As my riding instructor said...these animals would still be in the wild if they weren't benificial to us. We originally hunted them for food..then someone(God bless them) said 'hey,we can make use of that animal for more than meat'. I do agree that abuses occur,and they're horrible..unspeakably so. I love my lesson horse,Jackson,and my instructor loves him and all the horses she owns. if they weren't useful,we wouldn't know the joy of having them in our lives.
@MaizieandMindy Maybe not to all, but to entirely too many. Thousands of horses are euthanized on racetracks every year. Few get the attention and publicity of horses like Barbaro and Eight Belles
@MaizieandMindy I agree that these horses love to run. But please explain to me what happens to the thousands horses that are not fast enough for the racing industry?
@MaxD3 i can not speak for all the horses but i have been a jockey for 6 years and there have been about 8 hourses that i have trained that were not fast enough and they go to familyies that love horses and to a couple of ranches that take on horses so they can have a good life just riding now yes some do go to slaughter but it's a small % and in all my 6 yearts and about 240 races never have seen a horse get hurt they are checked out by a vet before each race
I went to look at a 3 Year Old Ex racer in the hope he had Dressage/Eventing potential. Unfortunately he didn't catch my eye, like another had, and so I didn't take him. He was sound. He was sane. And yet 3 weeks later I was informed he had gone to the local Zoo.
It's heartbreaking. More people should be taking on OTTB's.
I wish we could stop the breeding and racing all together, but that will never happen. We need to be realistic and simply do what we can.
True the racing industry does provide the best care for there horses. But I must say in some of the owners defence and jockeys that they do care and it does hurt for them to loose an animal this way. The jockey much like the horse risks his very life everytime he gets on to ride. They are not all heartless and it is not just another race to some.
Hi, I have to agree that race horses should be started at a later age not at two. I also believe that horses should only be breed once every two years or more. I noticed that the fact is that it is the legs that keep breaking down mostly. So why not go back to big feet short canon bones and a better runner by natural means. Legal enhancement drugs don't help either. Why not try no shoes so that the horses are actully running with great circulation in the legs.
continued - have you taken in the fact that racehorses are treated like kings, they have the best medical attention, love and care and the fact that if a horse didn't want to race it wouldn't - simple as no amount of whipping etc. can force half a tonne of animal to race.
i completely understand where your coming from, i don't like alot of the truths of racing either but i have to say the majority of horses you have listed are ones raced in America (not meaning to offend anyone) but racing in America is hugely different and i hate to say it much more cruel because of the way it's run and the rules etc. roughly 900 horses die on the track in America and 300 in the UK.
I worked with racehorses at racetrack and every single of them wanted to compete. If they didn't, noone forsed them to. If anyone suppered an injury he was cured. I don't understand the furry of some organizations. Why they hate races so badly? Becouse everything is on tv? or there is lot of money they want? or becouse when horses dies in stable noone care, these horses are worthless to wwf, peta etc.
@funnyhorsey I never once said that racing should be banned or stopped all together - only CHANGED. Significant changes, and racing would be a different - safer- sport for all involved.
I got an tb off the race track ...and he is the best horse i have had . It makes me think if he didnt race what he would be today. it always amazes me what happens to these gentle giants. No one really knows what does happen to them unless you are a horse back rider.
And btw, these horses don't die fro this. They're doing what they love. My horse could die from barrel racing, or even a simple trail ride. You even had a horse in the video that died from breaking a leg on his way tohis paddock. That could happen to any horse! Theres nothing special about these horse's deaths.
Two of the big problems basically in U.S. racing: Drugs(which they are currently working on/salix, steroids, and they way the horses are bred and trained. Not sure about Europe but some of the ways some of the farms train their horses are better-imo.
Horse racing is crueltly at the end of the day.. We would never be forced to do a sport that would kill over 370 in the uk? and more elsewhere?! so what is the difference.. there horses they dont have a say. I will never stop fighting against this.. Thankyou for this video :) x
When it all becomes about profit, and not the love of horses, things go wrong. Barbaro's owner's did everything they could to save him... in the case of Eight Belles, trainer Larry Jones retired or quit for over a year after her death because of the distress it caused him.
Horses like Zenyatta are coddled at age 2.. racing only enough to get the needed stakes earnings.
What is the answer?... maybe make it harder for owners. There need to be stricter rules on who is allowed in the game.
I hope you realize that they are making great ammends, to make racing drug free. Only lasix is legal; so no, they aren't "doped up." And, eight belles injuries were due to her heart attack, which caused her to nail the ground.
I think the question is, what can be done to make racing safer. I had a horse for many, many years at the same barn, and next to colic, the biggest killer was broken legs. However, none of those horses broke their legs while being ridden. They were all pasture accidents. So what's to do, wrap the horses in cotton and keep them in their stalls? That's no life either. Horses are ridiculously big animals on ridiculously thin legs. Find ways to make racing safer - that's the best option.
@catalinda8 - Not entirely true. TB's are fragile as hell. Combined with the age they are raced, the result is obvious!!! They never get the chance to grow up strong :( And it's not that difficult to fix either, a change at the regulations regarding entry age, and a slight turn in breeding towards stronger feet, I believe accidents will drop significantly.
I want to say thanks,because well i love horses and love racing but theres 2 different ways to race, the right way or the wrong way, this video shows the concequences of racing a horse the wrong way. Today most people are into therobreeds for a reson, MONEY! not the horse. what happends They race them too young, they pump them up on every kind of crap used and they only think the horse is usefull till its 4 years old at the most then,they put them down only a few lucky ones get homes.
horses are strong animals and if they did not wanto run they wouldnt it is tragic that this happins this is soo soo horible but i have to say it life and not all of them die it is not just horse racing that this happins so i find it unfair to target them at least the horses have an great quality of life and are taken care of at a high quality unlike most horses whu are traded cheap to people who dont have a clue and eithe starve to death or are treated so badly they live tru tourture
While I agree that drugs should be banned from this sport, there's one drug, Lasix, which is used for medical purposes, more specifically to help prevent bleeding in a horse's lungs. Steriods are already banned in racing in the US, but the fact is, thoroughbreds WILL break down. Sometimes they just take a bad step or it was just a freak accident. There are some things in this sport that should be banned completely, but the whole banning whips thing I have mixed feelings about.
Just a fact and not being rude but Barbaro DID take a bad step because it happens sometimes,just like if you or me took a bad step out side and he was given the best care and only put down after they knew life for him wouldn't be worth living anymore. There are things that do need to be changed(personally i think on the weight system) But its like you said we all say what we do about this for the love of the horses. :)
Racehorses are trained young because if you wait until they are older, fully developed skeletally, they will be at a much higher risk of lameness or injury. That's the fact of it. I'm sick of hearing people say that it's cruel when it actually helps them.
Wow I see what you mean. Walking to a paddock is really animal cruelty! NO horses should be allowed to do anything WHAT SO EVER because it is ALL dangerous...
I would like to ask a simple question. What does a horse do when you are trying to make them do something they don't want to??
Because if people like you aren't blind, then you would know.
@ConsistantlyRandom21 i dont know bout curlin but brown was doped up dutro even admitted it id say zenyatta was prob the only horse or one of the only horses not doped up just on oats nd hay
I wonder how many of these horses can be traced back to Native Dancer? I know of three for sure, Barbaro, Ruffian, Eight Belles. But I'm pretty sure Ginforthewin and Go For Wand can be too. Probably the majority of them. Bad genes and soft bones are a receipe for disaster. They really need to open the stud book. These horses are so inbred it's rediculous. Over a 100 years is too long to go with out new blood. Didn't we learn anything from the royal families in the past? Surely the sport of Kings
You can see the pain on the people's faces while they watch the horses suffering, you can see it is an accident. My horse could die on a hack breaking a leg in a rabbit hole but does that mean just school all the time? Accidents happen. Equine sports has the highest death rate cos loads of people participate, racing has a high death rate because lots of horses participate. Yes i would prefer they didn't die, i love horses especially my ex racer but i love racing too
@MaxD3 A lot of the horses that die on the track are older, the 2 year olds just do flat, yes they should raise the age i agree, i hate seeing the babies racing. But most the deaths occur in steeple chasing and hurdling which has older mature horses participating, just accidents. Horses die in all equine sports.
The racing world has a cruel back side to their stables, yes, however,breaking bones is inevitable. You can't always immediately tell that something has happened until its too late. It depends on the placement and how their running style bases their weight to determine how badly they will be affected immediately. Most of these horses are put down on the track which is the best thing, being that its unnatural to keep such a large animal whom is genetically designed to run etc alive, is cruel yes.
horses do, but I've seen 2-3 year old reiners that are just fine. I've even met an ex reiner that was started as a yearling and is almost 20 that is just fine. Its all in the horse, and the conditions it is met in. Most of the tragedies in the industries are simply accidents. I'm not saying there isn't bad in the racing industry, but there is bad everywhere. Baseball for example. That is simply riddled with bad, yet I don't hear anyone clamoring to ban that.
And in reference to the youth, my now 3 year old QH was practically born running. Even at a few months of age he would spend most of his time either running, eating or napping. As he got older, it became more running. It what he loves, its what he does. He has no physical issues from the amount of time he spent running as a colt, has no issues now. He even used to spend a lot of time running and jumping the ditch that was in one of the pastures. Sure, he didn't put the work in that the race...
