@SuperHendrik777 Well the "child" in this video is 17 years old so I'm not sure that qualifies as a "child". Anyway it depends on what u feel the age of accountability is. Some believe the child also has to have been baptised based on John 3:5. Churches believe different things so I won't get into that too much.
I feel a bit uneasy about your video.. i mean didn't you consider that God will calm our hearts in Heaven and reveal His love to us... in Zephaniah 3:17 it tells us that God will calm us with His songs of love and rejoice over us with gladness.
@ajhrockerboy6 umm... well atheists are very warped in what they believe yes i agree on that. but please try not to curse like that... i just feel like you could say the same thing without so many curse words :)
@girlie182tools "God will calm our hearts in Heaven"? You mean, like removing our human emotions? So we can't feel sorrow or empathy? Or erasing our memories? So we can't remember our loved ones who are suffering? And he's still supposed to be all powerful and loving?
If U have the time to make tis video, spend some time listen to Pastor Joseph Prince sermons den U will knw wat You really missed and misunderstood about our Heavenly Father and His Love for us…
well but why didnt the father cry when the child was alive? JOB 1:5 .. Job would send and have them purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts. This was Job's regular custom.
JOB was a Father,he on earth went in our understanding to pray for his kids..so what do parents this days fro their kids?because GOD our father did everything for us to be saved. what do we do?...gbu
a non sense! google "hell is a myth" or "the origins of the doctrine of eternal torment by thomas thayer" The GOSPEL can't POSSIBLY be "Jesus came to deliver us from hell" when the doctrine of hell didn't exist in jewish teaching!(and still doesn't)....
u see..god created us.brought us life.. the only thing u should do is to have faith and believe in god.. god has given us so many chances to be with god.. it is not god to be blamed when our loveones didnt make it to heaven... god surely gave them the same chances god gave us... god gave his life to take the sins of the world.. for us to be with him.. and looks forward seeing us there.. the only thing we have to do.. is to believe and trust god.. is it too much to ask?..
@TsikenPacs0831 Being asked to believe in aweful ridiculous things. To blindly accept that a jealous megalomanical douche bag is the all powerful creator of the universe with no proof except a 4000 year old book of insane dessert rantings... Yeah thats too much.
@TsikenPacs0831 ok take this into consideration, Allah gave you enough chances to believe in him, and come to islam, accept the prophet Mohamad as the final messanger of God, and accept the fact that Jesus was a prophet of Allah and not Allah Himself YOU ARE COMMITING SHIRK BY WORSHIPING ALLAH AS A TRINITY ALLAH IS ONE AND NOT A TRINITY is that too much to ask?.. huh?
u see..god created us.brought us life.. the only thing u should do is to have faith and believe in god.. god has given us so many chances to be with god.. it is not god to be blamed when our loveones didnt make it to heaven... god surely gave them the same chances god gave us... god gave his life to take the sins of the world.. for us to be with him.. and looks forward seeing us there.. the only thing we have to do.. is to believe and trust god.. is it too much to ask?..
LOL. The new arrival asked for his Daughter but could care less for his Wife :)
I notice that there's the same pattern in this video as in any other legalistic environment. For example, at work when any excuse would be enough to fire an employee. The employee explains: "If you fire me, I won't be able to take care of my mom who's very sick, I'll lose my car, I won't be able to help with charity, people depends on me". The employer then say: "I'ts not my problem, you brought it to yourself".
I've thought the same exact thing! You are onto something sir, and I doubt most believers seriously consider the thought that if they are right and nonbelievers are wrong, they might just feel a pinge of conscious if people they cared for are burning in Hell simply for how they thought. It's all bullshit, of course, but try telling that to a fundamentalist!
Thank you for your video. It is deep eye opener. Actually this whole christian reality is the most scary thing ever imagined by man. Few years back I also realised that heaven is the same torment as hell. They are not different.
@Taspearl It's actually the Buddy Christ & the movie is called Dogma.
It's kind of a very weird movie. You can watch the video clip here on YouTube. George Carlin as a Priest, LOL. One year before he died I bought his book: "When will Jesus bring the pork chops". In there he said something about Merry Christmas & happy new year, but then adds some comments: "Many of you will die this comming year", lol, one was he himself. To the Christians he's in hell now.
However &since I'm here, I remember reading somewhere in the Bible where Jesus said that he will bring back to life all animals which were eaten by other animals. Changing subject, the other day I watched a movie & this priest (Played by George Carlin) introduces a new Jesus image & called it: "The Buddy Jesus".
Actually, there is a book which used to be used by early Christians, but later was replaced by the Apocalypse according to John. This book is the Apocalypse according to Peter. In this book, Jesus tells St. Peter a secret. The secret was that people in heaven will ask for a love one to be taken from hell to heaven & that so it will be. Look at it yourselves & read it.
@Taspearl The born again concept makes sense according to the old nature explained by the bible itself. That is because the bible tells us flat out that we are born sinners & that the wages of sin is death. In short, the bible answers the question "why do we died?". It explains death of a sinner from dust we came & to dust we go. That fact of being dust in the wind is a fact with or without the bible. My question is: "Where does the bible teach the answer of why animals die too?"
@argent2020 So, why do I mention animals other than humans?. Because the bible says that animals were created by the planet itself (not from dust), howerer, just like humans; to dust they go.
But, so do the planets & just about anything in the cosmos (as in cosmic dust).
Did the cosmos itself became a sinner?. What was first?, the dust or the cosmos?.
Funny though, it appears to me that the space would be the only thing that neither came from, nor will end up in dust.
@Taspearl I don't know about being vulcans there, but I figure that Jimmy, unlike the Islamics seeking daily virgins in paradise, he would more likely be seeking daily (or nightly) prostitutes.
In my opinion, Christianity is complicated. To begin with, it's full of paganism concepts. Hell for instance is one of them, as well as certain rituals & even celebrations. Most churches even celebrate Halloween. Christmas trees, etc.
I learned something from this video. You should tell the Good News to your family. just try and try.If someone you loved went to hell, you can't blame God. Actually, He gave his own beloved Son,Jesus,to save us but of course, you need to choose if whom you would believe, if it's Jesus or Satan. Jesus paid our sins on the cross. He endured it all in our place. What should we do then in order to go to Heaven? Accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and serve Him and share the Good News too!!
The guy in my video did not blame God for a family member being in hell. The problem for the person in my video is that while he is in paradise is daughter is burning forever in hell which is heartbreaking. Imagine going to a party while knowing that your friend is being tortured. If you are a good friend you would not enjoy the party while your friend is being tortured because you would be thinking about them.
@KT45 well yes, I know that. but in heaven, you will nhot remember them anymore... "for God shall wipe all our tears".
of course, why is there any tears on the judgement day? becayse we will see out beloved loved ones who are not saved getting thrown in the lake of fire...
='( but thank God. all of my loved ones are saced. except for my friends. :( I tried to invite them to our church, they even promised and promised all over again...but still... no sign of them. O.o
@HimeLitschka if God makes people forget their loved ones in hell then isn't he concealing truth just to make people happy? Do you think hiding truth is a lie by omission?
@KT45 exactly, The Bible never says we will "forget" just that he will wipe every tear, but considering that, there will be tears. Suddenly it doesn't sound like such a happy place. But even if we did have no memory of such, how can that be acceptable, sounds a lot like mindless cattle to me. Though the Bible does indicate that all things will be made known to us, so we will have all knowledge, how could a big part like that be left out?
Imagine that your mother goes to hell you go to heaven and God makes it so you do not remember you mother. You walk around in heaven and see many other people with mothers but you realize that you do not have one in heaven. So you ask God "Why do other people have mothers in heaven and I do not?" God cannot lie so he will say nothing or tell the truth. Using basic reasoning you will know your mother is in hell. The only thing god can do is making you uncaring so you don't weep for your mother.
