I finished Fear 2 i am not into playing it again...but I won't mind playing the first one for the 3rd time or make a little rampage in Fear Combat:)
KrolikPudding 2 years ago
apart from the shadows, Fear 1 was whole lotta better -the weapons, action and destruction was much more juicy - enemies looked cooler, were smarter and had these great lines like ##FuucK!##(in slow-motion:)) what's more - it was much more scarier (actually they magnage to scare me in F2 about two times?:/), and not in this "constantly, rapidly poping from the screen - way", but there was also a great atmosphere of mystery, which F2 doses really lack.
KrolikPudding 2 years ago
I think the AI was smarter in F.E.A.R 2 actually, and they looked much cooler too.
malkrow21 1 year ago
@malkrow21 you would think wrong. If you stood in one place in FEAR 1 the AI would circle around the level to flank you. Stand in one place in FEAR 2 and they walk right in front of your gunfire.
halogenik 1 year ago
Oh, yeah? The AI in F.E.A.R 1 would just duck down in the open rather than move out of the way and find cover when you threw a grenade. At least in F.E.A.R 2 they actually move away. And I never seen the AI walk right infront of my gunfire, ever; but I have seen them just standing there despite being shot. However, I have seen them advance on me, flank me so they can properly throw a grenade at my position, and when something went wrong I saw them falling back and calling for back up.
malkrow21 1 year ago
@malkrow21 in fear2 enemies stand and wait for you to shoot. At least in fear1 they try to get some cover before it's too late. And yea, in fear2 sometimes they run infront of your gunfire shooting twice...then it's over
accountnumuno 1 year ago
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malkrow21 1 year ago
Accountnumuno, I've never seen that happen once. Not once has an enemy walked right into my gunfire; in fact I've often seen them run away from it, especially when they realize the object they are behind doesn't protect them very well so they attempt to find a better spot. But at times I do see them just standing there while taking gunfire and too rarely would they properly react and move out of the way and head for cover.
malkrow21 1 year ago
still it FEAR2 looks a lot better
Schizm1 2 years ago 2
and FEAR 2 more scarrier then FEAR 1
cuz scary moments are more real...
Thanks for shared video...
valdis44 2 years ago
Because;
Game auto-detecting and optimizing graphics by your GRAPHIC CARD (graphic renderer)
(You cannot change all options by manuel)
Your graph card havent anough power or your graph card DRIVER have some problems, upgrade it.
I can see all shadows and lightning effects in my PC. But i saw your video and i thinking about this trouble. Because your FEAR 2 using normal graph pictures, and you are not see shadows. Graphics are not working proparly at your pc. Some working , some dont working
valdis44 2 years ago
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deryabal 2 years ago
The scary moments were scarier in F.E.A.R. 1
xtremie 2 years ago 2
that fear 2 is on pc idiots
just buy it for xbox or ps3
jmanrules135 2 years ago
I much prefer fear 1 over fear 2, I don't really care about the whole shadow thing but fear 1 scared me a lot more and fear 2 was WAY to short
matthewrs7 2 years ago 3
i like fear 1 because its scary and also i like fear 2 because is gory but the best game for me is manhunt 1 and 2
12278419 2 years ago
fear 2 took 2 steps back in combat i.e u could get a shotgun right in someones face and send the bodys beautifully flying through the air. 5 steps back in what this video says about shadows, 2 steaps back in weapon sounds i fear one i could really get my gun off, i hate this squashed looking game, arnt games supposed to look more advanced as the years pass by?
dave00dance 2 years ago
fear 2 is just a horror game made for kids...consolo fanboys more precise
also FEAR1 was a great game thx to those guys at Vivendi Universal and their subdivision Sierra!! they helped alot! especially with the sound!
bad mistake did Monolith when breaking relations with VU Games
Warner Bros fucked up everything
motherfuckers!!
xStalkerxx 2 years ago 4
omg fear 2 got no shadows at all!
good i bought fear files.
goodkiller123 2 years ago
But graphyc Realty of Fear 2 Wins fear1 :D
mczuydi 2 years ago
just goes to show you how cheap they went with shadowing techniques, i use the f.e.a.r 1 sdk and know its easy to plop in some shadows if you got skills, it doesnt take years, they left shadows out wich coulda only taken them a extra month with a dev team to apply them to everything. CHEAP BASTARDS. and whats this?? no sdk for f.e.a.r 2? what a piece of crap, this games geared torwards this shitty new generation of game junkie teens that dont know nothing about nothing.