@stripeofamber When did I say ban horse racing? I only said that changes need to happen. Secondly, a young horse running for their own enjoyment is entirely different than a horse being put through strenuous training and being pumped full of who knows what drugs to hide any pain they may be having in the first place
@MaxD3 You didn't. Multiple other people on here have.
But many young horses do go through strenuous training and still do fine. I will totally agree on the drugs thing. They need to be banned from everything, not just horse sports. But the amount of people doping the horses isn't actually that huge... Most places if they test your horse and its doped, you are disqualified and a lot of the time banned from the sport for a certain time period. Don't go around saying everyone's doing it and...
@MaxD3 .. okay with it. Its a few nasty people, and the majority of horse owners/trainers wouldn't dream of doing that to their animals. Don't paint everyone with the mud of a few. For me, even if it meant the chance at winning I wouldn't go that far. But some people don't have those morals, and they are who give the rest of us the bad name. That's incorrect and very prejudiced to do so.
@MaxD3 Changes need to happen? THey are. CA has set the standard and require polytrack. Not much difference, time will tell, fact is horseracing is NOT the only sport that starts them young. Ever heard of a Cutting Horse??? They are started at 2yo, and barrel horses, and reiners. What about stadium or show jumping? Have you swept those accidents under the rug? Dressage horses break down so do 3 day eventers. There is NOT a horse related sport where there is NO risk.
@SHELLMADDE Lol. It doesn't even have to be a horse related sport. I've sen them break down just pleasure riding. Horse stepped in a hole, and it was over.
(This isn't aimed at yeu, SHELL, just a general statement)
The fact is that this whole life and all the living things are at risk for injury. That is the way the world is. The horses in the wild are just as likely to die (actually more so) that a racing thoroughbred.
@stripeofamber Your "now 3 year old" QH ??? your let your horse run at his own desire, look at his soundness at 3, and compare it to what a TB (made to run with a rider to build fitness from 18mos) would look like at 10 or 12, when they could be in their prime for other events like jumping or dressage??? There is no comparison there... sorry. The wear and tear of a hard life might not show up till a horses middle years.
Some of these comments here just make me laugh. Ban horse racing? Well thats one rather ridiculous thing to say. Are you going to offer a home for all those race horses that no longer have any value? Are you going to take care of them all so they don't go to slaughter? Where will the money come from? Slaughter is a reality, there really are no other options, other than starvation. There simply put, are not enough homes for all the horses in this world.
@cupcakeGGandMM These horses are insured. Yes, many owners really do care about their horses but to most, if the horses die on the track, its no big deal. And I don't believe the "bad step" BS - horses that are trained to and start racing at TWO years old break down because they are started too young and worked too vigorously for their weak skeletal systems that they have at that age. I guarantee you if owners waited to train their horses one more year, there would be substantially less injuries
The footage of ruffian always had turned my stomach - even the movie they did of her watching her leg break there, then the actual footage of it just sends a chill down my spine.
going to the races. I know many many people in the racing industry and it is not cruel. I've seen behind the scene stuff with my own eyes and not at all was anything cruel. I love riding horses too, I've been around horses all my life. I'm even starting to event soon. Every sport is dangerous guys, but you should respect it. Racing is a sport and it is not dangerous. I thing what we should be more worried about is the dickheads who abuse and neglect animals. Not a sport that is NOT cruel. :)
dangerous. Don't just hate on racing. It is not cruel. Horses love to run - would you rather them sitting in a paddock all day? Or sitting in a stall not doing anything? Or getting looked after well and raced. These horses are fit and healthy. If they weren't, they wouldn't be allowed to race. Simple. Then theres the slaughter thing. This is due to dumb people who breed shit horses that don't do well. It isn't racings fault? I love and respect every horse sport because it is NOT cruel. I enjoy
Okay. So I don't agree with horses being trained to race at what, 1? and being raced at 2. That isn't right. Steeplechasing isn't too flash either. But I love racing and it is really offensive when people go around saying its cruel, but really, they don't know what they're talking about. Racing is a sport - respect it! It is just like eventing, polo, show jumping etc. I know plenty of horses who have had to be shot due to accidents in show jumping & cross country. Anything to do with horses is
well done on the video! .. there isnt anything good about this sport . .. to all those race lovers out there wat are some facts that racing is good ... u "bag" activist but u dont have evidence to proove its not cruel ... give some evidence to back up ur statement thanls mate
Thats nice. A video obituary of race horses. Race horse owners doent love their horses the way a child does? Im gonna barf again. A child does not know how to care for a horse or even appreciate it. sally's little pony that sits in the pen not regularily fed or provided vet care and in many cases left to die.
Geez another dumb video. Excuse my I just barfed in my mouth.
The fact is the only reason a thoroughbred even exists is to perform. Years ago horses were bred to use in War, Fox Hunting & Racing. The only reason people get to enjoy their beauty is because of the breeding and care owners put into them. The problem is horse owners who keep them as pets . Lets see a video on that instead of this copy and paste with music..
Racehorses have the will to race bred into them, they are a herd animal in the wild and race against one another for fun. The truth is, we don't force the animal to do anything they don't want to already do. Racehorses are cared for by extremely dedicated caretakers who provide the best passible maintenance. I'm sorry you feel so strongly against horse racing but you need to know exactly what goes on in the sport to truly understand. Pleasure horses have heart attacks and colic too.
I agree. Horse racing is cruelty. Horses shouldnt be started under saddle until they are at least 2, maybe 2 and a half in my opinion. There legs just arent developed enough to take that stress. And it makes me mad that horses that just arent good at racing usually end up going to slaughter. They could have been some ones jumper, trail horse, barrel horse, or any thing. But yet, they still go to slaughter. Thanks for posting this video. :)
@BarrelRacer955 I have a foundered gelding that my parents wanted to sell, but i wouldnt let them because he would most likley end up going to slaughter. Hes the sweetest horse ever, hes just very shy, and foundered. But he is now doing well and is recovering from regular trimmings.
i have 3 OTTB's in my paddock,,, they are all loved and very cherrisded,,, a far cry from the industry they left behind,,, i even rescued one guy with a massive radial carpul slab fracture in both knees,,,, he has had surgery ,with screws holding his bones together,and now lives his life as a paddock mate,,, being occassionly ridden n loved very much .... my boys are very lucky...
make a video when u actually know what goes on in our sport! racehorses are treated like royalty they are better looked after than us riders and stable staff. so go and work in racing for a while before u start making fucking videos like this u complete and utter cunt!
Horses break bones in strenuous activity just like humans do while playing sports or in accidents. It is part of life. It just so happens that when a horse breaks a bone in a leg(s) it is better to go ahead and euthanize them because of the enormous amount of weight they must place on each limb. They tried to save Barbaro and healed his one leg but because he could not place adequate pressure on it. The other leg began to founder which means the coffin bone was ripping away from the hoof wall.
Horses break bones in strenuous activity just like humans do while playing sports or in accidents. It is part of life. It just so happens that when a horse breaks a bone in a leg(s) it is better to go ahead and euthanize them because of the enormous amount of weight they must place on each limb. They tried to save Barbaro and healed his one leg but because he could not place adequate pressure on it. The other leg began to founder which means the coffin bone was ripping away from the hoof wall.
as u said, some horses arnt made fast, and y cant they not race if they don't want to, its horibble and i totally agree with koalabby, y cant we race them as two friends, y cant there be levels...i ant explain what i want to say
/why can't we race them as if two friends were racing out in some field?/
The drugs need to go, but I'm pretty sure athletes would use them too.
Whipping? You know, some jockeys don't /whip/ their horse. they show them the whip. There's a difference. They tell the horse that the race isn't over yet, they still have a chance.
Whipping is the equivalent of shouts from your friends and family. Hearing people cheering for me helped me pull through in track.
@MaxD3 well up whips dont cause welts on their skin well in some cases but they are like shouts they dont hurt the horse ive seen a horse get kicked in the head by another horse and not even be phased it didnt act as it hurt but the drugs do need to go they weaken the tendons and destroy cartalage
this is so sad ,I have an ex race horse called CLEARLY OSCAR i love him to bits he broke his knee hurdling ,he had it repaired and the was just left out to recover , when i got him he was so thin ,he is the most amazing nautured horse i have ever owned ,now hacking about and loving it ,he has a 2nd chance ,and will remain with me till then end ,thanks for posting this as it needs to be known how some people treat there race horses ! not all but some !
Regarding what you said about Barbaro, why were quotes around bad step? It could've happened to any horse anywhere. Also, his owners loved him. They knew he'd never race again, but they were fighting terribly to save him.
HORSE RACING ISNT CRUEL!! they dont have to euthenize them...they could save them. yes it take patience and time and maybe a little money. but to save a life i would give all tht and more. all you show is the bad times in racing. these horses are BRED for this amazing sport.
I know, if they raced horses at the age of 5 or 6 these horses would be faster and happy with less break downs. Horse should not be ran hard for the first year under saddle. My trainer will not let you canter a horse till they are over 5, They are not ready. so to race at 2!?! I think most of the race horses are taken care of well.
accidents ahppen in any event- often its people's fault- some peopel are good trainers and riders and others arent and bad people can ruin horses and make anything dangerous
Just wanted to say that I love the message of your video. Not only are the injured ones disposed of, but the ones that aren't quite fast enough. I work at a rescue farm and so many of our horses are OTTB's, starving and abandoned. Some were raced so hard they blew out their knee's or fractured bones in their legs. I know not all race horse owners treat their horses so poorly, but the nature of the industry causes so many horses to suffer.
