you're out of your damn mind vegeta is one of the best characters in the series. Vegeta is the only one who actually worked to get to where he is, everyone else just basically had there power handed to them, not to mension the countless times the just got blind lucky. Vegeta could easily overpower any of the other's if he wanted to. He just needs to learn to better manage his statagies in battle. For example if Vegeta had been the one to go actual SS2 he wold have easily defeated cell.
faulconers music is the only music from dbz that i would actually listen to outside of the show. I cant say that for any of the other versions thats for shure. faulconer got the music perfect!
@mafoooo911 fuck you. Vegeta is ten times better than any other character in the series. As for ebing arrogant, it's not arrogance, it is pride in his race and his own abilities. So once again I would like to repeat FUCK YOU.
@ssjn4vegeta its gone a little bit past pride when he cant see how much weaker he is than gohan, goku or any other evil character in any of the series, he is arrogant because he always see's himself as the best even when he is clearly outclassed in everyway simply because he is the son of king vegeta he thinks he should be the strongest and it takes him around 3 series to realise that goku has always been better than him.
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@TheLegendarySuko not nessacerally. DBZ came out in japan first. therefore they made epic jap music. i agree, bruce is a good music maker. but come on, let's give japanese tracks a hand, why not.
@TheLegendarySuko Amen - Don't forget to give props to Bruce's colleagues who also had a big hand in making the music. Mainly M0rganstudios here on YouTube.
@TheLegendarySuko I think it's a matter of culture. Obviously western audiences would prefer the American score because it's more similar to the music they're into, just like most Japanese Dragonball fans prefer the Japanese score because the music is more suited to their culture's tastes, when in fact neither is really "better" than the other. To put one over the other is just another form of cultural ethnocentrism.
@TheLegendarySuko Ok, like...there's no room to even debate on that. DUH Faulconer's music was better!! There is not one scene that he did not make epic with his tracks! Mystic Gohan & SSJ Vegeta themes, omg they enhanced the show so much & others that I dont feel like listing. Japan's music and Kai's...? Don't even get me started -_-
Wow nice i love german dbz music more but i dont am german but it is beter and the episodes are in english so sirieus but in german it is more funny thats why it is a lot better!
Seriously, there is no words for this beautiful work of Faulconer! His music is just... breathtaking. It's just my opinion but even though this is an American version, it sounds the best out of all of them. The other ones that aren't Faulconer hurt the ears.
HOW THE FUCK CAN ANY OF DOG THE AMERICAN VERSION??!! IT'S ALL A MATTER OF WHAT YOU GREW UP ON AND WHICH EVER YOU LIKED!!! BUT DON'T COME ON HERE AND COMMENT ON THE AMERICAN VERSION! BRUCE FAULCONER DID A DAMN GOOD JOB
Damn it people, just enjoy the music!! If you don't like Faulconer, then stick to the original, and vise versa!! It doesn't matter anyway, DBZ rocks in any language!!!!!
Bruce falconer did not write all of the music for the original dub while the dub music was catchy the actual dubbing was crap, I love the dub but i have to admit that much.
The real problem with the argument that this show is watched because of its emotional moments is total bull we all know we watch it to see crap blow up so please don't waste any ones time with that argument.
Even kai got a new sound track that's a testament that the original music wasn't fitting either.
@zetsway5000 actually if the manga never existed, dbz wouldnt get big nor exist at all. so the dub owes it to the manga, more than the manga owing it to the dub. its clear that many dub fans never read the manga anyway cos of how many people saying kid buus the strongest and quoting dub lines to back up their points etc.
You missed the entire point of that comment. The point was dbz didn't get big because of gokus Japanese voice and the Japanese cast. The franchise got big because of the dub not because of the manga. If the manga was never turned into an anime it would've never have gotten big at all in anywhere but japan.
@zetsway5000 the franchise got big because of the manga and international popularity. the dub was produced, i think in the late 90s. 1999. the original manga came out in the mid 80s. and guess what? it was popular as shit before the sub was even made. and yes it got popular because of the anime, but the manga remains the highest selling manga in the WORLD.
Not gonna lie, Faulconer was pretty awful. So bad that he even changed what most of the scenes were supposed to be about. Also, he never knew when to shut the fuck up when there should have been silence.
So you acknowledge that you grew up watching an over simplified dub filled with over the top performances, terrible script rewrites, and cheap unfitting techno music?
There is a reason why Bruce Faulconer won so many awards for his music and why cartoon network hired him. The ocean dub was dumbed down but it was still much better than the Japanese version, but if you prefer cheap 80s porn music for your anime good for you.
Cartoon Network didn't Hire Bruce, genius. Funimation did. And NOTHING is better than the original Japanese version except maybe Kai. You were mislead all your life into thinking DBZ is something that it's just not. It is a Japanese grand epic adventure, therefore it should have music which fits that style. The original has that. Why do you think EVERY OTHER MOTHER FUCKING DUB IN THE ENTIRE WORLD kept the music? Because unlike your cheap synthesizer bullshit, it fits.
