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  • For everyone saying the guy is crazy and ice cream is so bad for you yada yada yada... you should know he is JOKING about the ice cream, the man is vegan and does not put ice cream on his salad or anywhere else on his dinner table... unless it's homemade banana "ice-cream" made by freezing a banana and then blending it with a little natural vanilla extract.

    He was just making the point that olive oil is higher in calories and is not a weight loss food any more than Ben and Jerry's is.

  • Another 'OFF' Dr. Read your history books before you speak to people, Jeff.

  • Thank you Jeff. I had not realised that olive oil was so unhealthy in my diet. Eating salad with no dressing now.

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  • Someone tell this dipshit that oil by definition IS fat and millions of thin people in the Mediterranean can't be wrong!

  • junk science: saturated fat is not bad.

  • @goosewort

    Saying that you've become "fat adapted" is junk science

  • Haha, all the people on here defending their fats is hilarious. The collective ignorance on fructose and glucose is also funny. Oil isn't health food.

  • That person is stupid

    

  • I hope your not getting paid for this.

  • Who cares about olive oil!!! We have a epidemic of refine foods, sugar, white bread, on and on!!!.........and this idiot is worried about olive oil!!

  • @grvonny We hear ya, but the details exist. I get slight inflammatory response on my face, in places, when I eat foods with isolated vegetable oils, including canola and olive oils. It corroborates with my experience. Quantity and quality are factors also.

  • Although i don't advocate any oils i would still say that eating a salad with the oil would be heathier then the icecream since icecream contains too much rubbish like sugar. Second the body prefers fats as an energy source, and all this crap about saturated fats [not including hydrogenated ones ] is simply not true. The real cause of all the ill health in moden society is all down to processed carbs,sugar, and oils that have become rancid during their production. Why? because of money !

  • @Majorsixth The body does not prefer fats as an energy source. Every cell runs on glucose. This is basic physiology. We are carbohydrate eaters.

  • @PaleAfternoon Yes the human body does use glucose, But can run just fine on ketone bodies. It's true that red, white blood cells, retina,and the cornea require glucose because they lack a mitochondria this is why we have a fasting glucose plasma. Red blood cells are necessary for oxygen diffusion/cell respiration , However, the human body is capable of making glucose from protein and even fats for this purpose. You obviously have very little understanding of human biology. Good luck !

  • @Majorsixth The process that you speak of, gluconeogenesis, is a taxing, and lengthy one for the body to go through in order to convert fats and proteins to glucose. The brain runs on 2/3 glucose, and EVERY other cell in the body runs on glucose/fructose. Why then would you go through the toxic state of ketosis to get your fuel from fat and protein while simultaneously depleting your glycogen stores when you could easily get the energy from carbohydrates? It makes absolutely no sense

  • @PaleAfternoon Gluconeogenesis occurs with every single meal containing protein, in fact approximately 58% of protein becomes glucose. So taxing isn't a word that i would describe it as! Further more the brain can run entirely on ketone bodies. Ketosis is not a toxic process unless you suffer from type 1 diabetes because ketones can then build up within the blood to cause ketoneacidosis. High carbohydrate intake is the cause of metabolic syndrome. You have poor understanding of biology

  • @PaleAfternoon One last point, The energy required for gluconegenesis is 4 calories per gram which is exactly the same for the digestion of polysaccharides, disaccharides into monosaccharides, such as glucose, galactose, fructose. By the way when the fasting blood glucose is at 5.5mol the body automatically goes in to ketosis until you eat either carbs or protein, but since eating doesn't occur while sleeping most people enter ketosis during the night. Read some books go educate your self.