You put Barbaro in there and I know his owners really did love him. They knew that if he lived he would never be able tor ace again but they tried to keep him alive and fix his leg.
@ Azzawakhe a whip is an aid and a reminder i do know about this cause my friend is a teacher i haven't been riding long but i no it is a reminder so u want this to go further that's fine but all this is true........ all tbs are broken in very young and then they qualify 20% of them it sucks so if u don't know anything about regular riding LEARN now is the time that u stop your nasty comments the trainers dont train them for the gates most horses are hard to get into the gates
These "freak accidents" are too common to be called "freak." Do the math people, a young/under-developed horse + taking a major risk = an increased chance for a disaster. There is absolutely no way do disprove that and I challenge anyone who claims otherwise.
It doesn't show that the race itself is bad, it's the breeders and the buyers that need to change. They are breeding for fast horses, not sound horses. So in turn, you get a fast horse that is weak. If they started breeding for soundness, and strong horses, then most of those accidents would be reduced. I like racing, in the hands of the right people, most horses live a really good life, but in the hands of greedy people, the horses suffer.
that is cruel i hate racing i lovce horses but i hate racing a whip is an aid as a reminder of whos in charge not to make the horses go faster i hate that one sport racing imagin wat would happen to other racers my friend works a a racing stable and she was GIVEN a horse cause she wasnt fast enought for the owner and trainer so she was raced five times wen she was 2 and once wen she was three then she was given awayy i hate racing
@silverthearab A whip is NOT a reminder of who´s in charge, it´s used to enhance leg aids when needed. If you are going to bash the sport, don´t display your lack of knowledge, it will only make you look stupid.
yes some people use drugs but they are not suppose to, and whips are not cruel I use a whip to help teach my horse to stop so he doesn't plow his face into the ground but I am not cruel about, and everybody who thinks racing is cruel stop plastering the whole sport as cruel because that calls people like my parents and there friends cruel. I like the song choices though they are very good songs
How many horse die by the hands of ignorant people who own non-sport horses? Race horses are very well taken care of by professionals everyday. Accidents happen in racing as well as by starved farm horses and horses injured by neglect or from jumping and trail riding and colic from improper care or starvation. Race horses are very valuable and are in professional hand everyday with 24/7 on call vet. Think about that. Hobby horse deaths don't make the news.
Horses dying in other situations doesn't justify these ones being raced to death. It's a shallow and opressive industry and the public have a right to know about it.
@crockjock how does the fact that other non-sport horses die at the hands of ignorant people make it ok that race horses die from "educated" professionals who 1) over breed 2) start racers too young 3) work racers too hard 4) often keep the horses enclosed in a stall for too long 5) often give the horses drugs for pain and still race them and/or give them performance drugs not allowed in other equine sports? not a sport, cruelty.
propaganda crap!! I'm sorry you disagree with racing so much. I take your point but you are being a bit unfair counting deaths at home exercising and heartattacks, they could happen to any horse not just racers. Racehorses are bred for that purpose its callous but true. And sadly accidents happen as in all sport. Your facts and quotes are incorrect try doing some research before putting such over dramatic drivel on show.
My facts and quotes are directly quoted from racetrack owners, racehorse owners, and jockeys. The ONLY thing I said in this video that is not a direct quote is that the horses love to run and wouldn't if they didn't want to but that is because EVERYONE has said that. We are using these animals and drugging them up to be beneficial to our pockets, only to dispose of them unless they win numerous big-name races. In which case they become a "hero" and given the life of luxury.
your facts may or may not be true, but you are still suggesting racing is to blame for horses having heart attacks. You say we are using these horses to make money, yes we are thats what they are bred for, if we weren't using them for that then they wouldn't be here at all. and then what would you have to protest against? And what about all the happy endings? your stats only show a % of all racehorses, what about the rest? such as my ex racer living a happy and full life?
@MaxD3, you said, "they are treated like kings, even loved, but only for the money they make their owners."
Gotta call ya on that one, Max! That's not a Truth!
Training a horse at one year of age is cruelty. There is nothing you can say that will change my mind."
I'm a retired jockey, still work in the industry, & have been for more than 40 yrs. & I know of no trainer who does this! I'm not sure where ya get your info, but this is fiction, Max! Not a Truth!
Since these are supposed "racing industry truths",... why haven't you just stated truths, & left out your own slant?
ie: "Emmanellie, suffered a heart attack during a race."
And your point in including her? To educate those who didn't know horses get heart attacks too, same as ppl do?
If not,... That's like sayin' "since many people die in hospitals, every day, that must mean, the Dr's. are no good, ...or that the deaths should be blamed on the entire Medical profession!" Isn't it?
@2010MissCooper I think you missed the point I was trying to make, clearly too busy lowering yourself to immature name calling. I think its quite obvious you have no concept whatsover of what goes on in the world of racing or probably any sort of horseriding ( dont get horses in da ghetto) You like many others have jumped on the we hate racing bandwagon with no clue at all of real life. Racing is a risk sport, enjoyed by millions and a billion pound industry, its going nowhere, GET OVER IT!!!
@barrythepie Yes, but everyone has the rights to disagree with it. Why do people get so stuck-up & obnoxious just because where i live & what my speach is like. If you dont like people underyou then fuck off!
Every industry is a billion pound industrys. That does not mean everyone has to stay quiet & agree, Are you stupid or retarded?
@2010MissCooper oh dear I am seriously struggling to see the point you are trying to make are you genuinely interested in the plight of racehorses or is this just an excuse to prove how childish and rude you can be? you say its unfair how people make judgements on you based on where you come from, well unfortunately you are doing a very good job confirming it by acting like a silly little girl unable to make valid points based on experience or well informed judgement.
I'm neither stupid nor retarded.GROW UP! I dont agree with MAXD3 so what? I just wanted to add my thoughts about the subject. Thankfully I am mature enough to do so without the need to resort to the use of bad language and petty insults. Please stop replying unless you have something constructive to add at least get your spelling right...
What about all the (equivalent physical development levels) poor human kids who get broken legs and arms in school sports. Sports in school is an unnecessary risk of injury. i broke my back running track, damnit. I hate them making kids play football and bitching when the kid gets hurt or like me deformed and disabled for life. But no they won't shoot ME I have another 40 stinking years to SUFFER.
I have been told that just because a horse has to be vanned off after a race doesn't mean it's broken down..it may just mean that something's amiss and the jockey wants to be on the safe side
God, people, grow up. Did you know that people can break a leg just walking, taking a bad step? So can horses. Some horses just start tearing around a pasture, and break a leg. Know what I call it? A FREAK ACCIDENT. Okay? This is gonna happen sometimes. Deal with it. Racing IS NOT EVIL. Just watch a video of Zenyattta. Does she not look overjoyed to be running? Get back to me on this, or people, answer! Horse racing isn't abuse. Deal with it.
@Azzawakhe, Yeah, when her big floppy ears go up, she's grinning all the way to the finish line. People need to understand that freak accidents can happen any day, at any time, in any sport. It's sad, but it's the truth.
I recently saved an off track mare who was bow-wrapped and then raced after the tendon bowed. I have worked with race horses long enough to know that they love to work and to run. My mare still thinks she is going to the track when we load her up in the trailer, she gets very excited, I often have to use a nose chain on her just to take her out to her paddock. She went from lame racehorse to beautiful show jumper.
Like it or not horses are designed to run yes there are accident's in racing but there are also many accident's in all other disciplines. An if you've never spoken to a wide variety of jockeys and owners you don't know whether they love them or not, in my opinion they do. But its your opinion. If horse didn't love to race, they wouldn't do it. Simple
So are many horses, most go to loving homes, my friend bought one privately, not through auction, from someone who was sad to see him go. I just think that there are many many other cruel things going on in the world than racing. How about neglect? horses found with over grown hooves, skinny and unloved, no water sometimes tied up so tightly their face's cut. Racehorses are looked after like kings, Best food, rugs, treatment everything. yes accident's happen but thats what they are accidents.
A two year old breaking down in their first race is no accident...it can be avoided by letting them mature before working them so strenuously. And of course there are many other bad things happening in this world. But this video is about racing, nothing else.
I agree horses shouldn't be broken in till there 4,and accident means sumthin not done on purpose they didnt have their legs broken just for the fun of it!? I dont agree with some racing aspects, but I wouldnt critisize it unles I had knew the sport wel, No 1 knows whts goin on in a jockey/owners mind if a horse they loved died underneath them. I highly doubt they were just annoyed they didn't win! i know this videos on racing my point was racing isnt as bad as somethings being done to horses
i agree that the 2yr olds should wait a while or just simply take it nice and slow but horses are built the way they are to run and they love to do it
Most horses start there race training at 3 years old. If a horse has strong blood it will be trained lighty at 2 and send to a few 2 year old races two year old races are always short with not much pressure and not many horses.
