"don't have a stronge feeling of it" in other words does not care because it is a social issue and not relating to making money, and after all money is all John Key is interested in, money in his pocket. Money is the God he worships even at the cost to social well being and structure in the country. Because he views that looking after people and society has no value.
John Key is not to be trusted, this just confirms what a smarmy, conniving, gutless little man he is. The real problem is that most kiwis are either poorly informed or just plain fucken stupid, evident in the fact of JK and nationals poll standings. Where else in the world is a government and PM so popular when the countries clearly in the shit. Wake up NZ, you fucken dumb idiots!
Here he is - the Prime Minister of New Zealand - and he didn't give a hoot about politics at the time of the Springbok tour. Even I knew they were protesting against an evil regime - and I was only 11.
I don't care whether he was for it or against it, just wish he was more straight up. drop the weak, shifty, evasive act Mr Key, it doesn't do you any favours. he would get more respect if he confidently stated his position in a manly way. stand up for something for once, and drop the namby-pamby fence sitting!
This was the left's attempt to turn a rugby tour into a litmus test: of whether one supported or opposed apartheid. It was a gift to them, and they exploited it to the full; anyone who missed out on Vietnam got to demonstrate and rampage against the "pigs", those "racists" on the right, and so on. They had a grand old time. Clark cosied up to China which has an abysmal workers' and women's rights record. The left didn't care; it wasn't politically useful to them. Lefty agitators are narcissists.
Thank God this BANKER wasn't in power during the Iraq War! Don't let him sell our assets!!! It's better to be the boss of your own small business than an employee for a multinational. Once he's set everything up for himself and his buddies he'll be back through the revolving door making huge profits in the private sector. THANK GOD HE WASN'T IN POWER DURING THE IRAQ WAR, KEEP YOUR EYE ON HIM NZ.
sit on the fence much? 'course he remembers ,and speculating id say he was pro tour but didnt have the balls to say it. As a side i cant stand the way he talks . He has really lazy diction .
The PC revisionist history surrounding the tour means that someone like Key can't admit to tacitly supporting the games without being denounced as a 'RACIST REDNECK!!!1'. Imagine the headlines if he admitted he just wanted to see the Rugby?
The majority of New Zealanders at the time believed that sport should be kept separate from politics and just wanted to see the matches.
what you going on about extremedud? white new zealanders get special scholarships too and any way we riped the maori people off learn the history bet you dont even know back in the 18oos maori owned everything they were even exporting goods over seas heace why they needed a flag to dock in other countrys if we didnt rip them off then our goverment wouldnt have to pay a cent back and they wouldnt bother with it Now the nz goverment pays them settlements because our govermant knws theTRUE HISTORY.
@bigrory123 Are you really that stupid? John Key is one of the most useless leaders New Zealand has ever elected. He only gives a shit about his white, rich, upper class mates and doesnt care for everyday New Zealanders.
No he did have an idea of where we stood, but in typical John Key style we checked with party officals before making a stand, as not to isolate the electorate. Come on could you come up with something better yourself? I couldn't afford it, I didn't protest one way or another its populist crap.
Pagan38 is just a gutless little dickhead WTF?? How fucking pretentious it is to protest against a murderously racist regime, yeah? You fucking mouth breathing, knuckle dragging pieces of shit!!!111!!1!1!!!1
@Donny6678 They protested because of apartheid. They were not 'anti-rugby' and weren't trying to fuck it up for everyone as you put it. Dont you understand the significant political message we sent to the racist whites in South Africa, by protesting? The whole tour was ridiculous. The South Africans refused to play against our 'non white' players. It was them that fucked it up for everyone.
Good on him for not joining in on that anti-Springbok liberal hippie protest bullshit. I wish I was alive during the anti-springbok tour riots, I would have beaten some protesters!
John said if he could afford tickets he would of gone to a game, what a good man! Hes got my vote!
He's cutting back on science a great deal, the opposite of what barrack Obama is doing to achieve a similar goal, he is very right wing and I'm sorry that he won. He only won because Helen Clark is a hideous troll
@skiparoundincircles It sure is nostalgic to be replied to after 2 years. Your criticism of me is unjustified as sexism is a sex based prejudice whilst calling Helen Clark a hideous troll is merely an observation although it is true my mother can be a bitch at times. BTW you are sexist for assuming I am a man.
Well hes a Jew for starters...so anyone who says Keys a Nazi is a fool. That is slightly different to the Springbok tour...only a few more people killed...
Why don't they ask whats your views on the Boer War John? I know I am to young but it seems so irrelevant when wanting to know about how hes going to run a country
Too right you're young - are you saying that if he didn't have an opinion on the holocaust, this wouldn't reflect on his abilities and leanings as a politician?
i can't remember either, at least he is honest, instead of coming out with some practised yarn. I would rather have a business person running our country than an institutional politician who has never had a real job or run a business. on ya John. but some tax cuts for business soon please, then I can hire more staff
thanks for the 90 day work bill john.You're sending us down the low wage path again. Sacrificing job security driving up the fear to make us work harder for less . Hence the rich will get richer under national and use that money to advertise more of the same and the poor will be to busy working harder harder for less and will find it too hard advocate for better conditions
The rich got tax cuts under the previous nat govt and the rest got reduced employment conditions health cut backs .Heaps of people were left behind and their doing it again .Next thing they will ban unions and advocates from the work place in order to regain biz confidence all typical nat short term thinking . when they handed over to labour in 99 they left a minimum wage that rose 50 cent in 9 years to $7.50 .Nat's are the lap dogs of the business round table and the federated farmers
HAHA I wish my world was as simple as yours it sounds nice and simple to be ignorant.
Yes! You are correct - all the business people and Nat supporters are (at the core) evil business focused people who want to kill your nation.. we also want to only pay you $2 an hour.. we wanna take away your holidays and we have short turm vision.. thats why YOU the smart ones are earning the big bucks aye! Not like Labour and the socialist agenda!
Support the tour, Support the tour!!! Its such a shame the Apartheid policy is gone. The funny thing is, the blacks actually liked it as well, as they didn't have to mix with the whites.
One of the most polarising events to EVER hit our country.
How often do you see New Zealanders motivated to that kind of public demonstration and then that paramilitary reaction from the State.
A major point in New Zealand history and this twat - a politician, PM of New Zealand! is all "aww shucks guys, I don't remember, wow, let me think, ... nope - all gone, can't remember, oh I know - I didn't have an opinion! yeah thats it - I didn't care either way."
This cracks me up. If this is the best dirt Labour can dig up on Key GOOD! - the bloke is a saint if this is as bad as it gets. Fuck the left wing wankers.
It's not that anyone is "digging dirt" - he was asked his opinion about a MAJOR event in 'recent' New Zealand history and he won't give a straight answer or discuss what he felt at the time.
I'm not pro either faction of NZ politics, however if you're looking at this guy as a PM of N.Z. what do these interviews tell you about frank open and honest disclosure and discussion (on even currently non-critical historical issues) from our head of state?
So whenever an ardent studier and hard-working person such as John rejects the primitive tidings of man in pursuit of more meaningful and important things, they're criticized and ridiculed for it? Honestly. Fuck N.Z. culture. And fuck rugby. No wonder N.Z. has been doing so shit. Oh, and people come up with excuses like "We're just a small country, we can't achieve that much". Do some study on Israeli history.
This tour was not about rugby, it was a turning point in New Zealand history.
