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  • what is a chevy cobalt doing between supercars and how is this americas best handling car when only three cars are american

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  • there is a reason Nissan GTR is in the middle of the front row ;)

  • @QwestL0ve Even a year ago the viper was not the fastest street car on the nurbugring, gumpert apollo and porsche 911, and the corvette zr1 were all ahead of the viper.

  • @tsab13hmong 2012 GTR cant even beat a Z06

  • @itchytasty100 you mean Z06 or ZR1?

  • @itchytasty100 In a straight line :) Oh wait... that's the only thing that counts in america sorry :)

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  • no zo6 that thing handles like barracuda (the fish not the hemi lol)

  • If this Americas best handling vehicles why do they have imports? i don't get it.

  • Where's the Caterham (or any other 7 replica) , atom or lotus Elise?

  • I'd be tossing the 2010 and 2011 Mazdaspeed 3 in there as well. That thing handles like a freaking go-kart.

  • Not really "America's Best" because only 3 of those cars are truly American.

  • @QwestL0ve yeaaa, the 2010 acr is just insane

  • @QwestL0ve good points, although now the porsche gt2 rs is the fastest:) but america has really been stepping up the handling on their cars lately and im glad

  • American powaa

  • If you check MOTOR TREND rx8 was 3rd & in CAR & DRIVER 2009 looking the best handling in cars under $100,000 .rx8 was 3rd again . beating vette & gt-r . Only 2 cars beat rx8 were porsche cayman & lotus. Hard to belive $30,000 car beating $80,000 cars. & is experts opinions . no haters that bla bla bla & don't have cars. nice job from Mazda. check my 8 "RX8 MX5 MY SPORT CARS"

  • first of all mustangs suck and will always suck

  • @golfinguy55555 watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4 M3 vs Mustang

  • @golfinguy55555 maybe not

  • i think the evo is the best handling car from what i've seen here...the cobalt and the mini cooper could be thrown in the middle of the pacific for all i care...either ways...its a stupid comparisson to put a mini cooper and a cobalt up against heavy hitters like a shelby or R8 etc...but...this is america...land of diversity. watch the cobalt win hahaha!

  • @nnas0501 This guys never driven a Cobalt SS.

  • DODGE VIPER LMAO

  • t-rex

  • where supra....

  • @youniss88 its handling. i LOVE he supra, but its not one of the best handling cars. definetly one of the fastest though.

  • CHEVY IS IT for all you haters lol

  • Many many Roush upgrades and shit did the mustang have? hahahaha that made me laugh, all these cars except the cobalt ss made the mustang look even more like shit than it already does, thats no pony car, its horseshit.

  • front wheel drive ? good handling? front wheel drive good handling? coblat minicoper? why not a SMART FORTOW of wtf ?

  • I say it would be between the GTR and the ACR. Leaning more towards the ACR since it has endless grip.

  • no zr1 in the competition?

  • @sraldiris Fuck the ZR1, Viper ACR eats ZR1s

  • They should have brought the Mazdaspeed3 instead of Cobalt SS. Stupid asses.

  • @rforracing Having ridden in both, I can say the Cobalt SS may not handle "as well", but the grip you get is much better. The Speed3 has better feel, but for the money, i'd take Cobalt SS. Mainly cuz it has better looks and the seats are to die for.

  • @americansmark Cobalt's quality sucks. Its made of subpar materials.

  • @rforracing Its a sub-30K car. Any car at that level suffers from some cheapness, be it it engine, interior, suspension, or reliability. The SS motor is very strong, the suspension is top notch, the interior sucks besides the seats and shifter, but is livable, and I don't know anyone who has blown it up just driving. People have blown them by overboosting, but those were the idiots who didn't know how to tune.

  • I hate all the fucking retards who say American handle like shit, when the Viper ACR and ZR1 hold remarkably high lap times to the Green Hell. "Oh, an Enzo would beat that, and so would a Lambo. lololol :DD american suk" The ZR1 and Viper have been slaughtering tons of European and "Japanese sports cars" (While that right there is the biggest fucking paradox I've ever heard) since they were created.

  • why use the porsche 911 turbo, when the GT3 is a better racing car?

  • talkin bout handling, r8 win

    but they almost all of them are not american T_T

  • r8 won btw

  • wtf?? america's best handling car?? just some of them were damn american.. and I bet that none of american cars could beat europeans or japanese LOL

  • @hoganik89 look at the nurburgring time of an ACR and an Enzo. ACR is 3 seconds faster. ZR1 is right up there too. 7:22.4 for ZR1. 7:22.1 Enzo 725.3. CTS-V is 7:59. M5 is 8:13. Nissan GTR is 7:29 so ZR1 and ACR kill that too.