  • @Majorsixth I'd really like to see your references for those claims. The ONLY way you would enter ketosis through fasting is if your glycogen stores were depleted. It comes as no surprise, with your anti-carb mindset that you would be depleted. Again... the only way "58%" of consumed protein would be converted to glucose would be if you were eating a very high protein, low carb diet. Furthermore, ketosis IS a toxic state, and the consumption of excess protein is damaging to the liver

  • @PaleAfternoon You really don't have a clue about the human metabolism. The body controls it's triglycerides within the adipose tissues by going in and out of ketosis. People become obese because of high carb intake, which in turn provokes high insulin out put and that blocks the the process of ketosis . Not being able to burn stored fat. leads to obesity. When the body stores of glycogen fall the body turns to gluconeogenesis and begins to digest muscles and internal organ. Go read some books

  • @Majorsixth this does not explain why some people are thin while others are obese on the same diet.  Metabolic syndrome, hypothyroidism etc Some people can eat huge amounts of carbs and remain thin. Some have inefficient metabolisms. Some books say the opposite to others.

  • @PaleAfternoon A perfect example of good metabolism can be observed within mammals that hybernate. They store body fat to use as energy while they sleep for long periods This is the process of ketosis, I don't imagine black bears find it toxic. I reckon it would be a grand idea if you asked a teacher to help you before you start writing about issues you don't understand. Final response, good bye.

  • @Majorsixth A high carb diet is not the cause of diabetes or the myriad diseases that people attribute to it. Mixing high-fat and high-(processed)carbs is the real danger. You say you know your physiology, but again, this is basic human physiology... we run the best with whole-food carbohydrates, low fat, low protein.

  • @Majorsixth your words corroborate with my experience, indeed.

  • Some of you seem to be missing the point completely. People have lived over 100 years despite smoking cigarettes every day of their life since adolescence. Pointing to some freak exception, and listening to what she *believes* was the cause of the longevity, is ridiculous. It's bad science.

    As to replacing it with sugar and ice cream, he was INTENTIONALLY showing an absurd comparison, but did you even listen to his comparison in terms of the nutritional characteristics??

  • Oh God!!My fellow Cretans who were fed with olive oil for thousands of years were actually fed with nature's #1 junk!!! I really have to warn them to exchange with sugar and ice-cream so that to gain U.S people longivity and health...we are grateful...

  • It's so sad to see people like Mr Novick to appear such an (deliberate?) ignorance against olive oil...

  • I guess Mr Novick has at least one case of obessity caused by excessive olive oil consumption...

  • How do you explain the longest living woman on the planet who was addicted to the stuff? 122 years strong...

    Quote:

    "She ascribed her longevity and relatively youthful appearance for her age to olive oil, which she said she poured on all her food"

  • Saturated fat is not bad for you people!!

  • Where the hell has thy guy come out from? Not even a child would get into such a stupid trap!

    Oil is fat, by definition. Would would be surprised not finding carbohydrates or proteins in it. Not a word about the antioxidants, which are so important!

    14% saturated fat means 86% unsaturated fat.

    Ice-cream is loaded with sugar (including lactose), animal proteins (which "switch on" cancer as T.Colin Campbell says), cholesterol.

    This presentation is rubbish.

  • comparing premium icecreams to olive oil is stupid. Icecreams are loaded with sugar, which spikes your insuline levels, making you more easily store fat. Fat itself, ironically, does hardly raise insuline levels.

  • yeah right, people in america have cut out sugar and started eating salads with olive oil and still have gotten fat. Give me a break

    PS dont believe the calorie hype just look and sucrose and fructose. Fructose has less calories but the body turns all the fructose into fat.

  • This guy is an idiot. Everyone knows oils have a lot of calories. You work it into your diet accordingly. He must think we are all idiots like him. Sugar on the other hand is garbage and half of it turns straight into fat on your body and is not used. With olive oil your body uses all of it in good ways unlike sugar. What an idiot.

  • This presentation is deceiving and misleading, because it is quite common for someone to drink 10 cans of cola a day which can have up to 10tsp of sugar per can, but you would not find someone eating the equivalent in olive oil. Not to mention the effect the sugar has on your central nervous system, the effects on your liver, insulin spikes and the promotion of diabetes.

    This is bs, creative accounting to make bad things look good.

  • Why would you want to limit saturated fat?

  • For years We been told Using Extra Virgin Olive oil is better than other oils. This was awaking with all books tell to use Olive oil . Olive to lubrication good for your Brian. would expand on your topic?????