Either why he gets paid by them. Herp derp. Enjoy your period woman playing the voice of a grown man. i thought dbz was good because it was. Not because of some stupid marketing ploy. Every other dub didn't keep the original music.
He doesn't get paid by them anymore, lol. He was fired as soon as the series ended, which is why he never did any of the video games or anything else.
You can like it all you want. It is still, BY DEFINITION a bad dub because of how inaccurate and overall unfaithful it is to the original version. There are RULES that must be followed in order to create a good dub.
Your point? He was indirectly paid by them to do the music for the series. Since when is a dub's quality defined by how close it is to the original? There have been dubs that have surpassed their Japanese counterparts by being different. Like cowboy bebop. lol rules? You just went full retard. Trolling or not.
Cowboy Bebop had 90% accurate scripts, as have all anime in which the dubs have surpassed the originals. We didn't need shitty techno rock in Death Note to keep us on the edge of our seats. Since ALWAYS! You can't fucking change something completely just because you think it will sell better.
YES. THEY. DID. IS THAT SO HARD FOR YOU UNDERSTAND? I will give you EVIDENCE if you require it that no other countries in the world changed the original Japanese music because it was already fitting. Japanese score is where all the emotion is. Faulconer just blared away in the background all the fucking time with generic techno rock even when the scenes are supposed to have silence. He sucked ass.
I've wasted enough time arguing opinion with a failed troll. Enjoy your period woman voice actors and horrible 80s porn music. I really don't give two shits if that's what you like.
Well, you've wasted an awful lot of time arguing over something you don't give two shits about. I think it's called getting owned. Seriously, "period woman voice actors?" That isn't even clever, makes no sense. Neither does the porn reference. Dragon Ball Z is a classic epic anime that was made in the fucking 80's, so of course it should have a natural Japanese score. Putting Faulconer in DBZ is like putting Metallica in Star Wars.
Lol "getting owned"? Might want to go lose your virginity before you argue over the internet. It makes plenty of sense because that's what it is. If you're so anal over it I can't help you. Which is why This entire argument is retarded. Maybe you should calm down, stop getting so mad over something so stupid, and then do something productive with your time. This is going to be my last comment to you because i have better things to do, like work out, or do work on my car.
Are you blind or just a fucking retard? I stopped arguing 5 days ago. Maybe you should go back to high school and retake special ed. If you don't want to see arguing over animation don't go on videos about animation.
@MrOversmash yeah and 6 days ago u can clearly see the long page of posts u put up argueing with some random guy, "dont go to vids about animation" who the fuck puts u in power to tell people what they can watch, go back to your homo boyfriend and have fun giving each other herpes. nerdy pickle >:O
@zetsway5000 funi dub has woman actors for gohan and frieza, not to mention bullshit synthesizer video game music instead of emotional and subtle orchestra.
The music on the dub is much better than the Japanese. I never said that woman voice actors were necessarily bad, but the voice actor playing the Japanese for goku is horrid and doesn't fit the character in any way.
@zetsway5000 horrid? doesnt fit the character? then why the hell did toriyama pick her above all others? why is he critically acclaimed in japan as the definitive goku voice? goku is not some tough superhero like the english dub would have you believe. nozawa played goku as he should be played to perfection. and the music in both dubs are good for different reasons. but its a noob thing to say nozawa is a horrid actor and doesnt fit goku.
@BlackWall500 i said he doesnt fit the japanese vision of dragonball. since the dub wanted to make dbz into a cheap kiddy american action cartoon i guess he fits that.
@054martinm Listen to this watch?v=Il_NXz5ynZA . ITs a theme made by bruce faulconer and its absolute shit because of all that 'bullshit synthesizer video game music and techno rock crap'. Ah my god faulconer is so crap, there is no emotion in this song!
-This is what a typical biased reaction would be from someone like you!
@054martinm Dont you think you are being a bit tooooo irrational? If faulconer was so crap, he wouldn't be this famous. Now honestly tell me, was the New earth music theme crap?
@Ghuntu1 hes not famous. outside of dbz, i never hear about him. funimation forgot about him and concentrated on adding either nathan johnson or shansuko kikuche to their dvds. that means he sucks.
@john2earth his music nver has any silence, rarely fits whats going on and is generally bargain bin rock music to appeal to little kids, as was the norm for anime back then.
@054martinm Death of Frieza has a period of silence in it compared to other pieces. Heaven Sent Trunks too. So I wouldn't say it's all generic rock since not all of it is in fact rock. Your understanding of music genres doesn't seem all that extensive in all honesty.
@054martinm I disagree. I found these tracks to go very well with what was going on. They gave the series atmosphere, much like the Japanese Dragon Ball GT soundtrack. Without the soundtrack, GT sucks. With it, it's an amazing series. Same can be said about Bruce Faulconer's Dragon Ball Z soundtracks.