Dont you think if a owner paid for the horse he is going to give them the best home he can
@MaxD3 Now you're starting to make me angry, Max! This comment of yours is insinuating that those who race their 2 YO's are doing it as a Blood Sport! How can you sit there so cavalier, and say that a 2 YO breaking down in the first place, is no accident? You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such a thing! If it's not an accident, then you're suggesting that these trainers are breaking them down,.... on purpose? You should offer an apology for making such a rotten statement! NOT TRUTH!
What is with these peoples logic? "there are other bad things happening in the world so lets not think or talk about ANY OF THEM" lol what do they think is an okay thing to protest about? it's gotta be about humans right? Because animals simply dont matter to these people. Most horses do not enjoy racing, as its unnatural and causes them severe health problems. Then when their time is up they go to auction n guess who's there? PET FOOD COMPANIES.
it causes NO health problems no more health problem than any hack is going to get.you cant say that when you havent been backstage to the racing stables they get the BEST treatment you could give your horse
I never said the horses don't like to race. What I am saying is this industry only keeps the horses that are FAST enough for them. Do you have any idea how many Thoroughbreds are born every year and how many actually make it to stardom? What happens to the rest of them?
i agree not all of them get rehomed but how many people do you know of who have a ex thoroughbred racehorse i think every 2nd person has one of them
sure some dont make it to a new home but not just racehorses get that many no good showjumpers,dressage horses etc also get this.
have you heard of anky van grunsven she is a "good dressage rider" but she over flecs her horses which is very bad for there poll and back which can lead to problems later in their life
@all4pharlap most horses love racing actually but there a few who hate it adn are good at it... if they dont run they get whipped if they buck or rear they get whipped... adn most likely set to be slaughtered would you rather take your chance in racing and maybe or maybe not die... or be one of the horses who try to say no and buck there rider off and get sent to be slaughtered?? thats how things are..
Well DressageRider454, horses that do dressage dont deserve to be in a constant overbent position with a double bridle jamming their head down and having spurs jabbed into them either. And the wastage rate for dressage horses is appalling. So perhaps look into your own backyard.
ok explain why barbaro got injured while coming out the gate but he kept going because he loved to run as soon as the jockey saw something was wrong about 5 seconds after they started he pulled him up and cried because barbaro was injured that proves horses love to run and people care so much about them
no horse is pushed to do anything horses are a 1000kg animal they are not going to be told what to do by a person who is 56kg
dressage riders don't DIG their spurs into their horses, they barely even use them. And at least dressage riders don't whip their horses all over the track, or run them to their deaths! and what these horses are doing is called going ROUND, and the horses like it. It stretches out their back muscles and is very good for them. Futhermore the moves practiced in the dressage arena were once used in war, where they were crucial. So don't go badmouthing MY sport when you have nothing to back it up!!!
have you even though that dressage horses having there horses wayy to much on the bit is very bad for there back.
Horses were born to run dont you think it is better them out there stretching there legs doing something they love doing rather than stuck in a stable all day like some horses are.Racehorses are kept the best out of any horses in the world they get heaps of stable room and a very big whole paddock 2 themself
what makes u think that dressage horses are over flexed? Cuz when they put their heads like that and stretch ther back muscles out, it feels realy good 4 them.if it WAS bad for the horses, why do you think that Brentina was competing to her 20's? Racehorses are kept inside up to 22 hrs/day,not outside.we have a retired racehorse at our barn & she is always in alot of pain from runing, w/ bowed tendon, weaves, is lame, has a bad back.we started on dressage with her ans she is ALOT better now.
well i got a young thorouhbred whch was dressage horse for about a year or two developed a very bad back and really bad poll because of his head pushed so hard down
you are wrong about the racehorses being kept outside all racehorse owners i know have there horses in a warm very large stable at night and a big paddock to themselves in the morning :) they get brushed everyday and bathed some even have a vet stay with them overnight
This is sick and sad, Yes Horses love to run, but I am sure they wouldnt chose a race track.
sillysyl76 22 hours ago
As my riding instructor said...these animals would still be in the wild if they weren't benificial to us. We originally hunted them for food..then someone(God bless them) said 'hey,we can make use of that animal for more than meat'. I do agree that abuses occur,and they're horrible..unspeakably so. I love my lesson horse,Jackson,and my instructor loves him and all the horses she owns. if they weren't useful,we wouldn't know the joy of having them in our lives.
proud2bpagan 3 days ago
@MaizieandMindy Maybe not to all, but to entirely too many. Thousands of horses are euthanized on racetracks every year. Few get the attention and publicity of horses like Barbaro and Eight Belles
k9rezq 1 week ago
also PETA murders innocent animals. P.eople E.uthanizing T.ame A.nimals
TaliMustang 1 week ago
note the injuries: thoroughbreds are suseptible to these injuries due to thin legs and high strung temperments. blame the breeders not the races.
TaliMustang 1 week ago
@MaizieandMindy I agree that these horses love to run. But please explain to me what happens to the thousands horses that are not fast enough for the racing industry?
MaxD3 1 month ago
@MaxD3 i can not speak for all the horses but i have been a jockey for 6 years and there have been about 8 hourses that i have trained that were not fast enough and they go to familyies that love horses and to a couple of ranches that take on horses so they can have a good life just riding now yes some do go to slaughter but it's a small % and in all my 6 yearts and about 240 races never have seen a horse get hurt they are checked out by a vet before each race
MrGooseNtrigger 1 month ago
@MaxD3 They're sold to the slaughterhouse of course.
k9rezq 1 week ago
I went to look at a 3 Year Old Ex racer in the hope he had Dressage/Eventing potential. Unfortunately he didn't catch my eye, like another had, and so I didn't take him. He was sound. He was sane. And yet 3 weeks later I was informed he had gone to the local Zoo.
It's heartbreaking. More people should be taking on OTTB's.
I wish we could stop the breeding and racing all together, but that will never happen. We need to be realistic and simply do what we can.
Lillable1 2 months ago
True the racing industry does provide the best care for there horses. But I must say in some of the owners defence and jockeys that they do care and it does hurt for them to loose an animal this way. The jockey much like the horse risks his very life everytime he gets on to ride. They are not all heartless and it is not just another race to some.
hannahyland1 2 months ago
Hi, I have to agree that race horses should be started at a later age not at two. I also believe that horses should only be breed once every two years or more. I noticed that the fact is that it is the legs that keep breaking down mostly. So why not go back to big feet short canon bones and a better runner by natural means. Legal enhancement drugs don't help either. Why not try no shoes so that the horses are actully running with great circulation in the legs.
hannahyland1 2 months ago
continued - have you taken in the fact that racehorses are treated like kings, they have the best medical attention, love and care and the fact that if a horse didn't want to race it wouldn't - simple as no amount of whipping etc. can force half a tonne of animal to race.
katherinepennels123 2 months ago
i completely understand where your coming from, i don't like alot of the truths of racing either but i have to say the majority of horses you have listed are ones raced in America (not meaning to offend anyone) but racing in America is hugely different and i hate to say it much more cruel because of the way it's run and the rules etc. roughly 900 horses die on the track in America and 300 in the UK.
katherinepennels123 2 months ago
I worked with racehorses at racetrack and every single of them wanted to compete. If they didn't, noone forsed them to. If anyone suppered an injury he was cured. I don't understand the furry of some organizations. Why they hate races so badly? Becouse everything is on tv? or there is lot of money they want? or becouse when horses dies in stable noone care, these horses are worthless to wwf, peta etc.
Falka89 3 months ago
wait......so if i lead a horse to a paddock and he gets injured i am being cruel
salley400 4 months ago
@funnyhorsey I never once said that racing should be banned or stopped all together - only CHANGED. Significant changes, and racing would be a different - safer- sport for all involved.
MaxD3 5 months ago
I got an tb off the race track ...and he is the best horse i have had . It makes me think if he didnt race what he would be today. it always amazes me what happens to these gentle giants. No one really knows what does happen to them unless you are a horse back rider.
bstucker 6 months ago
And btw, these horses don't die fro this. They're doing what they love. My horse could die from barrel racing, or even a simple trail ride. You even had a horse in the video that died from breaking a leg on his way tohis paddock. That could happen to any horse! Theres nothing special about these horse's deaths.
weedluvertou 6 months ago
It is upsetting, but I almost broke down when I saw Lauren's Charm. My name is Lauren... I wish I culd have met that horse!
weedluvertou 6 months ago
Two of the big problems basically in U.S. racing: Drugs(which they are currently working on/salix, steroids, and they way the horses are bred and trained. Not sure about Europe but some of the ways some of the farms train their horses are better-imo.
21Sarabi 6 months ago
i only knew one big race horse there died old secratariet
SJBruun 7 months ago in playlist Horse vids!!!
Horse racing is crueltly at the end of the day.. We would never be forced to do a sport that would kill over 370 in the uk? and more elsewhere?! so what is the difference.. there horses they dont have a say. I will never stop fighting against this.. Thankyou for this video :) x
myhorses4ever 7 months ago
When it all becomes about profit, and not the love of horses, things go wrong. Barbaro's owner's did everything they could to save him... in the case of Eight Belles, trainer Larry Jones retired or quit for over a year after her death because of the distress it caused him.
Horses like Zenyatta are coddled at age 2.. racing only enough to get the needed stakes earnings.
