I had no idea that with the automatic trans that it 'falls out of vtec RPM' on up-shifts if you know what i mean.
I have the 5spd and on up-shifts if you rev the motor out to about 7.6 to 7.8 then when you select 2nd gear the RPM is above the vtec engagement point. no wonder the 0-60 for the auto is about 2 seconds slower than the manual! (among other reasons I'm not stupid)
"0-60 for the auto is about 2 seconds slower than the manual"
That's BS man. Both transmissions run the same. If anything the automatic is more consistent with it's acceleration times, whereas the manual will vary.
@casinotriple that's not true, the auto is much slower than the manual. Autos don't have a clutch they've got a Torque Converter which is not as efficient at delivering power to the gearbox as a standard clutch. Also they are heavier. look up the 0-60 times for preludes auto vs manual. Also look up what a torque converter is; Wikipedia is your friend in this case.
as i said before the Auto's shift points are not good for acceleration unless you use the manual selection system.
You don't have to explain that, I know what a clutch and torque converter is. The auto trans is not that much heavier, maybe a few pounds but that's it. Correct, you can use the auto-manual feature for better shift points, and your run times won't fluctuate as with a manual (human error, missing gears etc.) that was my whole point, consistency is key.
@casinotriple AutoCar tested the 5th generation 183 DIN (180hp), automatic Prelude VT-i model. They recorded 7.9 seconds , for 0-60. However, the base models in the US have 200hp, 20 more than the European variety. It can be estimated from this, 0-60 in 7.6 seconds, for the AUTO, in SportShift mode....Not bad at all. With the manual it's about 6.7 seconds
@somenutjob It's not a full 2 seconds slower than a manual. The 60 time for the manual has been recorded at 6.5 seconds (Youtube: MW honda prelude review). I've seen conservative estimates of up to 7.6 seconds, but only from edmunds and consumer review, not organizations made of serious sports car enthusiasts.
The SS Auto was recorded by a swedish magazine, in 7.9 seconds, using SportShift. but there are a couple youtube vids of people clocking in closer to 7, flat, for the SS.
@zadeh79 A more realistic estimate, based off of averages (from data I've seen), from proper launches, would probably be something like: 6.9 for the stick,and 7.8, for the automatic, in SS mode. Numbers like 7.5 for the manual are ridiculously high.
@zadeh79 Actually, it was AutoCar that tested the 183 DIN (180hp), automatic Prelude VT-i model. They recorded 7.9 seconds , for 0-60. However, the base models in the US have 200hp, 20 more than the European variety. It can be estimated from this, 0-60 in 7.6 seconds, for the AUTO, in SportShift mode.
@SystemXpander - I don't use it. Read it somewhere that it has issues or can cause issues with the transmission.... would've wanted a 5speed but it's pretty chill cruising w/an automatic
lmao i hear the vtec kick clearly... dont listen to him man its working..but a cai would make it alot louder definately. i just bought a h22a1 jdm spec auto -_-.. but np cant wait to drive it! vtec is a vtec!
I couldn't even hear VTEC kick, its cause your check engine light is on though fix that and I guarantee you that your lude will scream like a MO'FO!!!! :D
yeah, can't wait to fix that... didn't realize that it's pretty quiet. A cai would bring it out more. But def curious now what kind of difference the EGR valve makes in sound and performance.
@longshot4450 his vtec does engage, i can hear it, and if vtec didnt engage it wouldnt rev to 7000 rpm, the only reason you dont hear it loud is because of the stock intake, if you put a cold air intake on it it will scream, his vtec works, just because of a check engine light does not mean your vtec will not work, i v had my 98 prelude type s since 98
I had no idea that with the automatic trans that it 'falls out of vtec RPM' on up-shifts if you know what i mean.