  • Maybe you should stop focusing on calories & place emphasis on the larger picture. Your ice cream is most likely from commerically farmed livestock injected with growth hormone & antibiotics. Moreover, you're consuming casein protein & aside from the many studies showing the detrimental effects of this protein, there are also positive correlations between animal proteins & fats and cancer. 2 tsps of olive oil wins, no contest.

  • oil won't work on cleaning your windows, it won't work on your digestive tract either. common sense. the fat you eat is the fat you wear.

  • @VeganSkaterDood nothing could be further from the truth. Study after study proves it but the masses are still ignorant. Saturated fat has been shown to be quite healthy for humans. If eating fat makes you fat , how can you explain people loosing huge amounts of weight eating high fat/low carb diets?

  • @samherb1

    haha any diet high in fat is absolute rubbish, anybody with the least bit of common says knows that. All the primates that are almost identical to us thrive off a LOW FAT diet mainly fruits and greens... You can't find fat all year round in nature. Sure theyll lose some weight but probably yo-yo right back and forth. You want the best results go low fat, preferably under 10% total calories from fat.

  • @VeganSkaterDood There are different kinds of fat.....some good for humans, some not. Tell an Eskimo that a high fat diet is bad for humans. FYI......we are not monkeys.

  • @samherb1

    No shit, the most optimal fats for human consumption are found in fruits,veggies and nuts and seeds, case closed. I commented on this video in the first place cuz the guy was exposing the truth about these "healthy oils" when bottom line there garbage, you would never find a bottle of oil in nature. I'm raw vegan man, i did my homework and i'm on top of my game.. It's always people like you with ZERO uploads that love to run there mouth! for all i know, your a 300 pnd whale

  • @VeganSkaterDood "Case closed".....Well I'm glad you settled it....LOL!! Unfortunately for you many studies and millions of years of history disagree with you. While raw vegan is much healthier than what most people eat it is far from optimal. Why do you suppose our ancestors hunted animals for millions of years if raw vegan is the optimal diet.

  • @samherb1

    haha what do you think they did before they hunted and cooked animals for millions of years??!! ATE RAW FOOD, i just met the LIFEREGENERATOR at whole foods, it's all good, do whatever makes you happy bro. Peace.

  • @samherb1 If carbs make you fat hwo do you explain all the people losing weight on a high carb-low fat plant based diet? All the longest-lived cultures did eat meat but it was a very small percentage of the diet as the bulk of their diet was always starches (potatoes,rice,corn,barley,etc­). Everyone I see that goes on low-carb diets loses a little weight at first and get stuck and then end up binging on crap and gaining most back...

  • And is this guy making a big deal about olive oil having more calories than whatever product? Hello, it's a fat. Fat is the most calory-dense product we eat, no shit that 2 tablespoons have more calories than 2 tables spoons of any other food... That doesn't mean it's bad in any way. No matter how calory dense any food is, as long as you balance your diet around enough protein and enough calorys etc.

  • @SinisterSkip It's still junk it has no nutrients and is just fat. This guy is telling the truth. Most long-lived cultures ate a starch based diet very low in fat. They didn't use oil (which doesn't taste good anyway). That's why they could eat high carb and not get fat. Are protein and fat needs are much lower than what the average person thinks. Olive oil and oil period is crap and we are much better off with it.

  • @82Bdog

    Your whole post is filled with bias, short mindedness etc. No use arguing with you. Here's a fact for you: fat doesn't hardly raises your insuline level, medium/fast carbs do. High insuline levels cause you to store more of your food intake as fat. Good luck with your bigotry and your carb diet. The last few years the low fat, high carb diets have been CRUSHED by fat+protein diets in effectiveness, due to more insulin level control than carb diets. Fact.

  • @SinisterSkip wrong these doctors (esselstyn,ornish,mcdougall,et­c) are helping and even reversing many type 2 diabetics. Nobody on high carb low fat whole food plant based diet has problems with high insulin. Keep that bullshit to yourself to save you further embarrassment. Fact

  • @SinisterSkip Glad to see someone on this comment section is informed. Unfortunately for some of these people veganism is not just a diet, it is a religion. All the proof in the world won't let them consider their diet may not be optimal.

