@Lufios you cant put any desktop graphics card in a laptop. they make special mobile versions to fit in there, but for reviews on those, you need to visit notebookcheck(dot)com
i fuckin hate ATI there cards are horrible....i love my new 9800GT 1 gig.....good customer support too...thumbs up to nvidea....never buying ATI again....
yes but is the power supply a good PSU. I mean they make 900 watt PSU's that cost 30 bucks that really out put like 300 watts under stress. I just bought a new Corsair TX 750 Watt PSU for $120 bucks after rebates, originally it was $184.99. Usually you want to look for the Efficiency rating of over 80% along with SLI or Cross Fire qualified and a strong 12V rail thats high in amperage. Mine actually distributed through a SINGLE 60 Amp 12V rail which increases stability 10 fold over having 3 or 4
3870 is good where not all rich idiots ok we can only aford what we can afford bottom line saved up money to get a 3870 or 9800 and ther not dated cards ok they still kick ass and the pirce for them are just rigth
I think this one costs only 200$ now.that's what I toke in the PC I bought last spring.Great deal dude.Never had problem with it.The drivers are way much better then in the time I was using a 9800 PRO.
Now I'm wondering if I should get a second ATI 3870 X2 for more power.Would it worth?
Thanks a lot for ur advice.80% more is interesting but frankly for now I don't see what I'm not able to do with this for a gamer like me.
But I didn't know that I wouldn't be able to use a second monitor which I do.Just the VGA cable costed me 50$,In this case I wont buy another.thanks a lot for ur informations.
haha, first of all i was just just kidding to show how good the cooler looks, secondly, it seems that ur the noob, the spacing of the GPU's on the 3870X2 and the 4870X2 are a few mm's appart, so it using it on a 4870X2 wouldnt be recommended...
I have a question... I bought this card and when finishing installing it and run DXDIAG i got only 512 mb memory for video... Did i do something wrong or this is just normal? Do i need to tweak something? And how would i know if Crossfire is working??? Please i'm a newbie! By the way my specs are Gigabyte x48-dq6, Intel Core 2 Quad overclocked by 2.8Ghz, 2x2Gb Kingston DDR2 Ram...Tnx
I have a question... I bought this card and when finishing installing it and run DXDIAG i got only 512 mb memory for video... Did i do something wrong or this is just normal? Do i need to tweak something? And how would i know if Crossfire is working??? Please i'm a newbie! By the way my specs are Gigabyte x48-dq6, Intel Core 2 Quad overclocked by 2.8Ghz, 2x2Gb Kingston DDR2 Ram...Tnx
Logan I wanna tell you that there is some kind of dumm ass doing video reviews instead of you!!!!!! Go punch him in a face with your alegator fist and do some videos.
The reason they don't say the price in the videos is because prices are always subject to change. It's $399.99 currently at TigerDirect. If you plan on using CrossFire, as someone else said, it would be better to get two 512MB HD4850's for about 2-cents cheaper. Though if you really want this to go for the big 4GB CrossFireX deal, I'd say get it(well, I'm pretty sure you can put 4 in, but don't hold me to it), or perhaps wait until ATI makes a 1GB HD 4870(maybe, too soon to tell).
well... ive found it at $160.00, so i suppose thats an awesome deal lol, havent got it yet, not goin to until i upgrade my motherboard, but yea im gettin that deal! lol
i know that it is high... but since im fairly new to the hardware stuff, can anyone tell me what do those ddr and gddr thingies mean? and do u need a new motherboard if u want to upgrade from 4 to 5?
all the differences are is speed and price. the difference between gddr and ddr is that gddr is graphics ddr. DDR5 DOES NOT EXIST. dd3 and ddr4 are roughly the same speeds but different power usages and prices. ddr is a kind of ram and it is not on the mobo. so stick with 3 for now if you arent donald trump.
no.. recent grpahics cards are pci x16 slots..which is what the 790i has and the other recent boards so u can put any graphics cards in there as long as they are pci x 16 slot. But the memory slots on the 790i is ddr3 ..whereas the older mohterboads is ddr2..but u cant put any ddr2 or ddr1 on the 790i, only ddr3 will work...but this is only memory
How long is this card? The retail card with its retail cooler is about 13" long, but what about this card? It looks like it's about the size of an 8800 GT...
there is a bunch of reviews for this summers ati hd 4 series, some are arguing that they are fake reviews and benches. The reviews r saying the hd 4870 is faster then the 9800 gx2.
