Not only is it not viable, infant baptism is utterly meaningless. Religious rituals performed on someone not of their own will or by their own decision is utterly meaningless. I was baptized as a baby but now I'm an atheist. The only thing of significance to me (as related by my mother) was that I shit my diaper as it was being performed.
I agree 110%! My fiance wants our 10 month old son baptized because he fears he won't be accepted into heaven if something should happen. I told him EXACTLY what you have said here in this video. Thank you.
I also agree about the denomination. I was raised baptist (but never baptized) and I will be bringing our son up the same way.
"...and since the holy Christian Church cannot perish until the end of the world, they must acknowledge that such infant baptism is pleasing to God. For He can never be opposed to Himself, or support falsehood and wickedness, or for its promotion impart His grace and Spirit."
Keep up the Pro-Life argument, btw. I think it's crazy that a society that can claim a bacterium found in space is life can't recognize a human infant growing the in the womb.
One last thing from Martin Luther's Cathecism: "if God did not accept the baptism of infants, He would not give the Holy Ghost nor any of His gifts to any of them; in short, during this long time unto this day no man upon earth could have been a Christian. Now, since God confirms Baptism by the gifts of His Holy Ghost, as is plainly perceptible in some of the church fathers, as St. Bernard, Gerson, John Hus, and others, who were baptized in infancy...
To close, Baptism is not salvation, but it is necessary for salvation. It is a cleansing so that you can make a proper petition to God as part of His children (1 Peter 3:21). For even the Baptized are called to repentance (Acts 8:14-22) as Peter refrains from giving Simon the anointing of the Holy Spirit (as done in the Catholic church). Jesus and the apostles were Jewish, and from a Jewish perspective, it would have been unthinkable to exclude infants and children from God's Covenant kingdom.
Gen. 17:12, Lev. 12:3 - these texts show the circumcision of eight-day old babies as the way of entering into the Old Covenant - Col 2:11-12 - however, baptism is the new "circumcision" for all people of the New Covenant. Therefore, baptism is for babies as well as adults. God did not make His new Covenant narrower than the old Covenant. To the contrary, He made it wider, for both Jews and Gentiles, infants and adults.
Acts 16:15 - further, Paul baptizes the household based on Lydia's faith, not the faith of the members of the household. This demonstrates that parents can present their children for baptism based on the parents' faith, not the children's faith.
Acts 16:30-33 - it was only the adults who were candidates for baptism that had to profess a belief in Jesus. This is consistent with the Church's practice of instructing catechumens before baptism. A tradition from the early centuries of church history
Acts 10:47-48 - Peter baptized the entire house of Cornelius, which generally included infants and young children. There is not one word in Scripture about baptism being limited to adults.
Acts 16:15 - Paul baptized Lydia and her entire household. The word "household" comes from the Greek word "oikos" which is a household that includes infants and children.
Acts 2:39 - Peter then says baptism is specifically given to children as well as adults. “Those far off” refers to those who were at their “homes” (primarily infants and children). God's covenant family includes children. The word "children" that Peter used comes from the Greek word "teknon" which also includes infants.
Acts 2:38 - Peter says to the multitude, "Repent and be baptized.." Protestants use this verse to prove one must be a believer (not an infant) to be baptized. But the Greek translation literally says, "If you repent, then each one who is a part of you and yours must each be baptized” (“Metanoesate kai bapistheto hekastos hymon.”) This, contrary to what Protestants argue, actually proves that babies are baptized based on their parents’ faith. This is confirmed in the next verse.
Origen (circa 244AD): "The Church received from the Apostles the practice of baptizing even infants"
Also, I think it's funny you will accept baptizism from any random Christian but deem it unworthy when it comes from someone with apostolic succession.
@Link0126 You mean to say the church that worships Mary,and took the second commandment way (exodus 20 4 to 6) and practiced indulgences to raise money. That made husband and wises feel guilty for having sex. That told Castrati they cannot marry, but still made them sing in their churches. That burned witches. That has members practicing self flagellation. That prescribes a certain ammount of prayers according to the severity of sins for penance. Is the church with apostolic succession?
@medusa210562 Yes, the Catholic Church has clear apostolic succession as can be historically verified. They don't however worship Mary. They are 3 ways that the commandments have been numbered throughout history. We are told there are 10 but in the text we aren't given any actual way to group them, we have to do that ourselves. The Catholic Church has always used the format laid out by Augustine which combines your 2nd and 1st into one. Judaism does the same thing.
@Link0126 Do young people worship Michael Jackson? They would say no. They don't rationally decide to worship Michael Jackson. But whatever we elevate about ourselves we worship. Anything that was created or anyone that was created if we elevate it we worship. Ask yourself a simple question would you like me to kneel to you? In revelation John kneels to an angle and the angle says get up I am a servant like you.( or something lie that) and in acts Peter stops someone from kneeling to him.
Luke 3: read further on to verse 15 "As the people were in expectation, and all men questioned in their hearts concerning John, whether perhaps he were the Christ. John answered them saying "I baptize you with water..." So they were baptized. Back to verse 12 the people come to be baptized and he tells them what they have to do to be repentant. He baptizes them unto repentance. Furthermore, these people had no idea who Jesus was...
"I baptize you unto repentance" Unto= to / until. That verse is not requiring belief for baptism. If anything it's saying the opposite of what your saying. That the person is being baptized for repentance, or until repentance. It aligns just fine with the notion of infant baptism.
@Link0126 so you think a baby just born can lie, or say a cuss word or steal? if they dont know anything yet at all because they where just born!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@3emperorsproduction No, but they are born into original sin so baptism is still benefitical. Also, baptism was always understood as the initiation into the Christian faith. It is a sacrament, meaning something spiritual actually happens, not just an outward sign.
@Link0126 theres no such thing as original sin, thats no where found in the bible, if you can prove it then prove it. adam and eve made the choice to sin. its not original. you cant be born into something you choose. every single thing you do is by your choice, even if your mom or dad tells you to do something you are still doing by choice no one is making you do anything except you.
@3emperorsproduction Scripture: "I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me." (Ps. 51:5)
"But death reigned from Adam unto Moses, even over them also who have not sinned after the similitude of the transgression of Adam, who is a figure of him who was to come" (Rom. 5:14).
"For as by the disobedience of one man, many were made sinners; so also by the obedience of one, many shall be made just" (Rom.5:19).
@Link0126 I don't care that the "fathers" say. the bible doeesn't ask me to do anything about the sin I was conceived in. Even Jesus says something about "they no sin because they don't know" There is an original sin. But I only have to confess my actual sin.
@3emperorsproduction Early Christians: "Every soul, then, by reason of its birth, has its nature in Adam until it is born again in Christ; moreover, it is unclean all the while that it remains without this regeneration; and because unclean, it is actively sinful, and suffuses even the flesh (by reason of their conjunction) with its own shame." Tertullian, (A.D. 208).
"...no one is held back from Baptism and grace, how much more, then, should an infant not be held back, who, having but recently been born, has done no sin, except that, born of the flesh according to Adam. He has contracted the contagion of that old death from his first being born" Cyprian, (A.D. 250).
"Evil was mixed with our nature from the beginning…Thus sin takes its rise in us as we are born; it grows with us and keeps us company till life's term." Gregory of Nyssa, (ante A.D. 394).
but I think you are misunderstanding what original sin is: "In the theology of the Catholic Church, original sin is regarded as the general condition of sinfulness, that is (the absence of holiness and perfect charity) into which humans are born, distinct from the actual sins that a person commits. This teaching explicitly states that "original sin does not have the character of a personal fault in any of Adam's descendants". -wiki
it is more a distortion of our nature in the sense that unlike Adam and Eve we are not in God's grace from the moment of creation. We first enter into this grace when we are baptized.
This is a perfect example of someone who misunderstands the Old Covenant family of God, and the New Covenant family of God. This is also a perfect example of how you become your own authority interpreting Scripture while ignoring early Church history.
Go ahead and exclude part of your family from the New Covenant family of God.
infant baptism is the most ridiculous doctrine i have ever heard of. if u baptize infants, then i really feel for u. u have either been brainwashed or have no reasoning skills.
It understates your analogy...A blessing is not a baptism...in your comment you said you support infant & believers baptism...But there is only one baptism....The one where the requirements are to have repentence & faith...Infants can't do that
@theprolifeguy, so you are saying faith is not miraculous, infants do not have the capacity to believe, I invite you to site a text that supports this rational position. If belief is miraculous as scripture teaches, why can infants not also participate in this miracle? your argument is base in reason not scripture, and since reason is your guide how can you logically exclude children from households that were baptized in scripture, and on what basis do you exclude anyone from all nations
One of the things that I see as a case for Infant Baptism is when Mary and Joseph took Jesus to the temple to be blessed. This is what Christian parents to with their children. Infant Baptism is the parents promising to raise their child in the Lord, for the church to help them raise that child in the Lord, and to ask God's Blessing upon this child. I support both Infant and Believers Baptism.
@theprolifeguy ON the subject of Infant Baptism, it is going to depend on what denomination you are in. In a Methodist, Presbyterian, Reformed, Moravian, and Wesleyan churches would be the ones where it is symbolic, and a blessing. We should not fight on this issue.
@OneFaithMinistries Even to Jesus there is a difference between a blessing & a baptism as he still felt the need to be baptized by John the Baptist...
i don't think babies should be baptized because they are not choosing the religion they are being given it without a choice.it is better to let a child grow up and chose any religion,if any,that they wish to follow.if you ask someone that was baptized,what made you believe in your religion,they must say my parents baptized me i did not chose it.