@john2earth no it didnt. they didnt fit what was going on even ONCE. kikuche MADE dbz. its HIS score that is famous and legendary. bruce was fired and forgotten by all except the hardcore nostalgic fanboys who love generic synthiesixer that disgraces the series shoved in their faces like failconer cant even let us watch without noise. theres no single moment of silence anywhere and no sad music where there should be, and no dramatic music when there is heroic music instead.
@054martinm Okay, first off, stop being so fucking condescending towards people who like Faulconer's music. It makes you look like a jackass. Second, you don't like Faulconer's music. That's your opinion which you have every right to have. But at least be respectful to those people who have an opinion that is different from yours. Be respectful to those who do like it, as it's their opinion. You call those people who like Faulconer's music fanboys. Do you have any idea how that makes
(continued) you sound? It makes YOU sound like a KIKUCHE fanboy. The fact that you'll go and harass people who don't like the same music as you is absolutely fucking childish and pointless. I think it's time you grow up and learn to accept that there are people who will like Faulconer while you will dislike him.
@BlazeIgnitus they brought it on themselves. you think i instigated this? no. failconer fanboys came onto kai videos and trolled the kai fans. i struck back an told them failconer doesnt fit toriyamas orignal vision, do you really think he wrote the manga thinking "this would go great w ith some generic garbage american synth rock that completely misses the point of the scene"? like this hack if you want. but z tards need to stop going on kai videos and hating if they want me to stop.
@054martinm Fine. But stop referring to people as "Z tards." Again, all you are doing is damaging your own argument by being so derogatory towards people and their opinions. You make it sound like my taste in music is inferior to yours considering you say I should "like this hack."
@054martinm Do you think he wrote the manga thinking any part of it would go with any genre of music? No, he didn't. He wrote and drew the manga, thinking "this is how I want the story to happen." Also, if you want Z fans to stop trolling Kai fans, don't continue the cycle of hatred and don't post on Z OST vids.
@EndreVanan yes. he did. he hired shunsuko kikuche so he could score the anime and he said he wrote the manga with masako nozawa's voice in mind for goku.
Because she was a part of the original cast. Toriyama is a hack that only made one good anime and was only good because 90% of it was changed in the english dub. DBZ also went to shit after the cell saga.
How dare you insult Toriyama, the creator of this beloved series in which your shitty dub wouldn't even EXIST if he hadn't written it. The original voice actors were hand picked by him. They are how he INTENDS his characters to sound, and all of them tie into their roles with perfection. The actors for the old Funi dub were a bunch of talentless losers with almost no experience whatsoever. They now have 11 years of experience, and it shows with Kai.
The English dub only made it popular in America, because it was marketed to little American kids with ADD who apparently couldn't watch the show unless they had "DRAGON BALL Z!" screamed in their faces the whole time.
@zetsway5000 actually liking something doesnt make it shit. your just biased against something and dont like it when someone disagrees with you. well too fucking bad.
@zetsway5000 sure if you think an excellent actress is bad. like i said, you might not think she fits goku, but shes by no means a bad actress. you cant have seen any anime beyond dbz if you think that.
Yes, i think she doesn't fit goku or the other characters she plays, but no, she wouldn't fit any characters voice because she is not a good voice actor. This is coming from a person that usually prefers Japanese over dub.
The dub cast for cowboy bebop, dub cast for trigun, dub and Japanese cast for outlaw star. I could keep naming good voice actors. She isn’t even a decent voice actor. She is the worst voice actor I’ve ever heard for any anime whether English dub or Japanese.
@zetsway5000 again lol not a decent actor? how then did she voice goku for so damn long and is so well respected in japan for her emotion and range? she had to be doing something right in the eyes of whos job it is to pick good actors.
Goku is supposed to be a naive, innocent manchild. Nozawa's portrayal captures that better than any of his other voices. And I myself prefer his English voice.
you're out of your damn mind vegeta is one of the best characters in the series. Vegeta is the only one who actually worked to get to where he is, everyone else just basically had there power handed to them, not to mension the countless times the just got blind lucky. Vegeta could easily overpower any of the other's if he wanted to. He just needs to learn to better manage his statagies in battle. For example if Vegeta had been the one to go actual SS2 he wold have easily defeated cell.
ssjn4vegeta 3 hours ago
Looks like all 7 cell juniors watched this...
abckookooman 6 days ago
thanks bruce
MJJD33 2 weeks ago
favorite gohan track, and i think the most BAD-ASS!!!
Dragonball2772 3 weeks ago
I sacrificed bruce faulconer for the dragonboxes
princessofDBZ 4 weeks ago
Fuck all your pussy opinions
unclefuckerful 2 months ago
But, oh no, not the lyrics. Only the tune.
whostolemycar50942 2 months ago
What would be so awesome is if Gohans Unleashing theme was actually Hero by skillet instrumental. The intro would totally fit.
whostolemycar50942 2 months ago
This is the best Gohan theme. First heard when the smoke clears following his ascension to SSJ2 for the very first time against Perfect Cell.
john2earth 3 months ago
Gohan suck. Thumb up if you don't agree with that :D
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Losteffect25 4 months ago
0:27 Smoke clears and SSJ2 Gohan emerges...bricks were shat
madbengalsfan85 4 months ago 3
faulconers music is the only music from dbz that i would actually listen to outside of the show. I cant say that for any of the other versions thats for shure. faulconer got the music perfect!