Wow god sure is taking a lot of memories from people. He makes them forget they had earthly mothers and fathers. Makes them forget the people that are burning in hell. From your description it seems like God is giving lobotomies to his children. I guess ignorance really is bliss huh?
you calling the bible ignorance?..read it and see for yourself...and you know whats really sad about this is that you a so called "christian" is calling a child of God (your brother in Christ) and his word ignorant..i will pray for you bro
No I'm not calling the bible ignorant. I'm talking about the act of taking peoples memories. If God takes the memories from people that their faimly members are in hell so that they can be happy then by definition he is making them ignorant. I'm not a christian by the way.
well read the bible and see for yourself..we will see and remember the family members that are in heaven when we get there but you family members who went to hell you will remember no more.
So family members that go to hell you won't remember. Not only does god make you ignorant of your loved ones that went to hell but he takes your free will to remember them. The stranger part is that these people will be walking around with gaps in their memories. It would be like God was deceiving or tricking them into believing that they didn't have those family members in hell. God is hiding the truth from them
Calm down JESMinix00. I've read the bible already but I do plan on reading it again a second time. But I'm not questioning whether the bible says something. I want to know if you think that God taking peoples memories is deception. If God makes people forget then he is concealing truth, which is deception.
It should make a difference. If God is making people forget and is actively decieving his people (not sinners but his own christians in heaven) of the truth, then the god of truth becomes a god of deception. If you are comfortable with then that is your choice.
my choice has no meaning..what the bible says is not going to change because of my decision or anyone elses..there is nothing we can do so lets just drop it okay?
I remember when I was about 7 I talked about this with my dad, more about the day of Judgement as in Islam the dead don't go to heaven or hell til the day of judgement. My father told me that on that day everyone will be judged... When I asked him if he saw me would he help me, he said that he wouldn't because during the day of judgement everyone will just be out for themselves. Now my father loves me and he isn't a selfish person, but I couldn't do that with anyone I cared about!
On the other hand, the new arrival didn't ask for his Wife, hahaha
Lord?, where's my Wife?. Sorry, she didn't make it, she's in hell. Lord!, you're cool, there's a God after all, hahahaha
Lord, you've no idea how thankfull I am, On Earth she made a liveing hell out of my life. Lord, can I see her burning in hell?. Not that I'm mean or anything, but I just want to see her & tell her that pay back is hell, hahahah
"I think that if you are TRULY deep down a noble person, you will get to Heaven."
Very well said. Now, as an Atheist, I don't believe in Heaven, Hell, or the like. However, if they did/do happen to exist, I do believe that your deeds should determine where you go, not what you believe.
You`d think wouldn`t you, but no! apparently all you have to do is "believe", so this so called heaven could be full of all sorts of killers and rapists etc, Decent people, just because if they didn`t believe, go to hell. WTF lol.
i will pray for you and all other atheist..heaven and hell are very real and jesus christ is the only way to heaven not just because you believe in god...the bible commands all to repent from their sins and accept jesus as your lord and savior
I can't help myself, but I am pretty sure that, if there was a god who made all this, on judgement day he'd say something like:
"So, I gave you time on earth and I gave you a brain to think and free will to act, and you wasted it away with judging other people based on a ridiculous book written by some stoneage shepherds even though the world I made was full of proof that it's just a bunch of nonsense? Fuck you to hell, you imbecile! Atheists? You got the hint! This way to paaaaarty! Woooo!"
where'd you come up with that bullcrap? I mean really. that would mean it's not you merely a newly created facsimile. May as well torture yourself so a character in a video game would be happier.
I once heard Jimmy Swaggart in one of his sermons that God would take our feelings away as far as loving thos whom we loved on Earth. Yes!, we'll remember them, but we'll have no feeling of sorrow or any pity even if they were our sons, daughters, grand kids, parents, etc.
@argent2020 Jimmy Swaggart is evil, as are almost all evangelical preachers, so it makes sense that he would be promoting such a warped viewpoint as loving and legitimate. Shit like this pisses me off to no end, and there are so many people who don't think this nonsense through, and there are even those that do that remain unaffected! I simply don't understand how anyone could earnestly believe in such sadism and call it love. Baffling...
Your videos are so different, particularly in how they highlight the TRUE ramifications of believing in what the Christians preach (and I'm sure many other religions). The true injustice, depravity, and cruelty of the God they profess to worship.
Are they so ignorant or blinded to never even think of these things. Do they not care? In your example though perhaps they simply assume the "God" would make them completely forget about their precious loved child. Is that what they want?
I asked this question to a Christian and they told me that I'll be so happy to be with God that it won't even matter to me. Really?
Anything that separates people from one another is a disgrace to humanity, whether in heaven or earth. America spends so much time whining about tyrants in foreign lands, but loves this tyrant in the sky.
Thanks for the apology. You don't often see that on the internet. But I can see where you misunderstood me. It was just a failed attempt at atheist humor. Cheers
Good post. You have illustrated a concept that I pondered even when I was a Christian. How could I be happy in heaven if my children are burning in hell. Most Christians never think about this and preachers dare not mention it on Sunday morning.
"don't be surprised" I thought that summed everything up. Ever wonder why there are so many hounted places areound everywhere? Hehehehehe...... must've gotten to biggest surprise of their afterlife journeys.
this video's main thought is the main reason why i have a problem with fundamentalism. To reason you will not weep for those in hell. How could one accept paradise while their loved ones. THose that they protected and cherished burn and are ripped apart for eternity. That is not the definition of a god of love. That is us humans putting our beliefs onto god.
I prefer to think that all the really messed up religions with hell doctrine are true; that way, each person will get to go to the hells of all the religions they didn't believe in! Yay!
I'm glad people are tormented by the idea of Hell. I'm also glad that people use Hell to make people get to understanding God. If they believe in it - they deserve it.
What a shitty video. The audio was terrible, and from what I COULD hear it was all the same bullshit I have refuted countless times before. There are many religions with hell doctrine; and the funny thing is, there is nothing that proves that the Christian version is any more real than any of the other ones. And what if it's all a trick? What if your god is an evil prick who lied to the ancients, and the only way he can send you to hell is if you believe in him? Prove me wrong.
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"the video isn't about being astonished that god would send people to hell, it is about person who is just sad that their daughter is in hell. Most people are comforted with the thought that they might see their relatives in heaven and the video is showing that this is not the case"
I understand your position. I can only promise you that I debate, more effectively and elaborate better when not constrained. Feel free to make public anything you wish, but coming back here and cutting up my arguments and reorganizing them is simply too much of a hassle and takes more time. Also, I do not discuss debates I have, public or not, If I do not have what was said (such as this page or a saved pm, of which I have a lot).
This is hypocracy. This is a video crying over a daughter in hell, saying God is immoral, when "daughters and sons" are murdered just for the sake of convenience.
If it is not human life, what is it, a squirel? an ape?
That is hypocracy that sickens me. You are condoning murder.
Surly you can see this. Please rethink your position on this. I do not you would condone it personally, but in fear of "rights" death comes to many. Dont turn your head andignore
I would appreciate if you posted here. People will log onto this video and be tripped up by the message. I want my comments to be public and I do not want any confusion on what was or was not said. Though this video, the one who posted and creator of it may not be connected to the True Satanic Church, but the beliefs and doctrine are the same.
This is a video with a Satanic message. Jesus died to save all. If people refuse that, what CAN be done for them? Sound the ALARM there is a HELL!!!
I understand your position. I can only promise you that I debate, more effectively and elaborate better when not constrained. Feel free to make public anything you wish, but coming back here and cutting up my arguments and reorganizing them is simply too much of a hassle and takes more time. Also, I do not discuss debates I have, public or not, If I do not have what was said (such as this page or a saved pm, of which I have a lot).
You know very little of my values, other than abortions should be legal, but heavily restricted and based on stage and circumstance. Other than that you have made only assumptions based on ignorance. If you are truly interested in my personal morality and the various forms I draw it from, then I would be pleased to enlighten you :).