What is the answer?... maybe make it harder for owners. There need to be stricter rules on who is allowed in the game.
dravenousone 8 months ago
I hope you realize that they are making great ammends, to make racing drug free. Only lasix is legal; so no, they aren't "doped up." And, eight belles injuries were due to her heart attack, which caused her to nail the ground.
jeremyrosefan 8 months ago
I hope you realize that they are making great ammends, to make racing drug free. Only lasix is legal.
jeremyrosefan 8 months ago
I think the question is, what can be done to make racing safer. I had a horse for many, many years at the same barn, and next to colic, the biggest killer was broken legs. However, none of those horses broke their legs while being ridden. They were all pasture accidents. So what's to do, wrap the horses in cotton and keep them in their stalls? That's no life either. Horses are ridiculously big animals on ridiculously thin legs. Find ways to make racing safer - that's the best option.
catalinda8 10 months ago
@catalinda8 - Not entirely true. TB's are fragile as hell. Combined with the age they are raced, the result is obvious!!! They never get the chance to grow up strong :( And it's not that difficult to fix either, a change at the regulations regarding entry age, and a slight turn in breeding towards stronger feet, I believe accidents will drop significantly.
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ConsistantlyRandom21 10 months ago
I want to say thanks,because well i love horses and love racing but theres 2 different ways to race, the right way or the wrong way, this video shows the concequences of racing a horse the wrong way. Today most people are into therobreeds for a reson, MONEY! not the horse. what happends They race them too young, they pump them up on every kind of crap used and they only think the horse is usefull till its 4 years old at the most then,they put them down only a few lucky ones get homes.
Horseluver803 11 months ago
Thank you so, so much for posting this video. This is all so true!
KiwiHorseProductions 11 months ago
horses are strong animals and if they did not wanto run they wouldnt it is tragic that this happins this is soo soo horible but i have to say it life and not all of them die it is not just horse racing that this happins so i find it unfair to target them at least the horses have an great quality of life and are taken care of at a high quality unlike most horses whu are traded cheap to people who dont have a clue and eithe starve to death or are treated so badly they live tru tourture
seaney234 1 year ago
While I agree that drugs should be banned from this sport, there's one drug, Lasix, which is used for medical purposes, more specifically to help prevent bleeding in a horse's lungs. Steriods are already banned in racing in the US, but the fact is, thoroughbreds WILL break down. Sometimes they just take a bad step or it was just a freak accident. There are some things in this sport that should be banned completely, but the whole banning whips thing I have mixed feelings about.
DraculaGal31 1 year ago
God is watching and Hell awaits.
grumpiking 1 year ago 12
@grumpiking I don't think anyone could have thought of anything better to say.
MaxD3 1 year ago 3
Just a fact and not being rude but Barbaro DID take a bad step because it happens sometimes,just like if you or me took a bad step out side and he was given the best care and only put down after they knew life for him wouldn't be worth living anymore. There are things that do need to be changed(personally i think on the weight system) But its like you said we all say what we do about this for the love of the horses. :)
TheBandgeeksunited 1 year ago
Racehorses are trained young because if you wait until they are older, fully developed skeletally, they will be at a much higher risk of lameness or injury. That's the fact of it. I'm sick of hearing people say that it's cruel when it actually helps them.
WhitleyBoulevard 1 year ago
Wow I see what you mean. Walking to a paddock is really animal cruelty! NO horses should be allowed to do anything WHAT SO EVER because it is ALL dangerous...
I would like to ask a simple question. What does a horse do when you are trying to make them do something they don't want to??
Because if people like you aren't blind, then you would know.
WolfCreekCity 1 year ago
Barbaro died of a infection after they fixed up his leg they did everything to save him.
Not all race horse trainers are bad.
I think they need newer rules to make things safer for the greatested animal , (the horse) on the plant
TheCrazySpot 1 year ago
Theres nothing like you PETA loving retards who think you know it all.
TheBigfootkiller 1 year ago
@TheBigfootkiller Tell me, please, one single thing in this video that isn't true. 64 other people agree with me
MaxD3 1 year ago 6
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ConsistantlyRandom21 10 months ago
@ConsistantlyRandom21 i dont know bout curlin but brown was doped up dutro even admitted it id say zenyatta was prob the only horse or one of the only horses not doped up just on oats nd hay
footyunit 10 months ago
Just for the record I'm in no way condeming racing just pointing out a couple of facts.
Helgoddess 1 year ago
I wonder how many of these horses can be traced back to Native Dancer? I know of three for sure, Barbaro, Ruffian, Eight Belles. But I'm pretty sure Ginforthewin and Go For Wand can be too. Probably the majority of them. Bad genes and soft bones are a receipe for disaster. They really need to open the stud book. These horses are so inbred it's rediculous. Over a 100 years is too long to go with out new blood. Didn't we learn anything from the royal families in the past? Surely the sport of Kings
Helgoddess 1 year ago
You can see the pain on the people's faces while they watch the horses suffering, you can see it is an accident. My horse could die on a hack breaking a leg in a rabbit hole but does that mean just school all the time? Accidents happen. Equine sports has the highest death rate cos loads of people participate, racing has a high death rate because lots of horses participate. Yes i would prefer they didn't die, i love horses especially my ex racer but i love racing too
DeathKitty123456 1 year ago 5
@DeathKitty123456 I've said it before and I'll say it again, racing a horse that has not fully grown is the accident, not their deaths.
MaxD3 1 year ago 2
@MaxD3 A lot of the horses that die on the track are older, the 2 year olds just do flat, yes they should raise the age i agree, i hate seeing the babies racing. But most the deaths occur in steeple chasing and hurdling which has older mature horses participating, just accidents. Horses die in all equine sports.
DeathKitty123456 1 year ago
@MaxD3 Jockies have a higher chance of dieing in a race than the horses do.
breyerhorserock 1 year ago
The racing world has a cruel back side to their stables, yes, however,breaking bones is inevitable. You can't always immediately tell that something has happened until its too late. It depends on the placement and how their running style bases their weight to determine how badly they will be affected immediately. Most of these horses are put down on the track which is the best thing, being that its unnatural to keep such a large animal whom is genetically designed to run etc alive, is cruel yes.
animefreak128 1 year ago
Is it just me or did about 80% of these horses die in '06?
matttylergoldbloom 1 year ago
@matttylergoldbloom Sorry, meant 90%.
matttylergoldbloom 1 year ago
Remember that these amazing animals love what they do, and hate being boxed up and unworked. It breaks their spirits, just a surely as abuse does.
stripeofamber 1 year ago
horses do, but I've seen 2-3 year old reiners that are just fine. I've even met an ex reiner that was started as a yearling and is almost 20 that is just fine. Its all in the horse, and the conditions it is met in. Most of the tragedies in the industries are simply accidents. I'm not saying there isn't bad in the racing industry, but there is bad everywhere. Baseball for example. That is simply riddled with bad, yet I don't hear anyone clamoring to ban that.
stripeofamber 1 year ago
And in reference to the youth, my now 3 year old QH was practically born running. Even at a few months of age he would spend most of his time either running, eating or napping. As he got older, it became more running. It what he loves, its what he does. He has no physical issues from the amount of time he spent running as a colt, has no issues now. He even used to spend a lot of time running and jumping the ditch that was in one of the pastures. Sure, he didn't put the work in that the race...
stripeofamber 1 year ago
@stripeofamber When did I say ban horse racing? I only said that changes need to happen. Secondly, a young horse running for their own enjoyment is entirely different than a horse being put through strenuous training and being pumped full of who knows what drugs to hide any pain they may be having in the first place
MaxD3 1 year ago
@MaxD3 You didn't. Multiple other people on here have.
But many young horses do go through strenuous training and still do fine. I will totally agree on the drugs thing. They need to be banned from everything, not just horse sports. But the amount of people doping the horses isn't actually that huge... Most places if they test your horse and its doped, you are disqualified and a lot of the time banned from the sport for a certain time period. Don't go around saying everyone's doing it and...
stripeofamber 1 year ago
@MaxD3 .. okay with it. Its a few nasty people, and the majority of horse owners/trainers wouldn't dream of doing that to their animals. Don't paint everyone with the mud of a few. For me, even if it meant the chance at winning I wouldn't go that far. But some people don't have those morals, and they are who give the rest of us the bad name. That's incorrect and very prejudiced to do so.
stripeofamber 1 year ago
@MaxD3 Changes need to happen? THey are. CA has set the standard and require polytrack. Not much difference, time will tell, fact is horseracing is NOT the only sport that starts them young. Ever heard of a Cutting Horse??? They are started at 2yo, and barrel horses, and reiners. What about stadium or show jumping? Have you swept those accidents under the rug? Dressage horses break down so do 3 day eventers. There is NOT a horse related sport where there is NO risk.
SHELLMADDE 1 year ago
@SHELLMADDE Lol. It doesn't even have to be a horse related sport. I've sen them break down just pleasure riding. Horse stepped in a hole, and it was over.