It's not, dont be stupid, 4870 is a mid range card and is not intended to take on the 9800GX2. It probably wont even be as fast as nvidias new card that releases like two days later (or before). ATI's whole strategy is price, the 4870 is supposedly going to be $200 and its about 25% quicker than a 9800GTX. The 4870X2 that comes out in august is ATI's high end card. But like I said the 4870 is not supposed to take on the GX2, if it does then there will be riots to get one :P
the thing is that 3870 and 3870 x2 is made to have better performance with 790 chipset 20 to 26 % more performance, they benchmarck the cards in motherboards for intel but run much better in spider plataform.
They are leaving out performance, but they have better video quality and CrossfireX.
I had 8800GT and i had ATI 3870 and i see better textures with 3870. As an example is smog and explosions in games. You will see much more of it in games with ATI cards.
Yes and no. In terms of performance the Gx2 is a stronger card, but in terms of cost, 3870x2 owns. Check newegg, the price of a Gx2 is about $550 while the 3870x2 is about $350. You could almost buy two 3870x2s for the price of one Gx2.
Don't forget, that Ati was the first to create dual GPU cards starting with the Rage Series a decade back. Now nvidia is copying Ati's dual GPU structure and crossfire hybrid structure.
gay ??? your ignorent iam gay u dont even no me u fool hes not a ati fanboy he has a 790i and 9800gx2 oh and ur a pussy the comment wasnt for u in the first place so mind ur fuckin bisniss
who ever spammed me is a prick iam amd/ati fanboy but doesnt mean we need to be bias let me tell u somthing 9800gx2 is the fastest but when games start using directx 10.1 this baby will be used to its full potential and by the godseennocolour go and learn somthing dick head
yeah but the cards go about displaying games very differently. Nvidia does tend to win at the moment, but, e.g this card here, is quicker than an 8800GTX/Ultra in most of the tests.
Why would you want that? The human eye cant see anymore than 60fps (or there abouts), and, many people with these uber quick cards dont bother with good monitors capable of refreshing quickly enough. if you are above 60fps in a game, u dont need anymore frames
This is where you are wrong. 60 frames is cool.. but if you have 300 frames, then you know you have more room for higher settings/ higher games/ higher resolutions. Next time think outside the box.
For that you would have to assume 300fps on low settings, which is an asumption you made. What I was saying is 60fps with the maximum settings, if you are hitting that in all the games you play, there is no reason what so ever to upgrade. Besides, the idea of hitting 300fps on a dx10 game on respectable settings is just a blatent exageration to try and justify your point
It was to emphasise a point that is obviously beyond your small mind. People seem to think they need 100+fps on the max settings when infact they do not. So stop being a tool ;)
Your first post was "The human eye can't see passed 60 fps" which is false. Your next post was "The idea of hitting 300 fps is just a blatent exageration" which is also false. Oh yea, spelled "blatant" wrong also Mr. BEYOND YOUR SMALL MIND. Your last post said "People seem to think they need 100+fps when infact they do not".. like I said, people can want what they want. My machine rendering @ 300 fps can withstand much more rendering than your 60 fps. I obviously got my money worth.
It's not false, I make the insinuation, you have to prove it wrong. Go and do that. Why is the exageration false? It's to emphasise a point moron. Couldnt care less about spelling mr slamm ling. People can want what ever the like but most people are idiots. 300fps can withstand more rendering is like saying my car can do 200mph in a 30 limit. Pointless. You didnt get your moneys worth as while you spend a fortune on a card, my cheaper one runs fine and when it strugles I replace it.
And even then I have spent less money and enjoying my games just as well as you. Guess who got there monyes worth ;) But then, this is because I replace my cards every 6 or so months. 8800GT which did did well in everything bar crysis for $200, and now 4870 for $275 and I run everything fantastic. I'll replace it in 6months again with another $300ish card. Enjoy your $1000 that gives you no benifit other than making u feel better about having no friends ;)
scotsocool, you sir are an idiot. Research your opinions before presenting them as facts. You try to lower this guys' intelligence, yet you continue to make yourself look more stupid.
He hasnt backed up his refuting claims with anything other than his opinion. As such I see it merely as a difference of opinion. I'd thank you to keep your moronic self out of it.