If a God "existed" and done all those tragides, I would understand the point, but if a God that doesnt exist done it, thats like saying the dog that doesnt exist just bit my leg.
And I'm saying you believe in a being that does those things and it is sad. Also, Albeit slightly hypocritical since he committed abortions and murder on a world wide scale according to your doctrine. I do not use him as a source of morality. I use him as a fictional character to show how sick the majority of human minds can be.
2. "I don't wathc foot ball so his opinion means nothing to me, sorry."
Nothing to be sorry about. I gave an example of a rich American tradition and the same values I expressed about this video he expressed. And though you may not care about life outside of your own, Vince is well respected. In fact the Super Bowl Trophy's name is the "Vince Lambardi Trophy". The reason I used him for example is because the view I shared is mainstream and in no way unheard of.
I care fo my life, my family's well being, and that of my friends. There are some traditions I like and some I do not in this country. Tradition does not always translate into good.
But on the subject of tradition and quotes-heres a nifty one for you:"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my Profession." Abraham Lincoln.
1 - "He is trying to force morals and opinions with violence" Death is still Death, Murder is still Murder. If you believe it is ok for scared teenage girls to murder, thats sad and sick.
Anyways, it is not narrowed to scared teenage girls, there are alot of women who just choose to not be bothered and abort out of convenience. Much like Osama, who would want us dead for his convenience.
It's not a right too choose, it's a right to murder.
I do not see it as murder, I see it as termination of potential life. To me Potential life=/=Existing life. I do however, see it as a sad situation that occurs too often, and sometimes used as a get out of jail free card which is horrendous imo. However, to me. It is not a human life yet, so it is not murder. Of course when it comes to me, this also depends on circumstance and stage of pregnancy (for example, brain has started to cognitively develop, then its human, but thats just me.)
"He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
Being a Father, Mother, Son, or Daughter is a PRIVLEDGE. If you believe in the LORD, and don't show the way, are you going to blame God? Some people would rather ABORT their daughters
Why are you astonished at God refusing the very people that refused him?
Your god is a self absorbed maniac. If this is a philosophy you adhere to, please do not have children. Also, abortion has nothing to do with this video. But since we are on the subject, according to Christian doctrine, at least to the best of my knowledge, they go to hell. What kind of fairness is that?
1. Don't support abortion, sorry that you made that assumption. I support the choice, I do not wish to force my morals on others. But Jesus' sacrifice only works if you accept him, a baby cannot be baptized if its aborted, so it goes to hell.
2. Who is Vince Lambardi?
3. Same god who slaughtered millions, has a personality complex, advocates rape, and does not exist.
4. You mean, being human?
If you wish to continue this exchange, please send me a pm. Cheers.
1 "I support the choice" Then i guess you supported Osama Bin Ladens want to kill Americans. I am sure you wouldnt want to "force your morals on others". I will never understand people who will protect the born, but not the unborn.
2 - Green Bay Packers Coach, NFL, Super Bowls 1 and 2
3 - How does a God that does not exist slaughter millions, have a personality complex, and advocate rape. Do you realize how dumb that statement was?
1. He is trying to force morals and opinions with violence. As such, I would meet him with violence. He is hardly comparable to the scared teenage girls who more often than not made a couple bad choices in their life and make one more. I could tell them the harms that come with abortion, but I would not force them to do anything one way or the other. In the end, its on their conscious or soul if you prefer.
2. I don't wathc foot ball so his opinion means nothing to me, sorry.
3. I am aware of his non existence, I thought you were not. I was saying you believe a being capable of these atrocities is deserving of worship. To me, that sounds dumb. I was drawing a comparison-If I was mistaken about your beliefs, feel free to inform me :).
4. 4. Nope, its being human. But part of being human is knowing how to control yourself. Another part is making mistakes and learning from them. But as long as you are not harming sentient life, I could really care less what one does.
>>"If you believe in the LORD, and don't show the way, are you going to blame God?"
The character in my video wasn't blaming god
>>"Why are you astonished at God refusing the very people that refused him?"
the video isn't about being astonished that god would send people to hell, it is about person who is just sad that their daughter is in hell. Most people are comforted with the thought that they might see their relatives in heaven and the video is showing that this is not the case
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I have to say this video was pretty well done I particularly loved the last frame it doesn't matter that it is a rough sketch the idea itself carried through. the line of weeping people who has entered into this eternal suffering.
Perfect. The possibility of the existence of hell perfectly destroys the possibility that there is a heaven. Because there is no god, and no afterlife. And it's really important for EVERYONE to understand this!
my answer -it's just one religion among many. and one of only two (to my knowledge) that threaten hell. i love the professor Dawkins' argument - nobody worries about what would Thor or Zeus do to them for not believing :) or Krishna or Vishnu or Manitu for that matter...
Wow. An honest appeal to emotion. It kinda makes me sad for the poor guys situation. Thanks for attaching it to my video. It's always nice to have support. :)
lemme tell ya one thing. in heaven, u wont bother about what u have done on earth. u'll only praise God. no mourning in heaven there's only praise.. so this is totally wrong, dude...
u playin wid peoples mind if ur a christian den we no ur lying u never see muslim makin heaven or hell as a picture am a christian my self u should be ashamed of ur self? and u call dat god no 1 nows how he looks like dum scum
well you have the christian church definition on the Bible not the actual Bible definition on the next life. To learn that study the Greek and Hewbrew and look at every thing that is being said understand that it is in parables. The sick idea of people going to Hell like is taught is wrong.
Well actually I need to put MORE time into making these videos and less time studying the bible lol. Anyway I do plan on studying more but this video mostly deals with the common preception of hell and heaven stylized in a very simple art form. But yeah, more studying to be done. Catch ya later
Heaven is full of strong people. You can't be attached to anything or else you will never be happy or be able to go to heaven! You won't go if you can't handle it. Remember anything is possible...
Ah, another chris-chin with a perfect understanding of what god wants and exactly what heaven is. Congratulations on you wisdom, and your majestic arrogance and conceit.
you don't have to believe in god to go to heaven, just be good you can go to heaven.I am Buddhist by the way.Also that goes for all the religions. Don't listen to the people who saids you have to believe in jesus to go to heaven.believe in yourself do good. then you can go to heaven.
Irony? Of course the idea that good people will be punished simply because of being unwilling to accept obscure and possibly distorted belief systems is hard to accept. I don't think the essence of Christianity supports the idea that only Christians will go to heaven.
I don't think a consensus can be reached to decide what the "essence of Christianity supports." I can't even find 2 Christians who believe in the same god/rules. Some Christians have the soft & cuddly view of god & just as many will miss the point of this video entirely, like daruler5240 here & likely cream themselves at the thought of nonbelievers suffering for all eternity.
I came across a show on tv where a minister was talking about the memory of the person who doesn't make it there being removed. I thought about that for a minute and realized that this would probably be the best thing to have happen. You'll never see them again anyway, so doing this would be the most loving thing to do.
The concept of an all knowing all powerful God is infinite and impossible to understand by us because the human mind has a limit, and while we can create the idea of infinity, to put human concepts to it doesn't work. I personally hate the "God works in mysterious ways" cop out to questions like these, but our imagination has a limit and to understand something that is infinite, such as the concept of God, is impossible.
If there are real and my loved ones were burning in hell and I went to Heaven. I would kindly give up Heaven just so I could see my loved ones. Yes, I would want to go to hell. Because if you are with your loved ones, then hell won't be a hell anymore now would it? As long as you see them and know your with them. No matter what Satan does, at least your in the same place. Plus I have a feeling Satan might be more forgiving then God ever was.
Also, I see Hell was WWE RAW and Heaven as WWE SmackDown! You probably get a choise on where you want to go. If you happen to go to Heaven. Satan seems more forgiving now that I think of it. Heaven's a monarchy, and hell is probably a depoacy.