(This isn't aimed at yeu, SHELL, just a general statement)
The fact is that this whole life and all the living things are at risk for injury. That is the way the world is. The horses in the wild are just as likely to die (actually more so) that a racing thoroughbred.
stripeofamber 1 year ago
@stripeofamber Your "now 3 year old" QH ??? your let your horse run at his own desire, look at his soundness at 3, and compare it to what a TB (made to run with a rider to build fitness from 18mos) would look like at 10 or 12, when they could be in their prime for other events like jumping or dressage??? There is no comparison there... sorry. The wear and tear of a hard life might not show up till a horses middle years.
jmdnarri 1 year ago
Some of these comments here just make me laugh. Ban horse racing? Well thats one rather ridiculous thing to say. Are you going to offer a home for all those race horses that no longer have any value? Are you going to take care of them all so they don't go to slaughter? Where will the money come from? Slaughter is a reality, there really are no other options, other than starvation. There simply put, are not enough homes for all the horses in this world.
stripeofamber 1 year ago
@cupcakeGGandMM These horses are insured. Yes, many owners really do care about their horses but to most, if the horses die on the track, its no big deal. And I don't believe the "bad step" BS - horses that are trained to and start racing at TWO years old break down because they are started too young and worked too vigorously for their weak skeletal systems that they have at that age. I guarantee you if owners waited to train their horses one more year, there would be substantially less injuries
MaxD3 1 year ago 3
@MaxD3 I know tons of people that would care if their prize horse died so stop speaking for them
MsCameronrox 1 year ago
The footage of ruffian always had turned my stomach - even the movie they did of her watching her leg break there, then the actual footage of it just sends a chill down my spine.
ladybloodrose 1 year ago
going to the races. I know many many people in the racing industry and it is not cruel. I've seen behind the scene stuff with my own eyes and not at all was anything cruel. I love riding horses too, I've been around horses all my life. I'm even starting to event soon. Every sport is dangerous guys, but you should respect it. Racing is a sport and it is not dangerous. I thing what we should be more worried about is the dickheads who abuse and neglect animals. Not a sport that is NOT cruel. :)
alicemrox 1 year ago
dangerous. Don't just hate on racing. It is not cruel. Horses love to run - would you rather them sitting in a paddock all day? Or sitting in a stall not doing anything? Or getting looked after well and raced. These horses are fit and healthy. If they weren't, they wouldn't be allowed to race. Simple. Then theres the slaughter thing. This is due to dumb people who breed shit horses that don't do well. It isn't racings fault? I love and respect every horse sport because it is NOT cruel. I enjoy
alicemrox 1 year ago
Okay. So I don't agree with horses being trained to race at what, 1? and being raced at 2. That isn't right. Steeplechasing isn't too flash either. But I love racing and it is really offensive when people go around saying its cruel, but really, they don't know what they're talking about. Racing is a sport - respect it! It is just like eventing, polo, show jumping etc. I know plenty of horses who have had to be shot due to accidents in show jumping & cross country. Anything to do with horses is
alicemrox 1 year ago
well done on the video! .. there isnt anything good about this sport . .. to all those race lovers out there wat are some facts that racing is good ... u "bag" activist but u dont have evidence to proove its not cruel ... give some evidence to back up ur statement thanls mate
kyro601 1 year ago
Thats nice. A video obituary of race horses. Race horse owners doent love their horses the way a child does? Im gonna barf again. A child does not know how to care for a horse or even appreciate it. sally's little pony that sits in the pen not regularily fed or provided vet care and in many cases left to die.
COUNTRYROADZ 1 year ago
Geez another dumb video. Excuse my I just barfed in my mouth.
The fact is the only reason a thoroughbred even exists is to perform. Years ago horses were bred to use in War, Fox Hunting & Racing. The only reason people get to enjoy their beauty is because of the breeding and care owners put into them. The problem is horse owners who keep them as pets . Lets see a video on that instead of this copy and paste with music..
No Horse Racing = No horses
COUNTRYROADZ 1 year ago
Racehorses have the will to race bred into them, they are a herd animal in the wild and race against one another for fun. The truth is, we don't force the animal to do anything they don't want to already do. Racehorses are cared for by extremely dedicated caretakers who provide the best passible maintenance. I'm sorry you feel so strongly against horse racing but you need to know exactly what goes on in the sport to truly understand. Pleasure horses have heart attacks and colic too.
robomac91 1 year ago
I agree. Horse racing is cruelty. Horses shouldnt be started under saddle until they are at least 2, maybe 2 and a half in my opinion. There legs just arent developed enough to take that stress. And it makes me mad that horses that just arent good at racing usually end up going to slaughter. They could have been some ones jumper, trail horse, barrel horse, or any thing. But yet, they still go to slaughter. Thanks for posting this video. :)
BarrelRacer955 1 year ago
@BarrelRacer955 I have a foundered gelding that my parents wanted to sell, but i wouldnt let them because he would most likley end up going to slaughter. Hes the sweetest horse ever, hes just very shy, and foundered. But he is now doing well and is recovering from regular trimmings.
BarrelRacer955 1 year ago
i have 3 OTTB's in my paddock,,, they are all loved and very cherrisded,,, a far cry from the industry they left behind,,, i even rescued one guy with a massive radial carpul slab fracture in both knees,,,, he has had surgery ,with screws holding his bones together,and now lives his life as a paddock mate,,, being occassionly ridden n loved very much .... my boys are very lucky...
number1geish 1 year ago
make a video when u actually know what goes on in our sport! racehorses are treated like royalty they are better looked after than us riders and stable staff. so go and work in racing for a while before u start making fucking videos like this u complete and utter cunt!
colley2k7 1 year ago
thanx, my e-mail is tarmac451@aol.com
PrincessE8888 1 year ago
hi, would you be able to send me this video? If yes, I'll message you with my e-mail address. thanks
PrincessE8888 1 year ago
@PrincessE8888 Sure, I can give it a try atleast (not sure if a file this large will send over e-mail though). Go ahead and send me your e-mail.
MaxD3 1 year ago
@MaxD3 Thanks, the address is tarmac451@aol.com also
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Horses break bones in strenuous activity just like humans do while playing sports or in accidents. It is part of life. It just so happens that when a horse breaks a bone in a leg(s) it is better to go ahead and euthanize them because of the enormous amount of weight they must place on each limb. They tried to save Barbaro and healed his one leg but because he could not place adequate pressure on it. The other leg began to founder which means the coffin bone was ripping away from the hoof wall.
SHcuttinhorse23 1 year ago
Horses break bones in strenuous activity just like humans do while playing sports or in accidents. It is part of life. It just so happens that when a horse breaks a bone in a leg(s) it is better to go ahead and euthanize them because of the enormous amount of weight they must place on each limb. They tried to save Barbaro and healed his one leg but because he could not place adequate pressure on it. The other leg began to founder which means the coffin bone was ripping away from the hoof wall.
SHcuttinhorse23 1 year ago
that George Washington horse looks soo cool...and kinda pretty
OblivionSs4 1 year ago
as u said, some horses arnt made fast, and y cant they not race if they don't want to, its horibble and i totally agree with koalabby, y cant we race them as two friends, y cant there be levels...i ant explain what i want to say
horseluver4ever129 1 year ago
Yeah most jockey;s don't actually whip their horses.
but i totally get your message about the ones that do. it's horrible how serious people get, to the point where they have to hit their horses. :(
My aunt has an ex racehorse and i'm sure he would've been the sweetest horse, but now he's mean because of his years in the races.
xxBlackVeilBridexx 1 year ago
its disgracefull how young these horses are, there pretty much only 3.
XxXjazzwazzerXxX 1 year ago
/why can't we race them as if two friends were racing out in some field?/
The drugs need to go, but I'm pretty sure athletes would use them too.
Whipping? You know, some jockeys don't /whip/ their horse. they show them the whip. There's a difference. They tell the horse that the race isn't over yet, they still have a chance.
Whipping is the equivalent of shouts from your friends and family. Hearing people cheering for me helped me pull through in track.
koalabby 1 year ago
@koalabby
Did the cheering welt your skin and cause pain? Probably not...
MaxD3 1 year ago
Max, now this comment of yours is one that I'd say, "you nailed it, spot on!" Couldn't have said it better myself! ;^>
jock4hire 1 year ago
@MaxD3 well up whips dont cause welts on their skin well in some cases but they are like shouts they dont hurt the horse ive seen a horse get kicked in the head by another horse and not even be phased it didnt act as it hurt but the drugs do need to go they weaken the tendons and destroy cartalage
monkeymangonewild 1 year ago
hi
this is so sad ,I have an ex race horse called CLEARLY OSCAR i love him to bits he broke his knee hurdling ,he had it repaired and the was just left out to recover , when i got him he was so thin ,he is the most amazing nautured horse i have ever owned ,now hacking about and loving it ,he has a 2nd chance ,and will remain with me till then end ,thanks for posting this as it needs to be known how some people treat there race horses ! not all but some !
zanne04 1 year ago
Regarding what you said about Barbaro, why were quotes around bad step? It could've happened to any horse anywhere. Also, his owners loved him. They knew he'd never race again, but they were fighting terribly to save him.
BackstretchUnderdog 1 year ago
no affence but barbaro died in 2007
i think it is sad how they go to the slaughter house if they r not good enough for racing
mangotango2000 1 year ago
HORSE RACING ISNT CRUEL!! they dont have to euthenize them...they could save them. yes it take patience and time and maybe a little money. but to save a life i would give all tht and more. all you show is the bad times in racing. these horses are BRED for this amazing sport.