Get Baptized into Jesus name the receive the Holy Ghost. This process changes a person from DEATH to LIFE. Jesus said to follow Him in the regeneration. He said a man must be born again. He told Peter to strengthen his bretheren after the conversion. All three mean the same, change from death to life. The sin of the world is death. Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world. Jesus said, enter into life, follow his commandments, then receive eternal life. read Romans 6
Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 5:32I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
The righteous need not repent, babies are righteous, All need to be baptised.
@wilby1414 If you truely understood what baptism does for a person then you would understand the need for babies to be baptised.
Repentance is just an acknowledgement of living a life without God and that you want to changed the course of your life from sinful living. ONLY sinners need to repent, not the righteous or babies. The sooner one gets baptized the better. Like I said, if you really knew what baptism does for you then you would understand.
When did baptism start forgiving sin? God forgives sin. That's it.
Mark 2:5. Was the paralytic baptised for his sins to be forgiven? No, Jesus forgave him because of their faith. Faith in God & repentance is how sin is forgiven.
Some sins not forgiven? Rubbish!
All sins but one forgiven.
Matthew 12:31 : "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. "
@zsifk There is a sin which you can not pray for. You are born in death and you must change from death to life. Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world. Want eternal life? Then choose LIFE! Read Romans 6.
Baptism in Jesus name then receive the Holy Ghost, this is life! Reject the Holy Ghost and that is death! Move from DEATH to LIFE. There is forgiveness for personal sin but as for the sin of death we are born with? We must be reborn into LIFE! Baptism into Jesus name!!
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me – Psalm 51:5. David discusses the issue of being "knit together" in sin. Sin is not an action, but a part of who we are. Only through redemption in Christ are we saved. I don't know where I stand...
As for the church who charges $500. It is not a problem with "infant baptism" per se. It's a HUGE problem of taking advantage of sacraments. Shame on them. Sacraments are a gift from Christ, not monetary means of a church.
A question beyond infant baptism, which I do believe is a justified and biblical practice.However, my question is if your opinion is that babies do not go to heaven after premature death. Belief in Jesus is required to get to heaven for he is the only way to get into heaven. Since babies cannot believe, they cannot be saved and therefore cannot go to heaven. This argument, and correct me if I am wrong, would follow this logical structure. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks!
@mttvndrr I believe children are innocent & will pass directly into heaven.....Even when aborted......There are many verses in the bible supporting the fact that God knew you long before you were in the womb......
Thanks for the reply. I am extremely excited about how passionate your are about being pro life, and I appreciate that you consider a fetus a baby and that you believe conception is the start of life. This being said, I am confused about your premise that children are innocent. How do you define innocent? Do you mean sinless or something else? Thanks again for your reply and video posts.
@mttvndrr If a baby dies on the first day of birth,is God going to punish it?..I realize that some denominations espouse the "Original Sin" doctrine but I don't believe it...Its become a way to secure infant baptisms....By the way,how much does your church charge for a baptism?....There is one around here that charges over 500.00....I can see why they would want to baptize babies
CHANGING RELIGION IS WRONG TO THE BONE MY FRIEND IF YOU ARE BORN A CATHOLIC YOU DIE A CATHOLIC NOW THAT IS A CHOICE A REAL CHOICE YOU SHOULD NOT MAKE EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE YOUR RELIGION TOO BAD SO SAD
YOU ARE ALREADY BAPTISED IF YOU BAPTISE AGAIN IS INVALID YOU SHOULD NOT LET ANYBODY BRAIN WASH YOU WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGION NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU WILL BE A JEW AND THEN AN ATHIEST OR NO MAYBE BUDDIST AND YOU ARE GOING TO END UP NOT KNOWING WHO YOU REALLY ARE OR WHAT TO BELIEVE- BE&DIE CATHOLIC
@PALOMITA694 Are you catholic? What scripture do you have to back this up? I though it was Christ that saved us, not what denomination we belong or once belonged to. For to live in Christ is gain, to die as a catholic is secondary. Be and die to Christ.
Hi girard! I just want to say how encouraging this video was. My boyfriend is prebysterian and right now we're struggling through this whole infant baptism thing. I KNOW from scripture that it is wrong- it's a completely different gospel. Your video just really encouraged me to stay strong and stand firm in what I believe, even if I do have to break up with him.
@julyruby103 Well,don't break up solely because of that....The Bible also talks about the unbelieving spouse...It doesn't say to leave them....Even believers disagree on one doctrine or another from time to time....God bless you my friend
Hi girard! I just want to say how encouraging this video was. My boyfriend is prebysterian and right now we're struggling through this whole infant baptism thing. I KNOW from scripture that it is wrong- it's a completely different gospel. Your video just really encouraged me to stay strong and stand firm in what I believe.
Hi girard! I just want to say how encouraging this video was. My boyfriend is prebysterian and right now we're struggling through this whole infant baptism thing. I KNOW from scripture that it is wrong- it's a completely different gospel. Your video just really encouraged me to stay strong and stand firm in what I believe.
Here's a thought question. Can we all have different beliefs about salvation, wear different names, and interpret the bible differently and all be members of the same church? If the answer is yes than what about Ephesians 4:4-6 Can one group say that baptism is part of salvation and another group say it is not and both be of the same spirit? For by one spirit were we all baptized into one body whether we be Jew or Gentile, bond or free and have all made to drink of the same spirit.
I agree with you...you back everything up with scripture....the word of God. People can argue all they want but if you follow scripture, Gods word is stronger than anything else. God bless you for posting!
Brother, If u r not following the Catholic heresy, please lose the crucifix behind you. Christ Jesus defeated death; He's no longer "cursed on the tree" Gal 3:13.
2nd, God could condemn an infant. "though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad--in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls. As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."Rom9:11,13 - John 3:18 - Ps51:5
y should an infant be baptized they can not comet a sin the can not make sin and let alone they are born into sin but they need to grow older to think about it becasue realy gettting baptized anit gone do sqawt if u do something very dumb but yes is dose depend on religon
@MrPreacherman94 well u see god want forgive for everything like muder but who knows depends only if you mean it im christain and everything but i was raised in a family that tought me that if you shall muder even if baptized it want help or kill yourself but thats only my belifs that ive lerned and that i dont half to get batizad im not saying it want help that jus my relgion ok so please understand
@EmoDotFrezzel I understand that you were raised to believe that way, and I respect that. It's just that the first thought that comes to my mind is that Moses was a murderer, however through God he became a great man. God is greater than any sin and through baptism all sins are forgiven. In baptism we are united to Christ and have been buried and raised to new life with Him.
@EmoDotFrezzel well that was my life that was my tought me and i realy want change my opion but u i know that its in the bible but that well what i was tought so thanks 4 unferstanding
In Acts, Peter and Philip were talking to adults that were to be converted. An adult that wants to be baptized must repent. A child that is baptized with its family does not as it has no actual sin only Original Sin. I dare you to find a verse that says someone was not baptized because they were to young to understand it. You won't find it because there isnt one.
@teriiura The point i was making was that there is no verse in scripture that states that infant baptism never occurred. There are multiple verses involving the baptism of entire families. Very likely to include children.
Note that the baptism of John you read of in Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:5, and Luke 3:7-8 is not the same as a Christian baptism. If you read the entire verse (Mt 3:11) you'll see it states that Jesus will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. (a Christian baptism)
umm..what about Acts 2:38-39 which reads: " Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call." (King James Version)
@teriiura In Mt 19:14 Jesus says "let the Children be, do not keep them back from me; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." A parallel text says: "then they brought little children to him (Lk 18:15) and following this is the same words in Matthew 19:14. Some translations even use the term "infants". Besides, Paul notes that Baptism has replaced circumcision(col 2:11-12) which was traditionally done to infants shortly after birth. Circumcision of adults was rare under the Old Law.
@mtregi children are different from infant.Let the children to come.He didn't say "bring the children to me".These children made the decision,infant cannot make a decision.
Some translations? please use the greek and hebrew version and it will be clear to you.
@teriiura In Luke 18:15 says, "Now they were bringing even infants to him" (Greek, Prosepheron de auto kai ta brepha). The Greek word brepha means "infants"—children who are quite unable to approach Christ on their own and who could not possibly make a conscious decision to "accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior."
@teriiura the laying of the hands or "touching" is a sign of blessing but is also part of baptism and is a precursor to the eventual baptism of water. I'm sure that anyone would agree that Jesus laying his hand upon anyone would be considered on of the most explicit signs of salvation and particular favor with God.
On another note, if Jesus has "never baptized nobody" then why should it even be practiced today. WIth that logic baptism shouldn't even be part of Christianity.
@mtregi So an infant has accepted Jesus Christ as saviour for their sins and given their life to him? That is the pre_requisite to being baptized by water. It is a ritual that we shall perform to show our commitment to Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit washes you free from sin. I hope that you are not implying that every infant is fully aware of this commitment to Jesus Christ. It is only of an "apostate" church that would let you believe something like this to be true.
@RaptureOrTribulation Paul notes that baptism has replaced circumcision (Col. 2:11–12). In that passage, he refers to baptism as "the circumcision of Christ" and "the circumcision made without hands." Of course, usually only infants were circumcised under the Old Law; circumcision of adults was rare, since there were few converts to Judaism. If Paul meant to exclude infants, he would not have chosen circumcision as a parallel for baptism. Christianity would be nothing without it Jewish roots.