You say that because you have no concept of hell. And, from what I've heard and read about hell, one of it's many torments is loneliness, see even if you do get to see your loved ones, you may not even be able to speak to them. And, would it be a good thing to see you loved ones in perpetual agony, unable to help out in anyway?
Anyway, if you make it to heaven, you'll understand that the offer of salvation was offered to them freely but they turned it down. I think that in heaven, we will have a full understanding of the plan of redemption and hell being a place of punishment for rejecting it.
Gawd, you don't get it, do you? MAKING SOMEBODY SUFFER FOR ALL ETERNITY IS COMPLETELY INSANE and it's OBVIOUSLY made by a HUMAN mind to scare people into submission.
Learning about suffering in the Hell ISN'T REALLY FROM THE BIBLE, and it's insulting our God. He is loving and justice, and fire tortures for always (as a punishment for a short sinful live)are extremely cruel and unjust. Wicked, who've known truth about God but have chosen evil will just not be ressurected for eternal life in restored Paradise on Earth (e.g.Romans6:7; John 5:28,29; Revel.21:3-5; Math.5:5)
I figure that when we get to heaven, we will have a full understanding of why those we know and love are in hell. We will understand that they had the opportunity to be forgiven of their sin, but the refuse to be. I think that then, we will fully understand the justice of God and will know why those people are in hell. And, even with this being so, I don't think that there is anyone crying in heaven, but that's just me.
So what let me get this. You would not be upset if you understood why someone was burning forever? So if someone like your spouse was accused of being a witch and she was going to be burned at the stake. If the judge let you have full understanding of why she is about to be burned alive you wouldn't be sad because you fully understand the justice of the judge?
The analogy that you gave doesn't fit cuz with salvation, there is a choice in the matter and though there are some who don't know about it, there are many who don't wanna know about it and many others who will just flat out refuse it. For those who don't know about it, God will deal with them fairly, but the others will end up in hell straight up. I feel that those in heaven will know this and will see the justice in this. That' what I'm saying. Some may disagree...
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SuperHendrik777 5 months ago
@SuperHendrik777 Well the "child" in this video is 17 years old so I'm not sure that qualifies as a "child". Anyway it depends on what u feel the age of accountability is. Some believe the child also has to have been baptised based on John 3:5. Churches believe different things so I won't get into that too much.
KT45 5 months ago
Well if this happens in Heaven you should never believe in Christian because God already said it never happened so you're not a Christian :)
kilian12345 5 months ago
I feel a bit uneasy about your video.. i mean didn't you consider that God will calm our hearts in Heaven and reveal His love to us... in Zephaniah 3:17 it tells us that God will calm us with His songs of love and rejoice over us with gladness.
girlie182tools 6 months ago
@girlie182tools songs ? :/
WarLordKiro 6 months ago
@WarLordKiro yes songs... was there something wrong with that?
girlie182tools 6 months ago
@girlie182tools agreed. atheism is for pure shitfucks with no sense of humility.
ajhrockerboy6 6 months ago
@ajhrockerboy6 umm... well atheists are very warped in what they believe yes i agree on that. but please try not to curse like that... i just feel like you could say the same thing without so many curse words :)
girlie182tools 6 months ago
@girlie182tools "God will calm our hearts in Heaven"? You mean, like removing our human emotions? So we can't feel sorrow or empathy? Or erasing our memories? So we can't remember our loved ones who are suffering? And he's still supposed to be all powerful and loving?
Finsolitus 6 months ago
Heaven would be Hell for me.
mrjholland1 6 months ago
Just simply not Bible base…
If U have the time to make tis video, spend some time listen to Pastor Joseph Prince sermons den U will knw wat You really missed and misunderstood about our Heavenly Father and His Love for us…
Jiefeily 8 months ago
well but why didnt the father cry when the child was alive? JOB 1:5 .. Job would send and have them purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts. This was Job's regular custom.
JOB was a Father,he on earth went in our understanding to pray for his kids..so what do parents this days fro their kids?because GOD our father did everything for us to be saved. what do we do?...gbu
Adeda17 9 months ago
great vid!! i really enjoyed it :)
xoxoLoveDustxoxo 9 months ago
the idea is of course couldn't be truer
but it's the voice acting that bothers me a lot.
Sniktbamf 9 months ago
u make a very good point. thx for the video. that takes guts.
ervin920 10 months ago
a non sense! google "hell is a myth" or "the origins of the doctrine of eternal torment by thomas thayer" The GOSPEL can't POSSIBLY be "Jesus came to deliver us from hell" when the doctrine of hell didn't exist in jewish teaching!(and still doesn't)....
jacqsprat44 10 months ago
-Heaven is differrent from Paradise.
-You cannot go to Heaven if you are not perfect.
-If you grumble against God when you are in Heaven, you cannot be there.
-It's not God who should be blame why your loved ones is not in Heaven, it's people who dont believe and follow God.
KT45-this should be your last video if you continue to make videos that are incorrect and you are giving incorrect thoughts to people.
iversonjong3 1 year ago
I'm an atheist and this is one of the reasons that the Christian concept of an all-loving god is logically invalid.
bilal3700 1 year ago
@KT45 i think god is the TRUTH
TsikenPacs0831 1 year ago
u see..god created us.brought us life.. the only thing u should do is to have faith and believe in god.. god has given us so many chances to be with god.. it is not god to be blamed when our loveones didnt make it to heaven... god surely gave them the same chances god gave us... god gave his life to take the sins of the world.. for us to be with him.. and looks forward seeing us there.. the only thing we have to do.. is to believe and trust god.. is it too much to ask?..
TsikenPacs0831 1 year ago
@TsikenPacs0831 the character in this video is not blaming god for his loved one not being in heaven.
KT45 1 year ago
@TsikenPacs0831 Being asked to believe in aweful ridiculous things. To blindly accept that a jealous megalomanical douche bag is the all powerful creator of the universe with no proof except a 4000 year old book of insane dessert rantings... Yeah thats too much.
mich1881andre 1 year ago
@TsikenPacs0831 ok take this into consideration, Allah gave you enough chances to believe in him, and come to islam, accept the prophet Mohamad as the final messanger of God, and accept the fact that Jesus was a prophet of Allah and not Allah Himself YOU ARE COMMITING SHIRK BY WORSHIPING ALLAH AS A TRINITY ALLAH IS ONE AND NOT A TRINITY is that too much to ask?.. huh?
zipitup75 1 year ago
u see..god created us.brought us life.. the only thing u should do is to have faith and believe in god.. god has given us so many chances to be with god.. it is not god to be blamed when our loveones didnt make it to heaven... god surely gave them the same chances god gave us... god gave his life to take the sins of the world.. for us to be with him.. and looks forward seeing us there.. the only thing we have to do.. is to believe and trust god.. is it too much to ask?..
TsikenPacs0831 1 year ago
LOL. The new arrival asked for his Daughter but could care less for his Wife :)
I notice that there's the same pattern in this video as in any other legalistic environment. For example, at work when any excuse would be enough to fire an employee. The employee explains: "If you fire me, I won't be able to take care of my mom who's very sick, I'll lose my car, I won't be able to help with charity, people depends on me". The employer then say: "I'ts not my problem, you brought it to yourself".
argent2020 1 year ago
I've thought the same exact thing! You are onto something sir, and I doubt most believers seriously consider the thought that if they are right and nonbelievers are wrong, they might just feel a pinge of conscious if people they cared for are burning in Hell simply for how they thought. It's all bullshit, of course, but try telling that to a fundamentalist!
misterzonker2584 1 year ago
Thank you for your video. It is deep eye opener. Actually this whole christian reality is the most scary thing ever imagined by man. Few years back I also realised that heaven is the same torment as hell. They are not different.
J0EH3AD 1 year ago
God doesn't think like us and we will never think like God. Compared to God, our highest knowledge is like a drop of water to the ocean.
johndemark 1 year ago
@johndemark i love and respect what you said! and agree with every thing u said!