  • the mototrend guys always sound like they just ran or some shit

  • If this is america's best handling car, why they taking cars from different countries? and tbh american cars handle like shit anyway haha :) No offence but all they do is but a big engine and dont even bother with brakes, suspension etc. Why have a muscle car on a track?

  • There never has been and never will be such a term called "americas best handling car"

    THEY ALL HANDLE THE SAME... i mean *hardly* handle the same

  • ha why the heck is the GT500 on there? lol

  • Dont comment in here like your better than others. everybody sees zr1 is better perform than gtr. but dont fancy yourself that zr1 is the best coz it aint. DO YOUR HOMEWORK TOO!! just look at the specs between the two, it doesnt take a rkt scientist to figure zr1 would win!! A PERSON WHO OWNS A REAL SPORTS CAR WOULD NOT TALK LIKE SHIT. I OWN A MODIFIED EVO 9 BY THE WAY.

  • Just because the ZR1 has a better lap time than the GTR doesn't mean it handles better. It made up the disavantage in the straits. Faster than the GTR in a strait but not in the bends...

  • SORRY!!! that is not correct at all!!!! journalist around have put these cars through their paces(gtr vs zr1) in every time the ZR! excellerates faster & harder , more agile and greater road grip! and stops faster than the gtr just about the only thing the gtr beats the vette in is rear seat room! (it's harsh but the truth hurst)

  • Your ignorant... The ZR1 does not have better grip and is not more agile...lol maybe "excellerates" accelerates faster and harder but it does have 200+ HP more than the GTR. Let's see here... Pretty sure the Vette does not even have rear seats soo... The GTR weighs more has a REAR SEAT has less HP smaller engine and still competes with the best Chevy ever made.. HMM says something there huh. BTW the Vspec is like the Z06 compared to the ZR1.... You inbred chicken fucker!!!

  • Look at comments!

  • Try this then you Ignorate Bastered unless your SCARED!!! zr1 vs gtr on the search line YOU WILL SEE A TITLE "ZR1 SMOKES GTR" look at it and adjust your reality. (note this is one of many examples)

  • Yeah I have already seen that. Its bios. Just like on Top Gear when they showed the McLaren F1 beating the Veyron off the line. Do you believe everything you see on the internet?? Lol and what would I be "SCARED" about? Your just a little inbred chicken fucker.

  • Well i can see your a little frustrated, I know your little world is crumbling due to the exposure of reality, (zr1 > gtr) and no I don't believe everything I see that's why I do my homework before I MAKE MY OPINIONS If i where you, GET LAID!!!

  • @gmracing15 woah a 110k car can beat a 70k car. this is amazing. only chevrolet could make a car which can accomplish such an amazing feat.

    truly, engineering gods.

    why does everyone keep forgetting that the ZR-1 costs significantly more than the GT-R, anyway? is it because chevy fanboys are total retards who have to cherry pick to justify their love for total turds?

  • @wharghoul Hey I'm not the one who claimed their 70k super car was one of the fastest in the world and bragged about it NISSAN DID!,

  • @whargho Hey I'm not the one who claimed their 70k super car was one of the fastest in the world and bragged about it NISSAN DID!, The chev fans never claimed the corvette was invincible, but the DATSUN/JDM FANS hyped up the GTR as SUPER CAR KILLER boasting the GTR as faster then a porsche,ferrari,zonda & lambos. Let alone making fun of america's iconic true sports car the vette. Now when america's super vette (the real super car slayer) beats the GTR all you guys do is cry and make accuses!

  • @gmracing15

    firstly, i'm not going to bash the new corvette. it's a great sports car, i won't deny that.

    secondly the GT-R IS faster than a lot of cars which are a lot more expensive than it is. it DOES have performance comparable to a lot of supercars. denying this just makes you a retard fanboy.

    also, i still don't know why you're bragging about a 110K chevy beating a 70K nissan. the ZR1 is impressive, sure, but is it really an accomplishment to beat a car that costs nearly half the MSRP?

  • @wharghoul U seem to mis understand what nissan achieved with it's 70k GTR super car is impressive YES! but it's impressive because it's 70K, But the JDM fans and nissan too! make the car more then THAT! making it as one of the end all be all sports cars PERIOD!