"The USAF, in testing their pilots for visual response time, used a simple test to see if the pilots could distinguish small changes in light. In their experiment a picture of an aircraft was flashed on a screen in a dark room at 1/220th of a second. Pilots were consistently able to "see" the afterimage as well as identify the aircraft. This simple and specific situation not only proves the ability to perceive 1 image within 1/220 of a second, but the ability to interpret higher FPS"
Which is not the same when we consider the refresh rate of the monitor. My point when I originally said it was that despite the FPS that you are aledgedly attaining, you cant see it because the monitor is not refreshing quickly enough. Yet both yourself and that other tool cant seem to catch onto that. For btw, a claim I made a few months ago, which he felt the need to call me out for now. And I stand by it
Infact it isnt even just that. Nvidia engineers when asked at what frame rate would you consider crysis ''conqured'' and the reply they got was in the 50-60 range. Higher is always better but at what price? Personally, I see no need to spend literally hundreds of dollars more for a frame rate you wont see a benifit from other than it will last you longer. Yet as I pointed out, when my cheaper card strugles, I simply replace it and I have still spent less cash than either of u.
Wikipedia: ''For example, a card may render a game at 100 FPS on a monitor running 75 Hz refresh, but no more than 75 FPS can actually be displayed on screen''.
Considering I was on about a 60Hz monitor (CRT) at the time, am still right all be it somewhat general. My point still stands what would be the point in the (for example) 300fps if the monitor isnt allowing you to see it, and as such the eye cant tell.
lol. Considering your claim with the 60Hz will only allow to view 60 FPS... well, that's only if you have vertical sync enabled. Again lol. You filled 3 comments to to say that crap? lmfao.
I havent been on Youtube in forever. Nor have I ever discovered my comment reply notification since I registered. Sorry I'm such a failure. Not that it matters, you're still an idiot.
watching this on hd 6850
masmotors 1 month ago
can you put it in a dell laptop windows 7 im a noob when it comes to computers
Lufios 9 months ago
@Lufios look at the size of the card and you tell me
wolfpackflt670 8 months ago
@Lufios I'm afraid it's a big no no in laptops. Sorry.
OCE4500 7 months ago
@Lufios you cant put any desktop graphics card in a laptop. they make special mobile versions to fit in there, but for reviews on those, you need to visit notebookcheck(dot)com
nelizmastr 7 months ago
@NoodleTheSlayer gts 250
ThreeD0ggx 9 months ago
3870X2 overclock is like.... 90-100C?
nelizmastr 1 year ago
@nelizmastr no problem my stupid simens laptop goes 100C when im running games and he has the 3870 x2 xD
TheZeroFighter 1 year ago
card is sooooo OLD !!
ThePenguinProduction 1 year ago
@ThePenguinProduction
yeah, maybe 'cause the video is over 2 years old.
prigel 1 year ago
@ThePenguinProduction yea good fuckin comment dumbasss
adampope64 1 year ago
coolers looks like boobs
monimoni0147 1 year ago 19
@monimoni0147 haha how the hell can u see that???? cuz u always think about boobs! perver! :)
AeroFix94 1 year ago
INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
muhatashim 1 year ago
it's FAAN-tastic!
vangstaz 2 years ago
not cheap :P
SM7078 2 years ago
5970 in crossfire i guess is better !
As owner of two 4890 sapphire OC EDITIONS
Nachalnika 2 years ago
lol? ofc? XD
kidowner 2 years ago
@kidowner
lol ofc... do you think they meant oc? or ofc lol...
muhatashim 1 year ago
whats better this or two 3870's in crossfire?
duckpk10 2 years ago
it depends, in some games two 3870s is a bit better and sometimes not, i myself am a owner of two 3870's
Computenator 2 years ago
FANnominal
nikolaiprangemusic 2 years ago
In this case ATI>Nvidia
4 Display outputs on one card?
ATI FTW!
kp
kpappletech 2 years ago 2
@kpappletech so much for eyefinity!
Jonnyinter1 2 years ago
GeForce > Radeon
Racmkd 2 years ago
world of conflake
lolsocool 2 years ago
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i fuckin hate ATI there cards are horrible....i love my new 9800GT 1 gig.....good customer support too...thumbs up to nvidea....never buying ATI again....
MTLbigJ 2 years ago
shut up.
Even my 2600XT does 35FPS on a mix of High and Medium on Crysis @ DX10 1280x1024.
Vista x64.
Not even overclocked.
And it runs that well...
ATi FTW!
AmH032uTuBe 2 years ago
can the component connections display 720p?
Dany1148 2 years ago
no, only 1080i (not 1080p) but is similar to 720p.