Anonymoustube1 5 months ago 16
@Anonymoustube1 Damn right
MrRichardfam8 3 months ago
I love all of Falcouner's themes. Specially the Cell and Vegeta themes, they're super awesome!!! <3333
AV3RYG1RL 5 months ago 3
I love all of Falcouner's themes. Specially the Cell and Vegeta themes, they're super awesome!!! <3333
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vegeta sucks :L he is arrogant and he is the reason most of the monsters get so powerful, the only time he is ok is in gt
mafoooo911 5 months ago
@mafoooo911 fuck you. Vegeta is ten times better than any other character in the series. As for ebing arrogant, it's not arrogance, it is pride in his race and his own abilities. So once again I would like to repeat FUCK YOU.
ssjn4vegeta 5 months ago 5
@ssjn4vegeta Forget this guy. Clearly he's high on Idiocracy.
xxGothrd 5 months ago
@xxGothrd more like high on retardation
ssjn4vegeta 5 months ago
@ssjn4vegeta they need to add in the part from the show where vegeta saids :
Vegeta: I am sorry gohan i was nothing but a burden to you .
SSj2 Teen Gohan: Vegeta said he was sorry o.o
KaiserVadin 2 months ago
@ssjn4vegeta its gone a little bit past pride when he cant see how much weaker he is than gohan, goku or any other evil character in any of the series, he is arrogant because he always see's himself as the best even when he is clearly outclassed in everyway simply because he is the son of king vegeta he thinks he should be the strongest and it takes him around 3 series to realise that goku has always been better than him.
mafoooo911 23 hours ago
@mafoooo911 What a retarded comment!! It's hilarious to know that there are some really stupid people out there XDDD
xxGothrd 5 months ago
@mafoooo911 vegeta is much better in buu saga.
Ghuntu1 3 months ago
yeh Bruce Faulconer is a god
tomheppy 5 months ago
Faulconer is the first guy to make a soundtrack that is better than the original
breakermagical 6 months ago 13
If krillin ever hits gohan if Gohan hits back The owned count will be OVER 9000!!!!!!!
legoguyforhire 6 months ago
@DaSarge92 It is, it's really just generic J-pop music. EWWWWW
TheLegendarySuko 6 months ago
for those wondering, the ACTUAL name of this song is 'goku and gohan train'
slipknothim13 6 months ago
Gohan was a badass when he was a kid but then turned into a pussy as a teenager and adult
jstone114 7 months ago
@jstone114 what about mirai gohan he was better then adult gohan that who cant fight for shit
darktochiro 6 months ago
@jstone114 Yeah but when he became Mystic he became a little bit better. Still i like him most at the Cell Saga.
SuperVegettoHD 6 months ago
Most best track ever!!! :D
YummyPie532 7 months ago
I hate the fact Kai used that old crappy soundtrack.
Nodfails 7 months ago
How is the Japanese score better? People just say that because it was the orignal score. This is better and you know it.
TroyPassmore 7 months ago 3
Was this played vs. Super Buu? If not major fail.
ManlySlut 7 months ago
@ManlySlut it was played vs. Kid Buu. but against Super Buu, I don't think so.
CantTouchLolipops 7 months ago
ppl sayin japanese suks if it werent 4 them there wouldnt be no dbz
GamerPlaya2000 7 months ago
man ever body is fighting with each other...idoits its a fucking song.
CHAOTICFREAK2551 7 months ago
I just want a list of all the songs.
Suku919 8 months ago
@BballNintendo and just how the fuck is the worst one better than japanese kai?
054martinm 8 months ago
@calmsnowfall dude you got it completely backwards
freshyboii1 8 months ago
@freshyboii1
Nope.
calmsnowfall 8 months ago
@BballNintendo
Precisely.
calmsnowfall 8 months ago
does anyone know if this theme is in the best of dbz soundtrack and what its called?
XxGrizZ 8 months ago
i search every where for this song, this is where gohan became the shit and cell got fuck up XD
KnightWolf901 8 months ago
"I can never forgive you for what you've done!"
hisdarkpersonality94 10 months ago 18
ok fieryimmortal dont have to be such a fucking douche i just said it was goku powering up for koren, why are people now a days assholes on youtube
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Mixalisdaassassin 10 months ago
Bruce Faulconer's music is WAAAAY better than the Japanese track, and ESPECIALLY Kai's.
TheLegendarySuko 10 months ago 129
@TheLegendarySuko not nessacerally. DBZ came out in japan first. therefore they made epic jap music. i agree, bruce is a good music maker. but come on, let's give japanese tracks a hand, why not.