@mtregi Does that mean I can make up my own religion too just as you have? Can I take passages and relate assumptions to them to fit my own religious needs and desires? You baptists do not preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ. By Grace through faith are we saved and nothing more.
In John 3:16 does it say "forsoever who believes in him and is baptized shall have eternal life"? No!! Did the theif on the cross have water baptism while nailed to the cross for Jesus to tell him he would be joining him in paradise? We are told that we should get baptized in scripture but never that it is mandatory for salvation. During the 7 year Tribulation period, those that make a decision to be beheaded in the name of the Lord wont have time to schedule their baptism. GET Real!!!
@mtregi Are you truely lost or are you really not understanding this? Jesus didn't need baptized to wash away sin. He had no sin. Jesus' ministry started upon the baptism in the Jordon River. He then had the Holy spirit upon him and therefore went to the wilderness for 40 days to fast and pray. Before his Holy baptism, he could not start his ministry. He needed to be joined spirtually with the Father by the Holy Spirit. They are the trinity, 3 in 1.
@RaptureOrTribulation So if baptism is meant to wash away sin, which Jesus did not need, then it is needed by those who do sin in order for them to be cleansed of sin to be joined spiritually with the trinity and have salvation? So in effect baptism, if possible, is necessary for the Holy Spirit to come upon us like it did with Jesus?
@mtregi No, it is not needed for us to wash away sin! Through faith in Jesus Christ are we saved from our sins. period. Baptism is a ceremony. It will bring the Holy Spirit upon you to help you to repent from sin. We are told that we should be baptized but in no way is it necessary for salvation. Period.
@RaptureOrTribulation but you just said that "Jesus didn't need baptism to wash away sin" which implies that others do, or have you just been caught contradicting yourself?
@mtregi No, John the Baptist was sent by GOD as the forerunner to Jesus. He was to bring repentace of the people and to let them know they were sinners. That is good when the saviour is coming right behind him to save them from their sins. John the baptist and GOD used baptism to convict people of their sins for repentance. It in no way ever saved them from their sins. Only Jesus can save you. .
@RaptureOrTribulation i know that that it doesn't save you, but I'm saying that it is required of Christians who are able to do so. In the old Testament God required all Jews to become circumcised as a mark to distinguish them as Gods people. Once Jesus came, he expanded Gods kingdom to ALL people, so now circumcision is no longer required, but baptism is now used as the act of initiation into Christ's Body. I am not saying that it in itself saves you, just that it is required as proof of faith.
@mtregi I will agree with you there. Baptism does prove your faith. But truely proving your faith is done by your good works. Though it is not needed for salvation, you prove your faith in Jesus because of your fruit you bare as a result of your faith. Jesus has made this very well known in his word to us many times. I find myself daily fighting sins that are in my mind such as lust and anger. But the Holy Spirit is there to tell me to stop it...and I do.
@RaptureOrTribulation John the baptist up until the day in the Jordon River with Jesus was baptizing people to have repentance from their sins. These people had not the Holy spirit in them. This was a prepartion for the coming of Jesus, so they knew that they had sin to be forgiven for. After Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected 3 days later. In belief in him were we saved from death from our sins. Then the baptism was for us to have the Holy Spirit help us repent from our sins.
@RaptureOrTribulation So then baptism is needed because it's what sends the Holy Spirit upon you, and you need the Holy Spirit in you to make and act of faith. And only through faith can we be saved?
@mtregi The Holt Spirit works in our hearts to convict us of sin. We can have certain quantities of his presence so to speak. There are times when He breaks you and you feel him there. It is a GREAT feeling! The Holy spirit will flee from you when you willfully sin. GOD hates sins. He wont be totally gone but He lets you know why he pulled himself back from you. The Baptism brings Him in you at a higher quantity and he is showing you your sins and convicting you so you can repent.
@RaptureOrTribulation I agree, but i don't think that GOD hates sin since GOD is LOVE and by his very nature won't contradict his BEING throught the act of hating. We know that sin is the result of man fallen state and GOD allowed for sin to exist so that we remain fully dependent on him for repentance in our effort to return to a state of grace which is why we follow Jesus' example.
@RaptureOrTribulation Since Psalm was written before Jesus, then that excerpt is appropriate during that time in which the people of Israel broke their covenant with GOD and Described GOD as being pissed-off on numerous occasions. Jesus is the new covenant, the "Torah fulfilled," and he himself being GOD revealed to us GOD's nature which is self-giving love. I'm just saying that GOD and hate should not be used in the same sentence since it is a contradiction in terms.
@RaptureOrTribulation Yes, but our understanding of Christ deepens as we are guided by the Holy Spirit. Dark is the absences of Light. Evil is the absence of Good. Hate is the absence of Love. Neither can exist simultaneously. If GOD is LOVE then he cannot have Hate lest he ceases to exist.
To set the record straight. It is believed that GOD is merciful and holds those accountable for their beliefs that are capable of making that decision in a mature manner. Mentally handicapped as well as babies and children have not reached accountability for a mature decision to be made. Our GOD is righteous and merciful and full of grace and can be realized that he will not hold those that cannot make a mature decision of faith accountable.
@teriiura An infant doesn't know who Jesus is! How can you baptized in celebration that you are born again of the spirit when you have no idea what that is???
@teriiura What kind of trouble are you trying to stir up? Why would you ask me that? You seem to be reading on here. If you have, have i not preached the gospel appropriately? Or do you have contradictions to GOD's word? If you are a bretheren in Christ, then stop with the confrontive remarks. It is not of GOD but of Satan.
@RaptureOrTribulation trouble?i am not giving you any trouble.I am just telling you ,the bible doesn't teach to baptize infant.And if you do ,it not of the bible....where does it come from then?
@teriiura it does come from the bible, which we previously discussed and have yet to receive a convincing reason to differ , and it also comes from early Christian documents.Origen, for instance, wrote in the third century that "according to the usage of the Church, baptism is given even to infants" (Holilies on Leviticus, 8:3:11 [A.D. 244]).
@mtregi mmmh!!! that passage refers to the tabernacle....not infant.Early Christian ,before ,after ,revised....what import is what the bible teach,and the bible doesn't teach that
@teriiura okay, how do you know that? you didn't write it and it is pretty explicit. in regards to Bible passages, we just went over this and i also provided you with the Greek translation of Jesus attitude towards infants which you requested yet you refuse to defend your position with sound evidence and insist on criticizing the position of others. if you want we can go over it again in any language, Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, that you wish. Or even site more historical Christian Documents :)
@mtregi well it is quite obvious that it talks about the tabernacle...not infant baptism.How do you know?did you write it.Any language my friend ,i am a greek teacher ,and getting my master in Hebrews..no worries...let us do that
@teriiura writings of the second and early third century indicate that Christians baptized infants too. Irenaeus (c. 130–202) speaks not only of children but even of infants being "born again to God" and three passages of Origen (185–c. 254)mention infant baptism as traditional and customary.Tertullian (c. 155–230) too, while advising postponement of baptism until after marriage, mentions that it was customary to baptise infants, with sponsors speaking on their behalf.
@mtregi you know i really don't care what early Christian did or did not...all i care is what the bible teach.People used the bible to control people,as baptizing infant to force them staying in their religion for example.I am just telling you simply what the bible teach.
@teriiura Infant baptism started in the Pegan Roman Catholic Church and migrated over to the other apostate churches as Satan was able to leaven his way into those churches. No where in the bible is it to baptized anyone without their accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour first.
@mtregi You ask a typical atheist question that wants to bring doubt to believers or potential believers. Who is motivating your questions? Could it be Satan? To answer your question. Did Satan accept Jesus as his saviour and give his life to him? Of course not! Besides the fact is that Satan and his angels are already destined to the lake of fire and have no way to salvation.
@RaptureOrTribulation How can someone give their life to another without their being some form of act involved. Just proclaiming you have faith in GOD is pointless if it does not result in good works. So the claim that fait alone is enough is absurd if you do nothing with it. Even Jesus performed works of of good with his faith. Only then did that lead to his Messianic act of dying on the cross and his eventual resurrection.
@mtregi When someone accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour from their sins, the Holy Spirit enters into them. They are then "born again" of the Spirit. A true sign the Holy Spirit is in them is from that point on, one finds the Holy Spirit convicting you of sin inside you. You see a change in that persons life. It is an amazing thing. Good works are performed due to the Holy Spirit guiding us in our day to day lives. That is why Jesus said "you can tell a tree by it's fruit".
Those that have the Holy Spirit in them have good wroks, those who have not the spirit do not produce good works. That is why you see so many proclaimer of being Christian when they have not truely given their life to Jesus.
Luke 6:43-44 (King James Version) 43For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
44For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
@RaptureOrTribulation yes thats true, but doesn't that mean that both faith and works are co-requisites to salvation since one is lost without the other. Works that are not guided by faith are empty and Faith without fruitful acts is meaningless. Don't we need both and not just one or the other. People are guided by the holy spirit and do have the capacity for the gift of salvation but isn't it possible to reject the holy spirit and salvation during times where we behave Godlessly.
@mtregi No, no co-requistes. Your faith is only what is needed. Good works are a result or byproduct of faith due to the possession of the Holy spirit inside you convicting you of bad works leading you to good works. Yes, one can reject the convictions of the Holy spirit, then the Holy Spirit will eventually leave you. He will continue to try to re-commit you, but eventually if you reject him one too many times, that will be considered blaspheme of the holy spirit and he will leave U 4ever.