God bless u!
x0nonnah0x 1 year ago
@johndemark And? What is the point? And about video?
J0EH3AD 1 year ago
@Taspearl It's actually the Buddy Christ & the movie is called Dogma.
It's kind of a very weird movie. You can watch the video clip here on YouTube. George Carlin as a Priest, LOL. One year before he died I bought his book: "When will Jesus bring the pork chops". In there he said something about Merry Christmas & happy new year, but then adds some comments: "Many of you will die this comming year", lol, one was he himself. To the Christians he's in hell now.
argent2020 1 year ago
@Taspearl Hi. I'm all ears (I mean, all eyes).
However &since I'm here, I remember reading somewhere in the Bible where Jesus said that he will bring back to life all animals which were eaten by other animals. Changing subject, the other day I watched a movie & this priest (Played by George Carlin) introduces a new Jesus image & called it: "The Buddy Jesus".
argent2020 1 year ago
Actually, there is a book which used to be used by early Christians, but later was replaced by the Apocalypse according to John. This book is the Apocalypse according to Peter. In this book, Jesus tells St. Peter a secret. The secret was that people in heaven will ask for a love one to be taken from hell to heaven & that so it will be. Look at it yourselves & read it.
argent2020 1 year ago
@Taspearl The born again concept makes sense according to the old nature explained by the bible itself. That is because the bible tells us flat out that we are born sinners & that the wages of sin is death. In short, the bible answers the question "why do we died?". It explains death of a sinner from dust we came & to dust we go. That fact of being dust in the wind is a fact with or without the bible. My question is: "Where does the bible teach the answer of why animals die too?"
argent2020 1 year ago
@argent2020 So, why do I mention animals other than humans?. Because the bible says that animals were created by the planet itself (not from dust), howerer, just like humans; to dust they go.
But, so do the planets & just about anything in the cosmos (as in cosmic dust).
Did the cosmos itself became a sinner?. What was first?, the dust or the cosmos?.
Funny though, it appears to me that the space would be the only thing that neither came from, nor will end up in dust.
Read the Tao te ching.
argent2020 1 year ago
@Taspearl I don't know about being vulcans there, but I figure that Jimmy, unlike the Islamics seeking daily virgins in paradise, he would more likely be seeking daily (or nightly) prostitutes.
In my opinion, Christianity is complicated. To begin with, it's full of paganism concepts. Hell for instance is one of them, as well as certain rituals & even celebrations. Most churches even celebrate Halloween. Christmas trees, etc.
argent2020 1 year ago
I learned something from this video. You should tell the Good News to your family. just try and try.If someone you loved went to hell, you can't blame God. Actually, He gave his own beloved Son,Jesus,to save us but of course, you need to choose if whom you would believe, if it's Jesus or Satan. Jesus paid our sins on the cross. He endured it all in our place. What should we do then in order to go to Heaven? Accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and serve Him and share the Good News too!!
HimeLitschka 2 years ago
The guy in my video did not blame God for a family member being in hell. The problem for the person in my video is that while he is in paradise is daughter is burning forever in hell which is heartbreaking. Imagine going to a party while knowing that your friend is being tortured. If you are a good friend you would not enjoy the party while your friend is being tortured because you would be thinking about them.
KT45 2 years ago
@KT45 well yes, I know that. but in heaven, you will nhot remember them anymore... "for God shall wipe all our tears".
of course, why is there any tears on the judgement day? becayse we will see out beloved loved ones who are not saved getting thrown in the lake of fire...
='( but thank God. all of my loved ones are saced. except for my friends. :( I tried to invite them to our church, they even promised and promised all over again...but still... no sign of them. O.o
HimeLitschka 1 year ago
@HimeLitschka lol. wrong spelling. becayse = because
out = our
saced = saved
HimeLitschka 1 year ago
@HimeLitschka if God makes people forget their loved ones in hell then isn't he concealing truth just to make people happy? Do you think hiding truth is a lie by omission?
KT45 1 year ago
@KT45 exactly, The Bible never says we will "forget" just that he will wipe every tear, but considering that, there will be tears. Suddenly it doesn't sound like such a happy place. But even if we did have no memory of such, how can that be acceptable, sounds a lot like mindless cattle to me. Though the Bible does indicate that all things will be made known to us, so we will have all knowledge, how could a big part like that be left out?
just some thoughts...
TheJoygazmic 1 year ago
@HimeLitschka how arrogant that you and YOUR church think that you are on the right path...
chyrd 1 year ago
this is a good video..but the bible says you will remember no one that is in hell..and it also says there is no tears nor sorrow in heaven.
JESMinix00 2 years ago
Imagine that your mother goes to hell you go to heaven and God makes it so you do not remember you mother. You walk around in heaven and see many other people with mothers but you realize that you do not have one in heaven. So you ask God "Why do other people have mothers in heaven and I do not?" God cannot lie so he will say nothing or tell the truth. Using basic reasoning you will know your mother is in hell. The only thing god can do is making you uncaring so you don't weep for your mother.
KT45 2 years ago
heres the problem...everyone will be brothers and sisters in heaven...there is only father God, not earthly mother and father.
JESMinix00 2 years ago
Wow god sure is taking a lot of memories from people. He makes them forget they had earthly mothers and fathers. Makes them forget the people that are burning in hell. From your description it seems like God is giving lobotomies to his children. I guess ignorance really is bliss huh?
KT45 2 years ago
you calling the bible ignorance?..read it and see for yourself...and you know whats really sad about this is that you a so called "christian" is calling a child of God (your brother in Christ) and his word ignorant..i will pray for you bro
JESMinix00 2 years ago
No I'm not calling the bible ignorant. I'm talking about the act of taking peoples memories. If God takes the memories from people that their faimly members are in hell so that they can be happy then by definition he is making them ignorant. I'm not a christian by the way.
KT45 2 years ago
well read the bible and see for yourself..we will see and remember the family members that are in heaven when we get there but you family members who went to hell you will remember no more.
JESMinix00 2 years ago
So family members that go to hell you won't remember. Not only does god make you ignorant of your loved ones that went to hell but he takes your free will to remember them. The stranger part is that these people will be walking around with gaps in their memories. It would be like God was deceiving or tricking them into believing that they didn't have those family members in hell. God is hiding the truth from them
KT45 2 years ago
LISTEN!!......You say that stupid comment everytime READ THE BIBLE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!!!!!
JESMinix00 2 years ago
Calm down JESMinix00. I've read the bible already but I do plan on reading it again a second time. But I'm not questioning whether the bible says something. I want to know if you think that God taking peoples memories is deception. If God makes people forget then he is concealing truth, which is deception.
KT45 2 years ago
well it makes no difference what i think..
JESMinix00 2 years ago
It should make a difference. If God is making people forget and is actively decieving his people (not sinners but his own christians in heaven) of the truth, then the god of truth becomes a god of deception. If you are comfortable with then that is your choice.
KT45 2 years ago
my choice has no meaning..what the bible says is not going to change because of my decision or anyone elses..there is nothing we can do so lets just drop it okay?
JESMinix00 2 years ago
Sure. Have a great day!
KT45 2 years ago
I remember when I was about 7 I talked about this with my dad, more about the day of Judgement as in Islam the dead don't go to heaven or hell til the day of judgement. My father told me that on that day everyone will be judged... When I asked him if he saw me would he help me, he said that he wouldn't because during the day of judgement everyone will just be out for themselves. Now my father loves me and he isn't a selfish person, but I couldn't do that with anyone I cared about!
neon1rave2 2 years ago
The only realistic answer to your dielema is that its not true.
peteq1972 2 years ago
On the other hand, the new arrival didn't ask for his Wife, hahaha
Lord?, where's my Wife?. Sorry, she didn't make it, she's in hell. Lord!, you're cool, there's a God after all, hahahaha
Lord, you've no idea how thankfull I am, On Earth she made a liveing hell out of my life. Lord, can I see her burning in hell?. Not that I'm mean or anything, but I just want to see her & tell her that pay back is hell, hahahah
argent2020 2 years ago
Actually, in the book of Revelation according to Peter, that man wish of having his daughter tranfer from hell to heaven would be granted.
argent2020 2 years ago
"I think that if you are TRULY deep down a noble person, you will get to Heaven."