  • @82Bdog

    So according to you, water is also junk? I mean, it's "just water" no nutrients. What a silly argument.

  • @SinisterSkip water is not a calorie source genius.  Wake up lol!

  • How about a simple rule for everyone: too much fat is bad, not because it (olive oil for instance) has saturated fat, but because it's dense in calories and that makes you fat, with tons of health risks related to BEING FAT, not related to the fat itself. That's one of the relations that many fail to get. The only fat that's really bad for you is transfat, and unfortunately in your America, with all your processed crap, there's a ton of transfats and sugars added to many foods.

  • ... contd. Loading up on sugar usually leads to weight gain because the excessive sugar that can't be burnt for energy is stored as fat by insulin, the hormone that carries the sugar into the cells.

  • Ha! Not quite right. Americans have never gained any substantial weight just from olive oil. What leads to obesity is a high-carb diet (high in sugar, such as the Ben and Jerry's ice cream). Consumption of healthy oils, such as olive oil and coconut oil, actually can lead to weight loss if you reduce the amount of carb you're eating. That is because the body then becomes more apt at fat burning, which helps the fat metabolism... cont.

  • @msizziekay What makes those oils healthy?? As he just proved there is no nutrients in oil no matter what kind. I used to believe oil was very healthy also but it's just not true. You are falling for b.s marketing.

  • @82Bdog

    Give me ONE bad thing about olive oil, consider you use it, -> while keeping your overal calory intake for the day at a balanced range. Give me ONE. That's right you can't. The fact that it only contains calories doesn't make it unhealthy.

  • @SinisterSkip I just did it is just empty calories and fat. Sure if you keep your fat low then it may not be a problem but it's very hard to do that when you add oil to food.

  • @82Bdog

    "Sure if you keep your fat low then it may not be a problem"

    Oke confession one. An open minded thinking person would have said this immediately in the discussion.

    Apart from that you can search ergogenics - org and TONS of sources about the positive effects of anti-oxidants in olive oil, so it's not just "empty" calories. Many vegetables are also admired for their anti oxidant properties so it would only be fair to judge olive oil the same.

  • @SinisterSkip

    You don't see anti oxidants in the cool chart in this video, while it's one of the key health components of fruits and vegetables (and therefor plant juices/oils etc.). It should be on any list.

  • @SinisterSkip Sorry dude it's clear you're gonna keep clinging to your BELIEF that olive oil is good for you lol. If it does have any anit-oxidants that still doesn't mean you need them. There are plenty of anti-oxidants in fruits and vegetables and whole foods period. Also why not eat the whole olive instead of drinking the oil or fat from it?? I used to believe like you that olive oil was some kind of health food but I kept a open mind and kept researching and it clearly isn't.

  • @82Bdog

    My point is 1. It's not unhealthy. There's no research that says so. If you take too much fat, you get fat, same for carbs or even protein. That's not inherent to the olive oil itself. 2. It is healthy, because it has anti oxidants. Yes, they're replacable, the same can be said for certain anti oxidants on fruits and veggies. Does that make the anti oxidants any less effective or the food less healthy? No. I rest my case.

  • @SinisterSkip Not a very good point as you are still staing what you think as facts. Oil is still just refined fat. Nutrients work together that's why most supplements are garbage as they pull one nutrient from a plant and market it when it would be better just to eat the whole food. Tobbaco has loads of minerals and anti oxidants also should we just start eating that??

  • @82Bdog

    Sure I agree whole foods are almost always the best choice, but that does not negate any point I've made about the oil. The studies done on olive oil only suggest health benefits, no risks connected to the oil itself.