@RaptureOrTribulation But rejecting convictions suggests that their is an act involved which rejects faith in Jesus; such as murder. The doctrine of "sola fide" is misrepresents the wholeness that Christianity entails. It was coined up as propaganda against the Catholic Church, which was wrongfully selling indulgences as a means of salvation. Sola Fide definitely put practices into perspective but is a phrase that can be misleading to Christians who are weak in their faith and understanding.
@mtregi Accepting Jesus Christ is a sincere acceptance and belief in him as Lord and that he died for your sins and that he raised up on the 3rd day. By doing this, you are knowingly commiting your life to him and want His Holy Spirit to guide your life. GOD's will is your goal then, not your own. Let not my will but GOD's will be done. Amen.
There is a sinners prayer that can be prayed sincerely that will commit yourself to him. Look for it on my website at the bottm of the long page...go to my youetube channel for my web address.
@teriiura a child will only have to become baptized again later in their life once they fully understand what sin is and why Jesus died for them and the commitment that they are making to him. Some children do actually understand that and so yes they can be baptized by water if they fully do understand.
@teriiura I meant that intended for the child that has been baptized but yet has not commited their life to Jesus Christ or at least is not of a mature mindset to understand what being saved from their sins means. Common sense tells us to get rebaptized once we have become born again. I was baptized when I was 14 and yet was not born again and had no idea what it meant. I was baptized again after I became born again much later in life because I understood that my first baptism meant nothing.
You have to understand the meaning of baptism,it means a proclamation of being born again.
I have then a question for you.Hitler was raised into a catholic home,therefore baptized...where is he now?knowing he was baptized.Baptism doesn't save.Baptism is a convenant you make with God.Not your parents who makes that convenant between you and God,and later on respect it.
@teriiura It is believed and told that Hitler was a member of the Illuminati whom worship Satan. Just because his parents may have baptized him as a baby, never saved him.He, as an accountable mature individual, would need to believe in Jeuss commit his life to Jesus Christ.
No one but GOD knows how Hitler actually died. So no one knows if before death he gave himself to the Lord, but Satan worshipers typically dont. I would say their is a good chance he died unsaved and is in Hell right now.
I am in total agreeemtn with you theprolifeguy. The apostacy that many churches participate in with infant baptism is originated by Satan. He has his hands in many ways into the church to decieve many to damnation. Many parents take a sigh of relief when their child is baptized.They receive a false sense of security by this. The deception is that their salvation is for sure because of that infant baptism...what a lie they have believed. True salvation is believing in Jesus and being born again.
But then again, neither is any kind of baptism. It's just dunking a person in water or dabbing a bit on their head... the rest of the word just calls this washing up.
What a waste. To think you've actually spent time mulling this thought over and produced a video about it...
? do u half to get baptizad? and tell the truth cause i got counfussed pleasez tell me cause people in my family said u dont half to and i dont want to get baptizad
The idea of infant baptism is not canonnical, but a recent thing to placate ignorant parents. Children do not need to be baptised, according to the bible. Jesus said "Suffer the children to come unto me." He did not say "Suffer only the baptised children...". Children get a free pass. Once they are old enough to be baptised (they are not considered "adult", or old enough to work), THEN they need to be baptised. Oh, and the other thing, not pro life until the fetal brain has formed. Once it has..
The answer is no. The bible is clear that Baptism is the first act of obedience AFTER salvation. Infants are not in innocence and have no need of salvation. It is a heresy of the Catholic Church to Baptize infants, because they falsely teach that Baptism is membership to the church, and church membership equals heaven. Both are false.
A few dabs of water on a kids head is nothing but a silly attempt at indoctrinating yet another kid in to the cult of their brainwashed parents. This is 2010 for fuck's sake.
Great video! I was sprinkled as a baby in a infant baptist denomination, and I became truly baptized 3 years ago after I became convinced of the truth of baptism only for those who repent of their sin. Anabaptists unite!!! :-)
Acts 2:39, "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 22:16, "And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord."
They say these passage prove that baptism is a universal command and not restricted to adults. So, my question is this. HOW can an infant know the Lord has CALLED them, and how can an infant ARISE and the CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD?
Matthew 3:7,8 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? ((Bring forth therefore fruits meet for REPENTANCE:))
John wasn't going to allow them to sneak in and be baptized without meeting the necessary conditions God had set up in advance for baptism. WHY SHOULD YOU?
I have the Catholic bible. It has seven more books than Protestant bibles. Your reading from a Protestant bible, doesn't that make you a Protestant. The Catholic Church is all about the Eucharist and a family of faith. If we all believe different factors within Christianity, and read from different Christian literature, then how can we be separate Christians? The wholeness of the Church is important as stated in the bible: If two or more of you gather in My name, it shall be done in heaven.
@theprolifeguy Eucharist symbolizes communion with the community with the holy spirit. Don't you want togetherness with a large Christian family with the holy spirit? Together, we can do this. I'm totally ok with different denominations, as long as we love each other and praise Jesus.
@1standupforchrist Sure,I have no problem Catholics or any other denomination..We are all free to practice as we will....I just don't agree with infant baptism & some other man made traditions
pie jesu, ora por Jerard Paul. Now I'm not judging you, and I'm sure you love Jesus very much, but don't you think you left the Catholic Church because you didn't fully understand it? We get baptized as infants, then confirm ourselves when we feel we're ready, which is what you did, in a sense. You confirmed that you acknowledge and believe in Jesus. But after you're baptized once, you have a permanent mark on your soul. We believe in on baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
Excellent words. The implication is that if young child dies and is not baptised then they are going to hell. That is a wicked thought. The blood of Christ automatically cancels the sin of Adam that plagues all mankind, all that is left is the individual's choice to be saved or damned - to repent from wickedness, put their trust in Christ and to be baptised as a sign of the new covenant (which is not always possible), or not.
All children are pure in Christ until they have knowingly sinned.
I'm not an expert theologian by any means, but do you even have to be babtised to be saved? I remember from the gospels the story of Jesus on the cross. One of the others being crucified asked if Jesus would remember him when he goes to his kingdom. Jesus responds by saying "today you will be with me in paradise". I'm sure that gentleman was probably never babtised. Just wondering what your opinion is on that...
Can you show me where I can be baptized? I'm in Jamaica, NewYork
InstrumentofGod360 2 weeks ago
The sprinkling of water is an election according to 1peter
InstrumentofGod360 2 weeks ago
I agree, see the word says we, MUST be baptized, so it is necential for salvation.
InstrumentofGod360 2 weeks ago
Not only is it not viable, infant baptism is utterly meaningless. Religious rituals performed on someone not of their own will or by their own decision is utterly meaningless. I was baptized as a baby but now I'm an atheist. The only thing of significance to me (as related by my mother) was that I shit my diaper as it was being performed.
sweetsweatyfeet 5 months ago
I agree 110%! My fiance wants our 10 month old son baptized because he fears he won't be accepted into heaven if something should happen. I told him EXACTLY what you have said here in this video. Thank you.
I also agree about the denomination. I was raised baptist (but never baptized) and I will be bringing our son up the same way.
pinkflyingcow55 9 months ago
i wish my husbad would watch this.
leslie8721 9 months ago
"...and since the holy Christian Church cannot perish until the end of the world, they must acknowledge that such infant baptism is pleasing to God. For He can never be opposed to Himself, or support falsehood and wickedness, or for its promotion impart His grace and Spirit."
Keep up the Pro-Life argument, btw. I think it's crazy that a society that can claim a bacterium found in space is life can't recognize a human infant growing the in the womb.
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
One last thing from Martin Luther's Cathecism: "if God did not accept the baptism of infants, He would not give the Holy Ghost nor any of His gifts to any of them; in short, during this long time unto this day no man upon earth could have been a Christian. Now, since God confirms Baptism by the gifts of His Holy Ghost, as is plainly perceptible in some of the church fathers, as St. Bernard, Gerson, John Hus, and others, who were baptized in infancy...
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
To close, Baptism is not salvation, but it is necessary for salvation. It is a cleansing so that you can make a proper petition to God as part of His children (1 Peter 3:21). For even the Baptized are called to repentance (Acts 8:14-22) as Peter refrains from giving Simon the anointing of the Holy Spirit (as done in the Catholic church). Jesus and the apostles were Jewish, and from a Jewish perspective, it would have been unthinkable to exclude infants and children from God's Covenant kingdom.
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
Gen. 17:12, Lev. 12:3 - these texts show the circumcision of eight-day old babies as the way of entering into the Old Covenant - Col 2:11-12 - however, baptism is the new "circumcision" for all people of the New Covenant. Therefore, baptism is for babies as well as adults. God did not make His new Covenant narrower than the old Covenant. To the contrary, He made it wider, for both Jews and Gentiles, infants and adults.
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
Mark 9:22-25 - Jesus exercises the child's unclean spirit based on the father's faith. This healing is again based on another's faith.
1 Cor. 7:14 – Paul says that children are sanctified by God through the belief of only one of their parents.
Exodus 12:24-28 - the Passover was based on the parent's faith. If they did not kill and eat the lamb, their first-born child died.
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
Acts 16:15 - further, Paul baptizes the household based on Lydia's faith, not the faith of the members of the household. This demonstrates that parents can present their children for baptism based on the parents' faith, not the children's faith.
Acts 16:30-33 - it was only the adults who were candidates for baptism that had to profess a belief in Jesus. This is consistent with the Church's practice of instructing catechumens before baptism. A tradition from the early centuries of church history
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
Acts 10:47-48 - Peter baptized the entire house of Cornelius, which generally included infants and young children. There is not one word in Scripture about baptism being limited to adults.