Jordan2000son 8 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko
Nope.
calmsnowfall 8 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko he doesnt know how to make music or even silence.
054martinm 8 months ago
@054martinm yes he does
TheLegendarySuko 8 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko actually i think trunks' japanese version is better, has more of an arcade kinda sound to it like bardocks
MKfan888 7 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko Amen - Don't forget to give props to Bruce's colleagues who also had a big hand in making the music. Mainly M0rganstudios here on YouTube.
General4nubis 7 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko I think it's a matter of culture. Obviously western audiences would prefer the American score because it's more similar to the music they're into, just like most Japanese Dragonball fans prefer the Japanese score because the music is more suited to their culture's tastes, when in fact neither is really "better" than the other. To put one over the other is just another form of cultural ethnocentrism.
Sanguiluna 6 months ago 2
@Sanguiluna This person gets it. :)
xxXHunter18xx 6 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko DAmn right the rest is shit compared to Bruce Faulconer
ssjn4vegeta 5 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko Ok, like...there's no room to even debate on that. DUH Faulconer's music was better!! There is not one scene that he did not make epic with his tracks! Mystic Gohan & SSJ Vegeta themes, omg they enhanced the show so much & others that I dont feel like listing. Japan's music and Kai's...? Don't even get me started -_-
Naioki4 5 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko UUUGGGG *throws up* I FRIGGIN" HATE!!!! DBZ Kai's music!!! >:U
SuperSaiyangirl990 5 months ago
@TheLegendarySuko Yeah kai sucks so hard i wish i couldnt have bought it cause the music is so shitty
Mazokublood 3 months ago in playlist Bruce Faulconer DBZ Music PL 5
@Mazokublood the musics far superior to this crap. it actually has emotion
054martinm 3 months ago
@054martinm are you telling me you enjoy kais music more than dbz?
Mazokublood 2 months ago
Ignore my last comment I accidentally sent
ironbeerrocks 11 months ago
Is it
ironbeerrocks 11 months ago
Everyone has their own opinions. MORAL OF THE STORY.
Stickygod 11 months ago
Wow nice i love german dbz music more but i dont am german but it is beter and the episodes are in english so sirieus but in german it is more funny thats why it is a lot better!
blendon8 11 months ago
i thought this was goku's song when he was powering up for koren
CHAOTICFREAK2551 11 months ago
@CHAOTICFREAK2551 i dont think its from gohan either... or IS IT!!!!
fieryimmortal 10 months ago
@fieryimmortal i just said it was Goku's theme when he was powering up for Koren, GOD! why are people such douchefags on Youtube now a days!!!
CHAOTICFREAK2551 10 months ago
@CHAOTICFREAK2551 im pretty sure he was making reference to ironbeerrocks's comment...
sailorman4589 10 months ago
vegeta theme is the BEST ;]
SuperrVegetaa 11 months ago 2
Lol its just so funny how Bruce does this awesome work and then ends it with some weird random 1:21
Gevito236 1 year ago
Seriously, there is no words for this beautiful work of Faulconer! His music is just... breathtaking. It's just my opinion but even though this is an American version, it sounds the best out of all of them. The other ones that aren't Faulconer hurt the ears.
MagicTomb1 1 year ago
TELL THEM TO STOP IT!!!
comeondown 1 year ago
HOW THE FUCK CAN ANY OF DOG THE AMERICAN VERSION??!! IT'S ALL A MATTER OF WHAT YOU GREW UP ON AND WHICH EVER YOU LIKED!!! BUT DON'T COME ON HERE AND COMMENT ON THE AMERICAN VERSION! BRUCE FAULCONER DID A DAMN GOOD JOB
NaQuia0910 1 year ago
Note to everyone- never eat the slice of pizza that Gohan was saving for last :P
emmeg516 1 year ago 4
Damn it people, just enjoy the music!! If you don't like Faulconer, then stick to the original, and vise versa!! It doesn't matter anyway, DBZ rocks in any language!!!!!
But Vegeta rocks the most XDDD
torysama 1 year ago 104
@torysama German style.
"OH SHIT"!
mooglefourteena 8 months ago
@torysama i agree with u 100 percent except my fav is piccolo xd lol good comment though
tristar1215 5 months ago
@torysama I agree. Vegeta's Amazing <3 and well DBZ in general
sidoni13 5 months ago
@torysama i couldnt agree more with everything you just said XD
TheMightyOzaru 4 months ago
@TheMightyOzaru Yay!! :3
torysama 4 months ago
Bruce falconer did not write all of the music for the original dub while the dub music was catchy the actual dubbing was crap, I love the dub but i have to admit that much.
The real problem with the argument that this show is watched because of its emotional moments is total bull we all know we watch it to see crap blow up so please don't waste any ones time with that argument.