Very well said. Now, as an Atheist, I don't believe in Heaven, Hell, or the like. However, if they did/do happen to exist, I do believe that your deeds should determine where you go, not what you believe.
KyanisSunweaver 2 years ago
You`d think wouldn`t you, but no! apparently all you have to do is "believe", so this so called heaven could be full of all sorts of killers and rapists etc, Decent people, just because if they didn`t believe, go to hell. WTF lol.
yeah i`m Atheist.
peteq1972 2 years ago
i will pray for you and all other atheist..heaven and hell are very real and jesus christ is the only way to heaven not just because you believe in god...the bible commands all to repent from their sins and accept jesus as your lord and savior
JESMinix00 2 years ago
I can't help myself, but I am pretty sure that, if there was a god who made all this, on judgement day he'd say something like:
"So, I gave you time on earth and I gave you a brain to think and free will to act, and you wasted it away with judging other people based on a ridiculous book written by some stoneage shepherds even though the world I made was full of proof that it's just a bunch of nonsense? Fuck you to hell, you imbecile! Atheists? You got the hint! This way to paaaaarty! Woooo!"
commanderkruge 2 years ago
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You won't remember anyone from Earth.. You'll only the remember the ones that did God's will and are in Heaven.
Krossfam 3 years ago
where'd you come up with that bullcrap? I mean really. that would mean it's not you merely a newly created facsimile. May as well torture yourself so a character in a video game would be happier.
ratholin 2 years ago
Thank god there is no heaven for you Krossfam. LOL
Thuno 2 years ago
I once heard Jimmy Swaggart in one of his sermons that God would take our feelings away as far as loving thos whom we loved on Earth. Yes!, we'll remember them, but we'll have no feeling of sorrow or any pity even if they were our sons, daughters, grand kids, parents, etc.
To me, that is evil!.
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argent2020 2 years ago
@argent2020 Jimmy Swaggart is evil, as are almost all evangelical preachers, so it makes sense that he would be promoting such a warped viewpoint as loving and legitimate. Shit like this pisses me off to no end, and there are so many people who don't think this nonsense through, and there are even those that do that remain unaffected! I simply don't understand how anyone could earnestly believe in such sadism and call it love. Baffling...
misterzonker2584 1 year ago
great fucking video
TheMorbidAtheist 3 years ago
Your videos are so different, particularly in how they highlight the TRUE ramifications of believing in what the Christians preach (and I'm sure many other religions). The true injustice, depravity, and cruelty of the God they profess to worship.
Are they so ignorant or blinded to never even think of these things. Do they not care? In your example though perhaps they simply assume the "God" would make them completely forget about their precious loved child. Is that what they want?
EmeraldView 3 years ago
I asked this question to a Christian and they told me that I'll be so happy to be with God that it won't even matter to me. Really?
Anything that separates people from one another is a disgrace to humanity, whether in heaven or earth. America spends so much time whining about tyrants in foreign lands, but loves this tyrant in the sky.
lovintoskate 3 years ago
Hey if gods happy then you will be happy damn it! Forget about that bitch!
jdheatme 3 years ago
wow................... stop looking for aguments and go die somewhere
beandick3 3 years ago
If you were a christian I could understand your statement but it appears you are an atheist like myself so perhaps your just rude and mean-hearted.
jdheatme 3 years ago
oh ok i thought you were a weird christian, spewing shit saying "forget about your family if gods happy, what else matters" my appoligies
beandick3 3 years ago
Thanks for the apology. You don't often see that on the internet. But I can see where you misunderstood me. It was just a failed attempt at atheist humor. Cheers
jdheatme 3 years ago
Good post. You have illustrated a concept that I pondered even when I was a Christian. How could I be happy in heaven if my children are burning in hell. Most Christians never think about this and preachers dare not mention it on Sunday morning.
zyrover 3 years ago
"don't be surprised" I thought that summed everything up. Ever wonder why there are so many hounted places areound everywhere? Hehehehehe...... must've gotten to biggest surprise of their afterlife journeys.
Blogdub 3 years ago
this video's main thought is the main reason why i have a problem with fundamentalism. To reason you will not weep for those in hell. How could one accept paradise while their loved ones. THose that they protected and cherished burn and are ripped apart for eternity. That is not the definition of a god of love. That is us humans putting our beliefs onto god.
ShellySummers 3 years ago
I like to think that all respectful religions are correct. They all basically have the same ideals and values, "Be good and righteous."
I think that if you are TRULY deep down a noble person, you will get to Heaven.
SpanielDshock 3 years ago
I prefer to think that all the really messed up religions with hell doctrine are true; that way, each person will get to go to the hells of all the religions they didn't believe in! Yay!
Celephaith 3 years ago
I'm glad people are tormented by the idea of Hell. I'm also glad that people use Hell to make people get to understanding God. If they believe in it - they deserve it.
GOD IS DEAD
VIOLENTANTAGONIST 3 years ago
Vleertouwer
watch 23 minutes in hell
psychejc 3 years ago
What a shitty video. The audio was terrible, and from what I COULD hear it was all the same bullshit I have refuted countless times before. There are many religions with hell doctrine; and the funny thing is, there is nothing that proves that the Christian version is any more real than any of the other ones. And what if it's all a trick? What if your god is an evil prick who lied to the ancients, and the only way he can send you to hell is if you believe in him? Prove me wrong.
Celephaith 3 years ago
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LOL Hilarious video!
I mean, a 15 year old made this video right? Great short-sightedness and lack of understanding on the whole concept of Heaven.
Makes for a funny video though.
RacingSnailClub 3 years ago
what is short-sightened about this video? do you understand the concept of heaven better? have you even been there? NO
I think this is a great video. it shows that heaven is not necessarily a paradise.
me and almost everyone I know are atheist/agnostic, so if we are wrong anyways (chance is very small that religion is real) , we're together in hell.
Vleertouwer 3 years ago 6
You're a tool...that is all, Vleertouwer got to you before I did, you moron....
Zarro504 3 years ago 2
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"the video isn't about being astonished that god would send people to hell, it is about person who is just sad that their daughter is in hell. Most people are comforted with the thought that they might see their relatives in heaven and the video is showing that this is not the case"
:)
Moral of the story, tell your family about Jesus.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
lol. That wasn't what I was going for but you can get whatever lesson you want out of my video. I don't mind
KT45 3 years ago
I understand your position. I can only promise you that I debate, more effectively and elaborate better when not constrained. Feel free to make public anything you wish, but coming back here and cutting up my arguments and reorganizing them is simply too much of a hassle and takes more time. Also, I do not discuss debates I have, public or not, If I do not have what was said (such as this page or a saved pm, of which I have a lot).
respect
jazzyhap 3 years ago
I'm saying you believe in a being that does those things
could you please refrence when the "God that doesnt exist" performed these things.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
"It is not a human life yet"
This is hypocracy. This is a video crying over a daughter in hell, saying God is immoral, when "daughters and sons" are murdered just for the sake of convenience.
If it is not human life, what is it, a squirel? an ape?
That is hypocracy that sickens me. You are condoning murder.
Surly you can see this. Please rethink your position on this. I do not you would condone it personally, but in fear of "rights" death comes to many. Dont turn your head andignore
jazzyhap 3 years ago
Replying via pm because of text limitations and complexity of statements may require room- Cheers.
starfishsicko 3 years ago
I would appreciate if you posted here. People will log onto this video and be tripped up by the message. I want my comments to be public and I do not want any confusion on what was or was not said. Though this video, the one who posted and creator of it may not be connected to the True Satanic Church, but the beliefs and doctrine are the same.