Acts 16:15 - Paul baptized Lydia and her entire household. The word "household" comes from the Greek word "oikos" which is a household that includes infants and children.
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
Acts 2:39 - Peter then says baptism is specifically given to children as well as adults. “Those far off” refers to those who were at their “homes” (primarily infants and children). God's covenant family includes children. The word "children" that Peter used comes from the Greek word "teknon" which also includes infants.
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
Acts 2:38 - Peter says to the multitude, "Repent and be baptized.." Protestants use this verse to prove one must be a believer (not an infant) to be baptized. But the Greek translation literally says, "If you repent, then each one who is a part of you and yours must each be baptized” (“Metanoesate kai bapistheto hekastos hymon.”) This, contrary to what Protestants argue, actually proves that babies are baptized based on their parents’ faith. This is confirmed in the next verse.
kaegrokothar 9 months ago
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kaegrokothar 9 months ago
i just made a video response so everyone can hear exactly what chapter 3 of matthew says.
3emperorsproduction 10 months ago
Origen (circa 244AD): "The Church received from the Apostles the practice of baptizing even infants"
Also, I think it's funny you will accept baptizism from any random Christian but deem it unworthy when it comes from someone with apostolic succession.
Link0126 11 months ago 2
@Link0126 You mean to say the church that worships Mary,and took the second commandment way (exodus 20 4 to 6) and practiced indulgences to raise money. That made husband and wises feel guilty for having sex. That told Castrati they cannot marry, but still made them sing in their churches. That burned witches. That has members practicing self flagellation. That prescribes a certain ammount of prayers according to the severity of sins for penance. Is the church with apostolic succession?
medusa210562 3 months ago
@medusa210562 Yes, the Catholic Church has clear apostolic succession as can be historically verified. They don't however worship Mary. They are 3 ways that the commandments have been numbered throughout history. We are told there are 10 but in the text we aren't given any actual way to group them, we have to do that ourselves. The Catholic Church has always used the format laid out by Augustine which combines your 2nd and 1st into one. Judaism does the same thing.
Link0126 3 months ago
@Link0126 Do young people worship Michael Jackson? They would say no. They don't rationally decide to worship Michael Jackson. But whatever we elevate about ourselves we worship. Anything that was created or anyone that was created if we elevate it we worship. Ask yourself a simple question would you like me to kneel to you? In revelation John kneels to an angle and the angle says get up I am a servant like you.( or something lie that) and in acts Peter stops someone from kneeling to him.
medusa210562 3 months ago
Luke 3: read further on to verse 15 "As the people were in expectation, and all men questioned in their hearts concerning John, whether perhaps he were the Christ. John answered them saying "I baptize you with water..." So they were baptized. Back to verse 12 the people come to be baptized and he tells them what they have to do to be repentant. He baptizes them unto repentance. Furthermore, these people had no idea who Jesus was...
Link0126 11 months ago
"I baptize you unto repentance" Unto= to / until. That verse is not requiring belief for baptism. If anything it's saying the opposite of what your saying. That the person is being baptized for repentance, or until repentance. It aligns just fine with the notion of infant baptism.
Link0126 11 months ago
@Link0126 so you think a baby just born can lie, or say a cuss word or steal? if they dont know anything yet at all because they where just born!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3emperorsproduction 10 months ago
@3emperorsproduction No, but they are born into original sin so baptism is still benefitical. Also, baptism was always understood as the initiation into the Christian faith. It is a sacrament, meaning something spiritual actually happens, not just an outward sign.
Link0126 10 months ago
@Link0126 theres no such thing as original sin, thats no where found in the bible, if you can prove it then prove it. adam and eve made the choice to sin. its not original. you cant be born into something you choose. every single thing you do is by your choice, even if your mom or dad tells you to do something you are still doing by choice no one is making you do anything except you.
3emperorsproduction 10 months ago
@3emperorsproduction Scripture: "I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me." (Ps. 51:5)
"But death reigned from Adam unto Moses, even over them also who have not sinned after the similitude of the transgression of Adam, who is a figure of him who was to come" (Rom. 5:14).
"For as by the disobedience of one man, many were made sinners; so also by the obedience of one, many shall be made just" (Rom.5:19).
Link0126 10 months ago
@Link0126 I don't care that the "fathers" say. the bible doeesn't ask me to do anything about the sin I was conceived in. Even Jesus says something about "they no sin because they don't know" There is an original sin. But I only have to confess my actual sin.
medusa210562 3 months ago
@3emperorsproduction Early Christians: "Every soul, then, by reason of its birth, has its nature in Adam until it is born again in Christ; moreover, it is unclean all the while that it remains without this regeneration; and because unclean, it is actively sinful, and suffuses even the flesh (by reason of their conjunction) with its own shame." Tertullian, (A.D. 208).
Link0126 10 months ago
"...no one is held back from Baptism and grace, how much more, then, should an infant not be held back, who, having but recently been born, has done no sin, except that, born of the flesh according to Adam. He has contracted the contagion of that old death from his first being born" Cyprian, (A.D. 250).
"Evil was mixed with our nature from the beginning…Thus sin takes its rise in us as we are born; it grows with us and keeps us company till life's term." Gregory of Nyssa, (ante A.D. 394).
Link0126 10 months ago
but I think you are misunderstanding what original sin is: "In the theology of the Catholic Church, original sin is regarded as the general condition of sinfulness, that is (the absence of holiness and perfect charity) into which humans are born, distinct from the actual sins that a person commits. This teaching explicitly states that "original sin does not have the character of a personal fault in any of Adam's descendants". -wiki
Link0126 10 months ago
it is more a distortion of our nature in the sense that unlike Adam and Eve we are not in God's grace from the moment of creation. We first enter into this grace when we are baptized.
Link0126 10 months ago
" I believe, I believe"
AkhilleusWeeps 11 months ago
This is a perfect example of someone who misunderstands the Old Covenant family of God, and the New Covenant family of God. This is also a perfect example of how you become your own authority interpreting Scripture while ignoring early Church history.
Go ahead and exclude part of your family from the New Covenant family of God.
xzmn61 11 months ago 2
infant baptism is the most ridiculous doctrine i have ever heard of. if u baptize infants, then i really feel for u. u have either been brainwashed or have no reasoning skills.
Keenanville09 1 year ago
It understates your analogy...A blessing is not a baptism...in your comment you said you support infant & believers baptism...But there is only one baptism....The one where the requirements are to have repentence & faith...Infants can't do that
theprolifeguy 1 year ago 3
@theprolifeguy, so you are saying faith is not miraculous, infants do not have the capacity to believe, I invite you to site a text that supports this rational position. If belief is miraculous as scripture teaches, why can infants not also participate in this miracle? your argument is base in reason not scripture, and since reason is your guide how can you logically exclude children from households that were baptized in scripture, and on what basis do you exclude anyone from all nations
rmp1517 6 months ago
What sins do you think an infant (say 1 week old) has been able to commit?
lizzand 1 year ago
One of the things that I see as a case for Infant Baptism is when Mary and Joseph took Jesus to the temple to be blessed. This is what Christian parents to with their children. Infant Baptism is the parents promising to raise their child in the Lord, for the church to help them raise that child in the Lord, and to ask God's Blessing upon this child. I support both Infant and Believers Baptism.
OneFaithMinistries 1 year ago
@OneFaithMinistries Blessed....Yes
theprolifeguy 1 year ago
@theprolifeguy ON the subject of Infant Baptism, it is going to depend on what denomination you are in. In a Methodist, Presbyterian, Reformed, Moravian, and Wesleyan churches would be the ones where it is symbolic, and a blessing. We should not fight on this issue.
OneFaithMinistries 1 year ago
@OneFaithMinistries Even to Jesus there is a difference between a blessing & a baptism as he still felt the need to be baptized by John the Baptist...
theprolifeguy 1 year ago
@theprolifeguy Ok. I do not see where Christ being baptized has anything to do with the subject at hand.
OneFaithMinistries 1 year ago
@OneFaithMinistries its showing an example of what we need to do, babies cannot sin, beause they do not know what they are doing.
3emperorsproduction 10 months ago
ur finger sign they will say is a sign of worshipers of the devil.
ody4rmzion 1 year ago
i don't think babies should be baptized because they are not choosing the religion they are being given it without a choice.it is better to let a child grow up and chose any religion,if any,that they wish to follow.if you ask someone that was baptized,what made you believe in your religion,they must say my parents baptized me i did not chose it.
buzzman849 1 year ago
Get Baptized into Jesus name the receive the Holy Ghost. This process changes a person from DEATH to LIFE. Jesus said to follow Him in the regeneration. He said a man must be born again. He told Peter to strengthen his bretheren after the conversion. All three mean the same, change from death to life. The sin of the world is death. Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world. Jesus said, enter into life, follow his commandments, then receive eternal life. read Romans 6
wilby1414 1 year ago
Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Luke 5:32I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
The righteous need not repent, babies are righteous, All need to be baptised.
wilby1414 1 year ago
@wilby1414 If you truely understood what baptism does for a person then you would understand the need for babies to be baptised.
Repentance is just an acknowledgement of living a life without God and that you want to changed the course of your life from sinful living. ONLY sinners need to repent, not the righteous or babies. The sooner one gets baptized the better. Like I said, if you really knew what baptism does for you then you would understand.
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wilby1414 1 year ago
When did baptism start forgiving sin? God forgives sin. That's it.