This is when alot of New Zealand's stood up against the status quo and a much more powerfull country(South Africa), this was NZ standing up to the world.
We don't get $3 Billion in US military aid each year, israel is a whole different kettle of fish
its racist! What if there was a NZ european descendants rugby team. The Maori would kick up a stink. Bottom line. You need certain blood in your veins to play for the maori rugby team. i.e Its racist.
I agree. It seems that the common misconception is that racism is only when people with dark skin are disadvantaged. The fact that Maori get special scholarships for universitys that european descendants dont qualify for is racist. Racism works both ways, and people tend to forget that.
All the relevant statistics show that Maori are disadvantaged relative to those of purely European ancestry...life expectancy, health, wealth...all lower...
This is just the thing a protesting liberal cunt would appreciate. Bagging someone who doesn't have an opinion on something that really had nothing to do with us. So they were racially selected, there choice yet we protest against taking down dictators like Saddam, I can only pray we can get over such stupid things.
It matters when our future leader cant even remember if he was for or against Apartheid! What the hell does that say about the man? Cant remember he says - fuck me, it was only the biggest issue of its day!
Er, being for or against the Springbok tour and being for or against apartheid are not actually the same thing, and to attempt to draw the conclusion that 'John Key can't remember = RACIST' is just a touch skewered. As much as we'd like to believe it, the '81 tour was *not* actually the defining moment in the South African political/racial scene. Sorry.
Yeah i'm a car man. Love the high performance cars and dabble in mechanics a wee bit. Fast 4s n turbos. BMWs are good... Porsches are good... don't like Mercs too much... have driven an Audi and a Daimler, loved the Daimler. Put low fats on the back and lake pipes on the rails, thing of beauty bro. Can't beat a classic grille and mahogany dash.
haha. Yes im not a big Merc fan either. They are no drivers car! I test drove the E63 and C63 before I got my M5! The E63 was nothing amazing - fast.. but no real feel.. the C63 was a great car! But the M5 is in another world! Im not a big turbo fan .. but the GTR may be an option for Targa!
Mate you need to wise up to Labour! I know National are not a silver bullet but Labour are further from one than the Nats. 9 years have made them arrogant! They need a shack up! Also please stop with the bullshit regarding the rich and the poor - u know it dosnt fly! Seeing as only .2 of the NZ population have big money.. Its a silly point to make. Also Helen Clark is the one who made this quote (New Zealand has no underclass)!
Not a silly point, but very very valid. Only 3% have 90% of the wealth. Why? because the system is geared to upflow capital to the elite. If the nats get in, the lower and underclasses will be treated as scum, less than human, and it's them that create the profits that upflow to the wealthy. Shame on you for adopting that nat attitude. Wise up and give your soul a good clean. Labour has made them at least feel like human beings. And where can I find that quote? reference it.
You're right...the most important issue facing nz today is, what kind of a society do we want to be? We've all experienced what kind of a society came about under national, and what kind of a society we have under Labour. If you think it's ahrd for the poor now, just wait until nats bully-boys get hold of the power to punish all those who kept them out for 9 years. The vulnerable will be toast. Social spending is not part of a market-driven economy - but exploiation and poverty is. Your choice.
Unfortunately, national supports overseas interests. That means Aussie banks. Kiwibank is the competition, and competition is best removed in order to exploit your customers. Kiwibank was set up in the first place because that's exactly what those banks were doing, and with contempt. This is part of selling off state-owned assets. national has to do it, because it is part of their neo-liberal policy. The only way to save Kiwibank is to keep national out. AVOID A NATIONAL DISASTER! SAVE KIWIBANK!
Also what proof do u have that National wish to help Aussie Banks over New Zealand business .. because that sounds pretty ignorant and cynical maybe a little conspirist. haha! John Key is out to get New Zealand? What nonsense is this!
i don't recall helen clarke threatening to push an old man down a flight of concrete stairs. I do recall jerry brownlee doing that though. Labour have striven to return state assets to nzers after the nats sold em off. The threat to sell off kiwibank is proof of wanting to help aussie banks. No conspiracy theories - just remember the past and realise that nothing has changed with nat policy. He's not out to get nz, just to exploit the working class for the benefit of the wealthy.
hey sorry brad 4 my last comments, i withdraw n apologise. no more insults from me, just clean political discussion and the occassional retort. Have a better one mate.
Im sorry - I had been talking with some Labour backing communist (REAL communists) Im talking proud commies! Scary! I got REALLY angry because I cant stand extreeeeeeeeeemists! I personally HATE the tall poppie issues NZ has at the moment! I pay my staff ALOT more than the going rate - Im a great boss! I give away alot of money! I HATE!!!! HATE!! People who try and lable me as a bad guy because I place importance on business and growth.. dosnt mean I dont support family and those who have less!
As you can see, I am a fighter, and I am sorry to say that dealing with your intellect is like shooting fish in a barrel. Could you take me in a fight? The real question is, when will you achieve maturity and stop being a schoolyard bully? This is a discussion forum, and resorting to insults means that you are weak-minded, and have lost the plot. My advice: don't sign in to Youtube when drunk.
And 22% isnt huge Debt.. I donno if u ever did economics at uni? ..I did and its not a major! Haha id trust Mr Key with money over Cullen anyday! Cullen just paid over 300 MILLION more than the tanz rail was worth! I can see Mr Little now laughing his ass off at that smug prick Cullen!
Now. Labour has brought debt to GDP down to 18%, and nat will take it up to 22%, in a time of financial crisis, to serve themselves. To fund that, nat will cut social spending, affecting the infirm, the elderly, students, kids and their families, and the sick. Nothing makes us weaker than poverty.Nothing will take ordinary nzers into poverty quicker than the nats. remember the Hikoi of Hope? Nothing has changed in nat policy since we biffed em out in disgrace.
To serve them selves? Um.. no we need smart spending in New Zealand - the level of waste Helen Clark and Cullen have achieved is shocking. No to fund it - Nats will cut WASTE!! Not front line service like Labour. Labour cut front line in favor of burocrates and Depts NO ONE NEEDS!
Wow, looks like i touched a nerve... I have plenty of friends with money - I come from a business background. My father is a financial consultant, after he was an aeronautical engineer. Don't make assumptions about those you know nothing about, just try and stay with the discussion. I know its a lot to ask...
if people key yur car dude, maybe its cos yur not liked by yur neighbours...
key has shown that he is willing to go the short-term profit route by threatening to put nz in more debt by borrowing for election promises. That is symptomatic of why that company tanked. He was part of the problem, and will be a problem financially for this country.
People dont key my car smart ass. Debt? U are a retard! Labour are the ones that had Debt up past 25% - National will only move it from 20 - 22%. He is correct New Zealand has a growth problem not a Debt problem u twat. U dont understand business - whch is why u assume because he comes from a business back ground he is bad news. Well business pays for all ur socialist scum mates waste buddy. Care for the society? By dumbing us all down and making us weak and Gvt depntant! U are a fool!
Don't be fooled by positive comments on John key sites, all negative comments are disabled on national logo'd pages.
Maybe we shouldn't sign over leadership of our home to a guy whose multi-billion-dollar concern just tanked; who lives in a fifty-million-dollar, out-of-touch-with-the working-people world; who can't come clean about what he will do when he gets into power; who wants to sell off NZ's assets to overseas companies. No way you get my vote, mr key. SAVE KIWIBANK!
my advice to you brad... anger management classes. Obviously community spirit and a caring society are not what you want to see. So I can understand why you support the nats.