This is a video with a Satanic message. Jesus died to save all. If people refuse that, what CAN be done for them? Sound the ALARM there is a HELL!!!
jazzyhap 3 years ago
I understand your position. I can only promise you that I debate, more effectively and elaborate better when not constrained. Feel free to make public anything you wish, but coming back here and cutting up my arguments and reorganizing them is simply too much of a hassle and takes more time. Also, I do not discuss debates I have, public or not, If I do not have what was said (such as this page or a saved pm, of which I have a lot).
starfishsicko 3 years ago
4 Google - atheist levey satanism
or just look up anything on "true" satanism. Those are the values you are holding, that of a satanist.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
You know very little of my values, other than abortions should be legal, but heavily restricted and based on stage and circumstance. Other than that you have made only assumptions based on ignorance. If you are truly interested in my personal morality and the various forms I draw it from, then I would be pleased to enlighten you :).
starfishsicko 3 years ago
3 - I believe in God.
If a God "existed" and done all those tragides, I would understand the point, but if a God that doesnt exist done it, thats like saying the dog that doesnt exist just bit my leg.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
And I'm saying you believe in a being that does those things and it is sad. Also, Albeit slightly hypocritical since he committed abortions and murder on a world wide scale according to your doctrine. I do not use him as a source of morality. I use him as a fictional character to show how sick the majority of human minds can be.
starfishsicko 3 years ago
2. "I don't wathc foot ball so his opinion means nothing to me, sorry."
Nothing to be sorry about. I gave an example of a rich American tradition and the same values I expressed about this video he expressed. And though you may not care about life outside of your own, Vince is well respected. In fact the Super Bowl Trophy's name is the "Vince Lambardi Trophy". The reason I used him for example is because the view I shared is mainstream and in no way unheard of.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
I care fo my life, my family's well being, and that of my friends. There are some traditions I like and some I do not in this country. Tradition does not always translate into good.
But on the subject of tradition and quotes-heres a nifty one for you:"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my Profession." Abraham Lincoln.
starfishsicko 3 years ago
1 - "He is trying to force morals and opinions with violence" Death is still Death, Murder is still Murder. If you believe it is ok for scared teenage girls to murder, thats sad and sick.
Anyways, it is not narrowed to scared teenage girls, there are alot of women who just choose to not be bothered and abort out of convenience. Much like Osama, who would want us dead for his convenience.
It's not a right too choose, it's a right to murder.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
I do not see it as murder, I see it as termination of potential life. To me Potential life=/=Existing life. I do however, see it as a sad situation that occurs too often, and sometimes used as a get out of jail free card which is horrendous imo. However, to me. It is not a human life yet, so it is not murder. Of course when it comes to me, this also depends on circumstance and stage of pregnancy (for example, brain has started to cognitively develop, then its human, but thats just me.)
starfishsicko 3 years ago
Matthew 10:37
"He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
Being a Father, Mother, Son, or Daughter is a PRIVLEDGE. If you believe in the LORD, and don't show the way, are you going to blame God? Some people would rather ABORT their daughters
Why are you astonished at God refusing the very people that refused him?
You have your choice, what are you going to do?
jazzyhap 3 years ago
Your god is a self absorbed maniac. If this is a philosophy you adhere to, please do not have children. Also, abortion has nothing to do with this video. But since we are on the subject, according to Christian doctrine, at least to the best of my knowledge, they go to hell. What kind of fairness is that?
starfishsicko 3 years ago
The fairness is that Jesus died so the baby does NOT have to go to hell.
You support abortion and condemn loving God above your family. Even Vince Lambardi said, "...God, family, then the Green Bay Packers..."
Better loving God who supports love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance.
Than serving the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life, only being self-centered, even to the point of abortion.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
1. Don't support abortion, sorry that you made that assumption. I support the choice, I do not wish to force my morals on others. But Jesus' sacrifice only works if you accept him, a baby cannot be baptized if its aborted, so it goes to hell.
2. Who is Vince Lambardi?
3. Same god who slaughtered millions, has a personality complex, advocates rape, and does not exist.
4. You mean, being human?
If you wish to continue this exchange, please send me a pm. Cheers.
starfishsicko 3 years ago
1 "I support the choice" Then i guess you supported Osama Bin Ladens want to kill Americans. I am sure you wouldnt want to "force your morals on others". I will never understand people who will protect the born, but not the unborn.
2 - Green Bay Packers Coach, NFL, Super Bowls 1 and 2
3 - How does a God that does not exist slaughter millions, have a personality complex, and advocate rape. Do you realize how dumb that statement was?
4 More "True" Satanic, Levey style.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
1. He is trying to force morals and opinions with violence. As such, I would meet him with violence. He is hardly comparable to the scared teenage girls who more often than not made a couple bad choices in their life and make one more. I could tell them the harms that come with abortion, but I would not force them to do anything one way or the other. In the end, its on their conscious or soul if you prefer.
TheoneandonlyDrStar 3 years ago
Sorry, TheoneandonlyDrStar is my brothers account. I did not realize He was logged in and not me.
starfishsicko 3 years ago
2. I don't wathc foot ball so his opinion means nothing to me, sorry.
3. I am aware of his non existence, I thought you were not. I was saying you believe a being capable of these atrocities is deserving of worship. To me, that sounds dumb. I was drawing a comparison-If I was mistaken about your beliefs, feel free to inform me :).
starfishsicko 3 years ago
4. 4. Nope, its being human. But part of being human is knowing how to control yourself. Another part is making mistakes and learning from them. But as long as you are not harming sentient life, I could really care less what one does.
starfishsicko 3 years ago
You may contine it here or on the "10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer" video forum.
jazzyhap 3 years ago
>>"If you believe in the LORD, and don't show the way, are you going to blame God?"
The character in my video wasn't blaming god
>>"Why are you astonished at God refusing the very people that refused him?"
the video isn't about being astonished that god would send people to hell, it is about person who is just sad that their daughter is in hell. Most people are comforted with the thought that they might see their relatives in heaven and the video is showing that this is not the case
KT45 3 years ago
The idea of heaven is eternal happiness, yet I always hear that true happiness is only possible with free will.
If the people in heaven do have free will, yet do no wrong and are 100% happy, why couldn't God make us that way in life?
If the people in heaven are happy because they have no free will, then what's so great about free will?
Either way, in order to enjoy heaven you'd have to take pleasure in or be callous to the suffering of those in hell. Which sounds like a sin to me.
SeenAndNotSeen 3 years ago 4
god is a being of infinite hate and lies
queerchs 4 years ago 2
Funniest Video on the Internets!
thereminstatic 4 years ago
That's why it's extremely important to tell the good news before it's too late.
beautybrainsbrawn 4 years ago
wow my friend I am a fellow artist and story teller as well you can check out my myspace page or deviant art page just type "art of daniel montuoro" on google.
I have to say this video was pretty well done I particularly loved the last frame it doesn't matter that it is a rough sketch the idea itself carried through. the line of weeping people who has entered into this eternal suffering.
xjager513 4 years ago
Perfect. The possibility of the existence of hell perfectly destroys the possibility that there is a heaven. Because there is no god, and no afterlife. And it's really important for EVERYONE to understand this!
Oceanus57 4 years ago 2
my answer -it's just one religion among many. and one of only two (to my knowledge) that threaten hell. i love the professor Dawkins' argument - nobody worries about what would Thor or Zeus do to them for not believing :) or Krishna or Vishnu or Manitu for that matter...
grumpikitten 4 years ago
ach die christen haben eine tolle falsche vorstellung vom paradies. werdet muslim bevor der todesengel kommt.