Mark 2:5. Was the paralytic baptised for his sins to be forgiven? No, Jesus forgave him because of their faith. Faith in God & repentance is how sin is forgiven.
Some sins not forgiven? Rubbish!
All sins but one forgiven.
Matthew 12:31 : "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. "
Just read your bible.
zsifk 1 year ago
@zsifk There is a sin which you can not pray for. You are born in death and you must change from death to life. Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world. Want eternal life? Then choose LIFE! Read Romans 6.
Baptism in Jesus name then receive the Holy Ghost, this is life! Reject the Holy Ghost and that is death! Move from DEATH to LIFE. There is forgiveness for personal sin but as for the sin of death we are born with? We must be reborn into LIFE! Baptism into Jesus name!!
wilby1414 1 year ago
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me – Psalm 51:5. David discusses the issue of being "knit together" in sin. Sin is not an action, but a part of who we are. Only through redemption in Christ are we saved. I don't know where I stand...
As for the church who charges $500. It is not a problem with "infant baptism" per se. It's a HUGE problem of taking advantage of sacraments. Shame on them. Sacraments are a gift from Christ, not monetary means of a church.
mttvndrr 1 year ago
A question beyond infant baptism, which I do believe is a justified and biblical practice.However, my question is if your opinion is that babies do not go to heaven after premature death. Belief in Jesus is required to get to heaven for he is the only way to get into heaven. Since babies cannot believe, they cannot be saved and therefore cannot go to heaven. This argument, and correct me if I am wrong, would follow this logical structure. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks!
mttvndrr 1 year ago
@mttvndrr I believe children are innocent & will pass directly into heaven.....Even when aborted......There are many verses in the bible supporting the fact that God knew you long before you were in the womb......
theprolifeguy 1 year ago
Thanks for the reply. I am extremely excited about how passionate your are about being pro life, and I appreciate that you consider a fetus a baby and that you believe conception is the start of life. This being said, I am confused about your premise that children are innocent. How do you define innocent? Do you mean sinless or something else? Thanks again for your reply and video posts.
mttvndrr 1 year ago
@mttvndrr If a baby dies on the first day of birth,is God going to punish it?..I realize that some denominations espouse the "Original Sin" doctrine but I don't believe it...Its become a way to secure infant baptisms....By the way,how much does your church charge for a baptism?....There is one around here that charges over 500.00....I can see why they would want to baptize babies
theprolifeguy 1 year ago 2
CHANGING RELIGION IS WRONG TO THE BONE MY FRIEND IF YOU ARE BORN A CATHOLIC YOU DIE A CATHOLIC NOW THAT IS A CHOICE A REAL CHOICE YOU SHOULD NOT MAKE EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE YOUR RELIGION TOO BAD SO SAD
YOU ARE ALREADY BAPTISED IF YOU BAPTISE AGAIN IS INVALID YOU SHOULD NOT LET ANYBODY BRAIN WASH YOU WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGION NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU WILL BE A JEW AND THEN AN ATHIEST OR NO MAYBE BUDDIST AND YOU ARE GOING TO END UP NOT KNOWING WHO YOU REALLY ARE OR WHAT TO BELIEVE- BE&DIE CATHOLIC
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 Are you catholic? What scripture do you have to back this up? I though it was Christ that saved us, not what denomination we belong or once belonged to. For to live in Christ is gain, to die as a catholic is secondary. Be and die to Christ.
mttvndrr 1 year ago
Hi girard! I just want to say how encouraging this video was. My boyfriend is prebysterian and right now we're struggling through this whole infant baptism thing. I KNOW from scripture that it is wrong- it's a completely different gospel. Your video just really encouraged me to stay strong and stand firm in what I believe, even if I do have to break up with him.
julyruby103 1 year ago
@julyruby103 Well,don't break up solely because of that....The Bible also talks about the unbelieving spouse...It doesn't say to leave them....Even believers disagree on one doctrine or another from time to time....God bless you my friend
theprolifeguy 1 year ago
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Hi girard! I just want to say how encouraging this video was. My boyfriend is prebysterian and right now we're struggling through this whole infant baptism thing. I KNOW from scripture that it is wrong- it's a completely different gospel. Your video just really encouraged me to stay strong and stand firm in what I believe.
julyruby103 1 year ago
Hi girard! I just want to say how encouraging this video was. My boyfriend is prebysterian and right now we're struggling through this whole infant baptism thing. I KNOW from scripture that it is wrong- it's a completely different gospel. Your video just really encouraged me to stay strong and stand firm in what I believe.
julyruby103 1 year ago
Here's a thought question. Can we all have different beliefs about salvation, wear different names, and interpret the bible differently and all be members of the same church? If the answer is yes than what about Ephesians 4:4-6 Can one group say that baptism is part of salvation and another group say it is not and both be of the same spirit? For by one spirit were we all baptized into one body whether we be Jew or Gentile, bond or free and have all made to drink of the same spirit.
tnlort 1 year ago
I agree with you...you back everything up with scripture....the word of God. People can argue all they want but if you follow scripture, Gods word is stronger than anything else. God bless you for posting!
navyboy77 1 year ago
I don't believe in either adult or infant baptism, but rather household baptisms. This is a more biblical model, I feel.
ExLuedenscheider 1 year ago
Brother, If u r not following the Catholic heresy, please lose the crucifix behind you. Christ Jesus defeated death; He's no longer "cursed on the tree" Gal 3:13.
2nd, God could condemn an infant. "though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad--in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls. As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."Rom9:11,13 - John 3:18 - Ps51:5
3rd Infant Baptism is not saving grace.
ONEOVER99 1 year ago
y should an infant be baptized they can not comet a sin the can not make sin and let alone they are born into sin but they need to grow older to think about it becasue realy gettting baptized anit gone do sqawt if u do something very dumb but yes is dose depend on religon
EmoDotFrezzel 1 year ago
@EmoDotFrezzel Hello. What do you mean by "gettting baptized anit gone do sqawt if u do something very dumb "? Just curious.
-Peace!
MrPreacherman94 1 year ago
@MrPreacherman94 well u see god want forgive for everything like muder but who knows depends only if you mean it im christain and everything but i was raised in a family that tought me that if you shall muder even if baptized it want help or kill yourself but thats only my belifs that ive lerned and that i dont half to get batizad im not saying it want help that jus my relgion ok so please understand
EmoDotFrezzel 1 year ago
@EmoDotFrezzel I understand that you were raised to believe that way, and I respect that. It's just that the first thought that comes to my mind is that Moses was a murderer, however through God he became a great man. God is greater than any sin and through baptism all sins are forgiven. In baptism we are united to Christ and have been buried and raised to new life with Him.
MrPreacherman94 1 year ago
@EmoDotFrezzel well that was my life that was my tought me and i realy want change my opion but u i know that its in the bible but that well what i was tought so thanks 4 unferstanding
EmoDotFrezzel 1 year ago
I do not entirely agree. I do not think we are to keep children away from Christ. But I still applaud your pro life videos.
TomStewartKilledMe 1 year ago
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In Acts, Peter and Philip were talking to adults that were to be converted. An adult that wants to be baptized must repent. A child that is baptized with its family does not as it has no actual sin only Original Sin. I dare you to find a verse that says someone was not baptized because they were to young to understand it. You won't find it because there isnt one.
anthonywaynepalmer 1 year ago 2
@anthonywaynepalmer i dare you to find a verse in the bible that baptize infant.Because there is none
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura The point i was making was that there is no verse in scripture that states that infant baptism never occurred. There are multiple verses involving the baptism of entire families. Very likely to include children.
anthonywaynepalmer 1 year ago
Note that the baptism of John you read of in Matthew 3:11, Mark 1:5, and Luke 3:7-8 is not the same as a Christian baptism. If you read the entire verse (Mt 3:11) you'll see it states that Jesus will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. (a Christian baptism)
anthonywaynepalmer 1 year ago
umm..what about Acts 2:38-39 which reads: " Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call." (King James Version)
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi you r children there means ..your descendants.When you read the bible,Jesus mention children as descendants
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura In Mt 19:14 Jesus says "let the Children be, do not keep them back from me; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." A parallel text says: "then they brought little children to him (Lk 18:15) and following this is the same words in Matthew 19:14. Some translations even use the term "infants". Besides, Paul notes that Baptism has replaced circumcision(col 2:11-12) which was traditionally done to infants shortly after birth. Circumcision of adults was rare under the Old Law.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi children are different from infant.Let the children to come.He didn't say "bring the children to me".These children made the decision,infant cannot make a decision.
Some translations? please use the greek and hebrew version and it will be clear to you.
God bless your day
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura In Luke 18:15 says, "Now they were bringing even infants to him" (Greek, Prosepheron de auto kai ta brepha). The Greek word brepha means "infants"—children who are quite unable to approach Christ on their own and who could not possibly make a conscious decision to "accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior."
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi exactly...it was to touch them.Jesus has never baptized nobody.It was to give them blessing.Not to baptize them
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura the laying of the hands or "touching" is a sign of blessing but is also part of baptism and is a precursor to the eventual baptism of water. I'm sure that anyone would agree that Jesus laying his hand upon anyone would be considered on of the most explicit signs of salvation and particular favor with God.