DigitalDemolition 2 years ago 10
I actually had never noticed the lack of shadowing in FEAR 2.......but then I realized why. I was too busy focusing on everything else. So as much as the shadows were much less than the first FEAR, it doesn't matter because there are so many other engaging things in the game that the shadows really don't hinder the performance. I used to be a PC gamer and always tried to bump my settings to full, when really in the end it doesn't do all that much to the quality. FEAR1 seemed a lot darker too
Xonos83 2 years ago
Who cares about the shadow .. -.-
aweSomeNessTutorials 2 years ago
Pc gamer! Quality, is something that pc gamers are accustomed to unlike console gamer.
Gameinggames 2 years ago 13
yup :) i pay for a kick ass graphic card i want kick ass graphics
8cdd5735 2 years ago
@Gameinggames ehm.. I have never noticed it...
Almafear 1 year ago
@Gameinggames you know i am tired of pc gamers being so hot headed. i like to be a little more relaxed when i play games. thanks steam for making pc gaming easier, before it was kind of a pain in the ass
Rockthedice 9 months ago
Yeah the lighting really added a nice effect to F.E.A.R. but then again, F.E.A.R. 2 is more actiony and more combatish.
Scorchy0 2 years ago
i finish the first fear and is good but the variaty enmys sux only soldiers and robot ........ fear 2 have better weapons and more enemys if u want shadow play on console versions =p
xinoxion 2 years ago
again they are the same on pc and console
Gameinggames 2 years ago 2
@Gameinggames actually the graphics are better on the pc version and still don't have shadows, so he's double wrong
psycold 1 year ago
@xinoxion don't compare these two guys .. FEAR one is the apsolute winner against the fear 2 becouse of the shadows,gameplay and stuff like that..
beavus1000 11 months ago
go on about little shadows all you want, but i was too busy getting into fights and having fun to pick apart every little aspect of the look of the game.
and if you have nothing better to do, ts time you got a life
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
I wish your flashlight casted shadows in this game,would make a huge difference in graphics.
Savotage95 2 years ago
no denying fear 1 was a better game, not only cuz shadows, but the ai in fear 1 was way better, but i still ahd alot of fun with fear2, and the graphics in fear2 are GREAT
silent13379 2 years ago
weapons were much better in FEAR 1 as well.
so were the scares, and the difficulty was much tougher. FEAR 2 wqas way too easy for me.
dumbed down for the consoles i suppose.
that sucks
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
Yo man a quick question, does F.E.A.R. 2 have the Particle weapon that F.E.A.R.1 had? (the one that was like a sniper laser and turned people into skeletons in one shot pretty much)
Scorchy0 2 years ago
no. it has like a particle weapon that fires a big ball of blue fuzz, that fries people, but that sniper beam is gone. shame too.
none of the weapons are in fear 2 that were in fear. there are similar weapons, but not the same.
and it does iron sights, rather than the slight zoom f the original. i thought it would be better, but it isnt.
it also has a laser, that chops off heads, but it uses ammo like no other weapon in the game, and ammo is scarce for it
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
Nope. =/ Flazer instead (Like a flame thrower beam laser)
Arkaha 2 years ago
lol people why u rlly carre about a small bug or errors i never saw any game perfect...
godzio14 2 years ago
i like fear 2
bioshockfan09 2 years ago
Blame it on the xbox360 which is the primary system that the game was built around. It obviously couldn't handle all of those shadows, let alone volumetric particles, dust, debris, sparks, physics, etc. This game sucks balls, especially MP.
philmiller666 2 years ago
I just launched up fear to verify, your video card just sucks :D
demonpanda1 2 years ago
Upload a video or did not happen
Gameinggames 2 years ago
fear one kicks fear 2's ass, whats up witht he shot gun in fear 2? fear one had a nice shot gun.
BestVideosEver01 2 years ago
well FEAR 1 IS better n scarier lol like the expansion pack,I like FEAR 2 TOO im not sayin it sucks,But fear2 when alma folos n i look at the back i shit myself!
Kelthman 2 years ago
lol it's just the shawdow tho i all ways keep think that F.E.A.R 2 it like unfinshed tho sucks tho i'm a fan of F.E.A.R :(
BAOUZIZI 2 years ago
so basically your going to judge a game on its...shadows...
wow i really never even took in this factor on a game,
if you have enough time to notice this or if this upsets you then well god help you,
i find the graphics to the second one is a hell of alot better than the first, and the controls are twice as better and the second one is way clearer
jharryharrison7 2 years ago
I love how people make assumptions.
