Anthony Quinton on Ludwig Wittgenstein: Section 2

[nickstout513]

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[philiphoward123]

Don't worry, many have foozled it before, and many will again.

[TheMetapragmatist]

The Metapragmatist was here.

[TheMetapragmatist]

The Metapragmatist was here.

[translipcorsia]

1:00  Sogar weiseste Menschen sich versprechen!

[thisizhegznogz]

why cant we have these sorts of programs nowadays.

[a5dr3]

The best is when it first begins to dawn on him that he's lost it and then how he puts his hand on his face and stares off as the camera cuts away. - I.... Man, that's funny stuff.

[hbar1212]

Wittgenstein may not have had the words. I think we do now. When you do math, you do it from the language mind. In doing philosophy, you have to do it in the visual mind, that is the intuitive one, if you want to see it, that is.

[Kitt0000]

Language is but a tool of communication. This is not to say that it dose not hold a large area of our existence, so its philosophy is still present.

[dirtmcgirt10]

Yes lets be clear about it and get foozled. The trouble is in thinking that the mind is a little man within.. stop the mind weighs what? What is this guy going on about meaning and what the hell is that.

[xpressivist]

Wittgenstein's theory of language in the Tractatus is so primitive. That's why in the end he concluded that it's senseless. We should turn to Chomsky, Fodor, and Pinker to learn a sensible and real knowledge about language and its acquisition for this generation and the next.

[bkishar]

I would have foozled too sitting in that room.

[UCIBME]

Don't worry professor Quinton, I foozle all the time. In fact, it's my middle name.

[Lopes472]

Professor Quinton seems to be in terrible pain like "Oh, God, I just can't get the picture of what I'm saying".

[Mangina9000]

This reminds me a lot of Buddhist phenomenology. I imagine in order to get any of this you have to spend a LOT of time by yourself thinking about what you're thinking about what you're thinking about etc. etc.

[Khimkharmakan]

Alistair Sim as Scrooge (1951). The Ghost of Foozle Past.

[blunthelloblunthello]

This is a problem that has plagued and continues to plague Western philosophy: making something difficult to understand that need not be made difficult to understand. Or in keeping with the theme of this discourse: the deliberate obfuscation of prose and/or verbal utterances as to effect a layer of obscurity whereby many fail to grasp what is being said and thus attribute great reverence to it, ipso facto.

[ajthrax1]

@blunthelloblunthello no dude u are the one that misunderstands. Everything in there made sense to me and all information was relevant. This entire debate stems from Godel's incompleteness theorem...

[blunthelloblunthello]

An easier way to understand Quinton's explanation at 3:30: Let's say you have 3 objects, one is a car (we will call this object "A"), the other is a bus (we will call this object "B"), and the other is a bike (we will call this object "C"), and you proceed to in your proposition (that is the stuff that comes out of your mouth) call object "A" a bike, object "B" a car, and object "C" a bus. That is a lie, or NOT a meaningful (i.e., truthful) proposition.

[leyley5678]

3:30-4:22. What th' HELL did he say?!!! WOW! This is philosophy's forte- murky ambiguity!!

[philosoisgrt]

lollll

[Shalashaska8636]

It seems like Quinton is very confused himself...its like he's reeling it off the top of his head!I swear he could just be making it up! Good stuff though!

[theinternetscholar]

if you haven't read Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus yet

Seven Main Propositions

1. The world is everything that is the case.

2. What is the case (a fact) is the existence of atomic states of affairs.

3. A thought is a logical picture of a fact.

4. A thought is a proposition with sense.

5. A proposition is a truth-function of elementary propositions.

6. The general form of a proposition is the general form of a truth function

7. Where (or of what) one cannot speak, one must remain silent.

[winterswinters]

Thanks so much for posting this series, flame0430. It's great to have the opportunity to watch these interviews at last.

Quinton is certainly not the first, and neither will be the last, to "foozle it" when trying to explain Wittgenstein's thinking. :)

[rngrdead]

"oh God, I've... sorry, I've foozled it" lol!

[PublicCommerce]

@rngrdead "You have foozled it for the last time Professor Quinton!"

[redetrigan]

prof. quinton constantly looks as though he is staring at the sun.

[HumanActivitySystem]

@redetrigan It's not so much that he is staring at the sun, so much as that he realizes that he is the sun, itself.

[rabmunch]

On what basis can a "theory of Language" describe "rules"? What legitimates that activity?

The making of these "rules" is simply arbitrary. What is worse: the tractatus must reject itself. The whole argument is also based on the absurd distinction between facts and values. The hidden thread points to Nietzsche, after whose attack on the traditions of "epistemology", all coherence became impossible. Only Strauss & Heidegger have faced this dilemma.

[GodlessPhilosopher]

i love it

[ExMachine]

Invaluable.