I DO care for New Zealand u dont! U wanna make us a nanny state of weak - pc retards who are so dependnt on the Gvt we need them to pick fkn light bulbz! U wanna dumb down NCEA - u wanna crush business and send them over seas.. u wanna tax the shit out of us so we have nothing and again.. become dependant on Gvt hand outs!
Are u really so weak u need Labour running your life? U must be one pethetic little man! Need Clark to come wipe ur ass? Labour want BIG Gvt - whch means control - high tax - means anti tall poppie and anti business and anti growth.. means burocrate blow outs.. means NZ growth GO BACKWARDS not forwards! I means Cullen pays DOUBLE what the trains are worth EX the Debt he pickd up for them and the free rent! So closer to a BILLION!
U are fkd in the head mate! U just have a poll up ur ass! U just hate people with money so claim everyone from National is out to get the rest of us because Johns no a Hobo like u! Why? Should he feel bad about being well off! Fk off! Mayb in ur fked up little world! I bet when u play Soccer or any sport u the kind of fagget that says shit like "We all win!" "No one loses!" Tosser! I cant stand scum like u! WEAK!!! WEAK! Pethetic little man! Hows that for anger managment prick!
So Key was always interested in politics but can't remember where he stood on the 1981 Tour? That makes NO sense. Anyone with ANY political motivation would have had an opinion back then. Which begs the question - is he actually interested in politics or did he have an opinion and doesn't want to share it. I suspect it is the latter - just another example of Key not drawing a line in the sand. Who the hell wants a PM like Key who can't make a stand? I certainly don't.
PS John Key is an obvious truth-obscurer and we can't trust him. The nats have an agenda that has been exposed now, so if we don't vote against them we will get what we deserve 4 not standing up and being counted. Make my day and have your say!
HI Brad, good to see you're giving cogent (somewhat) argument instead of simple abuse 4 a change.
Çommunity help' isn't socialism, it's part of a caring society. But so what socialism? That's not communism. As 4 social engineering, if selling off our assets and punishing the vulnerable isn't 'social engineering', then I don't know what is. SAVE KIWIBANK! Vote aginst elitist social thuggery and privilege for the rich few at the expense of the rest of us!
the "rich" typical ignorant retard! Ur the kind of twat that sees a nice BMW and keys it. Or swears at the owner! "your lucky" or some fkn dumb pethetic, ignorant comment like that.
No, I mean no adequate childcare and stress for families; no adequate health care for those without private health insurance; NO KIWIBANK; loss of the nuclear-free state; and pensions being slashed of people who have worked hard all their lives. the nat philosophy has not changed, and the result of a nat govt will be the same as last time - they will be biffed out with disgust by the people they have screwed over. Cheers nats.
Is this supposed to make John Key look bad?Who cares what he thought about the Springbok tour in his student days.Supporting a rugby tour was different than supporting Apartiad.On the other hand,its well documented that Helen Clark openly supported murderous communist dictatorships in her student days.
bradv8 your brain is full of sawdust!you regularly copy other peoples words from boards on youtube (tall poppy) is one of your favorites! i see you paste abuse to labour supporters on a regular bases,your a total flake.
Well I'm remembering what happened to NZ under Shipley and most of the nats who are still memebers. I'm remmembering jerry brownlee threatening to push an old man down a flight of concrete stairs. I'm remembering the vulnerable in our society, dear reader, and I hope you will too come election day. Don't give them another chance to screw us over. SAVE KIWIBANK!
Thanks big guy. love you too. BTW, I was worried about the nats getting in once...but not any more... hey, how about a political discussion instead of resorting to abuse? could it be because you don't have the brains? bring on the comparisons, nat will lose. and you know it.
like GST! Another great labour invention - stealth tax after stealth tax. thats what labour is all about. The say there is no money to build roads. how much do they make a litre on petrol? 50c isnt it? Its riduculous, running john key commments in a look mean nothing, especailly some irralivant even when i was 6.
ps its interesting how those matches are still a divisive force in NZ even after all those years have passed. Thanks, Muldoon! END ALL APARTHEID NOW. SAVE KIWIBANK!
National is living in la la land if they think the NZ motorist will pay an extra $50 per week to use their toll on roads they will be doing if they get in.
MOTORISTS WONT PAY $50 A WEEK WILL WE! IDIOT! It wouldnt be $5 a pop - do you understand supply and demand? You idiot! First off - how fkn thick are you honestly. Also LABOUR WILL BE DOING TOLLING ALSO!!!!!!! Its the ONLY way to pay for it - either that or taking tax from other areas. Either way we will be paying for it. At least with a toll its user pays. Also YOU DONT HAFT TO USE A TOLL ROAD! Ever use your small brain and think.
I mean ur a twat hippy so have nothing to do all day anyway besides smoke pot (fk if you even have a car).. so u probly dont mind wasting an hour in traffic (spending $10 in petrol - to save $2 - $5 on a toll) - me... Id pay a couple bucks to save 40 mins travel time! $50 a week what an extreeeem example .. and also another thing are you that ignorant to Labours tax blowouts! I mean honestly...
i don't like PPPs but $2 is a hell of a lot better than $10
just raise tax and pay for it that way instead of making it way more fucking expensive and paying a business a profit for doing abso-fucking-lutely nothing
yeah - Labour honestly did look at $10 I was shocked aswell. I herd them admit it when a National MP had a bite back at a smug Labour MP cnt mmbr ther names. It dosnt matter mate - we both know $5 or $10 will fly ever. People simply will not pay that. So its not even an issue. What business? Toll is simply another way to collect tax.. like Labours emissions trading.
I mean your the kinda retard that spends $20 more in petrol and parking driving across town to save $2.50 on a tee shirt arnt you.
Your the kinda fool that didnt even listen to Labour talk about tolling - and more roading tax to pay for the new roads. Labour WILL take the same if not MORE tax for the roads. Your ignorance is shocking. Well.. then not really iv seen many of your foolish socialist like posts.
No, I'm actually a Kiwibank customer. And having a bank that is New Zealand-owned is important to me. As is intelligible and coherent discourse. And I guess that's where you and I part terms.
Also KiwiBank isnt being sold in the first turm and (if) it is going to be an option it will go up for Referendum! (Not like Helen Clark ..she just does what she wants! And to hell with the rest of you! So its going to be sold IF New Zealand want it to be sold! If they do not! It will not!
National said IF Kiwi Bank looks like it is to be sold! They will NOT act untill New Zealanders have ther say via Referendum!
Helen Clark is the one that dosnt give a TOSS what you want!
How typical of a nat voter - to resort to simple abuse and inaccurate figures. It frightens me to think of the nats in office, because that power will be used to punish and empoverish the vulnerable. Wasn't that why the nats were dumped all those years ago? They brought poverty, abuse, and they utterly failed. Remember the Hikoi of Hope? Remember the destruction of our health system? Do we want it again? Remember to register, and vote against these abusive hate-filled morons.
Im remembering 80,000 people a year leaving because they are sick of paying for dole bludging oxygen thieves, Im remembering no smacking kids, Im remembering the commie left wing that thinks 60k is a lot of money. Its time for a change, its time for the hard workers to earn some money, rather than have spent on giving land back to maoris, DPB baby machines and countless other beurocratic wastes labour have inititated.