CrysisLTU 2 years ago
how much is this bad boy
rampageturke 2 years ago
like 280$, but DONT GET IT. If you want ati, get a 4870. if you want nvidia get a gtx 260 core 216. they cost like 130$ less, and perform the same.
supershiva11 2 years ago 2
no GTX 260 Core 216 is just over $200
ReturnFromTheQuest 2 years ago
they're like 170 with rebate on newegg
supershiva11 2 years ago
this is not for sale anymore, so settle down kids get a 4870x2
adampope64 2 years ago
used? and shops that sell old stock
theboyslipster 2 years ago
THATs one insane looking card
CrusaderU2K 2 years ago 4
uhh it's mroe htne the 4870 X2
card1100 2 years ago
yeah, should run fine if its a good psu ;)
z1pfL 2 years ago
you dont get the full FPS tho do u?
NathanAndrewLonsdale 2 years ago
I think the lowest is 500, im using a 700w because iv over clocked mine
NathanAndrewLonsdale 2 years ago
No way Killerman778 you probly wouldent even start your pc because you wouldent have anough power
NathanAndrewLonsdale 2 years ago
dude im using a 1tw psu for a dual card set-up+ extras.
i dont think you can even get 100w psu's anymore.
even my old agp system has a 480w
SCARREDMIND 2 years ago
I got a 730wat for 80$ great deal.
resdudeornardude 2 years ago 2
yes but is the power supply a good PSU. I mean they make 900 watt PSU's that cost 30 bucks that really out put like 300 watts under stress. I just bought a new Corsair TX 750 Watt PSU for $120 bucks after rebates, originally it was $184.99. Usually you want to look for the Efficiency rating of over 80% along with SLI or Cross Fire qualified and a strong 12V rail thats high in amperage. Mine actually distributed through a SINGLE 60 Amp 12V rail which increases stability 10 fold over having 3 or 4
illmagnified 2 years ago
I got a 750Watt PSU for £38
and that was the silent and cool version
the normal one was £27...!!! :O
but I guess yours was a modular one, mine wasn't
AmH032uTuBe 2 years ago
where the heck u got a 38 GPB one??
kidowner 2 years ago
GPB??? Make???
The make is CiT.
and it's hardwired, it's not modular.
AmH032uTuBe 2 years ago
did i say "make" in my post? :S GPB is the england money
kidowner 2 years ago
Oh, LOL
Yeh, GPB, yup XD
Sorry about the confusion.
but yeh it wa £38.
I got it from Play. c 0m
AmH032uTuBe 2 years ago
nice
kidowner 2 years ago
FANtastic
OldFartStudios 2 years ago
fanFuckintastic
CerebralAssAssin3 2 years ago
4 DVI Display Outputs?
Thats nuts
kp
kpappletech 2 years ago
So you need two cables to power it and they give you one for a start lol. Typical.
OwnZ3R 3 years ago
forget about it you need 700W
philhalo66 3 years ago
3870 is good where not all rich idiots ok we can only aford what we can afford bottom line saved up money to get a 3870 or 9800 and ther not dated cards ok they still kick ass and the pirce for them are just rigth
ben80s08 3 years ago
This obvioulsy TRASHES 9800GX2 and 9800GTX
Artas1984 3 years ago 2
hy is the Ati Radeon HD 3870 better then the Geforce 8800 GT ? and a 500 W power is good?
lav2lafyou 3 years ago
yes, but they are both dated cards. look at nvidia 9800gtx or gtx260 or ATI 4850 or 4870 for a more futureproof and cost efficient solution.
terogweth 3 years ago
I think this one costs only 200$ now.that's what I toke in the PC I bought last spring.Great deal dude.Never had problem with it.The drivers are way much better then in the time I was using a 9800 PRO.
Now I'm wondering if I should get a second ATI 3870 X2 for more power.Would it worth?
noo2islam 3 years ago
OOOH YEAH! Yes it will... You'll get about 80% performance increase in crossfire but will loose mulit monitors (incase you didnt know) :(
IkePwnzU 2 years ago
Thanks a lot for ur advice.80% more is interesting but frankly for now I don't see what I'm not able to do with this for a gamer like me.
But I didn't know that I wouldn't be able to use a second monitor which I do.Just the VGA cable costed me 50$,In this case I wont buy another.thanks a lot for ur informations.
noo2islam 2 years ago
You cannot beat a dual slot cooler that expels heat OUT THE BACK!! i cant stand it wen air is circulated back into the case
joseanzaldua 3 years ago
ya it's nice but really expensive $379.99 but it comes with grid game.
knightofhell7890 3 years ago
4 DVI PORTS?!!!??
thats just sick.
kpappletech 3 years ago
lol "fantastic" 0:06
filippo333 3 years ago 2
wow this makes me feel really bad about my 128mb integrated graphics accelerator lol
waluigi109 3 years ago
Fancy
Rawful42 3 years ago
LOGAN IN MY HEART 4 EVER<3!
phillefrasse 3 years ago 22
which card is better at 1680x1050 or lower res, a 4870 1gb gddr5 or a 3870 x2 overclocked 1gb gddr3??
theozeraa 3 years ago
Definitely 4870 because of the GDDR5.