JockeyGirlLuvsHorses 1 year ago
I know, if they raced horses at the age of 5 or 6 these horses would be faster and happy with less break downs. Horse should not be ran hard for the first year under saddle. My trainer will not let you canter a horse till they are over 5, They are not ready. so to race at 2!?! I think most of the race horses are taken care of well.
pawpower12 1 year ago
accidents ahppen in any event- often its people's fault- some peopel are good trainers and riders and others arent and bad people can ruin horses and make anything dangerous
4FabBEATLES 1 year ago
Just wanted to say that I love the message of your video. Not only are the injured ones disposed of, but the ones that aren't quite fast enough. I work at a rescue farm and so many of our horses are OTTB's, starving and abandoned. Some were raced so hard they blew out their knee's or fractured bones in their legs. I know not all race horse owners treat their horses so poorly, but the nature of the industry causes so many horses to suffer.
missallsmiles247 1 year ago 8
@missallsmiles247 Very nicely said, thank you!
MaxD3 1 year ago
Yea, the horses love to run, but far too many die. They racing industry needs to make some changes in a hurry.
NaturalJumper1032 1 year ago
You put Barbaro in there and I know his owners really did love him. They knew that if he lived he would never be able tor ace again but they tried to keep him alive and fix his leg.
SilverMoon2014 1 year ago
@ Azzawakhe a whip is an aid and a reminder i do know about this cause my friend is a teacher i haven't been riding long but i no it is a reminder so u want this to go further that's fine but all this is true........ all tbs are broken in very young and then they qualify 20% of them it sucks so if u don't know anything about regular riding LEARN now is the time that u stop your nasty comments the trainers dont train them for the gates most horses are hard to get into the gates
silverthearab 1 year ago
LETS BAND RACING ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!! WHAT IS THE PIONT, BETTING MONEY , JUST TO HAVE THE ANIMAL SUFFER!!!! only horse people get it
breyercowgirl64 1 year ago
These "freak accidents" are too common to be called "freak." Do the math people, a young/under-developed horse + taking a major risk = an increased chance for a disaster. There is absolutely no way do disprove that and I challenge anyone who claims otherwise.
ksizer 1 year ago
my dad was the jockey for gin for the win
jadoredior947 1 year ago
It doesn't show that the race itself is bad, it's the breeders and the buyers that need to change. They are breeding for fast horses, not sound horses. So in turn, you get a fast horse that is weak. If they started breeding for soundness, and strong horses, then most of those accidents would be reduced. I like racing, in the hands of the right people, most horses live a really good life, but in the hands of greedy people, the horses suffer.
squecky918 1 year ago
that is cruel i hate racing i lovce horses but i hate racing a whip is an aid as a reminder of whos in charge not to make the horses go faster i hate that one sport racing imagin wat would happen to other racers my friend works a a racing stable and she was GIVEN a horse cause she wasnt fast enought for the owner and trainer so she was raced five times wen she was 2 and once wen she was three then she was given awayy i hate racing
silverthearab 2 years ago
@silverthearab A whip is NOT a reminder of who´s in charge, it´s used to enhance leg aids when needed. If you are going to bash the sport, don´t display your lack of knowledge, it will only make you look stupid.
Azzawakhe 1 year ago
yes some people use drugs but they are not suppose to, and whips are not cruel I use a whip to help teach my horse to stop so he doesn't plow his face into the ground but I am not cruel about, and everybody who thinks racing is cruel stop plastering the whole sport as cruel because that calls people like my parents and there friends cruel. I like the song choices though they are very good songs
ginger55611111 2 years ago
How many horse die by the hands of ignorant people who own non-sport horses? Race horses are very well taken care of by professionals everyday. Accidents happen in racing as well as by starved farm horses and horses injured by neglect or from jumping and trail riding and colic from improper care or starvation. Race horses are very valuable and are in professional hand everyday with 24/7 on call vet. Think about that. Hobby horse deaths don't make the news.
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TheBellTollssss 1 year ago
@crockjock
Horses dying in other situations doesn't justify these ones being raced to death. It's a shallow and opressive industry and the public have a right to know about it.
TheBellTollssss 1 year ago
@crockjock how does the fact that other non-sport horses die at the hands of ignorant people make it ok that race horses die from "educated" professionals who 1) over breed 2) start racers too young 3) work racers too hard 4) often keep the horses enclosed in a stall for too long 5) often give the horses drugs for pain and still race them and/or give them performance drugs not allowed in other equine sports? not a sport, cruelty.
HorseshoeGirl1 1 year ago
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MONEY.....
Money should be raised to stop horse racing & all animal cruelty
Bankers, financiers and presidents must be involved!!!
Like Georgе Cloonеу raised with the American celebrities 1 billion for Haiti, such and more amount should be raised to stop cruelty against animals!
Aironya 2 years ago
It's sad because these horses are so young and they they have their whole lives ahead of them, and it's all over in a split second...
cammarkgross 2 years ago
propaganda crap!! I'm sorry you disagree with racing so much. I take your point but you are being a bit unfair counting deaths at home exercising and heartattacks, they could happen to any horse not just racers. Racehorses are bred for that purpose its callous but true. And sadly accidents happen as in all sport. Your facts and quotes are incorrect try doing some research before putting such over dramatic drivel on show.
barrythepie 2 years ago 8
My facts and quotes are directly quoted from racetrack owners, racehorse owners, and jockeys. The ONLY thing I said in this video that is not a direct quote is that the horses love to run and wouldn't if they didn't want to but that is because EVERYONE has said that. We are using these animals and drugging them up to be beneficial to our pockets, only to dispose of them unless they win numerous big-name races. In which case they become a "hero" and given the life of luxury.
MaxD3 2 years ago
your facts may or may not be true, but you are still suggesting racing is to blame for horses having heart attacks. You say we are using these horses to make money, yes we are thats what they are bred for, if we weren't using them for that then they wouldn't be here at all. and then what would you have to protest against? And what about all the happy endings? your stats only show a % of all racehorses, what about the rest? such as my ex racer living a happy and full life?
barrythepie 2 years ago
@MaxD3, you said, "they are treated like kings, even loved, but only for the money they make their owners."
Gotta call ya on that one, Max! That's not a Truth!
Training a horse at one year of age is cruelty. There is nothing you can say that will change my mind."
I'm a retired jockey, still work in the industry, & have been for more than 40 yrs. & I know of no trainer who does this! I'm not sure where ya get your info, but this is fiction, Max! Not a Truth!
Where'd ya research?
jock4hire 1 year ago
If your facts & quotes are direct via ppl in racing, why didn't ya accredit them by name each quote?
Yes, we benefit monetarily from the horses, its a legit gambling sport, duh?.
My dream is to live to one day see drug free racing in America!
FYI Max, "most owners in this biz, aren't making money in it at all, in fact most are losing their shirts!
Most owners have never won a big name race, & keep racing their mediocre or cheap horses! Why? For the love of this sport! FACT!
jock4hire 1 year ago
Since these are supposed "racing industry truths",... why haven't you just stated truths, & left out your own slant?
ie: "Emmanellie, suffered a heart attack during a race."
And your point in including her? To educate those who didn't know horses get heart attacks too, same as ppl do?
If not,... That's like sayin' "since many people die in hospitals, every day, that must mean, the Dr's. are no good, ...or that the deaths should be blamed on the entire Medical profession!" Isn't it?
jock4hire 1 year ago
@barrythepie I agree with the facts & purposly bred
But you said accident happen in all sports ... But thats our choice, we choose to take part ... horses have no choice, Remember that. Bitch
2010MissCooper 1 year ago
@2010MissCooper I think you missed the point I was trying to make, clearly too busy lowering yourself to immature name calling. I think its quite obvious you have no concept whatsover of what goes on in the world of racing or probably any sort of horseriding ( dont get horses in da ghetto) You like many others have jumped on the we hate racing bandwagon with no clue at all of real life. Racing is a risk sport, enjoyed by millions and a billion pound industry, its going nowhere, GET OVER IT!!!
barrythepie 1 year ago
@barrythepie Yes, but everyone has the rights to disagree with it. Why do people get so stuck-up & obnoxious just because where i live & what my speach is like. If you dont like people underyou then fuck off!
Every industry is a billion pound industrys. That does not mean everyone has to stay quiet & agree, Are you stupid or retarded?
2010MissCooper 1 year ago
@2010MissCooper oh dear I am seriously struggling to see the point you are trying to make are you genuinely interested in the plight of racehorses or is this just an excuse to prove how childish and rude you can be? you say its unfair how people make judgements on you based on where you come from, well unfortunately you are doing a very good job confirming it by acting like a silly little girl unable to make valid points based on experience or well informed judgement.
barrythepie 1 year ago
I'm neither stupid nor retarded.GROW UP! I dont agree with MAXD3 so what? I just wanted to add my thoughts about the subject. Thankfully I am mature enough to do so without the need to resort to the use of bad language and petty insults. Please stop replying unless you have something constructive to add at least get your spelling right...
barrythepie 1 year ago
What about all the (equivalent physical development levels) poor human kids who get broken legs and arms in school sports. Sports in school is an unnecessary risk of injury. i broke my back running track, damnit. I hate them making kids play football and bitching when the kid gets hurt or like me deformed and disabled for life. But no they won't shoot ME I have another 40 stinking years to SUFFER.