GOODBYE KIWIBANK. The 'get rid of it later' policy simply means that the nats through their business cronies will MAKE IT FAIL and then dump it. A vote for nat is a vote for a giant crap on us all.
What a fool - yeah... National are out to kill ther own Nation.. fkn idiot. Do u even read stats? Go read Labours ul be crying before u finish crime. Let alone schools and growth.. Jesus we have gone backwards under Labour - nerly 10 years of them and only gone backwards.. Yeah.. great idea. Go vote for your socialists if u want idiot.
The tour wasn't just another rugby game (well, games), it was a major national event. Anyone who was alive at the time will have very strong memories of that time - I certainly do.
these protestors are the same people that supported mugabe to come into power. you kiwis dont understand the complex history of africa. now south africa is going the way of zimbabwe because other countries told us how to run our country. democracy will never work in africa.
I agree...SA need the white people to have some power...Zimbabwe used to be the food bowl of Africa now after all the white farmers are gone they are fucked
Oh and so is there cricket team after the whites left
What an arsehole. Of course he was pro-tour like every other National voting scumbag. But 20 years after doesn't even have the guts to admit for fear of loosing a few votes. A slimy creep.
Check it those tree huggers were getting hit with full cans. I just hope Key has the backbone to put a use-by date on the Waitangi Tribunal and calm some of the hatred that labour has inadvertently created with race based policy.
"don't have a stronge feeling of it" in other words does not care because it is a social issue and not relating to making money, and after all money is all John Key is interested in, money in his pocket. Money is the God he worships even at the cost to social well being and structure in the country. Because he views that looking after people and society has no value.
hippynz 3 months ago 3
John Key is not to be trusted, this just confirms what a smarmy, conniving, gutless little man he is. The real problem is that most kiwis are either poorly informed or just plain fucken stupid, evident in the fact of JK and nationals poll standings. Where else in the world is a government and PM so popular when the countries clearly in the shit. Wake up NZ, you fucken dumb idiots!
torupani 4 months ago 2
NO CLUE AT ALL
MrCameronBrewer 4 months ago
Hahaha! What a lying sack of gutless shit. Good for sucking farmers cock and that's about it.
Kea5 7 months ago
Here he is - the Prime Minister of New Zealand - and he didn't give a hoot about politics at the time of the Springbok tour. Even I knew they were protesting against an evil regime - and I was only 11.
UnearthlySound 7 months ago 4
I don't care whether he was for it or against it, just wish he was more straight up. drop the weak, shifty, evasive act Mr Key, it doesn't do you any favours. he would get more respect if he confidently stated his position in a manly way. stand up for something for once, and drop the namby-pamby fence sitting!
MrLexical 9 months ago
This was the left's attempt to turn a rugby tour into a litmus test: of whether one supported or opposed apartheid. It was a gift to them, and they exploited it to the full; anyone who missed out on Vietnam got to demonstrate and rampage against the "pigs", those "racists" on the right, and so on. They had a grand old time. Clark cosied up to China which has an abysmal workers' and women's rights record. The left didn't care; it wasn't politically useful to them. Lefty agitators are narcissists.
horsie111 9 months ago
Thank God this BANKER wasn't in power during the Iraq War! Don't let him sell our assets!!! It's better to be the boss of your own small business than an employee for a multinational. Once he's set everything up for himself and his buddies he'll be back through the revolving door making huge profits in the private sector. THANK GOD HE WASN'T IN POWER DURING THE IRAQ WAR, KEEP YOUR EYE ON HIM NZ.
Diaramamond 11 months ago
sit on the fence much? 'course he remembers ,and speculating id say he was pro tour but didnt have the balls to say it. As a side i cant stand the way he talks . He has really lazy diction .
lpokiiim 1 year ago
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lpokiiim 1 year ago
"I can't even remember" then he giggled..... Says it all.
Tvdhakla 1 year ago
Dick.
messybluesboy 1 year ago
The PC revisionist history surrounding the tour means that someone like Key can't admit to tacitly supporting the games without being denounced as a 'RACIST REDNECK!!!1'. Imagine the headlines if he admitted he just wanted to see the Rugby?
The majority of New Zealanders at the time believed that sport should be kept separate from politics and just wanted to see the matches.
SD78 1 year ago
what you going on about extremedud? white new zealanders get special scholarships too and any way we riped the maori people off learn the history bet you dont even know back in the 18oos maori owned everything they were even exporting goods over seas heace why they needed a flag to dock in other countrys if we didnt rip them off then our goverment wouldnt have to pay a cent back and they wouldnt bother with it Now the nz goverment pays them settlements because our govermant knws theTRUE HISTORY.
angelena003 1 year ago
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angelena003 1 year ago
LOL ASS RAPED
nzdethklokfan 1 year ago
John key is the man!!
bigrory123 1 year ago
@bigrory123 Are you really that stupid? John Key is one of the most useless leaders New Zealand has ever elected. He only gives a shit about his white, rich, upper class mates and doesnt care for everyday New Zealanders.
skiparoundincircles 5 months ago
No he did have an idea of where we stood, but in typical John Key style we checked with party officals before making a stand, as not to isolate the electorate. Come on could you come up with something better yourself? I couldn't afford it, I didn't protest one way or another its populist crap.
trademestuff 1 year ago
Donny6678 is a collosal faggot LOL and
Pagan38 is just a gutless little dickhead WTF?? How fucking pretentious it is to protest against a murderously racist regime, yeah? You fucking mouth breathing, knuckle dragging pieces of shit!!!111!!1!1!!!1
psydwaindah 2 years ago 2
fuk those stupid hippie protesters. the only time they come out to the public they had to screw everything up and ruin it for everyone
Donny6678 2 years ago
Yeah! Its a real shame they ruined support of the apartheid!!! goddamn hippies! Always being peaceful....
Sazamassive 2 years ago 5
@Sazamassive
I thought the apartheid was a bad thing.
lulu1night4ever 9 months ago
@Donny6678 They protested because of apartheid. They were not 'anti-rugby' and weren't trying to fuck it up for everyone as you put it. Dont you understand the significant political message we sent to the racist whites in South Africa, by protesting? The whole tour was ridiculous. The South Africans refused to play against our 'non white' players. It was them that fucked it up for everyone.
skiparoundincircles 5 months ago
yeah you'll make the AB's with that attitude son, good on ya
johnnyflash66 2 years ago
Good on him for not joining in on that anti-Springbok liberal hippie protest bullshit. I wish I was alive during the anti-springbok tour riots, I would have beaten some protesters!
John said if he could afford tickets he would of gone to a game, what a good man! Hes got my vote!
Pagan38 2 years ago
He's cutting back on science a great deal, the opposite of what barrack Obama is doing to achieve a similar goal, he is very right wing and I'm sorry that he won. He only won because Helen Clark is a hideous troll
ScotRotum 2 years ago
@ScotRotum And if she was absolutely gorgeous, no one would take her seriously anyway. Women are fucked either way you sexist son of a bitch.
skiparoundincircles 5 months ago
@skiparoundincircles It sure is nostalgic to be replied to after 2 years. Your criticism of me is unjustified as sexism is a sex based prejudice whilst calling Helen Clark a hideous troll is merely an observation although it is true my mother can be a bitch at times. BTW you are sexist for assuming I am a man.
ScotRotum 5 months ago
@ScotRotum Atleast Helen Clark led the county well, despite what she looked like.
skiparoundincircles 5 months ago
@ScotRotum
"sexist for assuming I am a man."