On another note, if Jesus has "never baptized nobody" then why should it even be practiced today. WIth that logic baptism shouldn't even be part of Christianity.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi So an infant has accepted Jesus Christ as saviour for their sins and given their life to him? That is the pre_requisite to being baptized by water. It is a ritual that we shall perform to show our commitment to Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit washes you free from sin. I hope that you are not implying that every infant is fully aware of this commitment to Jesus Christ. It is only of an "apostate" church that would let you believe something like this to be true.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
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mtregi 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation Paul notes that baptism has replaced circumcision (Col. 2:11–12). In that passage, he refers to baptism as "the circumcision of Christ" and "the circumcision made without hands." Of course, usually only infants were circumcised under the Old Law; circumcision of adults was rare, since there were few converts to Judaism. If Paul meant to exclude infants, he would not have chosen circumcision as a parallel for baptism. Christianity would be nothing without it Jewish roots.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi Does that mean I can make up my own religion too just as you have? Can I take passages and relate assumptions to them to fit my own religious needs and desires? You baptists do not preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ. By Grace through faith are we saved and nothing more.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
In John 3:16 does it say "forsoever who believes in him and is baptized shall have eternal life"? No!! Did the theif on the cross have water baptism while nailed to the cross for Jesus to tell him he would be joining him in paradise? We are told that we should get baptized in scripture but never that it is mandatory for salvation. During the 7 year Tribulation period, those that make a decision to be beheaded in the name of the Lord wont have time to schedule their baptism. GET Real!!!
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation Then why did Jesus himself get baptized if it wasn't necessary?
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi Are you truely lost or are you really not understanding this? Jesus didn't need baptized to wash away sin. He had no sin. Jesus' ministry started upon the baptism in the Jordon River. He then had the Holy spirit upon him and therefore went to the wilderness for 40 days to fast and pray. Before his Holy baptism, he could not start his ministry. He needed to be joined spirtually with the Father by the Holy Spirit. They are the trinity, 3 in 1.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation So if baptism is meant to wash away sin, which Jesus did not need, then it is needed by those who do sin in order for them to be cleansed of sin to be joined spiritually with the trinity and have salvation? So in effect baptism, if possible, is necessary for the Holy Spirit to come upon us like it did with Jesus?
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi No, it is not needed for us to wash away sin! Through faith in Jesus Christ are we saved from our sins. period. Baptism is a ceremony. It will bring the Holy Spirit upon you to help you to repent from sin. We are told that we should be baptized but in no way is it necessary for salvation. Period.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation but you just said that "Jesus didn't need baptism to wash away sin" which implies that others do, or have you just been caught contradicting yourself?
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi No, John the Baptist was sent by GOD as the forerunner to Jesus. He was to bring repentace of the people and to let them know they were sinners. That is good when the saviour is coming right behind him to save them from their sins. John the baptist and GOD used baptism to convict people of their sins for repentance. It in no way ever saved them from their sins. Only Jesus can save you. .
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation i know that that it doesn't save you, but I'm saying that it is required of Christians who are able to do so. In the old Testament God required all Jews to become circumcised as a mark to distinguish them as Gods people. Once Jesus came, he expanded Gods kingdom to ALL people, so now circumcision is no longer required, but baptism is now used as the act of initiation into Christ's Body. I am not saying that it in itself saves you, just that it is required as proof of faith.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi I will agree with you there. Baptism does prove your faith. But truely proving your faith is done by your good works. Though it is not needed for salvation, you prove your faith in Jesus because of your fruit you bare as a result of your faith. Jesus has made this very well known in his word to us many times. I find myself daily fighting sins that are in my mind such as lust and anger. But the Holy Spirit is there to tell me to stop it...and I do.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation John the baptist up until the day in the Jordon River with Jesus was baptizing people to have repentance from their sins. These people had not the Holy spirit in them. This was a prepartion for the coming of Jesus, so they knew that they had sin to be forgiven for. After Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected 3 days later. In belief in him were we saved from death from our sins. Then the baptism was for us to have the Holy Spirit help us repent from our sins.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation So then baptism is needed because it's what sends the Holy Spirit upon you, and you need the Holy Spirit in you to make and act of faith. And only through faith can we be saved?
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi The Holt Spirit works in our hearts to convict us of sin. We can have certain quantities of his presence so to speak. There are times when He breaks you and you feel him there. It is a GREAT feeling! The Holy spirit will flee from you when you willfully sin. GOD hates sins. He wont be totally gone but He lets you know why he pulled himself back from you. The Baptism brings Him in you at a higher quantity and he is showing you your sins and convicting you so you can repent.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation I agree, but i don't think that GOD hates sin since GOD is LOVE and by his very nature won't contradict his BEING throught the act of hating. We know that sin is the result of man fallen state and GOD allowed for sin to exist so that we remain fully dependent on him for repentance in our effort to return to a state of grace which is why we follow Jesus' example.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi Psalm 45:7
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation Since Psalm was written before Jesus, then that excerpt is appropriate during that time in which the people of Israel broke their covenant with GOD and Described GOD as being pissed-off on numerous occasions. Jesus is the new covenant, the "Torah fulfilled," and he himself being GOD revealed to us GOD's nature which is self-giving love. I'm just saying that GOD and hate should not be used in the same sentence since it is a contradiction in terms.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi Malachi 3:6 (King James Version) 6For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Hebrews 13:8 (King James Version) 8Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation Yes, but our understanding of Christ deepens as we are guided by the Holy Spirit. Dark is the absences of Light. Evil is the absence of Good. Hate is the absence of Love. Neither can exist simultaneously. If GOD is LOVE then he cannot have Hate lest he ceases to exist.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi Please show me your Bible scriptures that support this view.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation Where does it say that in the Bible?
mtregi 1 year ago
To set the record straight. It is believed that GOD is merciful and holds those accountable for their beliefs that are capable of making that decision in a mature manner. Mentally handicapped as well as babies and children have not reached accountability for a mature decision to be made. Our GOD is righteous and merciful and full of grace and can be realized that he will not hold those that cannot make a mature decision of faith accountable.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation God gave us also a free will.You cannot force an person to be baptized,so can't you baptize an infant,or decide for him/her.
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura An infant doesn't know who Jesus is! How can you baptized in celebration that you are born again of the spirit when you have no idea what that is???
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation that is why i don't believe in infant baptism.They have no idea of what is baptism
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura BINGO! Thay have no idea who Jesus is!
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation do you?
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura What kind of trouble are you trying to stir up? Why would you ask me that? You seem to be reading on here. If you have, have i not preached the gospel appropriately? Or do you have contradictions to GOD's word? If you are a bretheren in Christ, then stop with the confrontive remarks. It is not of GOD but of Satan.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation trouble?i am not giving you any trouble.I am just telling you ,the bible doesn't teach to baptize infant.And if you do ,it not of the bible....where does it come from then?
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura it does come from the bible, which we previously discussed and have yet to receive a convincing reason to differ , and it also comes from early Christian documents.Origen, for instance, wrote in the third century that "according to the usage of the Church, baptism is given even to infants" (Holilies on Leviticus, 8:3:11 [A.D. 244]).
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi mmmh!!! that passage refers to the tabernacle....not infant.Early Christian ,before ,after ,revised....what import is what the bible teach,and the bible doesn't teach that
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura okay, how do you know that? you didn't write it and it is pretty explicit. in regards to Bible passages, we just went over this and i also provided you with the Greek translation of Jesus attitude towards infants which you requested yet you refuse to defend your position with sound evidence and insist on criticizing the position of others. if you want we can go over it again in any language, Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, that you wish. Or even site more historical Christian Documents :)
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi well it is quite obvious that it talks about the tabernacle...not infant baptism.How do you know?did you write it.Any language my friend ,i am a greek teacher ,and getting my master in Hebrews..no worries...let us do that
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura explain how it refers to the tabernacle my friend.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi can't you read? even a first grader understand it is talking about ,how to be dressed and the sanctification before entering the tabernacle.
PATHETIC!!!!!!!
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura what text are you referring to exactly?
mtregi 1 year ago
@teriiura writings of the second and early third century indicate that Christians baptized infants too. Irenaeus (c. 130–202) speaks not only of children but even of infants being "born again to God" and three passages of Origen (185–c. 254)mention infant baptism as traditional and customary.Tertullian (c. 155–230) too, while advising postponement of baptism until after marriage, mentions that it was customary to baptise infants, with sponsors speaking on their behalf.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi you know i really don't care what early Christian did or did not...all i care is what the bible teach.People used the bible to control people,as baptizing infant to force them staying in their religion for example.I am just telling you simply what the bible teach.
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura Infant baptism started in the Pegan Roman Catholic Church and migrated over to the other apostate churches as Satan was able to leaven his way into those churches. No where in the bible is it to baptized anyone without their accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour first.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation and that is my point ,to show that the bible doesn't support infant baptism...hahahaha i think we misunderstood each other.
Infant do not get to be baptized according to the bible
teriiura 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation but Satan also acknowledges Jesus as the Savior and Lord of people, odes that mean that Satan gets to go to heaven?
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi You ask a typical atheist question that wants to bring doubt to believers or potential believers. Who is motivating your questions? Could it be Satan? To answer your question. Did Satan accept Jesus as his saviour and give his life to him? Of course not! Besides the fact is that Satan and his angels are already destined to the lake of fire and have no way to salvation.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation How can someone give their life to another without their being some form of act involved. Just proclaiming you have faith in GOD is pointless if it does not result in good works. So the claim that fait alone is enough is absurd if you do nothing with it. Even Jesus performed works of of good with his faith. Only then did that lead to his Messianic act of dying on the cross and his eventual resurrection.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi When someone accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour from their sins, the Holy Spirit enters into them. They are then "born again" of the Spirit. A true sign the Holy Spirit is in them is from that point on, one finds the Holy Spirit convicting you of sin inside you. You see a change in that persons life. It is an amazing thing. Good works are performed due to the Holy Spirit guiding us in our day to day lives. That is why Jesus said "you can tell a tree by it's fruit".