Jammowns 3 years ago 2
what is ddr5??
rykuthemaster 3 years ago
go for the 4870, mate. its faster and newer. or, wait a month or 2
terogweth 3 years ago
look bith
monika971 3 years ago 2
i wonder if i could remove that cooler and stick it on my 4870 X2
Feircejaguar 3 years ago
u can just buy the cooler ya nub
Attikah 3 years ago
haha, first of all i was just just kidding to show how good the cooler looks, secondly, it seems that ur the noob, the spacing of the GPU's on the 3870X2 and the 4870X2 are a few mm's appart, so it using it on a 4870X2 wouldnt be recommended...
Feircejaguar 3 years ago 2
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why is my dick slapping your face?
Attikah 3 years ago
This card is overpriced get a 4870 it's faster/ALOT cheaper
nxji 3 years ago
I have a question... I bought this card and when finishing installing it and run DXDIAG i got only 512 mb memory for video... Did i do something wrong or this is just normal? Do i need to tweak something? And how would i know if Crossfire is working??? Please i'm a newbie! By the way my specs are Gigabyte x48-dq6, Intel Core 2 Quad overclocked by 2.8Ghz, 2x2Gb Kingston DDR2 Ram...Tnx
sadako9000 3 years ago
Lol either ur m/b dont support it
or
IT DOESNT MATTER ITS STILL RUNNING UR GAMES over 30 fps with max settings
Attikah 3 years ago
Not at all you have 512mb per core. 2 cores 1024mb total.
jeremysgonenorth 3 years ago
I have a question... I bought this card and when finishing installing it and run DXDIAG i got only 512 mb memory for video... Did i do something wrong or this is just normal? Do i need to tweak something? And how would i know if Crossfire is working??? Please i'm a newbie! By the way my specs are Gigabyte x48-dq6, Intel Core 2 Quad overclocked by 2.8Ghz, 2x2Gb Kingston DDR2 Ram...Tnx
sadako9000 3 years ago
That a duo-orb or two VF900's?
Sha1dov 3 years ago
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Logan I wanna tell you that there is some kind of dumm ass doing video reviews instead of you!!!!!! Go punch him in a face with your alegator fist and do some videos.
aleksankazakov 3 years ago
I WANT THE FUCKING 4870 why do they keep makign new ones like every 3 months i have to keep buying new ones i have a 3870
Riot656 3 years ago
yes.
but a overclocked GeForce 9800GTX2 smacks the giraffe out of that ...
reed2slc 3 years ago
The 9800GTX2 doesn't exist buddy. I think you mean the 9800GX2
doomtomb3 3 years ago
can my nforce 4 ultra motherboard run it and what power supply do i need for it i got a 600
Theheadbutt 3 years ago
wuts the price? and would it be possible to include that in future videos?
Merc399 3 years ago
Just get two HD4850s, it will be way better.
Greenmin5 3 years ago
The reason they don't say the price in the videos is because prices are always subject to change. It's $399.99 currently at TigerDirect. If you plan on using CrossFire, as someone else said, it would be better to get two 512MB HD4850's for about 2-cents cheaper. Though if you really want this to go for the big 4GB CrossFireX deal, I'd say get it(well, I'm pretty sure you can put 4 in, but don't hold me to it), or perhaps wait until ATI makes a 1GB HD 4870(maybe, too soon to tell).
-Casey Cannon
MoparManiac22739 3 years ago
well... ive found it at $160.00, so i suppose thats an awesome deal lol, havent got it yet, not goin to until i upgrade my motherboard, but yea im gettin that deal! lol
Merc399 3 years ago
gddr3 cant you guys read?
cyberexo 3 years ago
gddr5?????
julianmasi 3 years ago
4870x2 in one month! GDDR5!!!
jasonjinx 3 years ago 3
what? GDDR5 ?!?!?!
i know that it is high... but since im fairly new to the hardware stuff, can anyone tell me what do those ddr and gddr thingies mean? and do u need a new motherboard if u want to upgrade from 4 to 5?
viciokas1993 3 years ago
all the differences are is speed and price. the difference between gddr and ddr is that gddr is graphics ddr. DDR5 DOES NOT EXIST. dd3 and ddr4 are roughly the same speeds but different power usages and prices. ddr is a kind of ram and it is not on the mobo. so stick with 3 for now if you arent donald trump.
pointlessmunky 3 years ago
if i have a 790i ultra motherboard, does any gddr fit? if u cant find the comment, you can PM me...
viciokas1993 3 years ago
yeah im waiting for the 4870 x2 as well.