Even kai got a new sound track that's a testament that the original music wasn't fitting either.
staffcarguy 1 year ago
BRUCE FAULCONER, THE ORIGINAL SUPER SAIYAN
Shoj496 1 year ago
teen gohan> chuck norris
kingaaron777 1 year ago
Bruce Faulconer U R A Legend!
DBKaiSucks 1 year ago
I can never forgive you for what you've done.
Kingzylo 1 year ago
thats it gohan your doing it,just find that sense of loss.its not a want its a need
skettelho 1 year ago
@054martinm
Liking shit does not make it something other than shit.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 Well We Can Both Agree... The Japanese Dub Fxcking Sucked.. -.-
YoungHarlem110352 1 year ago
@YoungHarlem110352 and the english dub wouldnt even exist without japanese
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
That's a really stupid thing to say. If the English dub never existed dragon ball and dragon ball z would have never gotten as big as they are.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 actually if the manga never existed, dbz wouldnt get big nor exist at all. so the dub owes it to the manga, more than the manga owing it to the dub. its clear that many dub fans never read the manga anyway cos of how many people saying kid buus the strongest and quoting dub lines to back up their points etc.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
You missed the entire point of that comment. The point was dbz didn't get big because of gokus Japanese voice and the Japanese cast. The franchise got big because of the dub not because of the manga. If the manga was never turned into an anime it would've never have gotten big at all in anywhere but japan.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 the franchise got big because of the manga and international popularity. the dub was produced, i think in the late 90s. 1999. the original manga came out in the mid 80s. and guess what? it was popular as shit before the sub was even made. and yes it got popular because of the anime, but the manga remains the highest selling manga in the WORLD.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
It was popular only in japan before the dub came out in the US in the 90s. I think the dub came out in 96.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 the dub was in 99. before that, dbz WAS popular around the world. do some research
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
The first Dragon ball ocean dub came out in 1995. I think it's you who needs to do some research.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 dragon ball? well thats not dbz is it? and i was talking about funimation dub which is what REALLY made it popular in america.
054martinm 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
Not gonna lie, Faulconer was pretty awful. So bad that he even changed what most of the scenes were supposed to be about. Also, he never knew when to shut the fuck up when there should have been silence.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
If you want to troll might want to take it off your profile picture. 0/10
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
Trolling or not, I'm still right. You grew up with a terrible, over simplified dub. Get over it.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
Still 0/10. You're trying too hard.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
So you acknowledge that you grew up watching an over simplified dub filled with over the top performances, terrible script rewrites, and cheap unfitting techno music?
Come on man, I'm always up for an argument. ;)
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
There is a reason why Bruce Faulconer won so many awards for his music and why cartoon network hired him. The ocean dub was dumbed down but it was still much better than the Japanese version, but if you prefer cheap 80s porn music for your anime good for you.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
Cartoon Network didn't Hire Bruce, genius. Funimation did. And NOTHING is better than the original Japanese version except maybe Kai. You were mislead all your life into thinking DBZ is something that it's just not. It is a Japanese grand epic adventure, therefore it should have music which fits that style. The original has that. Why do you think EVERY OTHER MOTHER FUCKING DUB IN THE ENTIRE WORLD kept the music? Because unlike your cheap synthesizer bullshit, it fits.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
Either why he gets paid by them. Herp derp. Enjoy your period woman playing the voice of a grown man. i thought dbz was good because it was. Not because of some stupid marketing ploy. Every other dub didn't keep the original music.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
He doesn't get paid by them anymore, lol. He was fired as soon as the series ended, which is why he never did any of the video games or anything else.
You can like it all you want. It is still, BY DEFINITION a bad dub because of how inaccurate and overall unfaithful it is to the original version. There are RULES that must be followed in order to create a good dub.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
Your point? He was indirectly paid by them to do the music for the series. Since when is a dub's quality defined by how close it is to the original? There have been dubs that have surpassed their Japanese counterparts by being different. Like cowboy bebop. lol rules? You just went full retard. Trolling or not.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
Cowboy Bebop had 90% accurate scripts, as have all anime in which the dubs have surpassed the originals. We didn't need shitty techno rock in Death Note to keep us on the edge of our seats. Since ALWAYS! You can't fucking change something completely just because you think it will sell better.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
And yes, every single other dub of Dragon Ball Z in the world kept the original music. Hard to believe, huh?