With a name like ScotRotum...I think not.
SuperUFB 5 months ago
how could he not remember, it's more likely he was pro tour and is too embarassed to admit
Indianjaine 2 years ago
of course he is
t1268 2 years ago
Well hes a Jew for starters...so anyone who says Keys a Nazi is a fool. That is slightly different to the Springbok tour...only a few more people killed...
sambocricket 2 years ago
Hitler was Jewish.
DRAN4612 2 years ago
To be J
sambocricket 2 years ago
To be Jewish your mother must be of Jewish decent and in Hitlers case she wasn't.
sambocricket 2 years ago
Why don't they ask whats your views on the Boer War John? I know I am to young but it seems so irrelevant when wanting to know about how hes going to run a country
sambocricket 2 years ago
Too right you're young - are you saying that if he didn't have an opinion on the holocaust, this wouldn't reflect on his abilities and leanings as a politician?
aguyfromsheepisland 2 years ago
Logically, anyone who wasn't anti-tour was/is a Nazi. Like Bush said "If you're not with us, you're against us"
faramir44 2 years ago
"Oh I can't even remember"
Bullshit. How could you not remember
He was probably Pro Tour
t1268 3 years ago
Thats it john how gives a s**t it only a national stand and help to change the world.
Do nothing, say nothing and nothing will happen.
nextbay 3 years ago 2
i can't remember either, at least he is honest, instead of coming out with some practised yarn. I would rather have a business person running our country than an institutional politician who has never had a real job or run a business. on ya John. but some tax cuts for business soon please, then I can hire more staff
PumptNZ 3 years ago
thanks for the 90 day work bill john.You're sending us down the low wage path again. Sacrificing job security driving up the fear to make us work harder for less . Hence the rich will get richer under national and use that money to advertise more of the same and the poor will be to busy working harder harder for less and will find it too hard advocate for better conditions
hometuner1 3 years ago
yeah thats why the "rich" got no tax cuts under National.
GarethPNZ 3 years ago
The rich got tax cuts under the previous nat govt and the rest got reduced employment conditions health cut backs .Heaps of people were left behind and their doing it again .Next thing they will ban unions and advocates from the work place in order to regain biz confidence all typical nat short term thinking . when they handed over to labour in 99 they left a minimum wage that rose 50 cent in 9 years to $7.50 .Nat's are the lap dogs of the business round table and the federated farmers
hometuner1 3 years ago
HAHA I wish my world was as simple as yours it sounds nice and simple to be ignorant.
Yes! You are correct - all the business people and Nat supporters are (at the core) evil business focused people who want to kill your nation.. we also want to only pay you $2 an hour.. we wanna take away your holidays and we have short turm vision.. thats why YOU the smart ones are earning the big bucks aye! Not like Labour and the socialist agenda!
Cheers for the laugh!
GarethPNZ 3 years ago
careless but owell shit happens
supremeLeader001 3 years ago
at 1.55 YES, she was just as she said. What the police did that night was horrific.
dairyflat 3 years ago
What an answer!? Anyone believe him????
dairyflat 3 years ago
Great 2-1 series win for NZ, Hewie's penalty sealing it for us at Eden Park. Great series between the two great rivals.
johnnytanini 3 years ago
Support the tour, Support the tour!!! Its such a shame the Apartheid policy is gone. The funny thing is, the blacks actually liked it as well, as they didn't have to mix with the whites.
SouthAuck 3 years ago
If you are actually arrogant enough to believe that you must live under a rock
trademestuff 3 years ago 2
One of the most polarising events to EVER hit our country.
How often do you see New Zealanders motivated to that kind of public demonstration and then that paramilitary reaction from the State.
A major point in New Zealand history and this twat - a politician, PM of New Zealand! is all "aww shucks guys, I don't remember, wow, let me think, ... nope - all gone, can't remember, oh I know - I didn't have an opinion! yeah thats it - I didn't care either way."
... vague non commital wanker.
LemmingHerda 3 years ago 2
Absolutely.
dairyflat 3 years ago 2
Who care greenwoman? Freak. It was 27 years ago. Do everyone a favour and leave the country. Yeah, peaceful marches my arse.
hotheg 3 years ago
This cracks me up. If this is the best dirt Labour can dig up on Key GOOD! - the bloke is a saint if this is as bad as it gets. Fuck the left wing wankers.
georgewtwat 3 years ago
George;
It's not that anyone is "digging dirt" - he was asked his opinion about a MAJOR event in 'recent' New Zealand history and he won't give a straight answer or discuss what he felt at the time.
I'm not pro either faction of NZ politics, however if you're looking at this guy as a PM of N.Z. what do these interviews tell you about frank open and honest disclosure and discussion (on even currently non-critical historical issues) from our head of state?
LemmingHerda 3 years ago
So whenever an ardent studier and hard-working person such as John rejects the primitive tidings of man in pursuit of more meaningful and important things, they're criticized and ridiculed for it? Honestly. Fuck N.Z. culture. And fuck rugby. No wonder N.Z. has been doing so shit. Oh, and people come up with excuses like "We're just a small country, we can't achieve that much". Do some study on Israeli history.
Gardbergian 3 years ago
This tour was not about rugby, it was a turning point in New Zealand history.
This is when alot of New Zealand's stood up against the status quo and a much more powerfull country(South Africa), this was NZ standing up to the world.
We don't get $3 Billion in US military aid each year, israel is a whole different kettle of fish
trademestuff 3 years ago
AND NATIONAL WINS THE ELECTION!!!! JOHN KEY IS THE PM!!!! yipppeeee!!!
spdrca 3 years ago
Springbok Tour of 1981 was something everyone even remembered from social studys in high school.
MotherEarthnz 3 years ago
Well New Zealand has the
Maori Rugby team!!! haha whooops!
BradV8 3 years ago
whats wrong with the new zealand maori rugby team
samplebobsquarepads 3 years ago
Think about it..
Well the fact its racist.. because its race based buddy.
Would you accept a white rugby team?
No!
Why?
Because its racist!
To have anything like that picked and or labeld by race is not on! Its reverse racism gone mad! Aw and im part Maori!
BradV8 3 years ago
fair enough
samplebobsquarepads 3 years ago
good work mate....
georgewtwat 3 years ago
its racist! What if there was a NZ european descendants rugby team. The Maori would kick up a stink. Bottom line. You need certain blood in your veins to play for the maori rugby team. i.e Its racist.
georgewtwat 3 years ago
Europeans aren't a minority though and have never been treated as second class citizens.
If this is the best you can get on the apartheid tour, then the people who opposed it were saints
trademestuff 3 years ago
I agree. It seems that the common misconception is that racism is only when people with dark skin are disadvantaged. The fact that Maori get special scholarships for universitys that european descendants dont qualify for is racist. Racism works both ways, and people tend to forget that.
extremedud 2 years ago 2
@extremedud
Would you swap places with Maori?
All the relevant statistics show that Maori are disadvantaged relative to those of purely European ancestry...life expectancy, health, wealth...all lower...
SuperUFB 5 months ago
I'm sorry, what does the Springbok Tour of 1981 have to do with 2008? 27 years later?!?!
Can we please have something to discuss from this century?
Thanks.
jepollock1 3 years ago 2
jepollock1 - agreed.
intolerance100 3 years ago
Guys, ... exactly what historical point do you want to "lock things off" and ignore history?
Maybe we just blank it and re-write it?