Chaos1443 3 years ago
gddr comes on the graphics card, you can't buy it seperately.
DavidEwin 3 years ago
no.. recent grpahics cards are pci x16 slots..which is what the 790i has and the other recent boards so u can put any graphics cards in there as long as they are pci x 16 slot. But the memory slots on the 790i is ddr3 ..whereas the older mohterboads is ddr2..but u cant put any ddr2 or ddr1 on the 790i, only ddr3 will work...but this is only memory
brillman 3 years ago
Wow! This video card is impressive jaja
if it were not a lot of trouble I could summarize some of what they say in Spanish.
Beyond that aunq not understand much I feel great and have all my apollo.
I recommend that board for this videocard
thanks
kalrathia2 3 years ago
this card is for the ladies, take a look at those tities
godURhot 3 years ago 2
mine :D
NoLr4m 3 years ago
getting this!
coldamian 3 years ago
is that thing gonna make my comp hover? oh and whats the power supply for that thing?
Shadow2271 3 years ago
FEAR likes multiple GPUs :X
KiloriloFFXI 3 years ago
EVERYTHING likes multiple GPUs lol
folken161 3 years ago
It looks like it has dual propellers for lift off.
DreadRaptor85 3 years ago
;DDDDDDDDD
mantiniho 3 years ago 2
OEM version of the thermaltake duorb
CIAmrx 3 years ago 2
Can you translate that into English?
DreadRaptor85 3 years ago
thermaltake makes a GPU cooler called the DuOrb..look at their website..the heatsink/fan on this card is a modified version of it.
CIAmrx 3 years ago
Yeah , copy of the Tt duorb but no LED .
zenniz1992 3 years ago
How long is this card? The retail card with its retail cooler is about 13" long, but what about this card? It looks like it's about the size of an 8800 GT...
rcman22 3 years ago
ya this specific card is different, it looks smaller cuz the other 3870x2 versions have the huge heatsink on them, this 1 has 2 fans
zZzZz805 3 years ago
Where can I get another 6pin PCIexpress cable for this card online? I live outside US :S
mealexxx 3 years ago
there is a bunch of reviews for this summers ati hd 4 series, some are arguing that they are fake reviews and benches. The reviews r saying the hd 4870 is faster then the 9800 gx2.
zZzZz805 3 years ago
It's not, dont be stupid, 4870 is a mid range card and is not intended to take on the 9800GX2. It probably wont even be as fast as nvidias new card that releases like two days later (or before). ATI's whole strategy is price, the 4870 is supposedly going to be $200 and its about 25% quicker than a 9800GTX. The 4870X2 that comes out in august is ATI's high end card. But like I said the 4870 is not supposed to take on the GX2, if it does then there will be riots to get one :P
scotsocool 3 years ago
Ya I agree an HD4870X2 being faster then 2 9800GX2. ATI is going nice now. I own a HD3870. Hopefully ATI prices right like they always do.
xLordJeevesx 3 years ago
thats the fastets thing around no?
nimePK 3 years ago
can these cards hit over 900 core clock and 2000+ memory???
zZzZz805 3 years ago
Yes. I did that with Rivatuner, just make sure you bump up teh fan speed ;)
scurvywombat 3 years ago
can I use this card in a apple mac pro
saxlickz 3 years ago
if it has enough room in the case and if it has a pci-e slot and enough powaaaah!!
MTFDarkEagle 3 years ago
q9300's better for not much more money
basterisk 3 years ago
Could somebody help i am contructing a new system and i don't know what to pick 9800 gtx or 8800 gts or 8800 gtx or 8800 ultra or hd 3870 x2
for nvidia cards i am going to buy asus striker II extreme and for the ati i am going with p5k3-deluxe pls help!!!! :'(
eXecelo 3 years ago
Get q6600, striker extreme with 3x9800gtx in sli and at least 800W PSU - around 1500$
noobc4k3 3 years ago
the thing is that 3870 and 3870 x2 is made to have better performance with 790 chipset 20 to 26 % more performance, they benchmarck the cards in motherboards for intel but run much better in spider plataform.
ramfery23 3 years ago
You shouldn't compare dual gpu cards to single gpu cards. 9800GX2 owns this card day and night, that's a fair comparison.
tomr2004 3 years ago
See there are some benefits of ATI
They are leaving out performance, but they have better video quality and CrossfireX.