  • @82Bdog Sorry for the late reply. Yes, these oils are indeed healthy. First of all, the lipids are necessary for proper cell metabolism, the skin, and many other functions in the body. Also, coconut oil and olive oil are less prone to oxidation from heat, light, or (of course) oxygen, and therefore less prone to free radical formation, unlike most of the other plant oil (soy, corn, canola, sunflower). Those plant oils are polyunsaturated and extremely prone to oxidation and normally already

  • @82Bdog ...contd. rancid when bought at the supermarket. It is actually a myth that saturated fat (of course in moderation) is unhealthy. Also, coconut oil and olive oil are low in omega 6 fatty acids (unlike the other plant oils) which most people get too much of nowadays. Humans have consumed saturated fats forever, and the incidence of heart disease just increased when processed oils and fats like margarine and those plant oils where introduced for human consumption...

  • @82Bdog Fats are also important to absorb fat-soluble vitamins better. Look up the Rosedale Diet (which in my opinion is extreme) where it is explained that it is actually easier to lose weight on a diet that emphasizes healthy fats, and reduces simple carbs.

  • @82Bdog Olive oil is one of the main reasons the "Mediterranean Diet" is considered healthy, and with good reason. Also look up the many health benefits of Coconut Oil. The medium chain fatty acids provide ready energy, boost your metabolism, and are less taxing on the liver.

  • @msizziekay the meditterranean diet was very high in fruits and vegetables and olive oil was a small part of the diet (maybe a couple tsp a day). The reason their diet was healthy was because of what else they ate not because of the small amount of olive oil. Show me the studies that show coconut oil is what you say it is and actually look up what the meditteranean's ate and not what some one told you.

  • @82Bdog

    Sure, look up these two articles on google, and there's many more...

    "Effects of Dietary Coconut Oil on the Biochemical and Anthropometric Profiles of Women Presenting Abdominal Obesity,"

    "COCONUT OIL: Atherogenic or Not? (What therefore causes Atherosclerosis?)"

    The mediterranean diet per se is not really healthy, too many refined carbs like pasta+bread. With regard to olive oil, look up the National Geographic News report: "Olive Oil Fights Heart Disease, Breast Cancer, Studies Say"

  • @msizziekay did you read the whole NGN article? Under Vegetables: "Scientists say despite the "apparent health benefits" of olive oil scientists do not consider it a miracle food. There may be other reasons why med. populations have lower rates of cancer and heart disease. While olive oil is a central characteristic of the med. diet, people tend to eat far more VEGETABLES,FRUIT,and fish-and LOWER AMOUNTS OF MEAT AND DAIRY than the average american." " It may be a healthier overall diet,"

  • @82Bdog You're right that a diet that emphasizes fresh vegetables and fruit is healthy. And I don't consider certain animal products, like grass-fed beef, eggs, raw dairy etc., unhealthy, but healthy when combined with the vegetables. Also, I didn't say that olive oil is a miracle food! It's the combination of healthy foods that matters in my opinion. But the article clearly states that olive oil has health benefits and shouldn't be avoided, as opposed to what the video above stating.

  • @msizziekay Nothing you say has proved that someone needs olive oil to be healthy so yes it can be avoided. What has been proven is when people are put on a high-carb low fat plant based diet they can reverse heart disease. No other diet has been proven in peer-reviewed studies to do that. Olive oil unless you are using very very little can easily add too much fat in the diet. All the longest-lived pop ever studied where heart disease and cancer were extremely rare ate starch based diets.

  • @82Bdog that were low in fat. And meat was a very small percentage of the overall diet.

  • @82Bdog Um, dietary guidelines constantly change as new insights are gained. Noone needs specifically olive oil to be healthy but it is proven that good fats (in moderation) are needed for health. This NHS report makes reference to a peer-reviewed study that says olive oil consumption wards off stroke: Study finds olive oil 'lowers stroke risk'. The peer-reviewed article is called: " Olive oil consumption, plasma oleic acid, and stroke incidence."