AnsarYasin 4 years ago
Wow. An honest appeal to emotion. It kinda makes me sad for the poor guys situation. Thanks for attaching it to my video. It's always nice to have support. :)
clicb4 4 years ago
lemme tell ya one thing. in heaven, u wont bother about what u have done on earth. u'll only praise God. no mourning in heaven there's only praise.. so this is totally wrong, dude...
cuinkz 4 years ago
Oh okay. So if your loved one is being tormented forever, you won't bother about them, you'll only praise God? If that is cool with you that is fine.
KT45 4 years ago
u playin wid peoples mind if ur a christian den we no ur lying u never see muslim makin heaven or hell as a picture am a christian my self u should be ashamed of ur self? and u call dat god no 1 nows how he looks like dum scum
Lindagirl05 4 years ago
Absolutely fantastic, a perspective not considered or presented, and sword of truth that even the most devout cannot deny. Brilliant.
Krippers 4 years ago 2
That was great, man. Do more.
jhfgjfdgsujh 4 years ago
well you have the christian church definition on the Bible not the actual Bible definition on the next life. To learn that study the Greek and Hewbrew and look at every thing that is being said understand that it is in parables. The sick idea of people going to Hell like is taught is wrong.
ez2u 4 years ago
I agree, put as much effort into studying the bible, as you do making these videos, and maybe the content of them might change.
MrVisions 4 years ago
Well actually I need to put MORE time into making these videos and less time studying the bible lol. Anyway I do plan on studying more but this video mostly deals with the common preception of hell and heaven stylized in a very simple art form. But yeah, more studying to be done. Catch ya later
KT45 4 years ago
Nice Job!!
Religion is so retarded. All those adults walking around with their invisible friend...HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
SynapticChaos 4 years ago
I'm confused...and I should be!!! None of us know what heaven and hell really is!!!
number1ccrowsfan 4 years ago
lol.... you called that heaven? more like the 2nd life. heaven is not something so easily comprehend.
ShenOmega 4 years ago
Good point made but personally i think the cartoon could have been a minute shorter maybe a bit repectitive and D-R-A-W-N out.
styace 4 years ago
Interesting. very poinient.
dechha1981 4 years ago
Good point, well said
Zargata 4 years ago 2
Oh, sooooo true. Wow, this is so spot on.
AtheistAaron 4 years ago
Heaven is full of strong people. You can't be attached to anything or else you will never be happy or be able to go to heaven! You won't go if you can't handle it. Remember anything is possible...
daruler5240 4 years ago
Ah, another chris-chin with a perfect understanding of what god wants and exactly what heaven is. Congratulations on you wisdom, and your majestic arrogance and conceit.
Oceanus57 4 years ago
Ahh, im bawling. Good vid. I think about this all the time.
Shaunteisrad 4 years ago
you don't have to believe in god to go to heaven, just be good you can go to heaven.I am Buddhist by the way.Also that goes for all the religions. Don't listen to the people who saids you have to believe in jesus to go to heaven.believe in yourself do good. then you can go to heaven.
DDBZ 4 years ago
Buddhism has to be one of the most unsensable religons ever.Being good to go to heaven? Idiot
DzEternal 4 years ago
Irony? Of course the idea that good people will be punished simply because of being unwilling to accept obscure and possibly distorted belief systems is hard to accept. I don't think the essence of Christianity supports the idea that only Christians will go to heaven.
lmolari 4 years ago
I don't think a consensus can be reached to decide what the "essence of Christianity supports." I can't even find 2 Christians who believe in the same god/rules. Some Christians have the soft & cuddly view of god & just as many will miss the point of this video entirely, like daruler5240 here & likely cream themselves at the thought of nonbelievers suffering for all eternity.
AtheistTeam 4 years ago
If only you could read the bible , you´d understand
God´s heart and His plan of salvation.Besides bible says that all tears will be wiped away!
Who can reach God´s mind??? I can´t. Can you?
MarioCorleone69 4 years ago
I came across a show on tv where a minister was talking about the memory of the person who doesn't make it there being removed. I thought about that for a minute and realized that this would probably be the best thing to have happen. You'll never see them again anyway, so doing this would be the most loving thing to do.
runteddy 4 years ago
Whaaaaaaat? What's this about not tampering with people's thoughts or free will?
JonathanClement140 4 years ago
Do you draw those?
JonathanClement140 4 years ago
hm..we muslims dont believe in that!
we belive in heaven there is no such thing!
no sorrow:)
you will not remember her if that makes you sad, so easy:)
8891111 4 years ago
yeap I've heard that before...
QualityXmediaDotCom 4 years ago
The concept of an all knowing all powerful God is infinite and impossible to understand by us because the human mind has a limit, and while we can create the idea of infinity, to put human concepts to it doesn't work. I personally hate the "God works in mysterious ways" cop out to questions like these, but our imagination has a limit and to understand something that is infinite, such as the concept of God, is impossible.
musumeci88 4 years ago
If there are real and my loved ones were burning in hell and I went to Heaven. I would kindly give up Heaven just so I could see my loved ones. Yes, I would want to go to hell. Because if you are with your loved ones, then hell won't be a hell anymore now would it? As long as you see them and know your with them. No matter what Satan does, at least your in the same place. Plus I have a feeling Satan might be more forgiving then God ever was.
FreakAboutSims 4 years ago
Also, I see Hell was WWE RAW and Heaven as WWE SmackDown! You probably get a choise on where you want to go. If you happen to go to Heaven. Satan seems more forgiving now that I think of it. Heaven's a monarchy, and hell is probably a depoacy.
FreakAboutSims 4 years ago
You say that because you have no concept of hell. And, from what I've heard and read about hell, one of it's many torments is loneliness, see even if you do get to see your loved ones, you may not even be able to speak to them. And, would it be a good thing to see you loved ones in perpetual agony, unable to help out in anyway?
runteddy 4 years ago
Anyway, if you make it to heaven, you'll understand that the offer of salvation was offered to them freely but they turned it down. I think that in heaven, we will have a full understanding of the plan of redemption and hell being a place of punishment for rejecting it.
runteddy 4 years ago
Gawd, you don't get it, do you? MAKING SOMEBODY SUFFER FOR ALL ETERNITY IS COMPLETELY INSANE and it's OBVIOUSLY made by a HUMAN mind to scare people into submission.
JonathanClement140 4 years ago
Learning about suffering in the Hell ISN'T REALLY FROM THE BIBLE, and it's insulting our God. He is loving and justice, and fire tortures for always (as a punishment for a short sinful live)are extremely cruel and unjust. Wicked, who've known truth about God but have chosen evil will just not be ressurected for eternal life in restored Paradise on Earth (e.g.Romans6:7; John 5:28,29; Revel.21:3-5; Math.5:5)
ZooropaDweller 4 years ago
Moral of the Story:
God's an asshole. :D
Tonio31 4 years ago
grow up there is no heaven or hell
truthfounder 4 years ago
I figure that when we get to heaven, we will have a full understanding of why those we know and love are in hell. We will understand that they had the opportunity to be forgiven of their sin, but the refuse to be. I think that then, we will fully understand the justice of God and will know why those people are in hell. And, even with this being so, I don't think that there is anyone crying in heaven, but that's just me.
runteddy 4 years ago
So what let me get this. You would not be upset if you understood why someone was burning forever? So if someone like your spouse was accused of being a witch and she was going to be burned at the stake. If the judge let you have full understanding of why she is about to be burned alive you wouldn't be sad because you fully understand the justice of the judge?
KT45 4 years ago
The analogy that you gave doesn't fit cuz with salvation, there is a choice in the matter and though there are some who don't know about it, there are many who don't wanna know about it and many others who will just flat out refuse it. For those who don't know about it, God will deal with them fairly, but the others will end up in hell straight up. I feel that those in heaven will know this and will see the justice in this. That' what I'm saying. Some may disagree...
runteddy 4 years ago
Why isn't this analogy valid? In my analogy there is a choice in the matter since your spouse can ch