I have the 5spd and on up-shifts if you rev the motor out to about 7.6 to 7.8 then when you select 2nd gear the RPM is above the vtec engagement point. no wonder the 0-60 for the auto is about 2 seconds slower than the manual! (among other reasons I'm not stupid)
somenutjob 6 months ago
@somenutjob
"0-60 for the auto is about 2 seconds slower than the manual"
That's BS man. Both transmissions run the same. If anything the automatic is more consistent with it's acceleration times, whereas the manual will vary.
casinotriple 6 months ago
@casinotriple that's not true, the auto is much slower than the manual. Autos don't have a clutch they've got a Torque Converter which is not as efficient at delivering power to the gearbox as a standard clutch. Also they are heavier. look up the 0-60 times for preludes auto vs manual. Also look up what a torque converter is; Wikipedia is your friend in this case.
as i said before the Auto's shift points are not good for acceleration unless you use the manual selection system.
somenutjob 6 months ago
@somenutjob
You don't have to explain that, I know what a clutch and torque converter is. The auto trans is not that much heavier, maybe a few pounds but that's it. Correct, you can use the auto-manual feature for better shift points, and your run times won't fluctuate as with a manual (human error, missing gears etc.) that was my whole point, consistency is key.
casinotriple 6 months ago
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@casinotriple AutoCar tested the 5th generation 183 DIN (180hp), automatic Prelude VT-i model. They recorded 7.9 seconds , for 0-60. However, the base models in the US have 200hp, 20 more than the European variety. It can be estimated from this, 0-60 in 7.6 seconds, for the AUTO, in SportShift mode....Not bad at all. With the manual it's about 6.7 seconds
zadeh79 1 month ago
@somenutjob It's not a full 2 seconds slower than a manual. The 60 time for the manual has been recorded at 6.5 seconds (Youtube: MW honda prelude review). I've seen conservative estimates of up to 7.6 seconds, but only from edmunds and consumer review, not organizations made of serious sports car enthusiasts.
The SS Auto was recorded by a swedish magazine, in 7.9 seconds, using SportShift. but there are a couple youtube vids of people clocking in closer to 7, flat, for the SS.
zadeh79 1 month ago
@zadeh79 A more realistic estimate, based off of averages (from data I've seen), from proper launches, would probably be something like: 6.9 for the stick,and 7.8, for the automatic, in SS mode. Numbers like 7.5 for the manual are ridiculously high.
zadeh79 1 month ago
@zadeh79 Actually, it was AutoCar that tested the 183 DIN (180hp), automatic Prelude VT-i model. They recorded 7.9 seconds , for 0-60. However, the base models in the US have 200hp, 20 more than the European variety. It can be estimated from this, 0-60 in 7.6 seconds, for the AUTO, in SportShift mode.
zadeh79 1 month ago
Mines at 5400
mbredl80 8 months ago
Just got my h22a installed in my 95 accord it's automatic but after 5 minutes the check engine lights comes on what can I do to fix,thank peeps
biancanichole1 10 months ago
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Firetao117 1 year ago
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SystemXpander 1 year ago
@SystemXpander - I don't use it. Read it somewhere that it has issues or can cause issues with the transmission.... would've wanted a 5speed but it's pretty chill cruising w/an automatic
randyaguon 1 year ago
I think your vtec hits @ about 3000 something, unless you floored it when you said yu were gonna stomp it. Wasnt sure :(
VideoMeRob 1 year ago
i just got me a 4th gen clean prelude FML cuz i wanna race but its automatic
almostcraze 1 year ago
vetc kick and i hear 4,00 all the way to the end till redline
you guy don't know what you are talking about
s0ubpimpin 1 year ago
@s0ubpimpin vtec on a 5gen lude kicks in at 5200rpm
6yu5 1 year ago
@s0ubpimpin h22 vtec always kicks at 5200
PANT3N3 10 months ago
@s0ubpimpin it kicks in at about 5200. I own one.
YouArentPro 9 months ago
lmao i hear the vtec kick clearly... dont listen to him man its working..but a cai would make it alot louder definately. i just bought a h22a1 jdm spec auto -_-.. but np cant wait to drive it! vtec is a vtec!
Jaran912 2 years ago
I couldn't even hear VTEC kick, its cause your check engine light is on though fix that and I guarantee you that your lude will scream like a MO'FO!!!! :D
longshot4450 2 years ago
yeah, can't wait to fix that... didn't realize that it's pretty quiet. A cai would bring it out more. But def curious now what kind of difference the EGR valve makes in sound and performance.
randyaguon 2 years ago
@longshot4450 his vtec does engage, i can hear it, and if vtec didnt engage it wouldnt rev to 7000 rpm, the only reason you dont hear it loud is because of the stock intake, if you put a cold air intake on it it will scream, his vtec works, just because of a check engine light does not mean your vtec will not work, i v had my 98 prelude type s since 98
PANT3N3 10 months ago