I love Fear. I love Fear 1 and 2 I just miss the shadows alot because they added alot of atmosphere in my opinion!
Gameinggames 2 years ago
harry harrison, you have no idea what your talking about... its goes like this: shadows are a very important tool of atmosphere, thats what sucks the player in and made the first game so good.
There are much more major flaws in fear 2, that fear 1 had "fixed" wont go over them all, lots of videos for that needed
But its no secret that fear2 is a disaster compared to fear1, I feel bad , as I am a huge fan of the first fear and those shalow expansion packs even. :)
StrangerBob100 2 years ago
Y would anyone care about freakin shadows
codybode 2 years ago
Shadows in FEAR 1 was best what ever seen
but in FEAR 2 .......you know......
IIBANII 2 years ago
so is there any official comment on this? is it intended or a bug ? will there be a patch?
highvoltaged 3 years ago
they are working on a patch. My guess is its a bug. The reason why this happend is because the game was developed for all systems.
Gameinggames 3 years ago
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Who cares. Just play the game.
darkcg79 3 years ago
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It's just a shadow.
paulalex19 3 years ago
who cares about shadows ? ...
DiiNgoDiiLe 3 years ago
Monolith hatte keine zeit mehr für schatten -.- leider
sie haben einfach zu lange gebraucht für die neue engine zu machn
wenn sie noch schatten bei jedem gegenstand gemacht hätten wäre es erst im september fertig geworden
Fear 1 !!!
VeRox0611 3 years ago
FEAR 1 IS BETTER
xuefen14 3 years ago 4
i have shadows from the windows
xcloudx01 3 years ago
FEAR1 BUT FEAR2 WAS A GOOD GAME
bigb69ti 3 years ago
F.E.A.R 1 Wins. F.E.A.R 2 Loses
FEARThisGamer 3 years ago 4
fuck this game is perfect
crazgus 3 years ago
i think this game is a little girl that follow showing u scary images of your future beause u eat the last slice of pizza
runescape335 3 years ago 3
hahahahahahhahahaha evil pizza
scider7 3 years ago
Heh, FEAR 2's Peter Pan, it's lost its shadow :P
niatona 3 years ago 13
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Are you sure you have the shadows enabled? It would be hilarious if you didn't lol
Dodgerfan33 3 years ago
Consoles killed the franchise, or at least critically raped it. Simple as that.
NeoXF 3 years ago 16
yes so true..i have ps3 but would never play it on ps3 pc owns
bigb69ti 3 years ago
Agree im a console player..but they "consoled" Fear 2 ..big toy like weapons halo/haze like enemies...shame
Ben1987X 3 years ago 8
the 360 has 512MB of RAM, it is a ghetto PC
impulse10169 3 years ago 4
FEAR 1 was better
shiekta 3 years ago 12
Chalk this up right next to the issues with hit detection. Meh, what a pain.
FreyarS 3 years ago 3
part of the problem is you cannout usually set how many shadows you want the game to render in any game. other is absence of method for realtime shadows from diffuse lighting.
635574 3 years ago
take a look at this and you will see that the game is bugged. watch?v=cNg3HS69UFc&feature=channel_page
Gameinggames 3 years ago
Almost no enemy in this game has a shadow. I cant believe that you cant see this you are probabaly just a fan boy.
Gameinggames 3 years ago
maybe we can see thru them :P
vipersrules 3 years ago
not almost. EVERY nontransparent 3D object in f.e.a.r. had a shadow. that's why it's the masterpiece even now when sequel came out.
635574 3 years ago
Yeah bring back those completely unrealistic, ugly, anitquated full-black shadow volumes *jerks dick a lil* *posts a utub*
Yerningeleven 3 years ago
Seriously when the diffused light coming through the window at the start of the video didnt cast distinct parallel rays and sharp shadows and all I got was a fairly realisticly baked-radiosity-lit room I threw up in my mouth a little. Thanks for the vid.
Yerningeleven 3 years ago
I rather have dark unrealistic shadows instead of none at all. The levels look boring and flat without shadows.
Gameinggames 3 years ago
By the way, from the point of view of someone who's worked with 3d renderers before, making every light in a realtime 3d scene cast dynamic shadows is shoddy workmanship when you have so many lighting options. Doom 3 and FEAR 1 got away with it because full dynamic lighting was the gimmick of the day. FEAR 2 is a much more complex engine, so the art direction shifted to accommodate. I'd say that's pretty good workmanship.