Our country had a pretty violent start, we've been lucky we haven't had more civil wars that most other countries experience in their developement.
eg; We still have alot of people pissed over treaty resolutions even today.
Exactly which of our history do you want to nullify?
"Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it's mistakes forever".
LemmingHerda 3 years ago
Wxactly thats the reason for this video... JOhn Key will make the same mistakes Muldoon did in the end by ignoring it.
trademestuff 3 years ago
@jepollock1
Because it gives us an idea on what John Key stands for.(Nothing!).
trademestuff 1 year ago
This is just the thing a protesting liberal cunt would appreciate. Bagging someone who doesn't have an opinion on something that really had nothing to do with us. So they were racially selected, there choice yet we protest against taking down dictators like Saddam, I can only pray we can get over such stupid things.
annihilate01 3 years ago
" I cant remember..." - John Key
Who the hell forgets where they stood on an issue like that???
Weird
MetalRose001 3 years ago
I suggest most nzers watch The Hollow men interseting party politics
ick49 3 years ago
Key is here to do something about the future of New Zealand, who gives a toss about a springbok tour 27 years ago!
SNWMBL 3 years ago
It matters when our future leader cant even remember if he was for or against Apartheid! What the hell does that say about the man? Cant remember he says - fuck me, it was only the biggest issue of its day!
MetalRose001 3 years ago
Er, being for or against the Springbok tour and being for or against apartheid are not actually the same thing, and to attempt to draw the conclusion that 'John Key can't remember = RACIST' is just a touch skewered. As much as we'd like to believe it, the '81 tour was *not* actually the defining moment in the South African political/racial scene. Sorry.
cminor131 3 years ago
Yesterday's heroes fighting yesterday's battles.
NeillR 3 years ago
Talk about a big crock of nothing
BigAbeNZ 3 years ago
which labour mp assaulted which nat mp? was it as bad bullying as a big man threatening an old, small man?
cleartonal 3 years ago
Yeah i'm a car man. Love the high performance cars and dabble in mechanics a wee bit. Fast 4s n turbos. BMWs are good... Porsches are good... don't like Mercs too much... have driven an Audi and a Daimler, loved the Daimler. Put low fats on the back and lake pipes on the rails, thing of beauty bro. Can't beat a classic grille and mahogany dash.
cleartonal 3 years ago
haha. Yes im not a big Merc fan either. They are no drivers car! I test drove the E63 and C63 before I got my M5! The E63 was nothing amazing - fast.. but no real feel.. the C63 was a great car! But the M5 is in another world! Im not a big turbo fan .. but the GTR may be an option for Targa!
BradV8 3 years ago
507 bhp V10? Beamer huh? No key marks, hopefully..
Yeah Key marks are the last thing you want eh. Ruins the bodywork of cars and countries.
cleartonal 3 years ago
Yip! U a car man mate? No .. no key marks.
BradV8 3 years ago
Mate you need to wise up to Labour! I know National are not a silver bullet but Labour are further from one than the Nats. 9 years have made them arrogant! They need a shack up! Also please stop with the bullshit regarding the rich and the poor - u know it dosnt fly! Seeing as only .2 of the NZ population have big money.. Its a silly point to make. Also Helen Clark is the one who made this quote (New Zealand has no underclass)!
BradV8 3 years ago
Not a silly point, but very very valid. Only 3% have 90% of the wealth. Why? because the system is geared to upflow capital to the elite. If the nats get in, the lower and underclasses will be treated as scum, less than human, and it's them that create the profits that upflow to the wealthy. Shame on you for adopting that nat attitude. Wise up and give your soul a good clean. Labour has made them at least feel like human beings. And where can I find that quote? reference it.
cleartonal 3 years ago
Mate that is so ignorant I dont know wer 2 start! If u really think National are out to hurt the poor I really do feel sorry for you.
Thats one sad, sad little fulse world!
Do ur own checking - Helen Clark quote! This year also - (New Zealand has no underclass) Fact! It was all over the news!
BradV8 3 years ago
read there policies (if you can find them) and look at what they did in the past. putting market rates on state houses doubled child poverty
ricsc543 3 years ago
BTW Brad, good on you for accepting my apology and offering one back. Showed class mate.
cleartonal 3 years ago
You're right...the most important issue facing nz today is, what kind of a society do we want to be? We've all experienced what kind of a society came about under national, and what kind of a society we have under Labour. If you think it's ahrd for the poor now, just wait until nats bully-boys get hold of the power to punish all those who kept them out for 9 years. The vulnerable will be toast. Social spending is not part of a market-driven economy - but exploiation and poverty is. Your choice.
cleartonal 3 years ago
Bully boys? Helen Clark is the biggest bully we have in Power to day.
BradV8 3 years ago
Unfortunately, national supports overseas interests. That means Aussie banks. Kiwibank is the competition, and competition is best removed in order to exploit your customers. Kiwibank was set up in the first place because that's exactly what those banks were doing, and with contempt. This is part of selling off state-owned assets. national has to do it, because it is part of their neo-liberal policy. The only way to save Kiwibank is to keep national out. AVOID A NATIONAL DISASTER! SAVE KIWIBANK!
cleartonal 3 years ago
Labour sell state assets 2 mate!
BradV8 3 years ago
Also what proof do u have that National wish to help Aussie Banks over New Zealand business .. because that sounds pretty ignorant and cynical maybe a little conspirist. haha! John Key is out to get New Zealand? What nonsense is this!
BradV8 3 years ago
i don't recall helen clarke threatening to push an old man down a flight of concrete stairs. I do recall jerry brownlee doing that though. Labour have striven to return state assets to nzers after the nats sold em off. The threat to sell off kiwibank is proof of wanting to help aussie banks. No conspiracy theories - just remember the past and realise that nothing has changed with nat policy. He's not out to get nz, just to exploit the working class for the benefit of the wealthy.
cleartonal 3 years ago
I recall a Labour MP - assaulting a National MP in a bar!
BradV8 3 years ago
hey sorry brad 4 my last comments, i withdraw n apologise. no more insults from me, just clean political discussion and the occassional retort. Have a better one mate.
cleartonal 3 years ago
Im sorry - I had been talking with some Labour backing communist (REAL communists) Im talking proud commies! Scary! I got REALLY angry because I cant stand extreeeeeeeeeemists! I personally HATE the tall poppie issues NZ has at the moment! I pay my staff ALOT more than the going rate - Im a great boss! I give away alot of money! I HATE!!!! HATE!! People who try and lable me as a bad guy because I place importance on business and growth.. dosnt mean I dont support family and those who have less!
BradV8 3 years ago
ps...BradV8? more like brad 2-stroke lol
(get it?)
As you can see, I am a fighter, and I am sorry to say that dealing with your intellect is like shooting fish in a barrel. Could you take me in a fight? The real question is, when will you achieve maturity and stop being a schoolyard bully? This is a discussion forum, and resorting to insults means that you are weak-minded, and have lost the plot. My advice: don't sign in to Youtube when drunk.
cleartonal 3 years ago
2 stroke? haha.
More like 507bhp V10 - my current weapon!
And 22% isnt huge Debt.. I donno if u ever did economics at uni? ..I did and its not a major! Haha id trust Mr Key with money over Cullen anyday! Cullen just paid over 300 MILLION more than the tanz rail was worth! I can see Mr Little now laughing his ass off at that smug prick Cullen!