I had 8800GT and i had ATI 3870 and i see better textures with 3870. As an example is smog and explosions in games. You will see much more of it in games with ATI cards.
aleksankazakov 3 years ago 4
Yes and no. In terms of performance the Gx2 is a stronger card, but in terms of cost, 3870x2 owns. Check newegg, the price of a Gx2 is about $550 while the 3870x2 is about $350. You could almost buy two 3870x2s for the price of one Gx2.
Don't forget, that Ati was the first to create dual GPU cards starting with the Rage Series a decade back. Now nvidia is copying Ati's dual GPU structure and crossfire hybrid structure.
RedTigerBlood 3 years ago
I would rather compare by price...
FreakingLogan 3 years ago
looks shit
jaminramin123 3 years ago
gay ??? your ignorent iam gay u dont even no me u fool hes not a ati fanboy he has a 790i and 9800gx2 oh and ur a pussy the comment wasnt for u in the first place so mind ur fuckin bisniss
moosegrizzly 3 years ago
who ever spammed me is a prick iam amd/ati fanboy but doesnt mean we need to be bias let me tell u somthing 9800gx2 is the fastest but when games start using directx 10.1 this baby will be used to its full potential and by the godseennocolour go and learn somthing dick head
moosegrizzly 3 years ago
directx 10.1 just contain some new shaders that are not brand new shaders, they're just the shaders to run ATI tech demos...
GAY!
sixtx 3 years ago
I think Logan is an ATi Fanboy - Maybe anyway
Deslert 3 years ago
Yes, logan is an ATI fanboy.
sixtx 3 years ago
dude.. look at all our videos... I like ATI a lot, but I probably do 10 nvidia videos for every ati video... I like both.
FreakingLogan 3 years ago
is taht true that nvidia make games like crysis together and so that nvidia get more performance than ATI in that games?
mantiniho 3 years ago
I think Nvidia sponsed Crytek, so they made the game optimal for nvidia gpu's but im not sure though
NorwayGamer 3 years ago
and not just crytek but most of the games...
mantiniho 3 years ago
aside from source lol. ATIs partnership program is way smaller yeah, but man, they got source on board, what are the odds?
MrWizard6600 3 years ago
Hi logan, i sendt u emails about 9800 gx2 black edtion:P Actually iv seen u defend the 3870x2 so ur totaly right!
NorwayGamer 3 years ago
lol
3dlegoman 3 years ago
so I'll need another PCI express cable for this?
mealexxx 3 years ago
Why?
sixtx 3 years ago
i wana see some benches with 2 of these in crossfire =], these cards look great
amexnamedluis 3 years ago 2
I want this card!!!!!
Wigwahm 3 years ago 3
i get a constant 25 fps on my 2900xt in crysis with everything High, aa off. no lag whatsoevah!
2PacaveIi 3 years ago
well the 3870X2 would get over twice that.
godseesnocolour 3 years ago
the fastest graphic card is 9800gx2 at the moment and nvidia ten to be faster then ati in games due to optimization but like scotsocool
y would u need more than 60fps i always put vsync on my games
moosegrizzly 3 years ago
smoother gameplay :)
Kingfist3 3 years ago 3
ati's graphic cards hav faster core clocks but nvidia has better fps
jimba12345 3 years ago
yeah but the cards go about displaying games very differently. Nvidia does tend to win at the moment, but, e.g this card here, is quicker than an 8800GTX/Ultra in most of the tests.
scotsocool 3 years ago
9800GTX, not 8800GTX, the only card thats currently higher is the 9800GX2.
djlobb 3 years ago
iam waiting for the am3+ mobo and cpus and 4870 gpus with ddr3 now that will be the monster to compare to a nvidia 790i
moosegrizzly 3 years ago
Wow, even with this card it can't do F.E.A.R. 100+ frames, and that game was made in what year? It just amazes me.
Cougar977th 3 years ago
Why would you want that? The human eye cant see anymore than 60fps (or there abouts), and, many people with these uber quick cards dont bother with good monitors capable of refreshing quickly enough. if you are above 60fps in a game, u dont need anymore frames
scotsocool 3 years ago
This is where you are wrong. 60 frames is cool.. but if you have 300 frames, then you know you have more room for higher settings/ higher games/ higher resolutions. Next time think outside the box.
electrickrypt 3 years ago 2
For that you would have to assume 300fps on low settings, which is an asumption you made. What I was saying is 60fps with the maximum settings, if you are hitting that in all the games you play, there is no reason what so ever to upgrade. Besides, the idea of hitting 300fps on a dx10 game on respectable settings is just a blatent exageration to try and justify your point
scotsocool 3 years ago
If you can only top 60 frames in the games youll play... youll have to update soon to play anything else new. Stop being an ass.