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
Those that have the Holy Spirit in them have good wroks, those who have not the spirit do not produce good works. That is why you see so many proclaimer of being Christian when they have not truely given their life to Jesus.
Luke 6:43-44 (King James Version) 43For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
44For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation yes thats true, but doesn't that mean that both faith and works are co-requisites to salvation since one is lost without the other. Works that are not guided by faith are empty and Faith without fruitful acts is meaningless. Don't we need both and not just one or the other. People are guided by the holy spirit and do have the capacity for the gift of salvation but isn't it possible to reject the holy spirit and salvation during times where we behave Godlessly.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi No, no co-requistes. Your faith is only what is needed. Good works are a result or byproduct of faith due to the possession of the Holy spirit inside you convicting you of bad works leading you to good works. Yes, one can reject the convictions of the Holy spirit, then the Holy Spirit will eventually leave you. He will continue to try to re-commit you, but eventually if you reject him one too many times, that will be considered blaspheme of the holy spirit and he will leave U 4ever.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
See Hebrews chapter 6 about this.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation But rejecting convictions suggests that their is an act involved which rejects faith in Jesus; such as murder. The doctrine of "sola fide" is misrepresents the wholeness that Christianity entails. It was coined up as propaganda against the Catholic Church, which was wrongfully selling indulgences as a means of salvation. Sola Fide definitely put practices into perspective but is a phrase that can be misleading to Christians who are weak in their faith and understanding.
mtregi 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation So what does accepting Jesus as personal Savior and Lord entail.
mtregi 1 year ago
@mtregi Accepting Jesus Christ is a sincere acceptance and belief in him as Lord and that he died for your sins and that he raised up on the 3rd day. By doing this, you are knowingly commiting your life to him and want His Holy Spirit to guide your life. GOD's will is your goal then, not your own. Let not my will but GOD's will be done. Amen.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
There is a sinners prayer that can be prayed sincerely that will commit yourself to him. Look for it on my website at the bottm of the long page...go to my youetube channel for my web address.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@teriiura a child will only have to become baptized again later in their life once they fully understand what sin is and why Jesus died for them and the commitment that they are making to him. Some children do actually understand that and so yes they can be baptized by water if they fully do understand.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation so a child has to be baptized two times?it doesn't make sense.Children being baptized i undrstand...but not infant
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura I meant that intended for the child that has been baptized but yet has not commited their life to Jesus Christ or at least is not of a mature mindset to understand what being saved from their sins means. Common sense tells us to get rebaptized once we have become born again. I was baptized when I was 14 and yet was not born again and had no idea what it meant. I was baptized again after I became born again much later in life because I understood that my first baptism meant nothing.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation in the bible Marc 16:16 it is mention to believe and be baptize.
You have to understand the meaning of baptism,it means a proclamation of being born again.
I have then a question for you.Hitler was raised into a catholic home,therefore baptized...where is he now?knowing he was baptized.Baptism doesn't save.Baptism is a convenant you make with God.Not your parents who makes that convenant between you and God,and later on respect it.
teriiura 1 year ago
@teriiura I have to agree with you on that one.
mtregi 1 year ago
@teriiura It is believed and told that Hitler was a member of the Illuminati whom worship Satan. Just because his parents may have baptized him as a baby, never saved him.He, as an accountable mature individual, would need to believe in Jeuss commit his life to Jesus Christ.
No one but GOD knows how Hitler actually died. So no one knows if before death he gave himself to the Lord, but Satan worshipers typically dont. I would say their is a good chance he died unsaved and is in Hell right now.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@mtregi Yes, we are told that we should get baptized, but it doesn't imply that our salvation depends on it.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
I am in total agreeemtn with you theprolifeguy. The apostacy that many churches participate in with infant baptism is originated by Satan. He has his hands in many ways into the church to decieve many to damnation. Many parents take a sigh of relief when their child is baptized.They receive a false sense of security by this. The deception is that their salvation is for sure because of that infant baptism...what a lie they have believed. True salvation is believing in Jesus and being born again.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@RaptureOrTribulation umm...no
mtregi 1 year ago
"Is Christian infant baptism viable?"
No.
But then again, neither is any kind of baptism. It's just dunking a person in water or dabbing a bit on their head... the rest of the word just calls this washing up.
What a waste. To think you've actually spent time mulling this thought over and produced a video about it...
jussts 1 year ago
The human mind cannot think of a bigger waste of time than baptizing infants.
VesusSheist 1 year ago
? do u half to get baptizad? and tell the truth cause i got counfussed pleasez tell me cause people in my family said u dont half to and i dont want to get baptizad
EmoDotFrezzel 1 year ago
@EmoDotFrezzel Depends on your religion. The bible seems to require it, but then again, the bible requires a lot of things people seem to ignore.
JuryDutySummons 1 year ago
The idea of infant baptism is not canonnical, but a recent thing to placate ignorant parents. Children do not need to be baptised, according to the bible. Jesus said "Suffer the children to come unto me." He did not say "Suffer only the baptised children...". Children get a free pass. Once they are old enough to be baptised (they are not considered "adult", or old enough to work), THEN they need to be baptised. Oh, and the other thing, not pro life until the fetal brain has formed. Once it has..
RyuDarragh 1 year ago
@RyuDarragh Whole houses were baptized in biblical times - including infants and children. Yes, Infant Baptism is legitimate.
wardenphil 1 year ago
The answer is no. The bible is clear that Baptism is the first act of obedience AFTER salvation. Infants are not in innocence and have no need of salvation. It is a heresy of the Catholic Church to Baptize infants, because they falsely teach that Baptism is membership to the church, and church membership equals heaven. Both are false.
Michael8it 1 year ago
A few dabs of water on a kids head is nothing but a silly attempt at indoctrinating yet another kid in to the cult of their brainwashed parents. This is 2010 for fuck's sake.
MrAugustNidor 1 year ago
Great video! I was sprinkled as a baby in a infant baptist denomination, and I became truly baptized 3 years ago after I became convinced of the truth of baptism only for those who repent of their sin. Anabaptists unite!!! :-)
aarondkemp 1 year ago
Acts 2:39, "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 22:16, "And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord."
They say these passage prove that baptism is a universal command and not restricted to adults. So, my question is this. HOW can an infant know the Lord has CALLED them, and how can an infant ARISE and the CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD?
AceInThePines 1 year ago
Matthew 3:7,8 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? ((Bring forth therefore fruits meet for REPENTANCE:))
John wasn't going to allow them to sneak in and be baptized without meeting the necessary conditions God had set up in advance for baptism. WHY SHOULD YOU?
AceInThePines 1 year ago
I have the Catholic bible. It has seven more books than Protestant bibles. Your reading from a Protestant bible, doesn't that make you a Protestant. The Catholic Church is all about the Eucharist and a family of faith. If we all believe different factors within Christianity, and read from different Christian literature, then how can we be separate Christians? The wholeness of the Church is important as stated in the bible: If two or more of you gather in My name, it shall be done in heaven.
1standupforchrist 1 year ago
@1standupforchrist True...By the way....I checked the concordance...There is no such word as eucharist in the bible
theprolifeguy 1 year ago
@theprolifeguy Eucharist symbolizes communion with the community with the holy spirit. Don't you want togetherness with a large Christian family with the holy spirit? Together, we can do this. I'm totally ok with different denominations, as long as we love each other and praise Jesus.
1standupforchrist 1 year ago
@1standupforchrist Sure,I have no problem Catholics or any other denomination..We are all free to practice as we will....I just don't agree with infant baptism & some other man made traditions
theprolifeguy 1 year ago 2
@theprolifeguy So, what? Do you expect God to make traditions for us?
1standupforchrist 1 year ago
@theprolifeguy neither is going to church on Sunday
mtregi 1 year ago
pie jesu, ora por Jerard Paul. Now I'm not judging you, and I'm sure you love Jesus very much, but don't you think you left the Catholic Church because you didn't fully understand it? We get baptized as infants, then confirm ourselves when we feel we're ready, which is what you did, in a sense. You confirmed that you acknowledge and believe in Jesus. But after you're baptized once, you have a permanent mark on your soul. We believe in on baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
1standupforchrist 1 year ago
I SO AGREE WITH YOU! :-)
dominiplaya2513 1 year ago
Excellent words. The implication is that if young child dies and is not baptised then they are going to hell. That is a wicked thought. The blood of Christ automatically cancels the sin of Adam that plagues all mankind, all that is left is the individual's choice to be saved or damned - to repent from wickedness, put their trust in Christ and to be baptised as a sign of the new covenant (which is not always possible), or not.
All children are pure in Christ until they have knowingly sinned.
TheLoonwolf 1 year ago
Baptism for the forgiveness of sins was not instituted until Jesus died. The new Covenant was not yet in effect until after the death of Christ.
bwmnstar7 1 year ago
I'm not an expert theologian by any means, but do you even have to be babtised to be saved? I remember from the gospels the story of Jesus on the cross. One of the others being crucified asked if Jesus would remember him when he goes to his kingdom. Jesus responds by saying "today you will be with me in paradise". I'm sure that gentleman was probably never babtised. Just wondering what your opinion is on that...
ConservativeTimes 2 years ago