  • @wharghoul (part2) But when cars like the lambo gallardo or even better the 110k vette (also argubly one of the all time great bargins of this century) smokes it! (proving the GTR is mortal after all sort-to-speak) those same people refuse those facts and make accuses! (i'm tired of all these slanders, all ca rs are great or shit depending on your point of view) my view all cars are great not just vette's

  • @gmracing15

    Well, I should hope a Lambo can beat the GT-R, as it costs more than two and a half times as much. The ZR-1 is great, but I think the fact that it's even compared to the 70K GT-R speaks volumes for the GT-R.

  • @QwestL0ve

    The focus handles better than the balt.

  • If they put the Evo, why not the Impreza???

  • cause evo`s were are and gonna be imprezas dady`s!!!

  • WTF is acr viper doing in here!! its a modified car.

    might as well put the AMS PERFORMANCE EVO, PORSCHE, AND GTR, IN HERE. S.F.!

  • if a acr viper is a modded car what do you call gtr spec v?! or does the this fact rattle your reality!

  • 1. There might have been 3 american cars.

    2. Mustang + handling = disaster waiting to happen

    3. I <3 my Balt but seriously? Comparing to an audi R8? lol

  • hmmm title is AMERICA'S best handling car.....some of the first cars i saw were bmw audi and porche....last time i checked theyre not american...

  • nice montage!!!

  • the last cars?! WTF

  • sick vid Lambo SV vs ZR1

    =c9wbe2HNrAg

  • tat dodge viper is sexy :)

  • why did they even put a mustang in the test?

  • why did they put a piece of shit Nissan GTR in the test. We all know the Corvette ZR1 smokes it in every aspect. Go to ZR1 vs GTR on youtube. you should be saying why about the Cobalt. that piece of shit

  • lol, the ZR1 has way more HP, and costs more, so I hope it would win. My buddy has a mustang, it handles like a turd in the corners.

  • The viper was ill but i like the MINI the best! lol jk the gtr is my pick

  • Cobalt SS?!? why is it even there... ANd that shelby has a realy bad suspension, so it's it's obviously gonna lose.

  • That Viper is by FAR the most sinister looking of the bunch, and that Audi is downright sexy.

  • The problem is that the euro and jap carfans want us to be in the middle getting criticized and laughed at. they think its impossible to make better progress than them. well u r wrong!! too much unestimating!

  • If it's America's Best Handling Car, why not use all american cars?

  • I own a 2009 Cobalt SS and although I love my car I believe that the spot really should have been reserved at the ZR1. I mean are you serious?! humble cobalt SS TC vs Audi ???thats overkill its not even in the same category. Cobalt SS has a great track, record, granted (hell thats why I buyed the car) But it is insane to comapre it to this other monsters. The only car that I could beat hands down its the mini so I guess am not in the bottom of the food chain

  • disagree... RX-7 can easily be downed by the SS.. It's got way better handling than the original supercharged version, and the no-lift shift helps my minimizing lost boost in between shifts... I think in Car and Driver it was 8th out of 22, beaten by cars with massive amounts more horsepower with the exception of the Lexus IS-F

  • won't be a Japanese to drive S2000 but I do like Viper ACR on the track but on the public roads i go for S2000

  • I think the lotus elise would be way better.

  • exige mate, lot better

  • CHEVY BABY!!!!!

  • don't be ignorant, the cobalt actually handles a lot better than people think. I was surprised myself when i saw its nurburgring time. Forgot what it was though im sure you can look it up

  • Handling doesn't mean fast or power or numbers. Handling means feel and driver to mechanics communication. There are plenty of front wheel drive cars that have excellent handling. In terms handling, I'd rather have a well balanced 150HP FWD car than a poor communicating, sloppy 800HP RWD car. Yes, the M3 does communicate better but that doesn't mean the Cobalt is bad at it. It's not great either but there's by far worse.

  • @kregzdeM3 The SS is handles surprisingly well. My buddy has one with just a tune a downpipe and charge piping, and it corners better at 150 than most cars do at 55. Chevy made a helluva car in the SS. Its nothing like the base Balt.

  • @kregzdeM3 Your English is fucking horrible yet you still have the nerve to call American's "stupid"? I also find it comical that you found twelve other idiots to actually give you a thumbs-up! By the way, you might want to inform your twelve friends that Lotus is a garbage car almost as small as a mini and the motor is made by Toyota. Just ask Jeremy Clarkson, he'll tell ya.............

  • @brin3535 American hater. Love you people :DDD I don't really give a shit about your comment.

  • @kregzdeM3 Then why did you reply? Please, don't answer that question, I'm tired of dealing with lesser life forms.