electrickrypt 3 years ago 2
It was to emphasise a point that is obviously beyond your small mind. People seem to think they need 100+fps on the max settings when infact they do not. So stop being a tool ;)
scotsocool 3 years ago
Your first post was "The human eye can't see passed 60 fps" which is false. Your next post was "The idea of hitting 300 fps is just a blatent exageration" which is also false. Oh yea, spelled "blatant" wrong also Mr. BEYOND YOUR SMALL MIND. Your last post said "People seem to think they need 100+fps when infact they do not".. like I said, people can want what they want. My machine rendering @ 300 fps can withstand much more rendering than your 60 fps. I obviously got my money worth.
electrickrypt 3 years ago
It's not false, I make the insinuation, you have to prove it wrong. Go and do that. Why is the exageration false? It's to emphasise a point moron. Couldnt care less about spelling mr slamm ling. People can want what ever the like but most people are idiots. 300fps can withstand more rendering is like saying my car can do 200mph in a 30 limit. Pointless. You didnt get your moneys worth as while you spend a fortune on a card, my cheaper one runs fine and when it strugles I replace it.
scotsocool 3 years ago
And even then I have spent less money and enjoying my games just as well as you. Guess who got there monyes worth ;) But then, this is because I replace my cards every 6 or so months. 8800GT which did did well in everything bar crysis for $200, and now 4870 for $275 and I run everything fantastic. I'll replace it in 6months again with another $300ish card. Enjoy your $1000 that gives you no benifit other than making u feel better about having no friends ;)
scotsocool 3 years ago
scotsocool, you sir are an idiot. Research your opinions before presenting them as facts. You try to lower this guys' intelligence, yet you continue to make yourself look more stupid.
en0nym0us 3 years ago
He hasnt backed up his refuting claims with anything other than his opinion. As such I see it merely as a difference of opinion. I'd thank you to keep your moronic self out of it.
scotsocool 3 years ago
"The USAF, in testing their pilots for visual response time, used a simple test to see if the pilots could distinguish small changes in light. In their experiment a picture of an aircraft was flashed on a screen in a dark room at 1/220th of a second. Pilots were consistently able to "see" the afterimage as well as identify the aircraft. This simple and specific situation not only proves the ability to perceive 1 image within 1/220 of a second, but the ability to interpret higher FPS"
en0nym0us 3 years ago
Which is not the same when we consider the refresh rate of the monitor. My point when I originally said it was that despite the FPS that you are aledgedly attaining, you cant see it because the monitor is not refreshing quickly enough. Yet both yourself and that other tool cant seem to catch onto that. For btw, a claim I made a few months ago, which he felt the need to call me out for now. And I stand by it
scotsocool 3 years ago
Infact it isnt even just that. Nvidia engineers when asked at what frame rate would you consider crysis ''conqured'' and the reply they got was in the 50-60 range. Higher is always better but at what price? Personally, I see no need to spend literally hundreds of dollars more for a frame rate you wont see a benifit from other than it will last you longer. Yet as I pointed out, when my cheaper card strugles, I simply replace it and I have still spent less cash than either of u.
scotsocool 3 years ago
Wikipedia: ''For example, a card may render a game at 100 FPS on a monitor running 75 Hz refresh, but no more than 75 FPS can actually be displayed on screen''.
Considering I was on about a 60Hz monitor (CRT) at the time, am still right all be it somewhat general. My point still stands what would be the point in the (for example) 300fps if the monitor isnt allowing you to see it, and as such the eye cant tell.
scotsocool 3 years ago
lol. Considering your claim with the 60Hz will only allow to view 60 FPS... well, that's only if you have vertical sync enabled. Again lol. You filled 3 comments to to say that crap? lmfao.
electrickrypt 3 years ago
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And you searched for a comment made 4 months ago in order to make your self feel better? LMAO! fail
scotsocool 3 years ago
I havent been on Youtube in forever. Nor have I ever discovered my comment reply notification since I registered. Sorry I'm such a failure. Not that it matters, you're still an idiot.
electrickrypt 3 years ago
I still lol everytime you find something else to argue about after you've been proved wrong. GG. Fill another 3 comments please. Try harder.
electrickrypt 3 years ago
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lol. I hate it when dumbasses try to act smart.
en0nym0us 3 years ago
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who u callin a dumbass u southern fuck
scotsocool 3 years ago