  • @82Bdog Some studies have shown that high-carb diets can reduce insulin sensitivity and increase the chances for diabetes and other diseases. See, for instance, this article (or just the abstract): "Nutrition and Alzheimer's disease: The detrimental role of a high carbohydrate diet"

    Also, this report in the Scientific American explains that saturated fat is not really the culprit of heart disease: "Carbs against Cardio: More Evidence that Refined Carbohydrates, not Fats, Threaten the Heart"

  • @82Bdog Also, some experts say that the China Study was flawed. It can be tough with a lot of conflicting info out there, but "good fats" are fortunately seeing their bad rap reversed as newer research comes in.

  • O.k., it is possible we're both right with our dietary approach, because there's also the concept of "Metabolic Typing" which says depending on your genetic heritage, it is healthier for you to eat relatively more complex carbs or relatively more protein and fat. Veggies are always good in my opinion. Refined carbs are of course unhealthy, and for some people even so-called complex carbs like potatoes and whole bread, etc.

  • well this guy points out extreme examples...but I can understand what he means between the lines. To have and maintain a slim and healthy body you have to eat more raw veggies and fruits and don't be blinded of so called healthfoods...Oliveoil has been marketing as a healthfood for so long time and that can fool people that if they just pour some oliveoil onto their food they will lose weight put that will never happen if you don't change your diet to a more raw food diet.

  • this guys seems pretty level headed.

  • @Kimmxiee He knows that the diet as a whole is what is most important. His point is that people THINK they are doing themselves a favor by putting olive oil on everything, when in fact, they are not.

  • He only looks at the calories of the food, not there nutritional quality or what they do to your cells. Your cells are mostly made up of fat, it's required to repair and build new cells all over your body, aswell as helping to repair tissue.

    He also doesn't look at all the chemicals and sugar in the icecream, compared to the antioxidents (not just vitamin E) that are in the olive oil aswell as the other benifits that you obtain from it.

  • Big difference between mono,poly,and saturated fat from plants and animal saturated fat,its not about calories its about nutrients Mr Jeff Novick !!

  • @RawFoodGuy99

    Yep, there's enough studies proving there's nothing wrong with saturated fats from plant sources.

  • @RawFoodGuy99 exactly and olive oil is empty of nutrients, you made the point

  • @RawFoodGuy99 How is it not about calories when people stay fat or get fatter when they add nuts, seeds, olive oil and avocados to their diet?

    If you're at an ideal weight sure you can have some nuts, seeds, avocado or olive oil if you want. But you're going to stay trim because of all the fruits, vegetables and whole foods you're eating. You're not going to be trim because you're putting avocado and olive oil all over your salad... People are getting fat from high fat salad. Oil, cheese, meat

  • @LowFatVeganChef I don't get fat from eating cheese(on occasion), meat(almost every day), and oil(usually best avoided due to inflammatory response in normal quantities).

    I find starches in excess to be the main fatteners. And cooked food being essential to that. I'm 6'4"x200 athlete/laborer, basic traditional human omnivore, never been fat by a long shot either. Life is about performance. Live it.

  • Why have you removed marcluc's comment? 

  • @TheSuperVegan It was profane.

  • @frugalbeauty ALL dietary fats will cause the blood to "sludge", especially in the capillaries, causing harm to all the body's tissues over time. A truly healthy diet should contain no more than about 12% of calories (8% is great if you're not very active) from ANY form of fat, and should contain NO added fat such as cooking oil or butter/margarine. Search for Dr. John McDougall's videos here to learn more. I've lost a LOT of weight following his advice and I love the things I eat.

  • @progrocker69 : The Okinawans on their traditional diet are one of the healthiest and longest lived populations. Actually they have the highest number of centenarians per-capita of any country in the world. Analysis of their diet in 1949 indicates that fat represented 6% (12grams) of their total daily calories.

  • wow...so what would be the best alternative? grape seed oil?

  • @mindDefyButtin See my response to frugalbeauty, please. But in a nutshell (pun intended), no high fat foods are good for you in large concentrations, and added fat of any kind is a horrible idea.

  • @progrocker69 thanks :o)

  • @mindDefyButtin The best alternative is whole foods. Use avocado or hemp seeds on your salad for example.

  • @mindDefyButtin

    Mix some ripe avocado in with your salad the next time you have one and skip the oils... much tastier and way better for you :)

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