94gunsmoke 2 years ago
Lousy music. Good points.
akarpowicz 2 years ago
Barbaro
"They Called It A Bad Step"
Well That's Because It Was A Bed Step
ZenyattaLuver 2 years ago
I have been told that just because a horse has to be vanned off after a race doesn't mean it's broken down..it may just mean that something's amiss and the jockey wants to be on the safe side
FanOBarbaro 2 years ago
God, people, grow up. Did you know that people can break a leg just walking, taking a bad step? So can horses. Some horses just start tearing around a pasture, and break a leg. Know what I call it? A FREAK ACCIDENT. Okay? This is gonna happen sometimes. Deal with it. Racing IS NOT EVIL. Just watch a video of Zenyattta. Does she not look overjoyed to be running? Get back to me on this, or people, answer! Horse racing isn't abuse. Deal with it.
dustywhipp5 2 years ago 3
@dustywhipp5 He he, I agree with you, more racing haters should watch Zenyatta run! That mare is laughing all the way to the finish line! =)
Azzawakhe 1 year ago
@Azzawakhe, Yeah, when her big floppy ears go up, she's grinning all the way to the finish line. People need to understand that freak accidents can happen any day, at any time, in any sport. It's sad, but it's the truth.
dustywhipp5 1 year ago
I recently saved an off track mare who was bow-wrapped and then raced after the tendon bowed. I have worked with race horses long enough to know that they love to work and to run. My mare still thinks she is going to the track when we load her up in the trailer, she gets very excited, I often have to use a nose chain on her just to take her out to her paddock. She went from lame racehorse to beautiful show jumper.
FujiiwaraMichiyo 2 years ago
:50 You would have think the jockey would have felt something was amiss on the that horse when she started to lag behind. Sad thing.
21Sarabi 2 years ago
Like it or not horses are designed to run yes there are accident's in racing but there are also many accident's in all other disciplines. An if you've never spoken to a wide variety of jockeys and owners you don't know whether they love them or not, in my opinion they do. But its your opinion. If horse didn't love to race, they wouldn't do it. Simple
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xxHaniixJazziixx 2 years ago
Thousands of race horses DON'T like to race. They are too slow for this industry and are then sent to auction with an unknown outcome.
MaxD3 2 years ago
So are many horses, most go to loving homes, my friend bought one privately, not through auction, from someone who was sad to see him go. I just think that there are many many other cruel things going on in the world than racing. How about neglect? horses found with over grown hooves, skinny and unloved, no water sometimes tied up so tightly their face's cut. Racehorses are looked after like kings, Best food, rugs, treatment everything. yes accident's happen but thats what they are accidents.
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xxHaniixJazziixx 2 years ago
A two year old breaking down in their first race is no accident...it can be avoided by letting them mature before working them so strenuously. And of course there are many other bad things happening in this world. But this video is about racing, nothing else.
MaxD3 2 years ago
I agree horses shouldn't be broken in till there 4,and accident means sumthin not done on purpose they didnt have their legs broken just for the fun of it!? I dont agree with some racing aspects, but I wouldnt critisize it unles I had knew the sport wel, No 1 knows whts goin on in a jockey/owners mind if a horse they loved died underneath them. I highly doubt they were just annoyed they didn't win! i know this videos on racing my point was racing isnt as bad as somethings being done to horses
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xxHaniixJazziixx 2 years ago
i agree that the 2yr olds should wait a while or just simply take it nice and slow but horses are built the way they are to run and they love to do it
nyletakatelyn 2 years ago
Most horses start there race training at 3 years old. If a horse has strong blood it will be trained lighty at 2 and send to a few 2 year old races two year old races are always short with not much pressure and not many horses.
Dont you think if a owner paid for the horse he is going to give them the best home he can
racehorses are treated like royalty
better than you probably treat your horse
all4pharlap 2 years ago
@MaxD3 Now you're starting to make me angry, Max! This comment of yours is insinuating that those who race their 2 YO's are doing it as a Blood Sport! How can you sit there so cavalier, and say that a 2 YO breaking down in the first place, is no accident? You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such a thing! If it's not an accident, then you're suggesting that these trainers are breaking them down,.... on purpose? You should offer an apology for making such a rotten statement! NOT TRUTH!
jock4hire 1 year ago
If they dont like to race then why do they??
A jockey normally weighs about 56kg but a horse weighs 1000kg sometimes more
dont you think that if a horse doesnt want to do something it will just stop,I have NEVER seen a horse stop in the middle of a race
all4pharlap 2 years ago
What is with these peoples logic? "there are other bad things happening in the world so lets not think or talk about ANY OF THEM" lol what do they think is an okay thing to protest about? it's gotta be about humans right? Because animals simply dont matter to these people. Most horses do not enjoy racing, as its unnatural and causes them severe health problems. Then when their time is up they go to auction n guess who's there? PET FOOD COMPANIES.
ByeByeBelly 2 years ago
it causes NO health problems no more health problem than any hack is going to get.you cant say that when you havent been backstage to the racing stables they get the BEST treatment you could give your horse
all4pharlap 2 years ago
arthritis, stomach ulcers
ByeByeBelly 2 years ago
uhm any horse can get that tho :S
old horses get that all the time
any horse can get it
i have never known a racehorse which is racing to ever get any of them things
all4pharlap 2 years ago
If the horse doesnt like to race
why do they?? A horse is stong enough to chuck the small jockey off it it didnt want to do something,Througbreds are very powerful horses
alot of "slow" racehorses are actually rehomed and made into hacks,eventers etc
all4pharlap 2 years ago 2
I never said the horses don't like to race. What I am saying is this industry only keeps the horses that are FAST enough for them. Do you have any idea how many Thoroughbreds are born every year and how many actually make it to stardom? What happens to the rest of them?
MaxD3 2 years ago
The rest of them get rehomed
i agree not all of them get rehomed but how many people do you know of who have a ex thoroughbred racehorse i think every 2nd person has one of them
sure some dont make it to a new home but not just racehorses get that many no good showjumpers,dressage horses etc also get this.
have you heard of anky van grunsven she is a "good dressage rider" but she over flecs her horses which is very bad for there poll and back which can lead to problems later in their life
all4pharlap 2 years ago
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@all4pharlap most horses love racing actually but there a few who hate it adn are good at it... if they dont run they get whipped if they buck or rear they get whipped... adn most likely set to be slaughtered would you rather take your chance in racing and maybe or maybe not die... or be one of the horses who try to say no and buck there rider off and get sent to be slaughtered?? thats how things are..
hannahblackwolf14 1 year ago
"God couldn't heal there legs...so he gave them wings"
DressageRider454 2 years ago
These animals don't deserve this..the pain!
DressageRider454 2 years ago
Well DressageRider454, horses that do dressage dont deserve to be in a constant overbent position with a double bridle jamming their head down and having spurs jabbed into them either. And the wastage rate for dressage horses is appalling. So perhaps look into your own backyard.
debacle22 2 years ago 2
Well atleast jockeys dont
have spurs on *coughcoughunlike dressage riders*
they dont expect them to have there head down in a very unconfortable postion for 3 minutes or more
and they dont perform unnatual moves all over an arena
atleasy running is natual for a horse
all4pharlap 2 years ago
so you think because dressage horses are abused, that race horses should be too? what kind of bizarre logic is that?
ByeByeBelly 2 years ago
ok explain why barbaro got injured while coming out the gate but he kept going because he loved to run as soon as the jockey saw something was wrong about 5 seconds after they started he pulled him up and cried because barbaro was injured that proves horses love to run and people care so much about them
no horse is pushed to do anything horses are a 1000kg animal they are not going to be told what to do by a person who is 56kg
all4pharlap 2 years ago
He cried because he couldnt participate in the race
ByeByeBelly 2 years ago
Actually no i am pretty sure he didnt
the owners spent over 50,00 to try save barbaro
the jockey was deverstated that barbaro was injured i am pretty sure he wouldnt be crying because he couldnt participate in the race
all4pharlap 2 years ago
dressage riders don't DIG their spurs into their horses, they barely even use them. And at least dressage riders don't whip their horses all over the track, or run them to their deaths! and what these horses are doing is called going ROUND, and the horses like it. It stretches out their back muscles and is very good for them. Futhermore the moves practiced in the dressage arena were once used in war, where they were crucial. So don't go badmouthing MY sport when you have nothing to back it up!!!
xBornToGallopx 2 years ago
Dont go bagging my sport either then
I have heaps of things to back it up
have you even though that dressage horses having there horses wayy to much on the bit is very bad for there back.
Horses were born to run dont you think it is better them out there stretching there legs doing something they love doing rather than stuck in a stable all day like some horses are.Racehorses are kept the best out of any horses in the world they get heaps of stable room and a very big whole paddock 2 themself
all4pharlap 2 years ago
what makes u think that dressage horses are over flexed? Cuz when they put their heads like that and stretch ther back muscles out, it feels realy good 4 them.if it WAS bad for the horses, why do you think that Brentina was competing to her 20's? Racehorses are kept inside up to 22 hrs/day,not outside.we have a retired racehorse at our barn & she is always in alot of pain from runing, w/ bowed tendon, weaves, is lame, has a bad back.we started on dressage with her ans she is ALOT better now.
xBornToGallopx 2 years ago
well i got a young thorouhbred whch was dressage horse for about a year or two developed a very bad back and really bad poll because of his head pushed so hard down
you are wrong about the racehorses being kept outside all racehorse owners i know have there horses in a warm very large stable at night and a big paddock to themselves in the morning :) they get brushed everyday and bathed some even have a vet stay with them overnight
all4pharlap 2 years ago