Ganesha43 3 years ago
Yeah -sure - if 'looks worse than the first game' is your definition of 'good workmanship'. LOL.
Dogstar060763 3 years ago
I wouldn't really call any of the FEAR games survival horror. action horror, maybe. FPS with horror elements, definitely. But survival horror kinda implies that it's going to be hard to survive. FEAR is a little more about bullet hoses and ridiculous carnage than sneaking past zombies or anything.
Ganesha43 3 years ago
i wonder if the video creator ever heared of somthng like "diffused light"
ijuvatar 3 years ago
And diffused light casts no shadows?
eRe4s3r 3 years ago 2
*turns off shadows* heh, they call this scary?
desaluta 3 years ago 2
waw people really give a shit about shadows....
oh well there are every type of person in the world..
psnlonewolf1994 3 years ago
I miss when people didn't give a shit about this kind of thing.
desaluta 3 years ago
Well 50$ say I do give a shit :)
Gameinggames 3 years ago
I didn't say that nobody cares. I said I MISS the days when nobody cares.
desaluta 3 years ago
Well I dont want pc games producers to become lazy and do shoddy work. I rather show them that people are aware of their mistakes and that we like to have things fixed. I dont know maybe you are a console gamers you guys are used to low graphics while pc gamers are used to high detailed graphics.
Gameinggames 3 years ago
Pretty sure I just bought this on PC and play it on full detail. But then again there's no way to prove it to you because I'm not gonna make a video dedicated to how I play my games. If you call a game "shoddy work" simply because of shadows, you're playing games for the wrong reason.
desaluta 3 years ago
So yes, FEAR 1 has better shadows, in that everything casts a shadow, and the art style revolves around that. FEAR 2 has better shadows from a technical standpoint that have to be used much more sparingly, and made up for it with great lighting. Hell, FEAR 2 have ambient occlusion, which I've only seen in Crysis so far, so FEAR 2 wins in my book.
Ganesha43 3 years ago
not from my poit of view. I realy like the Fear 2 graphics but I do miss the shadows alot. I mena comeon its a horros survival shooter it needs a shadow.
Gameinggames 3 years ago
Look at it this way. FEAR 1 didn't have to deal with indirect lighting, true soft shadows (soft shadows in FEAR are a joke IMO), HDR, and a lot of the reflection/refraction shaders that FEAR 1. FEAR 1 can afford to give all of it's Dynamic lights hard shadows because A) there weren't very many lights per scene and B) there weren't as many lighting/shading algorithms vying for processor/GPU resources.
Ganesha43 3 years ago
This is purely a matter of taste and art style. From a technical standpoint, FEAR 2 has better shadows, and WAY better lighting.
Ganesha43 3 years ago
chirlakato and other stop arguing, seriously.
i mean, even though i was playing at max i didnt have my own shadow most of the time (almost never actually), period.
it doesnot matter if fear 2 has more shadows technically, since in practice i really didnt see much?!
midosi 3 years ago
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS VIDEO! You can't even say that the shadows in fear 2 are bad CAUSE THERE ARE NONE! For a 2009 fps, fear 2 has absolutely terrible graphics. I honestly think that the graphics in fear 1 are much better and more realistic. When i first played fear 2, i noticed the lack of shadows and i thought that my in-game settings were not being recognized. Boy was I wrong. I actually popped in fear 1 and compared like you did and came to the same conclusions. What a joke.
NaturalLife24 3 years ago
Fear 1 SEEMS to have more "dynamic shadows" because 1. It uses an old obsolete rendering method called STENCIL Shadows (seen in DOOM3 engine games which is very sharp and unrealistic shadows rendered from ONE light source only). 2. FEAR 2 utilizes A LOT more DYNAMIC LIGHTING than FEAR 1 so there's no need for those poor looking "dynamic shadows" of FEAR 1 since FEAR 1 NEEDED that to make up for the lack of HDR lighting quality. It also looks more realistic and closer to SOFT shadows IMHO.
chirlakato 3 years ago
I have to disagree there alot of scenes in Fear 2 that look extremly flat without the shadows. Especially the outdoor levels look very boring without shadows. And the fact that most enemys have no shadows at all makes the game look boring.
Gameinggames 3 years ago
chirlakato, well, mr. Smart Ass.
Go and google more. Stencil shadows could have as many lights as you want. As it was in DOOM3, as it is in FEAR 1.
There was "SOFT SHADOWS" option in FEAR1. Go figure that it does, kid.