  • @brin3535 Well. 1. We are talking about the handling, and not about the motors and Lotus can go round corners superd. 2. Jeremy loves Lotus cars. 3. Jeremy's a fat middle aged man, who can't drive very well. 4. What's wrong with a Toyota engine?

  • @kregzdeM3 Actually the lotus was included in their magazine version of the competition. it was just left out of the video bud

  • @kregzdeM3 im guessing you are not an american. if you were, you would understand why.

  • @kregzdeM3 Haters gon hate. :D

  • a cobalt? wtf where's the lotus

  • Supposed to be best handling american car not british.

  • cobalt? :P

  • shut up. i bet thats your dads porsche.

    prick

  • you americans are unbelievable,the zr1 is ok but it would be like me as an english man going on about an austin martin which may i had is a much nicer and more desirable car than a zr1but is just not comparable with other exotic cars such as a lambo or somthing.

    a gtr would handle better around a track than most cars.

    just do us all a favour and stop going on about the zr1 its butt ugly

  • Yeah you're right, it's not comparable to any other exotic. It just embarrasses them anyway.

  • I love the look of the EVO X MR!

  • lol nice chorus

  • you think the 2010 camaro belongs in there?

  • if it had better suspension and drive train work done to it then yes

  • I heard that the very closely related Holden Commodore (Pontiac G8) is on the current list of America's Best Handling Car*, so there could be a chance.

    *source - Top Gear Australia.

  • wheres the zr1? in the head to head it destoryed the gtr

  • On straights and gentle curves only

  • Where the hell is the lotus??

    a cobalt. a mini r u serious

  • the gt500 wasnt made to handle well, they gave it shit suspension because apparently they wanted to make it feel like the old gt500...

  • corvette zr1 fucks this shit up

  • Amen Brother!

  • WHAT! No Corvette. What a mistake since it is the best handling car that is built in America

  • Really? It is? Is that why the heavier, less powerful Viper ACR was so much faster around the Nurburgring?

  • corvette is a nervous car that needs a lot of skill to drive to get the best out of it, take two average drivers put them in a Corvette and a GT-R take em to Laguna Seca, GT-R will win or a lot of the other cars in the comparo.

  • only 3 of the cars were american?

  • And the only one that could have a chance is the Viper ACR

  • WTF does the shelby do there?! It's like nominating Jack Black for best swimsuit.

  • the last person i want the opinion on car handling.. is an american lol

  • Seriously a Cobalt SS hahahahahahahahaa

  • Why would they use the Ford Shelby when the Roushe Mustang is the Best handling Mustang on the market

  • Roush is an aftermarket tuner, it is not an actual ford factory product

  • wtf there was a cobalt and no corvette?

  • Viper ACR beats any expensive crap there is out there.

  • no the corvette zr1 does

  • ACR isnt stock.

  • yes it is. it comes that way

  • Watch on topgear, which is the car with the best handling? Ferrari 550 maranello.

  • World's best handling cars? American cars need not apply.

  • Do we need to mention the "Ring" again?

  • As if they even bothered with the Mustang! XD Mustangs are a joke!

  • mustangs do handle shitty. but the shelby 500 KR isnt no normal mustang. completely dif suspension

  • many of them are NOT american cars!!!!

  • You guys have to remember its not motor trends fault that chevy didnt ante up a vette so when you bash motor trend just turn right back around and look the company who makes the car cause they are the reason your car isnt making the test

  • Hahah look at the EVO how it struggles to be with the GTR and R8

  • I want to see an Alltrac Celica, MKI MR2, and a 2.5 RS in this video. Get that American crap out of there. The Mustang is probably only in this video because Ford most likely dumped a ton of money for this.

  • In terms of handleing any mustang would absoulotley be completley unpredictible they cant even get the drivetrain right and theirs hardley any traction and the mustangs suspension is unaceptable i will point out clearly though that the mustang can not handle ok its no a track car no where near a track car it could even keep up with a civic on a widy road any one of these cars in this handalling test could embaress this poor qaulity prehistoric mustang known as the shelby gt500kr.

  • i don't know y mustang says that mustang can handle. The brakes are terrible, the suspension is ridiculous, and the thing understeers like hell. The shelby and the roush is very good to be honest. especially roush handles beautifully. but the standard mustang... i don't know,handles better than a tractor i think

  • ya ya ya ya there is one good corvette n u r all crying out loud. the ZR1 is a properly great cat but it cannot out handle the GTR or the EVO or even the M3. i'm saying it coz i've been in each of these machines

  • The ZR1 does indeed outhandle the GTR. And the EVO and M3? are you shitting me?