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
No, they didn't.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
YES. THEY. DID. IS THAT SO HARD FOR YOU UNDERSTAND? I will give you EVIDENCE if you require it that no other countries in the world changed the original Japanese music because it was already fitting. Japanese score is where all the emotion is. Faulconer just blared away in the background all the fucking time with generic techno rock even when the scenes are supposed to have silence. He sucked ass.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
I've wasted enough time arguing opinion with a failed troll. Enjoy your period woman voice actors and horrible 80s porn music. I really don't give two shits if that's what you like.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
Well, you've wasted an awful lot of time arguing over something you don't give two shits about. I think it's called getting owned. Seriously, "period woman voice actors?" That isn't even clever, makes no sense. Neither does the porn reference. Dragon Ball Z is a classic epic anime that was made in the fucking 80's, so of course it should have a natural Japanese score. Putting Faulconer in DBZ is like putting Metallica in Star Wars.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
Lol "getting owned"? Might want to go lose your virginity before you argue over the internet. It makes plenty of sense because that's what it is. If you're so anal over it I can't help you. Which is why This entire argument is retarded. Maybe you should calm down, stop getting so mad over something so stupid, and then do something productive with your time. This is going to be my last comment to you because i have better things to do, like work out, or do work on my car.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 LOL nerdy pickle stop argueing about a friggin cartoon
MrOversmash 1 year ago
@MrOversmash
Are you blind or just a fucking retard? I stopped arguing 5 days ago. Maybe you should go back to high school and retake special ed. If you don't want to see arguing over animation don't go on videos about animation.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@MrOversmash yeah and 6 days ago u can clearly see the long page of posts u put up argueing with some random guy, "dont go to vids about animation" who the fuck puts u in power to tell people what they can watch, go back to your homo boyfriend and have fun giving each other herpes. nerdy pickle >:O
MrOversmash 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 funi dub has woman actors for gohan and frieza, not to mention bullshit synthesizer video game music instead of emotional and subtle orchestra.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
The music on the dub is much better than the Japanese. I never said that woman voice actors were necessarily bad, but the voice actor playing the Japanese for goku is horrid and doesn't fit the character in any way.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 horrid? doesnt fit the character? then why the hell did toriyama pick her above all others? why is he critically acclaimed in japan as the definitive goku voice? goku is not some tough superhero like the english dub would have you believe. nozawa played goku as he should be played to perfection. and the music in both dubs are good for different reasons. but its a noob thing to say nozawa is a horrid actor and doesnt fit goku.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
because toriyama is a one trick pony.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@054martinm Dude How the Fuck Can u not like Bruce thats like saying u hate Life!!!
BlackWall500 1 year ago
@BlackWall500 i said he doesnt fit the japanese vision of dragonball. since the dub wanted to make dbz into a cheap kiddy american action cartoon i guess he fits that.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm If ur saying that then why do u have Bruce Faulconer Music in ur Favorites?
BlackWall500 1 year ago
@BlackWall500 because its decent on its own and for the american dub, but not for kai or japanese dub. understand?
054martinm 1 year ago 12
@054martinm Listen to this watch?v=Il_NXz5ynZA . ITs a theme made by bruce faulconer and its absolute shit because of all that 'bullshit synthesizer video game music and techno rock crap'. Ah my god faulconer is so crap, there is no emotion in this song!
-This is what a typical biased reaction would be from someone like you!
Ghuntu1 3 months ago
@Ghuntu1 of course im biased. failconer sucks and i need people to realise thats what i believe.
054martinm 3 months ago
@054martinm Dont you think you are being a bit tooooo irrational? If faulconer was so crap, he wouldn't be this famous. Now honestly tell me, was the New earth music theme crap?
Ghuntu1 3 months ago
@Ghuntu1 hes not famous. outside of dbz, i never hear about him. funimation forgot about him and concentrated on adding either nathan johnson or shansuko kikuche to their dvds. that means he sucks.
054martinm 3 months ago
@054martinm Yeah, no. No it doesn't. Sorry, your logic is flawed. Have your opinion, believe what you want, but don't spout it like absolute truth.
SonofSethoitae 3 months ago
@054martinm Don't see how anyone can believe Bruce Faulconer sucks. I honestly believe you're just trolling.
john2earth 3 months ago
@john2earth his music nver has any silence, rarely fits whats going on and is generally bargain bin rock music to appeal to little kids, as was the norm for anime back then.
054martinm 3 months ago
@054martinm Death of Frieza has a period of silence in it compared to other pieces. Heaven Sent Trunks too. So I wouldn't say it's all generic rock since not all of it is in fact rock. Your understanding of music genres doesn't seem all that extensive in all honesty.
BlazeIgnitus 2 months ago
@BlazeIgnitus not enough. most of the series is filled with noise. its needless.
054martinm 2 months ago
@054martinm I disagree. I found these tracks to go very well with what was going on. They gave the series atmosphere, much like the Japanese Dragon Ball GT soundtrack. Without the soundtrack, GT sucks. With it, it's an amazing series. Same can be said about Bruce Faulconer's Dragon Ball Z soundtracks.
john2earth 2 months ago
@john2earth no it didnt. they didnt fit what was going on even ONCE. kikuche MADE dbz. its HIS score that is famous and legendary. bruce was fired and forgotten by all except the hardcore nostalgic fanboys who love generic synthiesixer that disgraces the series shoved in their faces like failconer cant even let us watch without noise. theres no single moment of silence anywhere and no sad music where there should be, and no dramatic music when there is heroic music instead.