BradV8 3 years ago
Now. Labour has brought debt to GDP down to 18%, and nat will take it up to 22%, in a time of financial crisis, to serve themselves. To fund that, nat will cut social spending, affecting the infirm, the elderly, students, kids and their families, and the sick. Nothing makes us weaker than poverty.Nothing will take ordinary nzers into poverty quicker than the nats. remember the Hikoi of Hope? Nothing has changed in nat policy since we biffed em out in disgrace.
cleartonal 3 years ago
To serve them selves? Um.. no we need smart spending in New Zealand - the level of waste Helen Clark and Cullen have achieved is shocking. No to fund it - Nats will cut WASTE!! Not front line service like Labour. Labour cut front line in favor of burocrates and Depts NO ONE NEEDS!
BradV8 3 years ago
Wow, looks like i touched a nerve... I have plenty of friends with money - I come from a business background. My father is a financial consultant, after he was an aeronautical engineer. Don't make assumptions about those you know nothing about, just try and stay with the discussion. I know its a lot to ask...
cleartonal 3 years ago
consultant.. those who cant do teach..
BradV8 3 years ago
Isn't the point that John Key 'doesn't have a strong point of view' on anything?
JenyE 3 years ago
if people key yur car dude, maybe its cos yur not liked by yur neighbours...
key has shown that he is willing to go the short-term profit route by threatening to put nz in more debt by borrowing for election promises. That is symptomatic of why that company tanked. He was part of the problem, and will be a problem financially for this country.
Drop kick? And well placed, for a goal.
cleartonal 3 years ago
People dont key my car smart ass. Debt? U are a retard! Labour are the ones that had Debt up past 25% - National will only move it from 20 - 22%. He is correct New Zealand has a growth problem not a Debt problem u twat. U dont understand business - whch is why u assume because he comes from a business back ground he is bad news. Well business pays for all ur socialist scum mates waste buddy. Care for the society? By dumbing us all down and making us weak and Gvt depntant! U are a fool!
BradV8 3 years ago
Don't be fooled by positive comments on John key sites, all negative comments are disabled on national logo'd pages.
Maybe we shouldn't sign over leadership of our home to a guy whose multi-billion-dollar concern just tanked; who lives in a fifty-million-dollar, out-of-touch-with-the working-people world; who can't come clean about what he will do when he gets into power; who wants to sell off NZ's assets to overseas companies. No way you get my vote, mr key. SAVE KIWIBANK!
cleartonal 3 years ago
why would anyone be silly enough to blame John Key for the collapse of a company he worked in ten years ago, its just stupid.
cantygal 3 years ago
No they arnt you drop kick! Labours web pages DONT EVEN ALLOW COMMENTS! Socialist prick.
BradV8 3 years ago
my advice to you brad... anger management classes. Obviously community spirit and a caring society are not what you want to see. So I can understand why you support the nats.
cleartonal 3 years ago
I DO care for New Zealand u dont! U wanna make us a nanny state of weak - pc retards who are so dependnt on the Gvt we need them to pick fkn light bulbz! U wanna dumb down NCEA - u wanna crush business and send them over seas.. u wanna tax the shit out of us so we have nothing and again.. become dependant on Gvt hand outs!
BradV8 3 years ago
Weak arguments...absorbing the appropriate propaganda and then venting it like a true coward.
ziuzou1 3 years ago
Are u really so weak u need Labour running your life? U must be one pethetic little man! Need Clark to come wipe ur ass? Labour want BIG Gvt - whch means control - high tax - means anti tall poppie and anti business and anti growth.. means burocrate blow outs.. means NZ growth GO BACKWARDS not forwards! I means Cullen pays DOUBLE what the trains are worth EX the Debt he pickd up for them and the free rent! So closer to a BILLION!
BradV8 3 years ago
U are fkd in the head mate! U just have a poll up ur ass! U just hate people with money so claim everyone from National is out to get the rest of us because Johns no a Hobo like u! Why? Should he feel bad about being well off! Fk off! Mayb in ur fked up little world! I bet when u play Soccer or any sport u the kind of fagget that says shit like "We all win!" "No one loses!" Tosser! I cant stand scum like u! WEAK!!! WEAK! Pethetic little man! Hows that for anger managment prick!
BradV8 3 years ago
So Key was always interested in politics but can't remember where he stood on the 1981 Tour? That makes NO sense. Anyone with ANY political motivation would have had an opinion back then. Which begs the question - is he actually interested in politics or did he have an opinion and doesn't want to share it. I suspect it is the latter - just another example of Key not drawing a line in the sand. Who the hell wants a PM like Key who can't make a stand? I certainly don't.
TheDancingCookie 3 years ago
PS John Key is an obvious truth-obscurer and we can't trust him. The nats have an agenda that has been exposed now, so if we don't vote against them we will get what we deserve 4 not standing up and being counted. Make my day and have your say!
cleartonal 3 years ago
HI Brad, good to see you're giving cogent (somewhat) argument instead of simple abuse 4 a change.
Çommunity help' isn't socialism, it's part of a caring society. But so what socialism? That's not communism. As 4 social engineering, if selling off our assets and punishing the vulnerable isn't 'social engineering', then I don't know what is. SAVE KIWIBANK! Vote aginst elitist social thuggery and privilege for the rich few at the expense of the rest of us!
cleartonal 3 years ago
the "rich" typical ignorant retard! Ur the kind of twat that sees a nice BMW and keys it. Or swears at the owner! "your lucky" or some fkn dumb pethetic, ignorant comment like that.
BradV8 3 years ago
All class...this angry idiot pointing a finger at imagined misbehaviours.
ziuzou1 3 years ago
No, I mean no adequate childcare and stress for families; no adequate health care for those without private health insurance; NO KIWIBANK; loss of the nuclear-free state; and pensions being slashed of people who have worked hard all their lives. the nat philosophy has not changed, and the result of a nat govt will be the same as last time - they will be biffed out with disgust by the people they have screwed over. Cheers nats.
cleartonal 3 years ago
Labour have the agenda - its called socialism and social engineering!
BradV8 3 years ago
Is this supposed to make John Key look bad?Who cares what he thought about the Springbok tour in his student days.Supporting a rugby tour was different than supporting Apartiad.On the other hand,its well documented that Helen Clark openly supported murderous communist dictatorships in her student days.
holysaturnius 3 years ago
bradv8 your brain is full of sawdust!you regularly copy other peoples words from boards on youtube (tall poppy) is one of your favorites! i see you paste abuse to labour supporters on a regular bases,your a total flake.
MotherEarthnz 3 years ago
To georgewtwat:
Well I'm remembering what happened to NZ under Shipley and most of the nats who are still memebers. I'm remmembering jerry brownlee threatening to push an old man down a flight of concrete stairs. I'm remembering the vulnerable in our society, dear reader, and I hope you will too come election day. Don't give them another chance to screw us over. SAVE KIWIBANK!
cleartonal 3 years ago
'If Kiwi Bank is your Vote Pull you must have one fked up little life.' BradV8
below is my answer to this lovely guy and his thoughtful comment to my criticism of the SALE OF KIWIBANK
cleartonal 3 years ago
Thanks big guy. love you too. BTW, I was worried about the nats getting in once...but not any more... hey, how about a political discussion instead of resorting to abuse? could it be because you don't have the brains? bring on the comparisons, nat will lose. and you know it.
cleartonal 3 years ago 2
Labour have the agenda - its called socialism and social engineering!