PRERENDERED shadows won't look good any day. There are lots of good real time algorithms like in SC: Chaos theory , Crysis or Age Of Conan.
youdstube 3 years ago
You don't need to come on here all disrespectful and ignorant you fucking geek. First of all, I didn't say the ENGINE itself was INCAPABLE of either soft-shadows NOR a limitation on the amount of light sources, I just provided the evident for that ERA of coding when the game was programmed. Secondly, the "soft shadow" option wasn't DIRECTX 9's hardware-level of softshadowing, it was simply a shadow-doubling render which is clear when you look at it, which explains why that option KILLS FPS.
chirlakato 3 years ago
I liked the shadows of Fear 1 and even Fear 2 has em. For instance play the first level after you splitt up the first time with this girl you enter a room that supports the same shadows as fear 1. There are a couple of those lights in Fear 2...yet 90% of the light do not support any shadows at all. I mean just take a look at MP it looks so flat and boring...
Gameinggames 3 years ago
Yeah, i never said I dont' like either lol, I actually like the engine itself and respect it. But I agree, the shadows are definitely absent in FEAR 2 .....i guess the developers decided it looked too unprofessional compared to other games or just too reminiscent of FEAR 1 with those shadows...because the contrast of those shadows were just too dark and sharp but that's the type of shadows this engine renders it seems. Other than that the game still looks great!
chirlakato 3 years ago
I think it's more likely that had to make optimisations for the console release and didn't bother adding full shadows on the PC.
Almajo19 3 years ago
Yeah true but I rather have dark unrealistic shadows instead of none at all.
Gameinggames 3 years ago
haha, I feel you on that. I'm don't disagree with you at all, it's all preference. I'd like to see shadows still in conjunction with the updated engine....I still don't know why they left out the shadows altogether...I mean if they're gonna keep the PLAYER's shadow (which doesn't look half bad anyways despite the hardcut shadows)..then they might as well apply them to ALL objects lol.
chirlakato 3 years ago
They obviously removed them for performance reasons on the console, disproving their claim that they developed for each platform separate.
The PC which could handle dynamic lights on MAX (meaning everything) got the stick because they just copied the levels over from the xbox360 version and called it a day. Heck, they didn't even add any pc-specific features (bindable mouse keys etc.) its a 1:1 console port
Also, player shadows are not always active either
eRe4s3r 3 years ago
I agree with you to a certain point. However, due to the technology of the consoles (referring to PS3 and 360), they are MORE than capable of running the updated FEAR engine to the max with full shadows on. ...well atleast the 360 is capable, it has a tripple-core processor, an ATI modified card clocked at 550/1800 with shader model 3.5. If anything, they usually OPTIMIZE games specifically for consoles and this game only uses DirectX 9.
chirlakato 3 years ago
is that supposed to sound impressive? a triple core processor? give me a break, the technology in the 360 is over 3 years old... to me it's ridiculous that pc gamers are getting shafted because of the terrible 360 hardware, with maybe the exception of crysis. everything is optimized for this aging hardware, when in reality pcs are 4-5X as fast as these ancient pieces of shit.
mrwhiteman 3 years ago
You've just proved you ignorance from the first sentence in your statement because you obviously ignored the ENTIRED point of my reference to the 360. My POINT wasn't to try and make the 360 seem spectacular, I'm aware it's 3 years old. My POINT was to point out that FEAR 2 runs on the same engine that FEAR 1 did (which came out in 2006, only a year after it's launch), so it is capable of fullshadows.
chirlakato 3 years ago
Thirdly, WHEN did I state that "prerendered" shadows looked GOOD let alone better in a game period than a game WITH shadows? How about you re-evaluate my statements before being more ignorant than you are. Fourthly, there ARE no "pre-rendered" ANYTHING in FEAR 2's engine which BTW is a modification to the original games engine. It's ALL dynamic lighting, HIGH DYNAMIC range to exact and it's all REAL-TIME, so where you got the prerendered Idea, i dont' know.
chirlakato 3 years ago
SO since fear one has less details it means i should be able to play fear 2 if i could play fear 1 right?
hatoup095 3 years ago
Fire the shotgun in slowmotion in FEAR 1, and you'll notice even the ejected casing has a shadow.
f0xo9 3 years ago 2
hey stop attacking Gameinggames.. he's right! FEAR2 lacks in many areas that they should have already fixed! no dynamic shadows in a game in 2009? i have all graphics in maximun and i still got jagged edges in doors and fences! that sucks!
scider7 3 years ago 5