054martinm 2 months ago
@054martinm Okay, first off, stop being so fucking condescending towards people who like Faulconer's music. It makes you look like a jackass. Second, you don't like Faulconer's music. That's your opinion which you have every right to have. But at least be respectful to those people who have an opinion that is different from yours. Be respectful to those who do like it, as it's their opinion. You call those people who like Faulconer's music fanboys. Do you have any idea how that makes
BlazeIgnitus 2 months ago
(continued) you sound? It makes YOU sound like a KIKUCHE fanboy. The fact that you'll go and harass people who don't like the same music as you is absolutely fucking childish and pointless. I think it's time you grow up and learn to accept that there are people who will like Faulconer while you will dislike him.
BlazeIgnitus 2 months ago
@BlazeIgnitus they brought it on themselves. you think i instigated this? no. failconer fanboys came onto kai videos and trolled the kai fans. i struck back an told them failconer doesnt fit toriyamas orignal vision, do you really think he wrote the manga thinking "this would go great w ith some generic garbage american synth rock that completely misses the point of the scene"? like this hack if you want. but z tards need to stop going on kai videos and hating if they want me to stop.
054martinm 2 months ago
@054martinm Fine. But stop referring to people as "Z tards." Again, all you are doing is damaging your own argument by being so derogatory towards people and their opinions. You make it sound like my taste in music is inferior to yours considering you say I should "like this hack."
BlazeIgnitus 2 months ago
@054martinm Do you think he wrote the manga thinking any part of it would go with any genre of music? No, he didn't. He wrote and drew the manga, thinking "this is how I want the story to happen." Also, if you want Z fans to stop trolling Kai fans, don't continue the cycle of hatred and don't post on Z OST vids.
EndreVanan 2 months ago
@EndreVanan yes. he did. he hired shunsuko kikuche so he could score the anime and he said he wrote the manga with masako nozawa's voice in mind for goku.
054martinm 2 months ago
@054martinm Source?
EndreVanan 2 months ago
@EndreVanan go to kanzentai and click on interviews
054martinm 2 months ago
@zetsway5000
Also, if Nozawa is so bad as Goku then why have they kept her in the role for 20 years? You do know that Toriyama himself chose her, right? haha.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
Because she was a part of the original cast. Toriyama is a hack that only made one good anime and was only good because 90% of it was changed in the english dub. DBZ also went to shit after the cell saga.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
How dare you insult Toriyama, the creator of this beloved series in which your shitty dub wouldn't even EXIST if he hadn't written it. The original voice actors were hand picked by him. They are how he INTENDS his characters to sound, and all of them tie into their roles with perfection. The actors for the old Funi dub were a bunch of talentless losers with almost no experience whatsoever. They now have 11 years of experience, and it shows with Kai.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
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calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
Is that why the english dub made the series as popular as it is outside of japan? Trololol.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
The English dub only made it popular in America, because it was marketed to little American kids with ADD who apparently couldn't watch the show unless they had "DRAGON BALL Z!" screamed in their faces the whole time.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
@calmsnowfall
It didn't just make it popular in the US. it made it popular in the Uk, Canada, Australia, new Zealand, etc.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@054martinm well if there was no english dub, dbz wont be this famous right.
Ghuntu1 3 months ago
@Ghuntu1 it was worldwide famous before the english dub ever came out. the manga is the highest selling in history besides one piece.
054martinm 3 months ago
@zetsway5000 actually liking something doesnt make it shit. your just biased against something and dont like it when someone disagrees with you. well too fucking bad.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
Believe what you want. Goku in the Japanese version has the worst voice actor ever cast for an anime.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 sure if you think an excellent actress is bad. like i said, you might not think she fits goku, but shes by no means a bad actress. you cant have seen any anime beyond dbz if you think that.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
Yes, i think she doesn't fit goku or the other characters she plays, but no, she wouldn't fit any characters voice because she is not a good voice actor. This is coming from a person that usually prefers Japanese over dub.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 not a good voice actor? oh my jesus christ. learn what good acting is please.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
The dub cast for cowboy bebop, dub cast for trigun, dub and Japanese cast for outlaw star. I could keep naming good voice actors. She isn’t even a decent voice actor. She is the worst voice actor I’ve ever heard for any anime whether English dub or Japanese.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 again lol not a decent actor? how then did she voice goku for so damn long and is so well respected in japan for her emotion and range? she had to be doing something right in the eyes of whos job it is to pick good actors.
054martinm 1 year ago
@054martinm
Because she played him as a child and people were used to the voice. Obviously not since I've never met a single person that enjoys her voice.
zetsway5000 1 year ago
@zetsway5000 go on the daizex website. bunch of nozawa fanboys
054martinm 1 year ago
@zetsway5000
Goku is supposed to be a naive, innocent manchild. Nozawa's portrayal captures that better than any of his other voices. And I myself prefer his English voice.
calmsnowfall 1 year ago
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dannyshrew3 1 year ago
By the way thats why i really enjoyed the Majin Saga music,cause its more subtle than usual Faulconer stuff
lateralsx7 1 year ago