BradV8 3 years ago
You have no idea what you are talking about. You spout off catchy and inaccurate phrases to sound like an idiot.
ziuzou1 3 years ago
your 2 thick to notice any tax that isnt dirrect income tax arnt you.
BradV8 3 years ago
like GST! Another great labour invention - stealth tax after stealth tax. thats what labour is all about. The say there is no money to build roads. how much do they make a litre on petrol? 50c isnt it? Its riduculous, running john key commments in a look mean nothing, especailly some irralivant even when i was 6.
georgewtwat 3 years ago
ps its interesting how those matches are still a divisive force in NZ even after all those years have passed. Thanks, Muldoon! END ALL APARTHEID NOW. SAVE KIWIBANK!
cleartonal 3 years ago
National is living in la la land if they think the NZ motorist will pay an extra $50 per week to use their toll on roads they will be doing if they get in.
MotherEarthnz 3 years ago
MOTORISTS WONT PAY $50 A WEEK WILL WE! IDIOT! It wouldnt be $5 a pop - do you understand supply and demand? You idiot! First off - how fkn thick are you honestly. Also LABOUR WILL BE DOING TOLLING ALSO!!!!!!! Its the ONLY way to pay for it - either that or taking tax from other areas. Either way we will be paying for it. At least with a toll its user pays. Also YOU DONT HAFT TO USE A TOLL ROAD! Ever use your small brain and think.
BradV8 3 years ago
I mean ur a twat hippy so have nothing to do all day anyway besides smoke pot (fk if you even have a car).. so u probly dont mind wasting an hour in traffic (spending $10 in petrol - to save $2 - $5 on a toll) - me... Id pay a couple bucks to save 40 mins travel time! $50 a week what an extreeeem example .. and also another thing are you that ignorant to Labours tax blowouts! I mean honestly...
BradV8 3 years ago
oh and bringing back the toll on auckland harbour bridge so that people have no alternative which is free
hftf1 3 years ago
Tolls that is.. and the same tolls national was anyways. Also more tax to pay for it - so not even user pays.
BradV8 3 years ago
that's better.
i don't like PPPs but $2 is a hell of a lot better than $10
just raise tax and pay for it that way instead of making it way more fucking expensive and paying a business a profit for doing abso-fucking-lutely nothing
hftf1 3 years ago
yeah - Labour honestly did look at $10 I was shocked aswell. I herd them admit it when a National MP had a bite back at a smug Labour MP cnt mmbr ther names. It dosnt matter mate - we both know $5 or $10 will fly ever. People simply will not pay that. So its not even an issue. What business? Toll is simply another way to collect tax.. like Labours emissions trading.
BradV8 3 years ago
I mean your the kinda retard that spends $20 more in petrol and parking driving across town to save $2.50 on a tee shirt arnt you.
Your the kinda fool that didnt even listen to Labour talk about tolling - and more roading tax to pay for the new roads. Labour WILL take the same if not MORE tax for the roads. Your ignorance is shocking. Well.. then not really iv seen many of your foolish socialist like posts.
BradV8 3 years ago
$50 a week
hftf1 3 years ago
haha did u know labour are looking at $10.
BradV8 3 years ago
no, they aren't.
hftf1 3 years ago
If Kiwi Bank is your Vote Pull you must have one fked up little life.
BradV8 3 years ago
No, I'm actually a Kiwibank customer. And having a bank that is New Zealand-owned is important to me. As is intelligible and coherent discourse. And I guess that's where you and I part terms.
JenyE 3 years ago
JenyE - im talking about communists! Commies with youtube accounts and others Socialists..
Also Kiwi Bank is hardly the most important issue facin NZ today .. is it.
BradV8 3 years ago
Also KiwiBank isnt being sold in the first turm and (if) it is going to be an option it will go up for Referendum! (Not like Helen Clark ..she just does what she wants! And to hell with the rest of you! So its going to be sold IF New Zealand want it to be sold! If they do not! It will not!
National said IF Kiwi Bank looks like it is to be sold! They will NOT act untill New Zealanders have ther say via Referendum!
Helen Clark is the one that dosnt give a TOSS what you want!
BradV8 3 years ago
How typical of a nat voter - to resort to simple abuse and inaccurate figures. It frightens me to think of the nats in office, because that power will be used to punish and empoverish the vulnerable. Wasn't that why the nats were dumped all those years ago? They brought poverty, abuse, and they utterly failed. Remember the Hikoi of Hope? Remember the destruction of our health system? Do we want it again? Remember to register, and vote against these abusive hate-filled morons.
SAVE KIWIBANK!
cleartonal 3 years ago
Im remembering 80,000 people a year leaving because they are sick of paying for dole bludging oxygen thieves, Im remembering no smacking kids, Im remembering the commie left wing that thinks 60k is a lot of money. Its time for a change, its time for the hard workers to earn some money, rather than have spent on giving land back to maoris, DPB baby machines and countless other beurocratic wastes labour have inititated.
georgewtwat 3 years ago
By "punish and impoverish the vunerable"do you mean making the useless and lazy responsible for themselves?
holysaturnius 3 years ago
GOODBYE KIWIBANK. The 'get rid of it later' policy simply means that the nats through their business cronies will MAKE IT FAIL and then dump it. A vote for nat is a vote for a giant crap on us all.
cleartonal 3 years ago
lol ok. U dont understand politics do u.
What a fool - yeah... National are out to kill ther own Nation.. fkn idiot. Do u even read stats? Go read Labours ul be crying before u finish crime. Let alone schools and growth.. Jesus we have gone backwards under Labour - nerly 10 years of them and only gone backwards.. Yeah.. great idea. Go vote for your socialists if u want idiot.
BradV8 3 years ago
legalize cannabis party, its the way to go
bbfringe 3 years ago
Either way its a piss poor effort to insult a great guy.
BradV8 3 years ago
Excellent video yet again! Keep em coming
avillazon 3 years ago
Is this suppost to be an insult.. ? Because he dosnt remmbr a bloody football match from well over 20 years ago LOL
Typical stupied hippy bitch...greenwomen.. I hope u smoke 2 much weed and forget ur own name.
BradV8 3 years ago
The tour wasn't just another rugby game (well, games), it was a major national event. Anyone who was alive at the time will have very strong memories of that time - I certainly do.
cybogoblin 3 years ago
Thats great. Im really happy for you. Again.... 20 odd years ago. Times change buddy. Its 2008.
BradV8 3 years ago
these protestors are the same people that supported mugabe to come into power. you kiwis dont understand the complex history of africa. now south africa is going the way of zimbabwe because other countries told us how to run our country. democracy will never work in africa.
corry777 3 years ago
I agree...SA need the white people to have some power...Zimbabwe used to be the food bowl of Africa now after all the white farmers are gone they are fucked
Oh and so is there cricket team after the whites left
Its not racist its the truth
sambocricket 2 years ago 2
What an arsehole. Of course he was pro-tour like every other National voting scumbag. But 20 years after doesn't even have the guts to admit for fear of loosing a few votes. A slimy creep.
Plumplechook 3 years ago
Check it those tree huggers were getting hit with full cans. I just hope Key has the backbone to put a use-by date on the Waitangi Tribunal and calm some of the hatred that labour has inadvertently created with race based policy.
torqueingheads 3 years ago
I am going to vote for a man thats for the people at least he has a heart
primal111 3 years ago
Well at least we know the maoris arent getting anymore land back - thanks fuck for that! GO NATIONAL!!
georgewtwat 3 years ago