  • no we r not shitting you

  • funny in terms of only new cars the viper ACR beats the ZR1 but just think its 2009 and they just barley beat the stock 2000 cobra R lol, and dont we forget the saleen S7 and the Ford GT......

  • The ZR1 did out handle the GTR...

  • your right it did. but no one will fucking admit it because they are shallow. it beat it in slalom and skidpad. i don't get why everyone jerks off the gtr

  • I would be surprised if it didn't, its got tires 2 times as wide and weights almost nothing. The Gtr is amazing because it cost half the price and has so many disadvantages when compared, like less power, engine 2 times smaller, heavy, bigger, not as wide, Yet it still sits right on the zr1's ass, and only lost like 2.5sec around the Ring. Thats what makes it amazing, and first of all the gtr was made to compete against the 911 turbo, if they wanted to beat the zr1 they would have.

  • 2.5 seconds is a lot, in a drag race every tenth is a car length, so thats 25 car lengths. ZR1 must have a long stretched out ass in your terms.

  • 2.5 second isnt a lot when a lab (nurb) takes about 9 minutes. I hate to agree, the zr1 AND the gtr kick some serious ass. Both are fast and are pure masterpiece of engineering.

  • Damn straight i like MotorTrend and i have a subscription but someone over there lost there fucking mind when they decided to analyze handling and left out the Corvette! not to mention they gave car of the year to the over rated GT-R and didn't even have the ZR1 as a contender; just because the ZR1 would dominate all of the other contenders doesnt mean it shouldnt be one! it means the ZR1 should have been car of the year......wtf MotorTrend!

  • what the fuck? why is chevys car that was tested a cobalt???? is it because if they tested the ZR1 there would be no competition. this is bull shit. test the ZR1!

  • Where is the STI?

    WRX OWNER

  • Why do people lie on the web? It makes me so mad! I hate that I have to catch people in lies.

  • america best handling car is a nissa what ever happen to the corvette zR1

  • ahahahahah a ford mustang as a contender for best handling car in america....HAHAHAHAHHAhAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • great car... but any stock ford or shelby will never be able to corner THAT well XD

  • Stock Shelby cant corner very well, are you fucking kidding me? WOW do some research pal before you make a ignorant comment like that ever again.

  • WTF are you laughing at? I dont know why people thinks Mustangs cant handle. Mustangs can handle way better then most sports cars. And its handling abilities are on par with the Nissan 370Z and the Hyundai Genesis Coupe. So why dont you do some research before you laugh at something faggot.

  • cuz i've driven a mustang and the 370z, completely different cars. 370z is in a different league

  • Whoes Mustang and whoes 370Z?

  • Ford's Mustand and Nissan's 370Z

  • What? I ment whoes Mustang did you drive and whoes 370Z did you drive.

  • I went to the dealership and test drove them

  • Liar! Your 17 years old. Anyone whoes younger then 18 cant test drive cars. Stop lying dude! This is the reason I asked you whoes Mustang and 370Z you drove to catch you in a lie. Hahahaha liar boy! WOW dude.

  • dude if you have a license u can test drive

  • No you cant. You have to be 18 years old.

  • go look at the california rule book

    if you have a license, then you can test drive a car

  • Well I did and it states that adults can test drive. Your 17 years old so that means your a minor which also means your not an adult. Plus lets say you did test drive the 370Z and the Mustang. I highly doubt the Nissan dealer let anyone test drive the 370Z well simply because the 370Z just came out last month and the dealers dont have enough of them except a few for the showrooms.

  • dude i live really close to the biggest Nissan dealer in the US so yea and Mustang has been around forever

    and i did test drive it, i gave them my license and they handed me the keys

    it also depends on the dealer because if they trust you, you can test drive even without a license

  • What difference doesnt it make if the Nissan dealer is close to your house or not. The dealer

  • the dealer what

    all i know is that i test drove both cars and the 370Z was hella better at everything.

  • "Hella better at everything". Dude even if you did test drive both cars I'm pretty dam sure the dealer didnt let you beat the shit out of a car. Sorry man I just dont believe you, everything you said to me sounds like a lie. So is the 370Z interior different from the 350Z's??

  • well you still have the big rev counter in the middle, but there are more things to fiddle with on the center console and that sense of cheapness isn't there anymore.  the 370z looks little like the maxima on the inside

  • maybe from an actual dealership. used car lots have their own rules on test driving and you don't have to be 18